Thanks to all who replied to my question regarding Lots and Concessions. It appears that the Morltey and Hagen farms were right adjacent to each other, adding to my suspicion that they may be related through marriage, although I still have no definite proof though, I will continue to search. Thanks again, Kimberly Muldoon-Staley

Hi Kimberly, Made a mistake in that link . try this. http://digital.library.mcgill.ca/CountyAtlas/ Sorry Stan Cragg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kimberly Muldoon-Staley" <kmuldoon1@cogeco.ca> To: <CAN-ONT-GREY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 2:32 PM Subject: [Grey Co.] Lots and Concessions > Hi, I have sort of a geographical question for someone who may know the > exact locations of Lots and Concessions. For example, in 1865-66, would > Concession 1 Lot 25 (EGR) Holland Township be physically near Concession 1 > Lot 25 of Sullivan Township? Would they be neighbours, within walking > distance or on completely different sides of the County? Im trying to > connect the Hagen family of Con. 1 Lot 25 Holland Twp. with the Charles > Mortley family of Con. 1 Lot 25 of Sullivan Twp. Any advice on this would > be appreciated, Thanks, > Kimberly Muldoon-Staley > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

HI Kimberly, Have been looking at the maps of Sullivan and Holland Townships and I would say that the lots are back to back. To check for yourself just go to http://digital.library.mcgill..ca/CountyAtlas/Searchmaps3.htm Stan Cragg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kimberly Muldoon-Staley" <kmuldoon1@cogeco.ca> To: <CAN-ONT-GREY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 2:32 PM Subject: [Grey Co.] Lots and Concessions > Hi, I have sort of a geographical question for someone who may know the > exact locations of Lots and Concessions. For example, in 1865-66, would > Concession 1 Lot 25 (EGR) Holland Township be physically near Concession 1 > Lot 25 of Sullivan Township? Would they be neighbours, within walking > distance or on completely different sides of the County? Im trying to > connect the Hagen family of Con. 1 Lot 25 Holland Twp. with the Charles > Mortley family of Con. 1 Lot 25 of Sullivan Twp. Any advice on this would > be appreciated, Thanks, > Kimberly Muldoon-Staley > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

Hi Grey County list. Can anyone answer this question for Jeanette. I remember reading about this years ago but can not remember where I found it. Jopie From: "Jeanette Draper" <jdraper3@cogeco.ca> To: "Jopie Loughead" <jopiel@sympatico.ca> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 11:33 PM Subject: [RAOGK-Req] Canada Ontario Collingwood, Grey County, > Hi Jopie, > > I really enjoy reading your account of interesting happenings in the > Collingwood newspapers. > > I am confined to my apartment due to my health.You seem to know the Grey > County area fairly well. Since I can't get out to research, do you have a > suggestion of where I would locate an account about the murder of Rosanna > Leppard who was murdered in October of 1883? I did find a poor copy of > Cook Teets hanging in the Collingwood Enterprise thanks to you but would > like to find a account of her actual murder. The account in the CE in 1926 > was a story about the murder 43 years earlier.My family has a connection > to the Lepards in Ontario. > > Any suggestions are gratefully appreciated. > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.1/344 - Release Date: 5/19/2006 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.1/344 - Release Date: 5/19/2006

Hello Kimberly I believe they would be within walking distance. Depending on where the houses were located exactly how far they would walk but both townships count concessions from what is now Highway 6. Go to www.greycounty.ca/maps and select the gis maps - then interactive then query by lot and concession. You will see how close each property is. They would be near neighbours, perhaps living across the road from each other. Janet Iles -----Original Message----- From: Kimberly Muldoon-Staley [mailto:kmuldoon1@cogeco.ca] Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 4:33 PM To: CAN-ONT-GREY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Grey Co.] Lots and Concessions Hi, I have sort of a geographical question for someone who may know the exact locations of Lots and Concessions. For example, in 1865-66, would Concession 1 Lot 25 (EGR) Holland Township be physically near Concession 1 Lot 25 of Sullivan Township? Would they be neighbours, within walking distance or on completely different sides of the County? Im trying to connect the Hagen family of Con. 1 Lot 25 Holland Twp. with the Charles Mortley family of Con. 1 Lot 25 of Sullivan Twp. Any advice on this would be appreciated, Thanks, Kimberly Muldoon-Staley ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

Hi, I have sort of a geographical question for someone who may know the exact locations of Lots and Concessions. For example, in 1865-66, would Concession 1 Lot 25 (EGR) Holland Township be physically near Concession 1 Lot 25 of Sullivan Township? Would they be neighbours, within walking distance or on completely different sides of the County? Im trying to connect the Hagen family of Con. 1 Lot 25 Holland Twp. with the Charles Mortley family of Con. 1 Lot 25 of Sullivan Twp. Any advice on this would be appreciated, Thanks, Kimberly Muldoon-Staley

I will be out of the office starting 05/18/2006 and will not return until 05/23/2006.

Hi: You likely already have all this: From Directory of the County of Grey, 1865-66: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wjmartin/grey4.htm HOLLAND TOWNSHIP. East of Garafraxa Road. Con. Lot Hagen, Patrick 1 25 Death registration below Hagen, Owen 1 25 GLENELG TOWNSHIP North of Durham Road Hagen, James 12 21 SULLIVAN TOWNSHIP Mortley, Charles 1 25 Ontario, Canada Deaths, 1869-1932 Record about Pat Hagan Name: Pat Hagan Death Date: 20 Feb 1877 Death Location: Holland, Grey No age, cause or physician Gender: Male Birth Location: Ireland Informant: Owen Hagen, Farmer, Holland Religion: RC Reg. # 003630 Federal Census of 1871 (Ontario Index) HAGAN , PATRICK Sex: Male Age: 60 Birthplace: IRELAND Religion: Roman Catholic Origin: IRISH District: GREY NORTH ( 037 ) Sub-district: Holland ( B ) Division: 2 Page: 19 - Same page as Owen Microfilm reel: C-9953 Reference: RG31 -- Statistics Canada You can now page by page, not indexed at archives.ca, the 1851 census. Go to this page and check off Canada West, type in Holland, click submit query. Unless you already have the entry or an index, you will have to go through each page. Find the Mortley family the same way but I looked for them in Sullivan and didn't find them there. Perhaps Holland. You want to look at the pages with the letter "a" after them as that's where the names are. http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/1851/001005-100.01-e.html Owen Haggan and other Haggan family members are on page 6A of Schedule A, District 11, Holland Twp, subdistrict 91, the first one listed when you check off Canada West, type in Holland, submit query. What may be parents James and Sarah, all born County Armagh, Ireland, Jame age 67 and Sarah age 64 are right above Owen. Owen is age 38, followed by Patrick age 30 or 35?, Bernard, age 25, Andrew age 21, Margaret, age 15? and the next family is Muldoon, John age 69 County Armagh, Ireland, Farmer, Hannah, wife, County Down, Ireland, all are RC. Schedule B for the area refers to the Agricultural info, legal land description, what animals and crops they grew and you can look for them yourself as I didn't take the time to do that. I didn't find any Mortley's but you should look yourself as I may have missed them. Perhaps they lived elsewhere in 1851 or if they emigrated, perhaps they weren't here yet. Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1907 Record Name: Edward James Muldoon Date of Birth: 11 Sep 1889 Gender: Male Born: Dornoch, Sullivan Twp., Grey County Father's Name: Thomas Muldoon, Darnoch, Ontario, farmer, born Ontario Mother's Name: Mary Adeline Heggins, born Ontario, housewife How many children born to this mother before this birth: "Two older, 2 younger, were born alive Four, are now living Zero. Roll Number: MS930_10 Delayed reg #502239 Declaration signed January2, 1956, Edward James Muldoon, 5 Grafton Avenue, Hamilton Beach. 1901 Census of Canada Page Information District: ON GREY (North/Nord) (#65) Subdistrict: Holland B-4 Page 4 Details: Schedule 1 Microfilm T-6469 Muldoon Thomas M Head M Oct 31 1852 Muldoon Mary A. F Wife M Mar 5 1865 Muldoon John M Son S Jul 6 1881 Muldoon Mary A. F Daughter S Nov 7 1887 Muldoon Edward J. M Son S Sep 11 1889 All born Ontario, RC. Ontario, Canada Deaths, 1869-1932 Record County of Grey, Division of Holland Name: Charles Mortley Death Date: 3 Apr 1903 Death Location: Lot 4, Concession 1 EGR, Grey (Perhaps EGR stands for East of Garafraxa Road, as in the Grey County Directory, above) Occupation: Farmer Marital Status: Married? Age: 88 Gender: Male Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815 Birth Location: England Cause: Old age, 3 weeks Religion: C of E Informant: Charles Mortley Reg. #010995 Ontario, Canada Deaths, 1869-1932 Record County of Grey, Division of Holland Name: Caroline Mortley Death Date: 22 Mar 1899 Death Location: Concession 3, E.G.R., Grey Age: 85 years, 9 months Marital Status: Married Gender: Female Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814 Birth Location: Sussex;Eng Cause: Old age Informant: Crane?, William Reg. #009956 Federal Census of 1871 (Ontario Index) MORTLEY , CHARLES Sex: Male Age: 55 Birthplace: ENGLAND Religion: Church of England, Anglican Origin: ENGLISH Occupation: FARMER District: GREY NORTH ( 037 ) Sub-district: Sullivan ( A ) Division: 1 Page: 50 Microfilm reel: C-9953 Reference: RG31 -- Statistics Canada Ontario, Canada Deaths, 1869-1932 Record County of Grey, Div of Holland Name: Annie Muldoon Death Date: 16 Dec 1910 Death Location: Lot 26, Concession 1, Holland, Grey Occupation: Farming Marital: Single Gender: Female Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888 Birth Location: Holland,Ont Parents: Thomas Muldoon and Mary A. Hagens, both born Ontario Physician: J.L. Smith MD Informant: Thomas Muldoon, Dornock Cause: Pulmonary Tuberculosis, 6 months, heart failure from exhaustion, immediate Reg. #014954 By the address, this was likely their dau as well: Ontario, Canada Deaths, 1869-1932 Record County of Grey, Div of Holland Name: Hannah Muldoon Death Date: 20 Aug 1899 Death Location: Lot 26, Concession 1 E.G.R., Holland, Grey Age: 15 years, 8 months Marital: Single Occup: Housework Gender: Female Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884 Birth Location: Holland,Ont Cause: Acute TB Physician and Informant: Dr. J. L. Smith, MD Reg. #009976 That's all I can find. Marg in Sunny Alberta > >

Hi, I am trying to find out information regarding my great-great grandmother, Mary Adeline HAGEN MULDOON and her parents Owen HAGEN and MARY MORTLEY. Specifically, I am wondering if and how Mary Mortley may be related to Charles and Caroline MORTLEY. Mary Adeline HAGEN was born 21 March 1864 in Holland Township. I have not been able to find her in the 1871 census, although I have found her father, Owen Hagen. I have several documents that say that Owen Hagen was her father, but only her death registration to say her mother was Mary Mortley. I dont know if Owen and Mary Mortley were married or when they died, but I suspect Owen died before 1881. Between 1877 and 1881, Mary Adeline Hagen married Thomas MULDOON, son of Edward MULDOON and Ann PRIEL MULDOON, but I have not been able to locate a marriage registration for them, so I dont know for sure if they were legally married, but her obiutary says they were married. I am wondering of a connection between this Mary MORTLEY and Chalres and Caroline MORLTEY because they are the only MORTLEY family that I have found living in Grey County near Holland Township during that time period. If anyone knows of information regarding any of these families or their connection to ea! ch other can contact me, that would be greatly appreciated. Thank-you, Kimberly Muldoon-Staley

To all:- I have been working in a group of transcribers -- we obtained 100% for Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island, Yukon and NorthWest Territories -- now we hope to finish New Brunswick and celebrate the long weekend with 100% for that province. Checking provinces is fun at http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/ The following figures concern only Ontario:- Ontario is 77.72% transcribed -- terrific -- as there are many counties! Simcoe East is 98.93%; Simcoe North 79.86%; Simcoe South 100.03% Peel County has 100.02 (the enumerator wrote extra lines) Other ONE HUNDRED PERCENT CLUB Counties are:- Dufferin; Durham; Elgin East; Elgin West; Elgin North; Elgin South; Grey South; Haldimand; Lambton East; Lanark North; Oxford North; Oxford South; Lennox and Addington; Middlesex West; Muskoka; Parry Sound; Northumberland West; Peterborough East; Peterborough West; Prescott; Waterloo North; Wentworth; and York Centre - these records have 1911 street maps of Toronto . Many counties are in the 98% and 99% bracket -- only a few lines more to transcribe -- it does become addictive as I have learned. However, when finished, even though the 1911 records should have been released in 2003, we will have family records to check, and compare with the 1901 online records -- the 1906 ones are for three western provinces and are slowly being transcribed. Again -- a great big THANK YOU to all transcribers, Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Brampton, Peel Co., ON

Hello Bill. I believe you should be looking in Huron County. The Township of Grey is in Huron Township. This is confusing. From 1856 on it was on its own until 2001 when it was amalgamated into Huron East Municipality. I think you should begin by looking at Huron County Census for 1861 and 1871. There is a John McGregor listed in the 1871 census index at www.collectionscanada.ca MCGREGOR , JOHN Sex: Male Age: 26 Birthplace: ONTARIO Religion: Canada Presbyterian/C. Presb. Origin: SCOTCH Occupation: Farmer ( F ) District: HURON NORTH ( 026 ) Sub-district: Grey ( J ) Division: 2 Page: 30 Microfilm reel: C-9932 Reference: RG31 - Statistics Canada There are other John McGregors listed in Huron County. When I searched his name with a Huron County location, it came up with no records found. I redid the search with his name and all districts in the search terms and found the above listing. Sincerely, Janet Iles -----Original Message----- From: Bill Putt [mailto:puttwill@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 7:00 PM To: CAN-ONT-GREY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Grey Co.] John and Margarect McGregor in Grey County Hello, I recently found some information that lead me to more information on my ancestors in Canada. From another list, i was sent this marragie record of my ggg grand parents. Name: John McGregor Residence: Grey Father Name: William McGregor Spouse Name: Margaret Vincent Spouse Residence: Grey Spouse Father Name: John Vincent Marriage Date: 1 Jan 1864 Marriage County: Huron Family History Library Microfilm: 1030058 I have been unable to find any other information about John and Margaret in Grey nor any information on William. Any infomation any one has would be great. Thanks. -- Bill Putt Conchair for ConVersation 2006 www.Con-Versation.com ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Hi: Children whose births were registered after provincial registration was required, which was 1869: Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1907 Record County of Huron, Division of Brussels Name: Thomas George Mcgregor Date of Birth: 14 Sep 1871 Gender: Male Birth County: Huron Father's Name: John McGregor Mother's Name: Margaret Vincent Roll Number: MS933_1 Delayed birth registration # 901362 and declaration: I Robert McGregor of the Town of Teeswater in the County of Bruce, in the Province of Ontario, do solemnly declare that: I am the Uncle of the aforesaid; I have personal knowledge of the matters herein set forth, and the information herein is true in substance and in fact; The parents of the said person are dead; that I am the uncle of the said person and was on intimate terms with his family at the time of his birth; that although I was not present at his birth, I saw the child within a few days thereafter and was informed at the time and fully believe that he was born at the place and on the date stated. Sworn before me at the Town of Teeswater in the County of Bruce in the Province of Ontario, this 22nd day of October, 1937. Signed Robert McGregor, and notarized. Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1907 Record County of Huron, Division of Brussels Name: Mcgregor (no first name given) - This is likely Robert, age 8 on the 1881 census below. Date of Birth: 23 Mar 1873 Gender: Male Birth County: Huron Father's Name: John McGregor, book agent, Brussels Mother's Name: Margaret Vincent Roll Number: MS929_10 Reg. #008059 Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1907 Record County of Bruce, Division of Village of Teeswater Name: Mary Emily Mcgregor Date of Birth: 23 Jan 1878 Gender: Female Birth County: Bruce Father's Name: John McGregor, merchant, Teeswater Mother's Name: Margaret Vincent Roll Number: MS929_32 Reg. #002700 Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1907 Record County of Bruce, Division of Teeswater Name: Catherine Estar Mcgregor Date of Birth: 19 Sep 1879 Gender: Female Birth County: Bruce Father's Name: John McGregor, merchant, Teeswater Mother's Name: Margaret Vincent Roll Number: MS929_37 Reg. #002404 and here is the family, I think, on the 1881 census: John MC GRIGAR M Male Scottish 38 O. <Ontario> Farmer C. Presbyterian Margaret MC GRIGAR M Female Irish 38 Ireland C. Presbyterian John MC GRIGAR Male Scottish 14 O. <Ontario> S. C. Presbyterian William MC GRIGAR Male Scottish 13 O. <Ontario> C. Presbyterian Joseph MC GRIGAR Male Scottish 11 O. <Ontario> C. Presbyterian Thomas MC GRIGAR Male Scottish 10 O. <Ontario> C. Presbyterian Robart MC GRIGAR Male Scottish 8 O. <Ontario> C. Presbyterian Margret MC GRIGAR Female Scottish 6 O. <Ontario> C. Presbyterian Elisa MC GRIGAR Female Scottish 4 O. <Ontario> C. Presbyterian Mary MC GRIGAR Female Scottish 3 O. <Ontario> C. Presbyterian Catharine MC GRIGAR Female Scottish 1 O. <Ontario> C. Presbyterian Source Information: Census Place Greenock, Bruce South, Ontario Family History Library Film 1375911 NA Film Number C-13275 District 176 Sub-district G Division 1 Page Number 43 Household Number 197 The 3 eldest boys, John, William and perhaps Joseph will not have birth registrations as it was not req'd until 1869 and some people did not bother, even after that date. I think this is the birth reg for the daughter Elisa but the right side of the page is torn off and that's why there are ?? marks: Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1907 Record County of ??, Division of ?? (The next reg to the left of this one has Teeswater, so I assume it's County of Bruce, Division of Teeswater) Name: Eliza Jane Mcg?? Date of Birth: 7 May 1876 Gender: Female Birth County: Unknown Father's Name: John McG?? , merchant Mother's Name: Margaret Vin?? Roll Number: MS929_22 Reg. #002707 I didn't find a birth reg for daughter Margaret, b. abt 1874, but perhaps it was in terrible condition as well. You can check at your local LDS family history centre. Births after the 1881 census: Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1907 Record County of Bruce, Division of Greenock Name: Sarah Alice McGregor Date of Birth: 15 Feb 1882 Gender: Female Birth County: Bruce Father's Name: John McGregor, farmer, Greenock Mother's Name: Margaret Vincent Roll Number: MS929_52 Reg. #003299 Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1907 Record County of Bruce, Division of Greenock Name: Charlott Matilda McGregor (Indexed online as Mc Gagnon but it is McGregor when you look at the original) Date of Birth: 14 Mar 1884 Gender: Female Birth County: Bruce Father's Name: John Mc Gregor, farmer, Greenock Mother's Name: Margaret Vincent Roll Number: MS929_63 Reg. #002691 From www.automatedgenealogy.com , 1901 census, this may be Margaret with her Aunt: 1901 Census of Canada Page Information District: ON BRUCE (East/Est) (#48) Subdistrict: Teeswater (Village) E-1 Page 11 Image: View the image using a split screen or new window: large medium small MrSid Images are from National Archives Web Site Details: Schedule 1 Microfilm T-6461 Vincent Mary J M Head S Apr 10 1857 born ON, Presbyterian, housekeeper McGregor Maggie F Niece Single Aug 10 1876, ON, Presby, dressmaker I couldn't find the rest of the family on the 1901 census but you can look for yourself, using the spelling variations, at www.automatedgenealogy.com . This might be the uncle whose declaration was on the birth, above: 1901 Census of Canada Page Information District: ON BRUCE (East/Est) (#48) Subdistrict: Teeswater (Village) E-2 Page 1 Image: View the image using a split screen or new window: large medium small MrSid Images are from National Archives Web Site Details: Schedule 1 Microfilm T-6461 McGregor Robt M Head M Sep 10 1855 Ontario, Presby, farm laborer McGregor Annie F Wife M Oct 12 1854 Ontario or this in 1911: 1911 / Ontario / Bruce South / 58 Teeswater / page 1: McGregor Robert M Head S Sep 1850 This may be Margaret Vincent McGregor's father: Ontario, Canada Deaths, 1869-1932 Record County of Bruce, Division of Teeswater Name: John Vincent Death Date: 17 Aug 1886 Death Location: Bruce Occupation: Gentleman Gender: Male Estimated Birth Year: abt 1799 Birth Location: County Cavan?, Ireland Cause: Indigestion, 4 days sick Informant: Mary J. Vincent Religion: Episcopalian Reg. #001683 John & Mary in the 1881 census: John VINCENT W Male Irish 75 Ireland Farmer Church of England Mary VINCENT Female Irish 21 O <Ontario> Church of England Source Information: Census Place Teeswater, Bruce South, Ontario Family History Library Film 1375911 NA Film Number C-13275 District 176 Sub-district J Page Number 1 Household Number 5 I didn't find a death reg for Mary Vincent. Sorry, that's all I can find. Marg in Sunny Alberta Bill Putt wrote: > Hello, > I recently found some information that lead me to more > information on my ancestors in Canada. From another list, i was sent > this marragie record of my ggg grand parents. > > Name: John McGregor > Residence: Grey > Father Name: William McGregor > Spouse Name: Margaret Vincent > Spouse Residence: Grey > Spouse Father Name: John Vincent > Marriage Date: 1 Jan 1864 > Marriage County: Huron > Family History Library Microfilm: 1030058 > > I have been unable to find any other information about John and > Margaret in Grey nor any information on William. Any infomation any > one has would be great. Thanks. >

Hello, I recently found some information that lead me to more information on my ancestors in Canada. From another list, i was sent this marragie record of my ggg grand parents. Name: John McGregor Residence: Grey Father Name: William McGregor Spouse Name: Margaret Vincent Spouse Residence: Grey Spouse Father Name: John Vincent Marriage Date: 1 Jan 1864 Marriage County: Huron Family History Library Microfilm: 1030058 I have been unable to find any other information about John and Margaret in Grey nor any information on William. Any infomation any one has would be great. Thanks. -- Bill Putt Conchair for ConVersation 2006 www.Con-Versation.com

I am seeking the gender and death/burial information for a twin to Issac ACHESON born the 21 Sept. 1900 in Euphrasia Twnsp. Both twins died as youngsters. The parent's names were Alexander (Sandy) ACHESON and Katherine Kelso (JOHNSTON)ACHESON. Thank you, Geri Sera

It is hard to believe that at this time last night all I knew about this family was from my grandmother's notes that her aunt may have moved to Tilbury area. The 1901 Census helped, but the people who responded to this query have given so many details. Many thanks to all of you. I really do appreciate your efforts. I will pursue this family to see if I can find descendants. Sincerely Carol

I will be out of the office starting 04/28/2006 and will not return until 05/02/2006.

The following is a census article, which may be re-written in your own words -- and sent to as many friends as possible. Coverage is needed in newspapers so article could be printed and taken to your newspaper or emailed to Letters at newspapers. We need 100% census records completion on May 16, 2006 Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee ===================== On the upcoming Census form there is a question re the release of your personal information to the public in 92 years time. I am writing to ask when you return your Census forms on May 16 if you would please mark YES to item 53 so personal information may be released to all families doing genealogical research in 2098. You would be helping present and future families to know who you are and the type of work you did in 2006, where and when you immigrated to Canada etc. If you mark NO you restrict your family and other relatives knowing where they fit in the family tree. You may not care where they fit but others do. Please consider marking an X in the YES box. The following question on this year's census return is for all persons who usually live in Canada including those less than 15 years old. 53. The Statistics Act guarantees the confidentiality of your census information. Only if you mark "YES" to this question will your personal information be made public, 92 years after the 2006 Census. If you mark "NO"or leave the answer blank, your personal information will never be made publicly available. Does this person agree to make his/her 2006 Census information available for public release in 2098 (92 years after the census)? � Yes � No Inclusion of this 'informed consent' provision in Censuses to be conducted from 2006 was the price forced upon genealogists and historians seeking to regain public access to Historic Census records to which existing legislation already stated we were entitled. We had been advised that unless this provision was accepted the government would not present the Bill (S-18) to end a seven-year campaign to regain public access to Historic Census records in accordance with provisions of the Access to Information and Privacy Acts. Help to ensure your place in the history of Canada. On Census Day 16 May 2006, answer YES to allow your information to be made available to your descendants in 2098. Ask everyone you know to do so as well. You may say "who cares". Maybe you don't but one of your ancestors/family members might one day in the future. To assist your city or town, every resident should complete the census -- grants for hospitals, roads, etc. are given on the number of people completing the 2006 census form.

To all Canadians -- at home or abroad:- The following is an article which may be re-written in your own words and forwarded to newspapers immediately and to as many friends as you wish -- we hope to have 100% participation in this May 16, 2006 census. Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee ========================= On the upcoming Census form there is a question re the release of your personal information to the public in 92 years time. I am writing to ask when you return your Census forms on May 16 if you would please mark YES to item 53 so personal information may be released to all families doing genealogical research in 2098. You would be helping present and future families to know who you are and the type of work you did in 2006, where and when you immigrated to Canada etc. If you mark NO you restrict your family and other relatives knowing where they fit in the family tree. You may not care where they fit but others do. Please consider marking an X in the YES box. The following question on this year's census return is for all persons who usually live in Canada including those less than 15 years old. 53. The Statistics Act guarantees the confidentiality of your census information. Only if you mark "YES" to this question will your personal information be made public in 2098, 92 years after the 2006 Census. If you mark "NO"or leave the answer blank, your personal information will never be made publicly available. Does this person agree to make his/her 2006 Census information available for public release in 2098 (92 years after the census)? � Yes � No Inclusion of this 'informed consent' provision in Censuses to be conducted from 2006 was the price forced upon genealogists and historians seeking to regain public access to Historic Census records to which existing legislation already stated we were entitled. We had been advised that unless this provision was accepted the government would not present the Bill (S-18) to end a seven-year campaign to regain public access to Historic Census records in accordance with provisions of the Access to Information and Privacy Acts. Help to ensure your place in the history of Canada. On Census Day 16 May 2006, answer YES to allow your information to be made available to your descendants in 2098. Ask everyone you know to do so as well. You may say "who cares". Maybe you don't but one of your ancestors/family members might one day in the future. Also the census records assist your city or town to obtain grants for items such as hospitals, roads -- money lost is about $30,000 for each person who does not fill out and return the 2006 census form -- help your city and thus help to decrease your taxation bills.

There is an Elizabeth Ann SMITH born Glenelg Township, 4/4/1883/83 Cert. # 9311 MS929 reel 59 L.D. S. Film #. 1845585 The copy of the 1901 census I have has, Lewis C. SMITH, Dec.16, 1844, 56 born Ont. Pres, farmer, Sc. Elizabeth, wife, November 19, 1854, 44? Elizabeth A., daughter, April 4, 1883, 17 Charlotte M., Jan. 11, 1879 age 22, Jane O. March 8, 1887, 14 Robert L., March 4, 1889, 12, David McK. April 1, 1894, 7. Marriage from Ontario Vital Statistic. Lewis C. Smith married at Sullivan Township, 03/29/1877 Reg. # 003-176/77 LDS Cert. Film # 1863648 Ms932 Reel 23 He married Charlotte Byers. The a Charlotte SMITH, died in Glenelg Township, 22 January 1878 Reg. # 004-090/78 LDS Certificate Film # 1853223 Ms 935 Reel 18 I bet Elizabeth was wife # 2. and Charlotte's births was Jan. 1878. She is listed as a servant in 1901. Seems somewhar odd. Jopie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy and Carol Small" <rsmall@wwdc.com> To: <CAN-ONT-GREY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 8:26 PM Subject: [Grey Co.] Smith-Lee family >I am searching for the family of Lewis C. Smith of Glenelg Township and > Elizabeth Lee of Holland Township. They lived in Glenelg until about > 1902. Family stories say they may have gone to the Tilbury area. I have > been unable to trace them there. > > Their family consisted of Charlotte born 1879; Elizabeth born 1883; > Mary born 1887; Jane (1901 Census says June, but Jane is more probable) > born 1887; Robert born 1889; and David born 1894 (!901 Census says 1874, > but more likely 1894). > > Any help greatly appreciated. > > Sincerely > Carol Small > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/326 - Release Date: 4/27/2006 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/326 - Release Date: 4/27/2006

Hi Carol: Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1907 Record County of Grey, Division of Glenelg Name: Elizabeth Ann Smith Date of Birth: 4 Apr 1883 Gender: Female Birth County: Grey Father's Name: Lewis C Smith, farmer, Glenelg Mother's Name: Elizabeth Fee - the registrar has definitely written Fee but likely should be Lee Roll Number: MS929_59 Reg. #009311 Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1907 Record County of Grey, Division of Glenelg Name: Mary Celena Smith Date of Birth: 17 May 1885 Gender: Female Birth County: Grey Father's Name: Lewis C Smith, farmer, Gelnelg Mother's Name: Elizabeth Lee Roll Number: MS929_70 Reg.. #011600 Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1907 Record County of Grey, Division of Glenelg Name: Jenny Olive Smith Date of Birth: 8 Mar 1887 Gender: Female Birth County: Grey Father's Name: Lewis Carmichel Smith, farmer, Glenelg Mother's Name: Elizabeth Lee Roll Number: MS929_81 Reg. #009968 Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1907 Record County of Grey, Division of Glenelg Name: Robert Lewis Smith Date of Birth: 5 Mar 1889 Gender: Male Birth County: Grey Father's Name: Lewis C Smith, farmer, Glenelg Mother's Name: Elizabeth Lee Roll Number: MS929_93 Reg. #012263 Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1907 Record County of Grey, Division of Glenelg Name: John Alexander MacKenzie Smith Date of Birth: 7 Aug 1892 Gender: Male Birth County: Grey Father's Name: Lewis C Smith, farmer, Glenelg Mother's Name: Elizabeth Lee Roll Number: MS929_109 Reg. #009444 Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1907 Record County of Grey, Division of Glenelg Name: David Mckenzie Smith Date of Birth: 1 Apr 1894 Gender: Male Birth County: Grey Father's Name: Lewis Carmicheal Smith, farmer, Glenelg Mother's Name: Elizabeth Lee Roll Number: MS929_120 Reg. #010184 The one that Jopie mentioned: Ontario Marriage Index, 1858-1899 Record about Lewis C. Smith Name: Lewis C. Smith Spouse Name: Charlotte Byers Marriage Date: 29 Mar 1877 Marriage Place: Sullivan Township Registration Number: 003176 Archives of Ontario Microfilm: 23 Here is the marriage index entry for Lewis and Elisabeth: Ontario Marriage Index, 1858-1899 Record about Louis C. Smith Name: Louis C. Smith Spouse Name: Elisabeth Lee Marriage Date: 24 Feb 1880 Marriage Place: Holland Township Registration Number: 003375 Archives of Ontario Microfilm: 33 You will have to obtain copies of the marriages from the LDS family history centre near you as I don't have access to the full registrations which will show parents, etc. This may be him in 1881: Lewis SMITH M Male Scottish 37 O <Ontario> Farmer C. Presbyterian Elizabeth SMITH M Female Irish 24 O <Ontario> C. Presbyterian Source Information: Census Place Glenelg, Grey South, Ontario Family History Library Film 1375896 NA Film Number C-13260 District 154 Sub-district D Division 1 Page Number 14 Household Number 67 The full death reg for the Charlotte Smith whom Jopie also mentioned: Ontario, Canada Deaths, 1869-1932 Record about Charlotte Smith Name: Charlotte Smith Death Date: 22 Jan 1878 Death Location: Grey Cause: Purperal fever, 5 days Gender: Female Religion: Presbyterian Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852 Birth Location: Canada Occupation: Farmer's wife (no spouse name given) Physician: Dr. Deymard? Informant: A. McDiarmid, Clergyman Reg. #004090?? Hard to read The birth year of the daughter Charlotte M,. b January 11, 1879 should perhaps be 1878 but I couldn't find a birth reg for her so perhaps due to her mother's death, her birth was not registered. This appears to be the family in the 1911 census: 1911 Canada Census > Ontario > Toronto West > Sub-District 88 - Ward 6, page 4, address 989 Dufferin: Elizabeth Smith Head Widow, born May?, 1856 Own money Elizabeth Ann Smith Dau Single, born April, 1883 Dressmaker in Department Store Mary Smith dau, Single, born May, 1885 Jean Smith Dau, Single, born April, 1887 Operator in Dep't store Robert Smith Son, Single, born March, 1889 Farm ___?? David Smith Son, Single, born April, 1894 Bookkeeper for CPR All born Ontario, Presbyterian. Take a look at the page yourself and perhaps you can decifer more. This looks like Lewis' death reg: Ontario, Canada Deaths, 1869-1932 Record County of Kent, Division of Tilbury East Name: Louis Carmichal Smith Death Date: 12 May 1904 Death Location: East 3/4 of the North 1/2 of Lot 17 M. R. S., Kent Age: 59 years, 5 months Gender: Male Occupation: Farmer, married Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Birth Location: Ontario - Glengarry is written above Ontario but I cannot tell if that refers to Lewis' death reg or the one of the person listed above him who was born in Scotland and there is a Glengarry both in Scotland and in Ontario. Cause of Death: Liver Trouble for 4 weeks Physician: Dr. Ferguson Religion: Presbyterian Informant: Mrs. Elizabeth Smith, May 13, 1904 Reg. #014205 I did not find a death reg for Elizabeth Lee Smith but she may have remarried. Check at the LDS family history centre near you for births, marriages, deaths for her and the children. Hope this helps! Marg in Sunny Alberta Roy and Carol Small wrote: >I am searching for the family of Lewis C. Smith of Glenelg Township and >Elizabeth Lee of Holland Township. They lived in Glenelg until about >1902. Family stories say they may have gone to the Tilbury area. I have >been unable to trace them there. > >Their family consisted of Charlotte born 1879; Elizabeth born 1883; >Mary born 1887; Jane (1901 Census says June, but Jane is more probable) >born 1887; Robert born 1889; and David born 1894 (!901 Census says 1874, >but more likely 1894). > >Any help greatly appreciated. > >Sincerely >Carol Small > > >============================== >View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > >