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    1. Post 1901 Census - letter to Allan Rock
    2. Muriel M. Davidson
    3. The letter would be great as a Letter to the Editor or forwarded -- hope it is read by and a reply received from Mr. Rock. Muriel M. Davidson [email protected] ================ Greetings All. I copy below, for your information, the text of a letter mailed today to Allan Rock, Minister of Industry regarding Information Commissioner John Reid's response to complaints about Statistics Canada's refusal to transfer 1906 Census Records to the National Archivist. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts [email protected] Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted. ================================ Dear Sir: On 11 December 2002 Information Commissioner John M. Reid responded to a complaint by Professor Bill Waiser (submitted in November 2000) regarding the refusal of Statistics Canada and Chief Statistician Ivan P. Fellegi to transfer care and control of nominal schedules of the 1906 Special Census of the Western Provinces (Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba) to the National Archivist for subsequent public access in accordance with the statutes of Canada. On 12 December 2002 Mr. Reid responded to a further thirty individuals who had submitted similar complaints. I am aware of complaints by others, including my own, that have not yet been responded to. In each response to complainants Mr. Reid stated: "As a result of this investigation, I found that access to the withheld records is authorized pursuant to paragraph 19(2)(d) of the Access to Information Act by reference to subsection 8(3) of the Privacy Act and s.6 of the Privacy Regulations. On October 18, 2002, I recommended that SC release the requested schedules. However, on November 1, 2002, Dr. Ivan P. Fellegi, Chief Statistician, informed me that he does not intend to follow my recommendation." This finding supports the position of the National Archivist, Ian E. Wilson, who has requested transfer of the records in question to his care and control. It supports also the findings of the Expert Panel on Access to Historical Census Records that, in June 2000, recommended the immediate release of the 1906 Schedules of Census with the orderly release of subsequent Censuses, 92 years after collection, in accordance with the Access to Information and Privacy Acts. Makeup of the Expert Panel included, among others, the Honourable Gérard La Forest, retired Supreme Court Judge, and John McCamus, Professor of Law at York University. Mr. Reid's findings are supported by the legal opinion of Ann Chaplin, Senior Counsel, Constitutional and Administrative Law, Justice Canada (1 August 2000). Ms. Chaplin, unlike those giving opinions before her, considered all aspects of the situation, including the four Statutes of Canada that have a bearing on this issue (National Archives of Canada Act, Statistics Act, Access to Information Act, and Privacy Act). Ms. Chaplin came to different conclusions than those before her that considered only the narrow aspect of a 'Secrecy' clause in Instructions to Officers and Enumerators of Census. During the entire tenure of Dr. Fellegi as Chief Statistician of Canada, he has opposed public access to Historic Census Records, and has refused to transfer care and control of those records to the National Archivist in accordance with the applicable legislation. In so doing he has contravened legal provisions of the National Archives of Canada Act, the Access to Information Act, and the Privacy Act. By extension, it might be considered that the Minister of Industry, being the Minister Responsible for Statistics Canada, has also been in contravention of these Statutes. With the possible exception of the Privacy Commissioner, Chief Statistician Ivan Fellegi stands alone in his opposition to public access of 92-year old Census records. All studies and surveys to date have supported such access. Mr. Minister, I mean no disrespect to either yourself or Dr. Fellegi. It is time, however, that the Chief Statistician was directed to obey the laws of Canada. No civil servant, no matter how high ranking, is above the Laws of Canada. We call on you to direct the Chief Statistician of Canada to obey the law and immediately transfer care and control of Nominal Schedules of the 1906 Special Census of Western Canada to the National Archivist. If, after being directed to do so, Dr. Fellegi refuses still to turn care and control of these records over to the National Archivist, he should be replaced with someone who is prepared to obey the Laws of Canada. He should be encouraged to take his well-deserved, and overdue, retirement. Thank you. Sincerely, Gordon A. Watts Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/17/02

    12/24/2002 05:53:08
    1. [ONT] Marriages - Grey Co, 1881
    2. Ida & Merle King
    3. With Steve's permission to reprint here. Subject: [ONT] Marriages - Grey Co, 1881 Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 18:58:38 -0500 From: sjmarsh <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Some more marriages - to go on line at: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~maryc/thisisit.htm format - Registration No.; County; Groom; age; birthplace; residence; status, occupation; his parents; bride; age; birthplace; residence; her parents; witnesses; marriage date and place. Ontario Birth Registrations - full transcriptions http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~births/index.htm #003317-81 (Grey Co) Charles Wesley BOWLER, 23, Artemesia, same, b, farmer, s/o William & Ann BOWLER, married Mary Ann HOPPS, 19, Bentinck, Artemesia, s, d/o William & Mary Ann HOPPS, witn: John BOWLER, Eliza MUNSHAW, both Artemesia, married 11 January 1881, Markdale #003318-81 (Grey Co) William MYERS, 20, York Twp., Euphrasia, b, farmer, s/o Joseph & Mary Ann MYERS, married Mary Helena RODMAN, 20, Scugog, Euphrasia, s, d/o Henry & Harriet RODMAN, witn; Duncan ARNOTT, Elizabeth MYERS, both Euphrasia, married 13 January 1881, Markdale #003319-81 (Grey Co) John C. GLENCROSS, 27, Scotland, Glenelg, b, farmer, s/o Joseph & Christina GLENCROSS, married Mary Ann EDWARDS, 23, Ontario, Glenelg, s, d/o Thomas & Eliza EDWARDS, witn; Mrs. A. McDIARMID of Holland, Mrs. Wm. LEDINGHAM of Bentinck, married 25 Jnauary 1881, Latona #003320-81 (Grey Co) Donald McFARLANE, 26, York Ontario, Markdale, b, blacksmith, s/o John & Annabella McFARLANE, married Flora BEATON, 22, Glenelg, same, s, d/o Alexander & Catharine BEATON, witn; William BEATON, Mary Ann McFARLANE, both Glenelg, married 16 February 1881, Glenelg #003321-81 (Grey Co) Hugh CAMPBELL, 25, Vaughan Ontario, Glenelg, b, farmer, s/o Alexander & Flora CAMPBELL, married Mary Ann McDONALD, 25, Scotland, Bentinck, s, d/o John & Margaret McDONALD, witn: George McLEAN, Isabella McDONALD, both Glenelg, married 16 March 1881, Glenelg #003322-81 (Grey Co) Hugh McDONALD, 36, Scotland, Glenelg, b, farmer, s/o Donald & Catharine McDONALD, married Mary McGILVRAY, 23, Canada, Glenelg, s, d/o Dougald & Flora McGILVRAY, witn; Donald McGILVRAY, James VAUGHAN, both Glenelg, married 29 March 1881, Latona Church Steve Marshall

    12/24/2002 05:02:12
    1. Merry Christmas to Grey and all of her descendants
    2. Kathy Hoeldke
    3. Merry Christmas to you all may it be joyous and filled with a genealogist dreams... and Happy New Year...not to much celebration after all we still need to able to do the Cemetery Stomp.... Love you all.... Kathy [email protected]

    12/24/2002 01:06:03
    1. Wright
    2. Kimberly Muldoon-Staley
    3. Hi Doug, I am searching for Wright family in Amabel and Keppel as well. My great-great-grandparents, Alexander Wright and Jane Molloy were married in Wiarton in 1887. Alexander was the son of John Wright and Catherine Doupe, natives of Ireland. They lived in Huron Township, Bruce County also. Alexander had siblings Jacob, John, Rachel and Sarah Wright. Jacob was born in Hepworth. If you are connected to these Wrights, contact me and we can share more information. Kim _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_smartspamprotection_3mf

    12/23/2002 06:54:34
    1. Shallow Lake, Keppel Twp.
    2. Douglas B. Pattison
    3. Fellow listers: I'm looking for information on families with the following surnames in the Shallow Lake area of Keppel Township: Cruickshank Graham McDonald Patterson Smith White Wright I'm also interested in Park Head and Hepworth in Amabel Twp. and Allenford in Amabel and/or Arran Township in Bruce Co. Any assistance would be appreciated. Doug Pattison Victoria, BC

    12/22/2002 11:38:23
    1. Post 1901 Census - Press Release of Professor Bill Waiser on line
    2. Muriel M. Davidson
    3. Forwarding for Gordon -- I have checked the URL -- All is A-OK. Muriel M. Davidson [email protected] Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee http://www.globalgenealogy.com/CEnsus/Petition.htm http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/committee.html http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/1906census.html ========================= Greetings All. As promised in my message on Wednesday, I have placed online the full text of Professor Bill Waiser's press release held 18 December 2002 at the University of Saskatchewan. The press release was in response to the long awaited response by Information Commissioner John M. Reid to Professor Waiser's complaint about Statistics Canada's refusal to allow public access to records of the 1906 Special Census of the Western Provinces. The Information Commisioner found that access to the withheld records is authorized pursuant to paragraph 19(2)(c) of the Access to Information Act by reference to subsection 8(3) of the Privacy Act and s.6(d) of the Privacy Regulations. On 18 October 2002 he recommended that Statistics Canada release the requested schedules. Chief Statistician Ivan P. Fellegi advised the Information Commissioner he does not intend to follow that recommendation. In so doing we believe that he is breaking the laws of Canada. No public servant, no matter how highly placed, is above the law. We call upon Industry Minister Allan Rock to immediately direct the Chief Statistician to transfer care and control of these records to the National Archivist for subsequent public access. Professor Waiser's press release is accessible through a link on the Post 1901 Census Project website, at the URL following my signature. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts [email protected] Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/17/02

    12/21/2002 04:55:23
    1. Sarawak (Mt Pleasant) Cemetery) Owen Sound
    2. samshous
    3. Could someone please send me the dates listed on the headstone for Wm J Linn and Elizabeth A Carson and Margaret Semple please. The page is missing from the Owen Sound Library. Thanks

    12/19/2002 03:06:50
    1. I'm back
    2. cindy
    3. Hi All Just a short note to let people know that I am again back on the lists, and back to my regular email address. My computer has been down for the last 3 months, and I am now back. If anyone has been trying to send me mail, and found that it was not getting through this is the reason. I have had to have my computer rebuilt, and as a result I have lost all the addresses in my address book. Talk to you all soon. Cindy

    12/17/2002 12:59:52
    1. obit lookup HUGHES, ROBERT died 1945
    2. larry dodds
    3. posted to several lists. the obit maybe in the Toronto papers and the Orangeville area papers. looking for the obit of Robert HUGHES died Jan 8 1945 and buried in Orangeville. any help appreciated. searching DODDS, CORBETT HALL, LAWRENCE, MARTIN, MANN, call 1-204-785-2531, e-mail [email protected]

    12/17/2002 06:51:35
    1. Look Up CREIGHTON
    2. Lynn Crockett
    3. Hi Brenda: Would appreciate any baptismals for the surname CREIGHTON. It is very possible some were performed by Rev. Kennedy CREIGHTON. Thanks, Lynn

    12/17/2002 04:03:02
    1. Post 1901 Census: Re:1906 Census announcement
    2. Muriel M. Davidson
    3. Forwarded on behalf of Gordon A. Watts, Co-Chair Muriel M. Davidson [email protected] Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee =============== Greetings All. My thanks to all who have forwarded to me the message relating to Professor Bill Waiser's response from the Information Commissioner to his complaint regarding Statistics Canada's refusal to grant access to the 1906 Special Western Census. I have been in contact with Professor Waiser who will be providing me with a copy of his press release. I will be able to post this after his press conference Wednesday morning. I am advised that others who complained to the Information Commissioner regarding this matter are now receiving their responses as well. I expect that mine will be waiting for me on my return home at the end of the week. I would request that all those who receive a response from the Information Commissioner regarding their complaint on this matter to please send copies of those responses to me. I will be putting them all together and submitting copies of them to our lawyer, Lois Sparling. They may well play a part in our current legal action. Copies of these responses may be sent to me at 1455 Delia Drive Port Coquitlam, BC V3C 2V9 Alternately, they may be faxed to me at 604-942-6843. In this instance, however, I would prefer to receive photocopies in the mail. I would request also that those receiving responses from the Information Commissioner complete and return the forms that accompany the response, giving the Information Commissioner authourity to proceed to the Federal Court on their behalf. At this time I would not recommend proceeding individually because of the cost involved. If the Information Commissioner proceeds on our behalf, the cost is to the government, not ourselves. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts [email protected] Co-chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/ en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beverley Gutenberg" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 2:24 PM Subject: [ALBERTA] Fw: 1906 Census announcement On Wednesday, Dec. 18 there will an annoucement that Dr. Bill Waiser won his complaint that he took to Information Services against Stats Canada for the release of the 1906 Census. Information Services found his complaint to be valid and ordered Stats Canada to release these documents immediately. You are invited to be in attendance for the press conference at 10:00 Am in the Agricultural Building, 51 Campus Dr, University of Saskatchewan. The conference will be in the Atrium, coffee and refreshment will be served. Densyse Smith (via Dr Bill Waiser) asked me to get this information out to you - so - please try and attend - the more bodies at this conference the better, this will show the government that we are supporters to have the censuses released. Looking forward to seeing many supporters there - Lynda. Please feel free to forward this announcement to other lists. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 12/6/02

    12/16/2002 03:30:45
    1. LOOK UP - MCINTYRE & BRADBURY
    2. Joanne Bradbury
    3. Thank you for the offer. I am looking for BRADBURY & MCINTYRE. Joanne Toronto

    12/16/2002 11:45:06
    1. Re: Look up Habermehl and Klemmer
    2. danbren
    3. Hi Connie, There was no HABERMEHL or KLEMMER They are listed as Evang. on the 1901 census for Normanby Twp. Here is the information form the 1901 census just incase you don't already have it. Normanby g-3 page 14 HABERMEHL, John, head, male, married D.O.B. February 28, 1873 in Ontario, Religion-Evange Occupation-Farmer Origin-German Nationality-Canadian Lang. Spoken-German but can speak English. His wife: Mary b. October 15, 1874 Son Garfield b. November 11, 1898 Sister Laura b. December 26, 1887 all born in Ontario Normanby g-3 page 17 HABERMEHL, Kathie or Kather, head, female, Widow, D.O.B. June 13, 1863 in Ontario Origin-German Nationality-Canadian Religion-Evange Lang. Spoken-German can speak English Hope this is of some help. Brenda ----- Original Message ----- From: "cdugger" <[email protected]> To: "danbren" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 12:53 PM Subject: Look up Habermehl and Klemmer > I don't have a clue as to which church my ancestors attended, but if you > could look for Habermehl and Klemmer, I would be very appreciative. > > Connie Dugger > > danbren wrote: > > > l have the transcripe of the Wesleyan Methodist Baptismal Register for Grey > > County 1846-1910. > > If anyone would like a look-up please email me. > > Please put > > LOOK-UP and the surname in the subject line. > > Thank you > > Brenda > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > >

    12/16/2002 06:41:18
    1. LOOK UP OFFER
    2. danbren
    3. l have the transcripe of the Wesleyan Methodist Baptismal Register for Grey County 1846-1910. If anyone would like a look-up please email me. Please put LOOK-UP and the surname in the subject line. Thank you Brenda

    12/16/2002 05:54:57
    1. conformation GARVEY surname should read Gamey Osprey 1881 census
    2. Ida & Merle King
    3. Hi Lynn It's great that you found a connection for your Joseph Wesley Gamey to Thomas and Rachel. It now proves that in the 1881 census listing for Garvey should read Gamey. Thanks to all our helpers for going the extra mile. Without you our list would be non existent. Happy Holiday's Ida 1881 Census Place: Osprey, Grey East, Ontario, Canada Source: FHL Film 1375897 NAC C-13261 Dist 155 SubDist D Div 3 Page 8 Family 42 Sex Marr Age Origin Birthplace Thomas GARVEY M M 56 Irish Ireland Occ: Farmer Religion: Methodist Canada Rachel GARVEY F M 55 French Ontario Religion: Methodist Canada Mariah GARVEY F 31 Irish Ontario Religion: Methodist Canada Catherine GARVEY F 29 Irish Ontario Religion: Methodist Canada Milissa GARVEY F 21 Irish Ontario Religion: Methodist Canada Joseph GARVEY M 19 Irish Ontario Occ: Farmer Son Religion: Methodist Canada Thomas GARVEY M 17 Irish Ontario Occ: Farmer Son Religion: Methodist Canada Aggie GARVEY F 14 Irish Ontario Religion: Methodist Canada my Angels posting: > Here are some GAMEY's from the Wesleyan Methodist Baptismal Register, > Grey County 1846-1910. > Ref. # 1424 pg. 69 > GAMES, Thomas Albert, b. in Osprey Twp. on Oct. 05, 1864, bap. on May 7, > 1867 Osprey Twp., Father Thos. GAMEY, Mother Rachel GAMEY, Residence Osprey > Twp. Minister C. HAMILTON > > Ref. # 1425 pg. 70 > GAMEY, Rachel Agnes, b. in Osprey Twp., on Feb. 23, 1867, bap. in Osprey > Twp. May 7, 1867, Father Thomas GAMEY, Mother Rachel GAMEY, Residence Osprey > Twp. Minister C. HAMILTON > Ref. # 2158 pg. 105 > GAMEY, Joseph Wesley, b. in Osprey Twp. on Feb. 28, 1862, bap. in Osprey > Twp. on Apr. 26, 1863, Father Thos. GAMEY, Mother Rachel GAMEY, > Residence Osprey Twp. Minister Isaac BAKER. Lynn & John Aziz wrote: > > Thanks to you Ida and your angel, it helped me connect my Gamey connection > with Thomas and Rachel. > > Lynn

    12/16/2002 03:41:26
    1. Re: 1891/1901 census GAMEY/GARVEY Osprey lookup please
    2. Lynn & John Aziz
    3. Thanks to you Ida and your angel, it helped me connect my Gamey connection with Thomas and Rachel. Lynn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ida & Merle King" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 10:19 AM Subject: Re: 1891/1901 census GAMEY/GARVEY Osprey lookup please > Hi Karen, Sue, Vivian & Richard and my other angel (:-) > > With your help I believe I found two of the children of Mary Gamey & > Jacob Parliment thanks to Karens posting. > > I'll keep looking for the final resting place of Layfette Badgero. > Thanks Sue for the McKechnie cemetery lookup. > > Vivian thanks for the additional Lumley families... > > My angel sent these Gamey's privately so I'll include them here for the > Archives..Thank you > later > Ida > > Here are some GAMEY's from the Wesleyan Methodist Baptismal Register, > Grey > County 1846-1910. > > Ref # 1402 pg. 68 > GAMEY, Mary, b. in Osprey Twp. on Jan. 24, 1857, bap. on Oct. 04, 1857, > in > Osprey Twp. Father - Joseph GAMEY , Mother - Jane GAMEY, Residence > Osprey > Twp., Minister - Thos. HANNA. > > Ref # 1407 pg. 69, > GAMEY, Eliza, b. in Osprey Twp. on Sept. 14, 1857, bap. on May 14, 1858, > in > Osprey Twp., Father Thomas GAMEY, Mother R. GAMEY, Residence Osprey Twp, > minister, Thos HANNA. > > Ref. # 1424 pg. 69 > GAMES, Thomas Albert, b. in Osprey Twp. on Oct. 05, 1864, bap. on May 7, > 1867 Osprey Twp., Father Thos. GAMEY, Mother Rachel GAMEY, Residence > Osprey > Twp. Minister C. HAMILTON > > Ref. # 1425 pg. 70 > GAMEY, Rachel Agnes, b. in Osprey Twp., on Feb. 23, 1867, bap. in Osprey > Twp. May 7, 1867, Father Thomas GAMEY, Mother Rachel GAMEY, Residence > Osprey > Twp. Minister C. HAMILTON > > Ref # 1427 pg. 70 > GAMEY, Isabella, b. in Osprey Twp., on Apr 1866 ( no day), bap. in > Osprey > Twp. Mar. 26, 1867, Father Josiah GAMEY, mother Cath'e, Residence Osprey > Twp. Minister C. HAMILTON. > > Ref. # 1435 pg. 70 > GAMEY, Albert Edward, b. in Osprey Twp. on Aug. 22, 1864, bap. in Osprey > Twp. Apr. 14, 1865, Father Josiah GAMEY, Mother Cath'e GAMEY, Residence > Osprey Twp. Minister D. E. BROWNELL. > > Ref. # 1436 pg. 70 > GAMEY, Francis, b. in Osprey Twp. on Sept. 14, 1864, bap. in Osprey Twp. > on > Apr. 14, 1865, Father Josiah GAMEY, Mother Cath'e GAMEY, Residence > Osprey > Twp., Minister D. E. BROWNELL. > > Ref # 2130 pg. 104 > GAMEY, Edward, b. in Osprey Twp. on Feb. 17, 1861, bap, in Osprey Twp on > Oct. 15, 1861, Father Joseph GAMEY, Mother Jane GAMEY, Residence Osprey > Twp. > Minister Isaac BAKER > > Ref. # 2131 pg. 104 > GAMEY, Marg't Jane, b. in Osprey Twp. on Sept. 05, 1860, bap. in Osprey > twp. > on Oct. 15, 1861, Father Joseph GAMEY, Mother Cath'e GAMEY, Residence > Osprey > Twp. Minister Isaac BAKER. > > Ref. # 2158 pg. 105 > GAMEY, Joseph Wesley, b. in Osprey Twp. on Feb. 28, 1862, bap. in Osprey > Twp. on Apr. 26, 1863, Father Thos. GAMEY, Mother Rachel GAMEY, > Residence > Osprey Twp. Minister Isaac BAKER. > > Ref. # 2175 pg. 106 > GAMEY, Thos, b. in Osprey Twp. on Apr. 04, 1859, bap. in Osprey Twp. on > July > 04, 1871, Father John GAMEY, Mother Sarah GAMEY, Residence Osprey Twp. > Minister W. TUCKER. > > Ref. # 2176 pg. 106 > GAMEY, Margaret, b. in Osprey Twp. on Oct. 04, 1860, bap. in Osprey Twp. > on > July 04, 1871, Father John GAMEY, Mother Sarah GAMEY, Residence Osprey > Twp. > Minister W. TUCKER > > Ref. # 2177 pg. 106 > GAMEY, Elizabeth, b. in Osprey Twp. on June 24, 1862, bap. in Osprey Twp > on > July 04, 1871, Father John GAMEY, Mother Sarah GAMEY, Residence Osprey > Twp. > Minister W. TUCKER > > Ref. # 2178 pg. 106 > GAMEY, John, b. in Osprey Twp., on June 25, 1870, bap. in Osprey Twp. on > July 04, 1871, Father John GAMEY, Mother Sarah GAMEY, Residence Osprey > Twp., > Minister W. TUCKER. > > Karen Haffermehl wrote: > > Lot 1, Con 5 > > Gamey, John, 27 > > Ellen, 24 > > David Parliament, servant, 12 > > I believe David & Ethel below are the children of Jacob Parliment & Mary > Gamey > > > Lot 1 and 2, Con 7 > > Gamey, Joseph, 39 > > Carrie, 37 > > Stanley, 11 > > Clifford, 7 > > Edith, less than 1 > > Ethel Parliament, domestic, 14 > > ______________________________

    12/14/2002 01:15:42
    1. Re: 1891/1901 census GAMEY/GARVEY Osprey lookup please
    2. Ida & Merle King
    3. Hi Karen, Sue, Vivian & Richard and my other angel (:-) With your help I believe I found two of the children of Mary Gamey & Jacob Parliment thanks to Karens posting. I'll keep looking for the final resting place of Layfette Badgero. Thanks Sue for the McKechnie cemetery lookup. Vivian thanks for the additional Lumley families... My angel sent these Gamey's privately so I'll include them here for the Archives..Thank you later Ida Here are some GAMEY's from the Wesleyan Methodist Baptismal Register, Grey County 1846-1910. Ref # 1402 pg. 68 GAMEY, Mary, b. in Osprey Twp. on Jan. 24, 1857, bap. on Oct. 04, 1857, in Osprey Twp. Father - Joseph GAMEY , Mother - Jane GAMEY, Residence Osprey Twp., Minister - Thos. HANNA. Ref # 1407 pg. 69, GAMEY, Eliza, b. in Osprey Twp. on Sept. 14, 1857, bap. on May 14, 1858, in Osprey Twp., Father Thomas GAMEY, Mother R. GAMEY, Residence Osprey Twp, minister, Thos HANNA. Ref. # 1424 pg. 69 GAMES, Thomas Albert, b. in Osprey Twp. on Oct. 05, 1864, bap. on May 7, 1867 Osprey Twp., Father Thos. GAMEY, Mother Rachel GAMEY, Residence Osprey Twp. Minister C. HAMILTON Ref. # 1425 pg. 70 GAMEY, Rachel Agnes, b. in Osprey Twp., on Feb. 23, 1867, bap. in Osprey Twp. May 7, 1867, Father Thomas GAMEY, Mother Rachel GAMEY, Residence Osprey Twp. Minister C. HAMILTON Ref # 1427 pg. 70 GAMEY, Isabella, b. in Osprey Twp., on Apr 1866 ( no day), bap. in Osprey Twp. Mar. 26, 1867, Father Josiah GAMEY, mother Cath'e, Residence Osprey Twp. Minister C. HAMILTON. Ref. # 1435 pg. 70 GAMEY, Albert Edward, b. in Osprey Twp. on Aug. 22, 1864, bap. in Osprey Twp. Apr. 14, 1865, Father Josiah GAMEY, Mother Cath'e GAMEY, Residence Osprey Twp. Minister D. E. BROWNELL. Ref. # 1436 pg. 70 GAMEY, Francis, b. in Osprey Twp. on Sept. 14, 1864, bap. in Osprey Twp. on Apr. 14, 1865, Father Josiah GAMEY, Mother Cath'e GAMEY, Residence Osprey Twp., Minister D. E. BROWNELL. Ref # 2130 pg. 104 GAMEY, Edward, b. in Osprey Twp. on Feb. 17, 1861, bap, in Osprey Twp on Oct. 15, 1861, Father Joseph GAMEY, Mother Jane GAMEY, Residence Osprey Twp. Minister Isaac BAKER Ref. # 2131 pg. 104 GAMEY, Marg't Jane, b. in Osprey Twp. on Sept. 05, 1860, bap. in Osprey twp. on Oct. 15, 1861, Father Joseph GAMEY, Mother Cath'e GAMEY, Residence Osprey Twp. Minister Isaac BAKER. Ref. # 2158 pg. 105 GAMEY, Joseph Wesley, b. in Osprey Twp. on Feb. 28, 1862, bap. in Osprey Twp. on Apr. 26, 1863, Father Thos. GAMEY, Mother Rachel GAMEY, Residence Osprey Twp. Minister Isaac BAKER. Ref. # 2175 pg. 106 GAMEY, Thos, b. in Osprey Twp. on Apr. 04, 1859, bap. in Osprey Twp. on July 04, 1871, Father John GAMEY, Mother Sarah GAMEY, Residence Osprey Twp. Minister W. TUCKER. Ref. # 2176 pg. 106 GAMEY, Margaret, b. in Osprey Twp. on Oct. 04, 1860, bap. in Osprey Twp. on July 04, 1871, Father John GAMEY, Mother Sarah GAMEY, Residence Osprey Twp. Minister W. TUCKER Ref. # 2177 pg. 106 GAMEY, Elizabeth, b. in Osprey Twp. on June 24, 1862, bap. in Osprey Twp on July 04, 1871, Father John GAMEY, Mother Sarah GAMEY, Residence Osprey Twp. Minister W. TUCKER Ref. # 2178 pg. 106 GAMEY, John, b. in Osprey Twp., on June 25, 1870, bap. in Osprey Twp. on July 04, 1871, Father John GAMEY, Mother Sarah GAMEY, Residence Osprey Twp., Minister W. TUCKER. Karen Haffermehl wrote: > Lot 1, Con 5 > Gamey, John, 27 > Ellen, 24 > David Parliament, servant, 12 I believe David & Ethel below are the children of Jacob Parliment & Mary Gamey > Lot 1 and 2, Con 7 > Gamey, Joseph, 39 > Carrie, 37 > Stanley, 11 > Clifford, 7 > Edith, less than 1 > Ethel Parliament, domestic, 14

    12/13/2002 02:19:51
    1. Some miscellaneous deaths
    2. Darryl
    3. MS935, reel 30, page 466, Proton, Schedule C-deaths 7. Name and surname of deceased: John Boecknen When died: November 14, 1882 Sex-male/female: m Age: 7 years Rank or profession: farmer’s son Where born: Proton Certified cause of death: Diptheria 3 days Name of physician: J.F. Halsted M.D. Informant: J.F. Halsted M.D., Cedanoitle When registered: Nov. 15, 1882 Religion: Registrar: James Cavauagh 8. Name and surname of deceased: Robert Stewart When died: November 29, 1882 Sex-male/female: m Age: no age given Rank or profession: Farmer Where born: lived in Proton Certified cause of death: General debility, 1 month Name of physician: Byron E. Ghent M.D. Informant: Byron E. Ghent M.D., Priceville When registered: December 1, 1882 Religion: none given Registrar: James Cavauagh 9. Name and surname of deceased: Mary McLean When died: November 28, 1882 Sex-male/female: f Age: 52 years Rank or profession: a farmer’s wife Where born: Scotland Certified cause of death: Dropsy, 8 months Name of physician: Doctor Griffin Informant: John Morrison, Preby. Min. When registered: December 8th 1882 Religion: Presbyterian Registrar: James Cavauagh 10. Name and surname of deceased: Carby Johnson When died: November 9, 1882 Sex-male/female: m Age: 72 years 3 months Rank or profession: farmer Where born: England Certified cause of death: Dropsy 7 months Name of physician: Dr. M' William, Dunalk Informant: George Johnson When registered: Proton Religion: Church of England Registrar: James Cavauagh 11. Name and surname of deceased: James Carson When died: December 7th 1882 Sex-male/female: m Age: 95 years Rank or profession: Farmer Where born: Co. Monaghan, Ireland Certified cause of death: old age Name of physician: Informant: Thos. J. Snowdon, Meth. Min. Dunalk When registered: Religion: Methodist Registrar: James Cavauagh MS935, reel 34, page 437, Glenelg, Schedule C-deaths 1. Name and surname of deceased: Mary Campbell When died: 11th September 1883 Sex-male/female: female Age: 75 years Rank or profession: Tailor’s widow Where born: Isle of Sky, Scotland Certified cause of death: Paralysis, 3 years Name of physician: none Informant: Donald Campbell, farmer, Glenelg When registered: 5th October 1883 Religion: Presbyterian Registrar: Pat? 2. Name and surname of deceased: Janet McKechnie When died: 5th October 1883 Sex-male/female: female Age: 80 years Rank or profession: farmer’s wife Where born: Argyle, Scotland Certified cause of death: Paralysis, six years Name of physician: none Informant: Donald McKechnie, farmer, Glenelg When registered: 16th October 1883 Religion: Presbyterian Registrar: Pat? 3. Name and surname of deceased: Samuel McDermit When died: 10th October 1883 Sex-male/female: male Age: 67 years Rank or profession: farmer Where born: Scotland Certified cause of death: old age, 6 months Name of physician: Dr. Gun Informant: John McDermit, farmer, Glenelg When registered: 2nd November 1883 Religion: Baptist Registrar: Pat? 4. Name and surname of deceased: Margaret Butter When died: 18th October 1883 Sex-male/female: female Age: 36 years Rank or profession: merchant’s wife Where born: Dumfrishire, Scotland Certified cause of death: consumption two years Name of physician: Dr. Barnhart Informant: Archibald Butter, merchant, Durham When registered: 10th November 1883 Religion: Presbyterian Registrar: Pat? 5. Name and surname of deceased: Flora McTaggart When died: 4th November 1883 Sex-male/female: female Age: 56 years Rank or profession: farmer’s wife Where born: Mull, Scotland Certified cause of death: Congestion of lungs Name of physician: Dr. Sproale Informant: D. McLeod, Minister, Priceville When registered: 10th November 1883 Religion: Presbyterian Registrar: Pat? MS935, reel 30, page 391, Artemesia, Schedule C-deaths 13. Name and surname of deceased: Margaret Grace Jameson When died: 25 March 1882 Sex-male/female: female Age: two months Rank or profession: Where born: Canada Certified cause of death: not known, 2 hours Name of physician: none Informant: Thos. Grandy Eufemis When registered: May 2nd 1882 Religion: Registrar: W. J. Bellamy 14. Name and surname of deceased: Robert Brown When died: March 26th 1882 Sex-male/female: male Age: 40 or 41 as near as known Rank or profession: farmer Where born: Ireland Certified cause of death: Phthisis?, 12 months Name of physician: Dr. Christie & Gukie Informant: Andrew Wilson, Markdale When registered: May 2nd 1882 Religion: Presbyterian Registrar: W. J. Bellamy 15. Name and surname of deceased: Charles Lecois Bellamy When died: March 17th 1882 Sex-male/female: male Age: 2 years 5 months Rank or profession: farmer’s child Where born: Canada Certified cause of death: Scarlet fever 2 weeks Name of physician: Dr. Christie Informant: C.W. Bellamy, Artemesia When registered: May 2nd 1882 Religion: Methodist Registrar: W. J. Bellamy 16. Name and surname of deceased: Neil McKinnon When died: March 28th 1882 Sex-male/female: male Age: 9 months Rank or profession: Where born: Canada Certified cause of death: Inflammatory croupe Name of physician: Dr. Bennett Informant: D. McLeod, Priceville When registered: May 22nd 1882 Religion: Registrar: W. J. Bellamy 17. Name and surname of deceased: Janet McArthur When died: March 18th 1882 Sex-male/female: female Age: 67 years Rank or profession: farmer’s wife Where born: Scotland Certified cause of death: natural decay one week Name of physician: Dr. Ghent Informant: D. McLeod, Priceville When registered: May 2nd 1882 Religion: Presbyterian Registrar W. J. Bellamy 18. Name and surname of deceased: Neil McLean When died: March 4th 1882 Sex-male/female: male Age: 70 years Rank or profession: farmer Where born: Scotland Certified cause of death: old age Name of physician: none mentioned Informant: D. McLeod, Priceville When registered: May 2nd 1882 Religion: Presbyterian Registrar W. J. Bellamy --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 06/12/02

    12/12/2002 11:24:52
    1. Re: 1891/1901 census GAMEY/GARVEY Osprey lookup please
    2. Hi Ida, Look at the OCFA (Ontario Cemetery Finding Aid) in the internet. I just did three searches ,using only the surname field, for Badgerow, Gamey, Lumely and left the given name blank. I also checked soundex search each time. It came up with L. Badgerow and Mary (Lumely) Badgerow both buried in McKechnie's Cemetery, Glenelg Twp., Grey Co., Reference BG-G-072. I bet the L. stands for Lafayette. Sarah (Gamey) Badjerow is buried in the Maxwell Old Pioneer Cemetery. Osprey Twp., Grey Co., Reference BG-G-124. There is also a L. Badjerow buried in that cemetery. Mary Ellen Lumley (Lumely) was Lafayette Badgerow's second wife. Richard W.Thomas Royal Oak,Michigan USA Thomas,Badgerow,Ferrier,Stock,Bevins,Ferguson Czokoly,Vincze,Kovach,Hess,Younglove [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ida & Merle King" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 10:40 AM Subject: Re: 1891/1901 census GAMEY/GARVEY Osprey lookup please > Hi Richard > > Thanks for the additional Badgerow marriage. > > I'm still hoping someone with easy access to the 1891/1901 census will > be able to locate the Gamey family in Osprey.... > later > Ida > > [email protected] wrote: > > > > Hi Lynn & Ida, > > > Before they were married, they were witnesses for a marriage between > > William Minor Stock and Mary Kezia Badgerow on Dec. 19, 1881 > > in Markdale. > > > > Richard W.Thomas > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

    12/12/2002 06:44:48
    1. Re: 1891/1901 census GAMEY/GARVEY Osprey lookup please
    2. Hi Lynn & Ida, No brother for Sarah Jane Gamey. Don,t know where Lafayette Badgerow is buried. I just looked at the marriage schedule for Lafayette and Sarah. Lafayette Badgerow 23 yrs Residence Artemesia Birth Ontario Farmer Parents Samuel & Sarah Badgerow Sarah J. Gamey 18 yrs (Gamely must have come from a different source) Residence Osprey Birth Ontario Parents John & Emily Gamey Witnesses Thomas Gamey of Osprey Emily Badgerow of Artemesia Lafayette & Sarah were married Feb. 1, 1882 in Flesherton They were both Methodist Before they were married, they were witnesses for a marriage between William Minor Stock and Mary Kezia Badgerow on Dec. 19, 1881 in Markdale. Richard W.Thomas Royal Oak,Michigan USA Thomas,Badgerow,Ferrier,Stock,Bevins,Ferguson Czokoly,Vincze,Kovach,Hess,Younglove [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn & John Aziz" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 4:20 PM Subject: Re: 1891/1901 census GAMEY/GARVEY Osprey lookup please > Did Sarah Jane have a brother? I have am looking for a John Wesley GAMEY m. > Caroline Clinton. > > From cold but no snow yet Toronto. > > Lynn Aziz > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]m> > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 9:02 PM > Subject: Re: 1891/1901 census GAMEY/GARVEY Osprey lookup please > > > > Hi Ida, > > > > I have Lafayette Badgerow married Sarah Jane Gamely on Feb. 1, 1882. > > His parents were Samuel & Sarah Badgerow. > > Her parents were John & Emily Gamely. > > Lafayette 1858-1947. > > Sarah 1864-1886. > > Everything occurred in Artemesia Twp., Grey Co., Ontario, Canada. > > > > Richard W.Thomas > > Royal Oak,Michigan USA > > Thomas,Badgerow,Ferrier,Stock,Bevins,Ferguson > > Czokoly,Vincze,Kovach,Hess,Younglove > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ida & Merle King" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 11:20 AM > > Subject: 1891/1901 census GAMEY/GARVEY Osprey lookup please > > > > > > > Hi All > > > > > > If anyone has easy access to 1891 or 1901 Osprey could they please check > > > for this GARVEY/GAMEY family.. Pam has located a Sarah Jane GAMEY wife > > > of Lay BADGEROW in the Old Pioneer cemetery at Maxwell Osprey. She was > > > the daughter of John GAMEY and Sarah MEY, there ages all seems to fit > > > nicely with the GARVEY family below in 1881 census. In the Mt Zion > > > cemetery Lot 183 Con 3 ETSR Artemesia I found a Mary GAMEY wife of Jacob > > > PARLIAMENT. (My interest is the PARLIAMENT connection) > > > > > > There is no listings in 1881 for John GAMEY > > > > > > 1881 Census Place: Osprey, Grey East, Ontario, Canada > > > Source: FHL Film 1375897 NAC C-13261 Dist 155 SubDist D Div 3 Page > > > 9 Family 43 > > > Sex Marr Age Origin Birthplace > > > John GARVEY M M 60 Irish Ireland > > > Occ: Farmer Religion: Methodist Canada > > > Sarah GARVEY F M 40 Irish Ireland > > > Religion: Methodist Canada > > > Thomas GARVEY M 22 Irish Ontario > > > Occ: Farmer Son Religion: Methodist Canada > > > Elizabeth GARVEY F 18 Irish Ontario > > > Religion: Methodist Canada > > > Mary GARVEY F 20 Irish Ontario > > > Religion: Methodist Canada > > > Sarah GARVEY F 16 Irish Ontario > > > Religion: Methodist Canada > > > George GARVEY M 13 Irish Ontario > > > Religion: Methodist Canada > > > John GARVEY M 11 Irish Ontario > > > Religion: Methodist Canada > > > Ann GARVEY F 9 Irish Ontario > > > Religion: Methodist Canada > > > Josiah GARVEY M 6 Irish Ontario > > > Religion: Methodist Canada > > > > > > Thanks Ida > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ______________________________ > >

    12/11/2002 04:53:47