I am hoping that someone on the list will be able to help me. My g grandfather, William WOOD (b. abt. 1858) and his wife Julia Anne (Annie) MAIDMENT (b.abt. 1861, lived in the Durham area for some years. They were both originally from England and were married October 16, 1878 in Hurstpierpoint, Sussex ENG. I'm not sure when they came to Canada, but assume it was shortly after their marriage. I'm told that they immigrated to Lanark, but I have no proof of that. All of their children (not sure about the last one) were born in Grey Co.: Florence May WOOD - b. January 22, 1880 at Mt. Florest Edith Ellen WOOD - b. July 27, 1882 at Durham David Charles WOOD - b. January 4, 1885 at Durham Elsie Irene WOOD - b. February 15, 1888 at Durham William Edwin WOOD - b. March 28, 1890 at Durham Ernest Adolphus WOOD - b. September 13, 1892 at Durham Horace Jasper WOOD - b. August 25, 1894 at ??? The family moved to Winnipeg, MB sometime before David Charles WOOD was killed in a train accident in November of 1902. At the time of the accident, the family was already living in Winnipeg. According to the 1911 census, William WOOD's occupation was a Railway Employee. My g g grandfather, Wisdom (William Wisdom ??) WOOD and his wife Ellen also immigrated to Canada from England. I'm not sure if they came at the same time William and Annie did, nor am I sure where they settled. I am told that Wisdom WOOD died May 4, 1912, and Ellen died October 17, 1932. I'm not sure where either of them died, or where they are buried. Any information, suggestions, or help would be appreciated. I seem to get confused about Durham Co. and Durham town. which is in Grey Co. (I think!) Kathy Wood Swan River MB kawood@mts.net

I am looking for any info on Susan Johnston. She was born March 8, 1857 in Clark township. Her parents were John and Ann Johnston. She married Thomas Fagan on Feb 10 1877 in Artemesia. Thanks Elaine

Marriages Grey County 1895 004338-95(Grey Co.) Henry Fletcher HILL, 22, farmer, Garafraxa, Bentinck Twp., s/o Thomas and Mary HILL, married Sarah Jane CATON, 21, Bentinck Twp., Bentinck Twp., d/o Francis and Harriet CATON, witn; R. McNAUGHTON and E.A. CATON both of Bentinck, 3 April 1895 at Durham. 004339-95(Grey Co.) Thomas FREEBORN, 26, farmer, Holland Twp., Holland Twp., s/o Johnston and Jane FREEBORN, married Sarah Agnes CORNET, 18, Culross, Holland, d/o John and Mary Jane CORNET, witn; J.C. POMEROY Jr., and Gertrude POMEROY both of Durham, 26 June 1895 at Durham. 004340-95(Grey Co.) Charles Wm. McCLOCKLIN, 31, farmer, Glenelg Twp., Glenelg Twp., s/o Thomas and Martha McCLOCKIN, married Martha May EDWARDS, 20, Glenelg Twp., Glenelg Twp., d/o Thomas and Eliza EDWARDS, witn; S. E. POMEROY and Gertrude POMEROY both of Durham, 3 July 1895 at Durham. 004341-95(Grey Co.) Robert Alip'n? LAWSON, 27, farmer, Bentinck Twp., Bentinck Twp., s/o William and Georgina LAWSON, married Mary ALEXANDER, 22, Bentinck Twp., Bentinck Twp., d/o William and Jane ALEXANDER, witn; Joseph BROWN of Durham and Hannah ALEXANDER of Bentinck, 10 July 1895 at Durham. 004342-95(Grey Co.) Benjamin Adam HARGRAVE, 28, farmer, Glenelg Twp., Osprey Twp., s/o John and Ruth HARGRAVE, married Susan THOMPSON, 30, Artemesia Twp., Artemesia Twp., d/o George and Elizabeth THOMPSON, witn; John HARGRAVE and Elizabeth THOMPSON, blank, 15 July 1895 at Durham. 004343-95(Grey Co.) Wesley John MAGWOOD, 26, clergyman, Milverton, Kenilworth, s/o John and Mary MAGWOOD, married Lizette? POMEROY, 23, Port Perry, Durham, d/o Rev. John C. and Sarah E. POMEROY, witn; Fred THOMPSON of Toronto and Elfreda POMEROY of Durham 1 July 1895 at Durham.

Is there Genealogical information for W.A. Weir and Verna A. Corry who was born in Ireland and moved to Owen Sound area Grey County, Ontario, Canada. They had a son in 1923 in Dauphin, Manitoba, Canada.

Thought this might be of interest to Grey County People as well. Jopie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pam Tessier" <pamtessier@sympatico.ca> To: <CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 8:11 AM Subject: Black History Month > February is Black History Month in Canada and in memory of all the Black > men and women who struggled to make a new life in Ontario, this is the > abbreviated story of one of the first Black families to settle in Simcoe > County. It has been compiled from public records and supplemented by local > history. > > Remember the little boy who was the servant to the Assistant Surgeon at > the Establishments, Dr. Clement Todd? He appeared in one of the early > postings of Storied Penetanguishene by W.R. Williams. > > In 1825, this child, only eight years old, played and worked at the > Establishments three years before the boatload of refugees and soldiers > from Drummond Island came to Penetanguishene. Indeed, he was here in > Simcoe County long before many of our own ancestors arrived. He wasn’t > Indian, he wasn’t white and English or French. He was black - a “Man of > Colour”- and the son of escaped slaves. His name was Robinson Davenport. > > His parents, William and Sarah Davenport, lived down the Penetanguishene > road in what would in time become the town of Hillsdale. William and Sarah > along with William’s brother Benjamin, escaped bondage and fled to Canada > sometime before the outbreak of the War of 1812. In return for his service > in the War, William was granted land in a unique, government sponsored > settlement project in Oro Township. William was no dummy; he knew the land > was not suitable for farming so he sold it as soon as his settlers’ duties > were completed and moved his family to the area of Hillsdale. Here the > family built their house and those of their neighbours and from this > place, they helped to build the Penetanguishene Road and the Nine-Mile > Portage. Soldiers from the Establishments were constructing the Road. > Sarah was their washerwoman. Now perhaps you can see how Robinson came to > be in Penetanguishene in 1825. > William and Sarah had about nine children, all born free in Ontario. After > their deaths, they were laid to rest in the Swan Cemetery and later > re-interred in the Hillsdale Presbyterian Cemetery. Sometime this spring, > the historical significance of the Swan Cemetery will be recognized by the > erection of a plaque on the property. > Robinson fell in love and married Janet Farney, the daughter of a retired > British soldier. Dad didn’t take to well to having his daughter married to > a black man. Robinson was a carpenter, as were his father and uncle, and > he trained his sons in the same trade. Janet and Robinson, along with > their ten children moved often, living in Coldwater, Flos, Tiny and > Midland during their children’s growing years. Two of their children, > James and Joseph, formed Midland Builders and Contractors. These two men > designed and laid out Lakeview Cemetery in Midland where they buried their > parents. Their mother’s grave was one of the first in the cemetery. > > There is not one major event in the history of Ontario or Simcoe County in > which one member or another of this family did not participate; the War of > 1812, the building of the Penetang Road, the Nine-Mile Portage, the 1837 > Rebellion. They were responsible for the construction of the Hillsdale > Hotel, the Midland Library, the Martyrs Shrine and the Simcoe Hotel in > Barrie, to name only a few of their accomplishments. > Perhaps their greatest legacy was their family. Some of their descendants > still live in the area. > > There is so much more I could tell you about this family but you will have > to wait until I tell my tale at some other event honouring Blacks in our > County. If I have caught your interest and you would like to know more > about the history of Blacks in Simcoe and the Davenports in particular, > the following is a list of material with references to the Black settlers. > > KITH ‘N KIN > Compiled and edited by Joanna McEwen, 1978. > Pages 279-281 > out of print > > THE ORO AFRICAN CHURCH: A HISTORY OF THE AFRICAN METHODIST EPISCOPAL > CHURCH EDGAR ONTARIO CANADA > Compiled by the History Committee of the Township of Oro-Medonte, 1999 > Edited by Tim Crawford > Page 17 > out of print > On-line edition: > http://www.ourroots.ca/ > > THE STORY OF ORO > Editor - Joanna McEwen > Published by the Township of Oro, 1972 reprinted 1987 > Pages 6-10 > available at the Simcoe County Museum > On-line edition: > http://www.ourroots.ca/ > > MEN OF COLOUR > by Gary E. French > Published by Kaste Books, 1978 > Pages 80-86 > out of print > > ANOTHER LOOK AT HILLSDALE > Compiled by the Hillsdale Historical Committee > Published by Sylvia Holderny > reprint, 2003 > Black Settlement in Flos - The Davenport family > by Margaret Davenport Cole > Pages 76-81 > available in book stores > > SIMCOE COUNTY PIONEER PAPERS > Published by the Simcoe County Historical Society, 1908 > reissued in 1995 > Page 16, Section 2 > available on CD from the Penetanguishene Museum > On-line edition: > http://www.ourroots.ca > > MEDONTE - A TOWNSHIP REMEMBERED > Compiled by Mary Garbut > Published by the Township of Oro-Medonte > Pages 35, 36, 47, 160, 211, 302, 303 > available in book stores > > ILLUSTRATED ATLAS OF THE COUNTY OF SIMCOE > Published by H. Belden & Co., Toronto > Pages 13 and 16 > out of print > copies in libraries and the GHRC of the Penetang Museum > > THE LAND I LOVE - MINESING - ONTARIO > by Joseph Orchard > Page 41 > > NORTHERN LIGHTS - HURONIA WINDOW TO THE WORLD > July/August 1989 Magazine edition > Article by Barbara J. Renshaw > Page 15 > -- > Pamela L. Tessier > Research Co-ordinator > Genealogy and History Research Centre > Penetanguishene Centennial Museum and Archives > 13 Burke Street > Penetanguishene, ON > L9M 1C1 > 705-549-2150 > www.pencenmuseum.com > ptessier@pencenmuseum.com > > ______________________________ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.23/243 - Release Date: 1/27/2006

Thank you to Murray, Sheila, Karen. Your help is appreciated especially when it's impossible to get to LDS or archives. Sue

Hi Karen Thanks. Then that fits with the 1901 census I sent along earlier and 1881. Now I'm OK. Take care and have a great day. Murray Jones Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada Household Record 1881 Canadian Census Name Marital StatusGenderEthnic OriginAgeBirthplaceOccupationReligion Francis WIDMEIER M Male German 28 Ontario Farmer Lutheran Barbara WIDMEIER M Female German 24 Ontario Lutheran Karl WIDMEIER Male German 4 Ontario Lutheran Source Information: Census PlaceNormanby, Grey South, Ontario Family History Library Film 1375896 NA Film Number C-13260 District 154 Sub-district C Division 3 Page Number 48 Household Number 184 .................................................... ----- Original Message ----- From: "K&D Lawrence" <karendon@shaw.ca> To: "Murray Jones" <joneswm@accesscomm.ca> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [Grey Co.] Charles WIDMEYER marr Elizabeth WELTZ, prob Normanby > Hi Murray - The registration transcription gives the place of > birth first, then the place of residence. So he was born in > Normanby, but was living in Wiarton at the time of marriage. > Hope this helps, > - Karen > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Murray Jones" <joneswm@accesscomm.ca> > To: <CAN-ONT-GREY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 11:46 AM > Subject: Re: [Grey Co.] Charles WIDMEYER marr Elizabeth WELTZ, > prob Normanby > > >> Hi Karen/Sue >> >> That's interesting. >> >>> 6933-00 Carl WIDMEYER, 23, turner, Normanby, Wiarton, s/o >>> Franz........ >> >> Normanby and Wiarton appear to be so far apart. Is Wiarton a >> registration district or parish or the like and not the twon of >> Wiarton? >> >> Murray Jones >> Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada >> >> >> .................................................... >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "K&D Lawrence" <karendon@shaw.ca> >> To: <CAN-ONT-GREY-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 1:05 PM >> Subject: Re: [Grey Co.] Charles WIDMEYER marr Elizabeth WELTZ, >> prob Normanby >> >> >>> Hi Sue - >>> I was a little too quick on that. Here is a transcript of >>> Charles and Elizabeth's marriage. >>> >>> 6933-00 Carl WIDMEYER, 23, turner, Normanby, Wiarton, s/o >>> Franz WIDMEYER & Barbara HOLLINGER married Elizabeth WELTZ, >>> 29, Wellington, Carrick, d/o Adam WELTZ & Elizabeth FILSINGER, >>> Wtn: Julius WIDMEYER of Normanby & Adeline WELTZ of Carrick >>> May 8, 1900 at Nuestadt. >>> >>> - Karen >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Sue V" <genealgal2@execulink.com> >>> To: <CAN-ONT-GREY-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 8:06 AM >>> Subject: [Grey Co.] Charles WIDMEYER marr Elizabeth WELTZ, >>> prob Normanby >>> >>> >>>> Charles WIDMEYER marr Elizabeth WELTZ in 1900, probably of >>>> Normanby Twp >>>> Children: Concordia, Grant and Lloyd >>>> >>>> Does anyone Charles' parents? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> Sue Visser >>>> >>>> >>>> ============================== >>>> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records >>>> added in the >>>> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn >>>> more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ============================== >>> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >>> New content added every business day. Learn more: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >>> >>> >> >> >> ============================== >> Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >> Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn >> more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >> >> > >

Hi Karen/Sue That's interesting. > 6933-00 Carl WIDMEYER, 23, turner, Normanby, Wiarton, s/o > Franz........ Normanby and Wiarton appear to be so far apart. Is Wiarton a registration district or parish or the like and not the twon of Wiarton? Murray Jones Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada .................................................... ----- Original Message ----- From: "K&D Lawrence" <karendon@shaw.ca> To: <CAN-ONT-GREY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 1:05 PM Subject: Re: [Grey Co.] Charles WIDMEYER marr Elizabeth WELTZ, prob Normanby > Hi Sue - > I was a little too quick on that. Here is a transcript of > Charles and Elizabeth's marriage. > > 6933-00 Carl WIDMEYER, 23, turner, Normanby, Wiarton, s/o Franz > WIDMEYER & Barbara HOLLINGER married Elizabeth WELTZ, 29, > Wellington, Carrick, d/o Adam WELTZ & Elizabeth FILSINGER, Wtn: > Julius WIDMEYER of Normanby & Adeline WELTZ of Carrick May 8, > 1900 at Nuestadt. > > - Karen > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sue V" <genealgal2@execulink.com> > To: <CAN-ONT-GREY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 8:06 AM > Subject: [Grey Co.] Charles WIDMEYER marr Elizabeth WELTZ, prob > Normanby > > >> Charles WIDMEYER marr Elizabeth WELTZ in 1900, probably of >> Normanby Twp >> Children: Concordia, Grant and Lloyd >> >> Does anyone Charles' parents? >> >> Thanks >> Sue Visser >> >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added >> in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn >> more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> > > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

Hello Sue At http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/index.html there is a married couple in Wiarton (Bruce County North), well north of Normanby but right on the Grey/Bruce boundary. If you don't already have it for the 1881 census there is a Karl WIDMEIER and a Karl WIDMEYER both in Normanby and about the right age. Do you have acccess to the Archives of Ontario marriage index microfilm? Reference MS 934, Reel#8 will have the registrstion number if they were married between 1897 and 1910. With that number you can order through interlibray loan the marriage registration microfilm. I hope this is some help. Murray Jones Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada *************************** 1901 Census Bruce North - Wiarton WIDMEYER Charles M Head born Sep 21, 1876 Elizabeth F Wife born Sep 14, 1871 **************************** Household Record 1881 Canadian Census Name Marital StatusGenderEthnic OriginAgeBirthplaceOccupationReligion Francis WIDMEIER M Male German 28 Ontario Farmer Lutheran Barbara WIDMEIER M Female German 24 Ontario Lutheran Karl WIDMEIER Male German 4 Ontario Lutheran Source Information: Census PlaceNormanby, Grey South, Ontario Family History Library Film 1375896 NA Film Number C-13260 District 154 Sub-district C Division 3 Page Number 48 Household Number 184 ******************************* Household Record 1881 Canadian Census Name Marital StatusGenderEthnic OriginAgeBirthplaceOccupationReligion Stanislaus WIDMEYER M Male German 46 Germany Shoemaker Lutheran Cathy WIDMEYER M Female German 38 Germany Lutheran Rinaldin WIDMEYER Male German 17 O <Ontario> Shoemaker Lutheran William WIDMEYER Male German 15 O <Ontario> Shoemaker Lutheran Ludwig WIDMEYER Male German 13 O <Ontario> Lutheran Laura WIDMEYER Female German 11 O <Ontario> Lutheran Robert WIDMEYER Male German 9 O <Ontario> Lutheran Melinda WIDMEYER Female German 7 Ontario Lutheran Karl WIDMEYER Male German 4 O <Ontario> Lutheran Amanda WIDMEYER Female German 1 O <Ontario> Lutheran Source Information: Census PlaceNormanby, Grey South, Ontario Family History Library Film 1375896 NA Film Number C-13260 District 154 Sub-district C Division 3 Page Number 83 Household Number 343 ******************************* ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue V" <genealgal2@execulink.com> To: <CAN-ONT-GREY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 10:06 AM Subject: [Grey Co.] Charles WIDMEYER marr Elizabeth WELTZ, prob Normanby > Charles WIDMEYER marr Elizabeth WELTZ in 1900, probably of > Normanby Twp > Children: Concordia, Grant and Lloyd > > Does anyone Charles' parents? > > Thanks > Sue Visser > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added > in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn > more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Charles WIDMEYER marr Elizabeth WELTZ in 1900, probably of Normanby Twp Children: Concordia, Grant and Lloyd Does anyone Charles' parents? Thanks Sue Visser

Hi Sue - I was a little too quick on that. Here is a transcript of Charles and Elizabeth's marriage. 6933-00 Carl WIDMEYER, 23, turner, Normanby, Wiarton, s/o Franz WIDMEYER & Barbara HOLLINGER married Elizabeth WELTZ, 29, Wellington, Carrick, d/o Adam WELTZ & Elizabeth FILSINGER, Wtn: Julius WIDMEYER of Normanby & Adeline WELTZ of Carrick May 8, 1900 at Nuestadt. - Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue V" <genealgal2@execulink.com> To: <CAN-ONT-GREY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 8:06 AM Subject: [Grey Co.] Charles WIDMEYER marr Elizabeth WELTZ, prob Normanby > Charles WIDMEYER marr Elizabeth WELTZ in 1900, probably of Normanby Twp > Children: Concordia, Grant and Lloyd > > Does anyone Charles' parents? > > Thanks > Sue Visser > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Hi Sue - This might give you a clue. Charles was probably a witness at his sister's wedding here. Also it has Lizzie Weltz as a witness. 6915-00 Jacob METZGER, 23, miller, Carrick, Ayton, s/o Michael METZGER & Anna REIS married Laura WIDMEYER, 18, Normanby, same, d/o Moritz WIDMEYER & Katherine SCHENK, Wtn: Charles WIDMEYER of Nuestadt & Lizzie WELTZ of Carrick July 21, 1900 at Normanby. - Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue V" <genealgal2@execulink.com> To: <CAN-ONT-GREY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 8:06 AM Subject: [Grey Co.] Charles WIDMEYER marr Elizabeth WELTZ, prob Normanby > Charles WIDMEYER marr Elizabeth WELTZ in 1900, probably of Normanby Twp > Children: Concordia, Grant and Lloyd > > Does anyone Charles' parents? > > Thanks > Sue Visser > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Marriages Grey County 1895 004423-95 (Grey Co.) William James CAMBELL, 28, farmer, Ontario, Sullivan Twp., s/o Ralph and Isabel CAMPBELL, married Eliza Ann WEEDEN, 29, England, Sullivan Twp., d/o Walter and Mary Ann WEEDEN, witn; George C. CAMPBELL and Mary Ann WEEDEN both of Sullivan, 3 October 1894 at Sullivan. 004424-95 (Grey Co.) Friedrick Wilhelm RAUTENBERG, 20, farmer, Germany, Sullivan Twp., s/o Julius RAUTENBERG and Emielie SABLOSKI, married Rosa Bertha KRUGER, 21, Sullivan Twp., Sulilvan Twp., d/o Christian KRUGER and Gottlibe SCHULTZ, witn; Gottfried SCHULTZ and Caroline KRAUTZKRAMP both of Sullivan, 2 January 1895 at Sullivan. 004425-95 (Grey Co.) John ROBERTSON, 41, farmer, New York, Elderslie, s/o John ROBERTSON and Mart STOTT (STOLT?), married Agnes Jessie CROMAR, 38, Welsley Twp. Ont., Chatsworth, d/o Peter CROMAR and Euphemia DAVIE, witn; Peter George CROMAR and Isabella Jane ROBERTSON, blank, 9 January 1895 at Chatsworth. 004426-95 (Grey Co.) Johann SPECHT, 29, farmer, Germany, Sullivan Twp., s/o Heinrich SPECHT and Veroniky Brand, married Wilhelmine LANGE, Germany, Sullivan Twp., d/o Wilhelm LANGE and Luise MARX, witn; Julius LANGE and Susanne SUCH both of Sullivan, 29 January 1895 at Sullivan. 004427-95 (Grey Co.) Johann KAUFMANN, 26, farmer, Carrick Twp., Neustadt, s/o Conrad KAUFMANN and Catherine HEBERLING, married Auguste KLAGES, 23, Germany, Sullivan Twp., d/o Henrich KLAGES and Caroline AHERNS, witn; William KLAGES of Sullivan and Justus KAUFMANN of Carrick, 21 February 1895 at Sullivan. 004428-95 (Grey Co.) Albert JACKSON, 26, farmer, Ontario, St. George Brant Co., s/o Daniel and Mary JACKSON, married Emma TOMPSETT, 23, Sullivan Twp., Sullivan Twp., d/o William and Hannah TOMPSETT, witn; Herbert TOMPSETT and Hannah DUFFEY, both of Sullivan, 26 march 1895 at Desboro.

Marriages Grey County 1895 004410-95(Grey Co.) Herman YORK, 25, labourer, Uxbridge, Meaford, s/o S. J. and Elizabeth YORK, married Maud WILSON, 18, Meaford, Meaford, d/o Henry WILSON and Nancy? Clark, witn; Ida Simpson and Ida POST both of Thornbury, 8 June 1895 at Thornbury. 004411-95(Grey Co.) James McDONALD, 36, coffee roaster, Edinburgh, Toronto, s/o Thos. McDONALD and Mary GLUSCOW?, married Edith DIBB, 28, London England, Toronto, d/o Joseph and Christina DIBB, witn; Charles HUNT and Alice BROWNRIDGE both of Thornbury, 29 June 1895 at Thornbury. 004412-95(Grey Co.) John McMURCHY, 23, sailor, Collingwood, Collingwood, s/o Thos. McMURCHY and Elizabeth FRAZER, married Maggie C. SMALL, 19, Collingwood Twp., Collingwood, d/o Charles SMALL and Jane JOHNSTON, witn; Mrs. J. M. SIMPSON and Mrs. J. CAMPBELL both of Thornbury, 11 September 1895 at Thornbury. 004413-95(Grey Co.) Lauren FULFORD, 32, farmer, Canada, Euphrasia Twp., s/o Lorenzo and Christina FULFORD, married Mary Ann NEIL, 18, Canada, Collingwood Twp., d/o James and Mary Ann NEIL, witn; George McQUILLAN of Heathcote and B. Pauline KEYS of Clarksburg, 20 March 1895 at Clarksburg. 004414-95(Grey Co.) Frank OCCOMORE, 30, widower, hardware merchant, Salisbury England, Collingwood, s/o Samuel and Louise OCCOMORE, married Margaret Susan C. TODD, 27, Collingwood Twp., Collingwood Twp., d/o Hugh and Matilda TODD, witn; Pearson WALLACE and Lydia TODD both of Collingwood Twp., 1 May 1895 at Collingwood Twp. 004415-95(Grey Co.) Alexander McLEOD, 36, farmer, Collingwood Twp., Collingwood Twp., s/o John and Sarah McLEOD, married Mary Jane McLEOD, 26, Collingwood Twp., Collingwood Twp., d/o John and Catherine McLEOD, witn; John McFARLANE of Collingwood and Kate McLEOD of Collingwood Twp., 5 June 1895 at Collingwood twp.

Marriages Grey County 1895 004400-85 (Grey Co.) Robert McNAB, 25, yeoman, Mulmur Twp., Osprey Twp., s/o Thomas and Sarah McNAB married Margaret HOWLAND, 19, Staffordshire England, Osprey Twp., d/o William and Elizabeth HOWLAND, witn; Francis WINTERS and Alice WILSON both of Dundalk, 18 January 1895 at Dundalk. 004401-85 (Grey Co.) Harry Elbery? SMITH, 18, labourer, Osprey Twp., Melancthon Twp., s/o Benjamin and Harriet SMITH, married Rachel PRESSICK?, 18, Melancthon Twp., Melancthon Twp., d/o Wm. and Rachel PRESSICK?, witn; Wm. PRESSICK?, and Mrs. Annie LUNDGREN? both of Melancthon, 11 February 1895 at Dundalk. 004402-85 (Grey Co.) Thomas Beresford LLEWELLYN, 20, farmer, Birmingham England, Osprey Twp., s/o Thomas Beresford LLEWELLYN and Maria LLEWELLYN, married Jane GAUNTS?, 23, widow, England, Dundalk, d/o Samuel and Mary PRICE, witn; Mrs. Eunice? REID and Robt. CLEARY both of Dundalk, 20 April 1895 at Dundalk. 004405-85 (Grey Co.) E. Percy ROWE, 25, teacher, Bright Ont., Thornbury, s/o George and Martha ROWE, married Minnie GRIERSON, 23, Ravenna, Thornbury, d/o Wallis and Alice GRIERSON, witn; Geo. A. SCOTT of Arkona? and Alice GRIERSON of Thornbury 26 December 1895 at Thornbury. 004406-85 (Grey Co.) Peter RAWLINGS, 30, farmer, King Twp., Collingwood Twp., s/o Daniel and Anne RAWLINGS married Harriet Lavina HENDERSON, 24, Euphrasia Twp., Euphrasia Twp., d/o Isaiah and Isabella HENDERSON, witn; S. SIMPSON and Lizzie JAMES both of Thornbury, 19 Dec 1895 at Thornbury.. 004407-85 (Grey Co.) William Jessie LOWE, 33, fruit dealer, St. Vincent Twp., St. Vincent Twp., s/o James and Catherine Jane LOWE, married Susanah Jane Evelyn HARE, 25, Collingwood Twp., Thornbury, d/o John and Mary HARE, witn; Joseph LOWE of St. Vincent and Jessie? THOMPSON of Thornbury, 27 January 1895 at Thornbury. Marriages Grey County 1895 004400-85 (Grey Co.) Robert McNAB, 25, yeoman, Mulmur Twp., Osprey Twp., s/o Thomas and Sarah McNAB married Margaret HOWLAND, 19, Staffordshire England, Osprey Twp., d/o William and Elizabeth HOWLAND, witn; Francis WINTERS and Alice WILSON both of Dundalk, 18 January 1895 at Dundalk. 004401-85 (Grey Co.) Harry Elbery? SMITH, 18, labourer, Osprey Twp., Melancthon Twp., s/o Benjamin and Harriet SMITH, married Rachel PRESSICK?, 18, Melancthon Twp., Melancthon Twp., d/o Wm. and Rachel PRESSICK?, witn; Wm. PRESSICK?, and Mrs. Annie LUNDGREN? both of Melancthon, 11 February 1895 at Dundalk. 004402-85 (Grey Co.) Thomas Beresford LLEWELLYN, 20, farmer, Birmingham England, Osprey Twp., s/o Thomas Beresford LLEWELLYN and Maria LLEWELLYN, married Jane GAUNTS?, 23, widow, England, Dundalk, d/o Samuel and Mary PRICE, witn; Mrs. Eunice? REID and Robt. CLEARY both of Dundalk, 20 April 1895 at Dundalk.004405-85 (Grey Co.) E. Percy ROWE, 25, teacher, Bright Ont., Thornbury, s/o George and Martha ROWE, married Minnie GRIERSON, 23, Ravenna, Thornbury, d/o Wallis and Alice GRIERSON, witn; Geo. A. SCOTT of Arkona? and Alice GRIERSON of Thornbury 26 December 1895 at Thornbury. 004406-85 (Grey Co.) Peter RAWLINGS, 30, farmer, King Twp., Collingwood Twp., s/o Daniel and Anne RAWLINGS married Harriet Lavina HENDERSON, 24, Euphrasia Twp., Euphrasia Twp., d/o Isaiah and Isabella HENDERSON, witn; S. SIMPSON and Lizzie JAMES both of Thornbury, 19 Dec 1895 at Thornbury.. 004407-85 (Grey Co.) William Jessie LOWE, 33, fruit dealer, St. Vincent Twp., St. Vincent Twp., s/o James and Catherine Jane LOWE, married Susanah Jane Evelyn HARE, 25, Collingwood Twp., Thornbury, d/o John and Mary HARE, witn; Joseph LOWE of St. Vincent and Jessie? THOMPSON of Thornbury, 27 January 1895 at Thornbury.

Hi Sue, While there is some truth in what you have read I have to say that from my researches a two year life expectancy is far to pessimistic. As you can imagine, in our business, we are very concerned with the life expectancy of CDs and so I have done a fair amount of reading on the subject. There are basically two types of dye layer used on CD blanks (that's CD-Rs, not including CD-RWs). Each has it's own advantages and disadvantages - most of which stray deep in the technicalities and which would take far too long to get into here. During the initial development of the CDs technology a lot of attention was paid to the permanence of the burning process and a consensus has been reached on what can be expected for a CDs data retention life. The figures (from memory) are about 50 years for one type and 100 years for the other. Now these are industry figures and are for perfect storage conditions, that is initial burn strength, handling, use, storage temperature, exposure to light etc. etc. Basically, an impractical number, but with a professional quality CD burner, and a reasonable amount of care in handling and storage then half that life shouldn't be unreasonable. (Keep in mind these are all projected figures. CDs haven't been around for that long yet.) One of the strangest things we have discovered is that the more expensive CDs are not necessarily the better from a life point of view. I have checked out some of the more expensive brand name CDs blanks and they are made with the shorter life (50 year) type of dye layer. I have also seen some discount store CDs made with the longer life (100 year) dye. (There is a track on all - well most - CDs which carries this information but you need special software to read it.) The cheap CDs do tend to have more manufacturing errors and some will fail during burning while the brand name ones are better screened for this. However, don't assume that because it costs more it's better. This is CD manufacturer marketing talk. The two to five year life figure may be correct for the re-writable CD-RW disks, after all they are specifically made to be temporary storage. Make sure you buy CD-R blanks for permanent storage. Oh, and the idea of "data shifting" being as problem is just nonsense. The CD drive's laser's positioning on the data track is controlled by what is called a feed back loop. The change in size of the disk due to the rise in it's temperature while you read it would throw off the tracking otherwise. The data is always "shifting" with every change in temperature. It's a very small shift to us but its large when compared to the size of the data track. One of the biggest hazards to the life of burned CDs are strong lights. The dye layer is light sensitive, after all that's how it works. The laser built into the CD burner produces a very very bright spot of light to "burn" the CD initially and it needs to be that bright because the dye layer is is quite insensitive BUT leaving a CD in strong sunlight - or even right next to a bright desk light - for hours on end will gradually burn out the whole of the dye layer so the original laser burn effectively fades out. The second worst hazard is dirt. That shiny side is a true optical surface and the "bits" that are written into the dye layer are incredibly small. A thumb print, a speck of dirt, or a scratch can make several bits of the track unreadable and too many such areas will make the CD unreadable. So where does all that leave you? I would not get too paranoid about re-burning all your data CDs every two years. An archive renewal policy is certainly a good idea but FIRST I would make two back ups not one. Aging is a statistical process so if one CD fails due to aging there is a good chance the second one will still be OK and you can then make two new ones from the old one that still works. If you have the time, and can understand the techno-babble, look on the CD manufacturers web site and see if he says what sort of dye he is using and / or what the life expectancy of his disks is. (Bear in mind the manufacturer will quote idea case life.) Find a nice clean, dry, dark place to store your archive CDs preferably where the temperature remains cool and doesn't vary too much. Put the CDs into storage boxes or paper sleeves at the very least.** Better still find two such places and store one of the your 2 copies of the archived CDs in each place. Don't limit your archiving to just your own burned CDs (although they are most important because they are irreplaceable.) The law entitles you to make a back up copy of any commercial software you buy. What it does not allow you to do is make copies to sell or give away, if you read the license carefully thats what it will (or should) say. All CDs fail eventually (even sooner if you have an accident) so invest in the extra spindle of CD-Rs and take the time to back up all your expensive computer software as well. Renewing your archive every two years? Well if that gives you peace of mind it's probably worth it. Personally I'd probably think more in terms of ten years (provided I had two copies) and I wouldn't get worried until about 25 years. On the other hand there is probably going to be several new types of storage media around by then and you will have transfered all your data to this media because your computer no longer has a CD drive. If you want proof take a look at memory cards and USB "Jump Drives." I'm afraid you can't believe the first thing you read on most technology subjects. Marketing people love to broadcast scary stories like this one, based on extreme interpretations of raw engineering facts, because it boosts the sales of - in this case - CD-Rs. Read the story and take note - as I hope you are doing with this one - and when you've read enough of them decide what you should do about it. A good unbiased source of information on this topic are organizations like the Library of Canada and the Library of Congress. They both are vitally interested in storage of valuable data and both are keeping an eye on the various technologies available. Neither of them are ready to declare CDs as "archival" media yet (i.e., having a guaranteed life of 100 + years) but the Library of Congress is definitely accepting the use of CDs for working copies of data. Do some internet searching - it's quite an interesting topic. I hope this has helped to allay some fears of valuable data leaking away while you sit reading the e-mail :-) Malcolm Archive CD Books Canada Inc. Attn: Malcolm Moody - President P.O. Box 11, Manotick, Ontario, K4M 1A2, Canada. phone: (613) 692-2667 e-mail: malcolm@archivecdbooks.ca Canadian web site: http://www.archivecdbooks.ca From: "Sue V" <genealgal2@execulink.com> Date: 23 January 2006 22:53:35 GMT-05:00 To: CAN-ONT-GREY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: life expectancy of your back-up files Like most of you, whether it is a family photo album or precious family tree research, I back up, back up, back up. Now I'm going to add another feature to my back-ups - a date of purchase written right on the CD and an annual reminder on the calendar to check for reburning needs. Why? CD life is 2 to 5 years according to folks more knowledgeable than I..... From http://computerworld.com/hardwaretopics/storage/story/ 0,10801,107607,00.html "Unlike pressed original CDs, burned CDs have a relatively short life span of between two to five years, depending on the quality of the CD," Gerecke said in an interview this week. "There are a few things you can do to extend the life of a burned CD, like keeping the disc in a cool, dark space, but not a whole lot more." The problem is material degradation. Optical discs commonly used for burning, such as CD-R and CD-RW, have a recording surface consisting of a layer of dye that can be modified by heat to store data. The degradation process can result in the data "shifting" on the surface and thus becoming unreadable to the laser beam. "Many of the cheap burnable CDs available at discount stores have a life span of around two years," Gerecke said. "Some of the better-quality discs offer a longer life span, of a maximum of five years." Check out the website for the more complete article. (Thanks to source Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter) Cheerio Sue Visser

Hi Norma I'm a dedicated Dotto's Cafe fan (Sat AM twice and Sun AM in southern Ontario) and tape his tv programs. I'm not a techie but have learned a lot through that program and the nice thing about taping it is that if he is covering a subject not pertinent to my needs, then I can fast forward to the next part. One thing he has stated repeatedly is that with good quality photo paper and ink, the longevity of photos home printed is even better than store printed photos. With the ever changing tech needs, I'm opting to hard copy all my photos as well as store them on CD - which will be recopied every 2 years now. My feelings are that if a photo is worthy of saving, it's also worthy of printing. Cheerio Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "nhaines" <matrix243@sympatico.ca> To: "Sue V" <genealgal2@execulink.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [Grey Co.] life expectancy of your back-up files You know Sue, things just get more complicated, don't they? Now that you've mentioned this, and I just got a new digital camera for Christmas, I'm wondering about the photos printed on the home printers. I lean toward "hard copies" of things, but what happens down the line when there isn't the same technology to view photos? What if all your photos are stored on disks, what good are they 50 yrs. from now? What about the ink that's used in the home printers? Is it the same process as used in the photo labs? Is one better than the other? I'm sure we all have some old photos from the 1800's that are still in wonderful condition. Wonder if the new technology will still hold up? Just thinkin' ....... Norma. Sue V wrote: >Like most of you, whether it is a family photo album or precious family >tree >research, I back up, back up, back up. Now I'm going to add another >feature >to my back-ups - a date of purchase written right on the CD and an annual >reminder on the calendar to check for reburning needs. Why? CD life is 2 >to 5 years according to folks more knowledgeable than I..... > >>From >http://computerworld.com/hardwaretopics/storage/story/0,10801,107607,00.html > >"Unlike pressed original CDs, burned CDs have a relatively short life span >of between two to five years, depending on the quality of the CD," Gerecke >said in an interview this week. "There are a few things you can do to >extend >the life of a burned CD, like keeping the disc in a cool, dark space, but >not a whole lot more." > >The problem is material degradation. Optical discs commonly used for >burning, such as CD-R and CD-RW, have a recording surface consisting of a >layer of dye that can be modified by heat to store data. The degradation >process can result in the data "shifting" on the surface and thus becoming >unreadable to the laser beam. > >"Many of the cheap burnable CDs available at discount stores have a life >span of around two years," Gerecke said. "Some of the better-quality discs >offer a longer life span, of a maximum of five years." > >Check out the website for the more complete article. (Thanks to source >Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter) > >Cheerio >Sue Visser > > > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > __________ NOD32 1.1376 (20060123) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com __________ NOD32 1.1376 (20060123) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com

Instead of burning CD's for your family files, you can use a memory key which is a "little" key-sized unit that plugs into your USB port, which is easy to find on your computer. These keys are available from 64 mb up to 4 gb, which is more than most computers can hold. All of my family files, plus their back-up files (30+30) are stored on it within one folder, with a date on the folder. All these same files are stored within my FTW program in a similar folder on my computer, so every 2 weeks I just copy and paste onto my memory key with the updated date, so all my trees are updated at once. I always have hard copy printed off, including sources, etc. My memory key is 256 mb, and was about $50, which is less than what they were. It is easy to install and to carry around. Teachers and students use them all the time to store their information--it even comes with a lanyard to wear around your neck. Mine stays in a box by my computer, and I don't have to worry about all those in! dividual floppys/CD's sitting around. Nancy Caldwell

Like most of you, whether it is a family photo album or precious family tree research, I back up, back up, back up. Now I'm going to add another feature to my back-ups - a date of purchase written right on the CD and an annual reminder on the calendar to check for reburning needs. Why? CD life is 2 to 5 years according to folks more knowledgeable than I..... From http://computerworld.com/hardwaretopics/storage/story/0,10801,107607,00.html "Unlike pressed original CDs, burned CDs have a relatively short life span of between two to five years, depending on the quality of the CD," Gerecke said in an interview this week. "There are a few things you can do to extend the life of a burned CD, like keeping the disc in a cool, dark space, but not a whole lot more." The problem is material degradation. Optical discs commonly used for burning, such as CD-R and CD-RW, have a recording surface consisting of a layer of dye that can be modified by heat to store data. The degradation process can result in the data "shifting" on the surface and thus becoming unreadable to the laser beam. "Many of the cheap burnable CDs available at discount stores have a life span of around two years," Gerecke said. "Some of the better-quality discs offer a longer life span, of a maximum of five years." Check out the website for the more complete article. (Thanks to source Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter) Cheerio Sue Visser

Hello list :) Coates & Best no longer has Melba Croft books... ugh :( Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Iles" <jiles@bmts.com> To: <CAN-ONT-BRUCE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 7:01 AM Subject: RE: [BRUCE] Looking for a Melba Croft Book > Hello Janet > > The following is the catalogue record for the book you are asking about. > The > title is "In their own words". It is quite large as you remember it > includes > copies of original documents. > > In their own words 1626-1994 : the story of Ontario and Quebec but in > particular about the Georgian Bay / by Melba Morris Croft > Owen Sound, ON : Melcroft, c2001 > 556 p. : ill., maps, ports, photos > Includes bibliographical references and index > Includes some text in French and Mohawk > Indians of North America--Ontario--History--Sources > Indians of North America--Québec (Province)--History--Sources > Georgian Bay Region (Ont.)--History--Sources > Québec (Province)--Social life and customs--Sources > > As far as I know there are still copies available for sale through Coates > & > Best in Owen Sound. You would have to check with them. > > Since this book she has also published > > Memories of Brooke / researched and edited by Melba Morris Croft > Croft, Melba Morris, 1909- > Variant title: Memories of Brooke Nawash, Brookefield, Brookeholm, > Brooke, > Owen Sound North, Owen Sound) > Owen Sound, ON : M. M. Croft, c2004 > F, 436 p., 6 p. : ill. maps, photos > Brooke (Owen Sound, Ont.)--History > > It too should be available at Coates & Best in Owen Sound > > Janet Iles > > -----Original Message----- > From: Janet Jones [mailto:janet-jones@sympatico.ca] > Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 12:32 AM > To: CAN-ONT-BRUCE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BRUCE] Looking for a Melba Croft Book > > Please forgive me, if I don't recall the title of the book accurately - > the > title of it was something to the effect of "In Our Own Words" (unless I'm > thinkin of another book entirely). It was a fairly large publication that > I > > found in the Wiarton library on a visit a year or so ago. I recall reading > in the front of the book that it would be much too costly to print it in > hardcover. The topic was the natives of the area and included some JONES > family. I know when I see the title it will be clear... > > Does anyone know if and how I can purchase a copy of this book - looking > ahead at Christmas for my mother-in-law. > > If her publications are still for sale, can someone share the titles with > me > > as I believe there is at least one more she has had on her wish list. > > Thanks in advance... > Jan > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > ______________________________