Once again I need help from the list. I have finally found my Grandfathers father but again another brick wall. I am looking for information on WILLIAM CHARLES SMITH b. ? He was married to ELIZABETH STEPHENSON b.? They were farming in St Vincent in 1892 when my grandfather was born (William John Smith) I know my Great grandmother Elizabeth Smith lived at 969 6th Ave. West, Owen Sound, in 1917. ( do not know when they changed to numbered streets from named streets) Any help would be appreciated. Thank you. Bryan Edwards

Hi Sue Here's some highlights from the McEachern surname collection from the B&G microfische. Sorry there's no mention of what paper these were taken from. I hope it helps later Ida Sydenham Malcolm McEachern Feb 1903, b 1828 came to Canada 1840, m Isabel McLeod d/o Donald McLeod of Sullivan. Mrs John Cameron of Holland is the only surviving member of his father's family. Ch Donald, Neil & Sarah in Chicago, Maud teacher in Strathaven, Hugh & Jessie at home, pg 16 Chicago Donald McEachern, Jul 21 1936, 54th yr, s/o Malcolm & Isabelle McEachern, bro/o Hugh of Hamilton, Neil of Ohio, Maud of Owen Sound, Jessie & Sarah of Chicago,cousin Mrs James Laird of Owen Sound, H Gilchrist of Alta, Greenwood cem OS, pg 8 Chehanis Wash Neil Alexander McEachern, Aug 29 1941, 66th yr, s/o late Mr & Mrs Malcolm McEachern of Sydenham, bro/o Hugh of Hamilton, Margaret of Owen Sound, Sarah & Jessie both of Chicago, predeceased by Donald in 1936, m ? ch Isabel & Neil, pg 10 Chicago Jessie Anne McEachern, Jun 25 1947, 65th yr, d/o late Malcolm & Isabella McEachern, sis/o Margaret of Owen Sound, Sarah in Chicago, Hugh in Hamilton, b nr Massey, Christian Scientist, Greenwood cem OS, pg 3 x 2 pg 6 Hamilton Sarah McEachern, Jun 11 1951, d/o Malcolm McEachern & Isabella McLeod, sis/o Margaret of Owen Sound & Hugh P of Hamilton, Greenwood cem Owen Sound pg 7 Owen Sound Margaret McEachern, Oct 16 1963, d/o Malcolm McEachern & Isabella McLeod, sis/o Hugh, predeceased by 2 bro & 2 sis, b Massey, Christian Scientist, Greenwood cem pg 3 pg 7

If anyone has any information on the following McLEODs named on gravestones at Greenwood Cemetery, Owen Sound, ON, I'd be pleased to hear from you. Cheerio Sue Visser PS: Thanks to Amy Grappin for posting the original list. 12) Donald McLEOD 1849-1921 wife Isabelle McKerroll Donald a. 1887-1939 Norman 1885-1941 14)Malcolm McEachern 1828-1903 wife Isabelle McLEOD 1843-1923 Donald 1872-1936 Jessie Ann 1882-1947 Sara E. 1873-1951 Margaret I. 1879-1963 17)Alexander McKerroll 3-14-1910 age 57 wife Jessie McLEOD 1868-1937 Alice 1901-1919 Euphemia McTaggert 1891-1941 Alice M. McLEOD 1881-1959 Isabella 1849-1919 husb. Donald McLeod 1849-1921 child Donald A. 1887-1939 Norman 1885-1941 Etta Euphemia 1903-1983 18)Capt Neil Campbell 1853-1918 wife Catherine McLEOD 1869-1937 Neil McPherson 1903-1960 Catherine E. 1895-1962 m. Neil Munro Alexander Pringle 1881-1972 hus. to Norma Evelyn 1891-1976 27)Archibald McCallum 1837-1915 wife Barbara McLEOD 1843-1933 Dougald F. 1876-1946 Hillard L. 1879-1900 Ernest R. 1884-1937 Charley R. 1882-1960 wife Rhoda McAllister 1889-1975 30)Peter McLEOD 1825-1896 wife Margaret McLean 1836-1901

Here is one suggestion -- use Access To Information. There is a form on the census pages at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/1911ati.htm The form available there is for general purpose -- we have been sending in ATIs to get the 1911 census released. The cost is only $5.00, and if not the proper one, you will be told. There is also a Census Information office, but the cost is total $48.15 -- I have that address -- but suggest the ATI Muriel M. Davidson [email protected] Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eva Mitchell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 8:00 PM Subject: [Grey Co.] Former Sullivan Twp. resident > Would someone be able to tell me how I might access the records of the > Hospital for the Insane in London, Ontario? I am looking for > information on a former resident of Sullivan Twp. who was declared "a > lunatic and an inmate of the Hospital for the Insane at London" some > time before August of 1912. > > Eva > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.488 / Virus Database: 287 - Release Date: 6/5/03

Thanks to all who offered advice on Dornch area newspapers. All replies pointed towards the Durham paper, so I will check it out. Thanks, Kim

Does anyone have the monument inscritions for the Thornbury-Clarksburg Union Cemetery? I am looking for Artemesia Gibson and John Camack and any of their children. Any info on their descendants would be appreciated, Artemesia gibson was born in 1852 to John and Ann gibson in Reach Township. John Camack was born to John Camack and Ann (maiden name unknown) in 1851. thanks elizabeth gibson _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

Connie I'm not the one going to the Archives - Sandy is! e-mail: [email protected] Lynne -----Original Message----- From: Connie Dugger [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 8:13 PM To: Lynne Frizzell Subject: Re: [Grey Co.] Free Land Grant Testimonials Dear Lynne, When you are there, if it would not be too much bother, could you please check to see if there are testimonials for Conrad and/or Charles/Karl Habermehl? Thank you, Connie Dugger Lynne Frizzell wrote: > Hi Sandy > > I've been to the Archives - last year when I bought the Farmlanes of > Bentinck book. I would be interested in hearing, after your visit, what > sort of information you found in the testimonials. > > Lynne > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sandy Zamora [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 6:22 PM > To: Lynne Frizzell > Subject: Re: [Grey Co.] Free Land Grant Testimonials > > > Lynne > > I have received a few replies. I have been told by the author of the > Bentinck Book who I now have become friends, with he and his family, > that these testimonials are at the Grey County Archieves in Glenelg > Township. I am going up there in just over two weeks from now. It is on > the Baptist Church Road on the north side of highway 4, about half way > to Durham from Priceville. > > Sandy > > > > Lynne Frizzell wrote: > >>Hi Sandy >> >>Did you get any replies regarding your request? These testimonials sound >>like they could be very helpful - it would be interesting to know more >> > about > >>them. ( I wish I had known about the existence of these testimonials last >>week - I just returned from a trip east and was in the Hanover/Durham area >>searching for information on my McMahons - might have found out more about >>William!) >> >>Lynne >>Calgary >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Sandy Zamora [mailto:[email protected]] >>Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 10:07 AM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: [Grey Co.] Free Land Grant Testimonials >> >>Good Day Again >> >> In the near future I am going to visit the Grey County Archieves, in >>search of testimonials relating to the free land grants, regarding my >>pioneer ancestors the McCormicks. Our McCormicks lived around the Rocky >>Community area, just north of the town of Durham. >> >> I have read that in these types of testimonials, that family members, >>friends, and the settlers themselves who were acquiring the free land >>grants, wrote or spoke about the person getting the free land grant.If >>someone could not write, the information I presume would be written down >>for that person, in support of the person acquiring the free land grant. >> >> I would suspect that these testimonials could be huge in meaning, with >>regards to potential information regarding other family member's names, >>and information about the person acquiring the free land grant. >> >> Is there anything that anyone could tell me that would be helpful >>about searching for these testimonials, or other potential information >>about them? >> >>Sandy >> >>============================== >>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >> > go > >>to: >>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Hi Sandy I've been to the Archives - last year when I bought the Farmlanes of Bentinck book. I would be interested in hearing, after your visit, what sort of information you found in the testimonials. Lynne -----Original Message----- From: Sandy Zamora [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 6:22 PM To: Lynne Frizzell Subject: Re: [Grey Co.] Free Land Grant Testimonials Lynne I have received a few replies. I have been told by the author of the Bentinck Book who I now have become friends, with he and his family, that these testimonials are at the Grey County Archieves in Glenelg Township. I am going up there in just over two weeks from now. It is on the Baptist Church Road on the north side of highway 4, about half way to Durham from Priceville. Sandy Lynne Frizzell wrote: > > Hi Sandy > > Did you get any replies regarding your request? These testimonials sound > like they could be very helpful - it would be interesting to know more about > them. ( I wish I had known about the existence of these testimonials last > week - I just returned from a trip east and was in the Hanover/Durham area > searching for information on my McMahons - might have found out more about > William!) > > Lynne > Calgary > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sandy Zamora [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 10:07 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Grey Co.] Free Land Grant Testimonials > > Good Day Again > > In the near future I am going to visit the Grey County Archieves, in > search of testimonials relating to the free land grants, regarding my > pioneer ancestors the McCormicks. Our McCormicks lived around the Rocky > Community area, just north of the town of Durham. > > I have read that in these types of testimonials, that family members, > friends, and the settlers themselves who were acquiring the free land > grants, wrote or spoke about the person getting the free land grant.If > someone could not write, the information I presume would be written down > for that person, in support of the person acquiring the free land grant. > > I would suspect that these testimonials could be huge in meaning, with > regards to potential information regarding other family member's names, > and information about the person acquiring the free land grant. > > Is there anything that anyone could tell me that would be helpful > about searching for these testimonials, or other potential information > about them? > > Sandy > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Would someone be able to tell me how I might access the records of the Hospital for the Insane in London, Ontario? I am looking for information on a former resident of Sullivan Twp. who was declared "a lunatic and an inmate of the Hospital for the Insane at London" some time before August of 1912. Eva

It has been awhile since I last asked for help. I thought I would try again. I am looking for the family of Robert Thompson, b. 1823 in Ireland and died in 1881. Wife Catherine Ann Baldwin, b. 1836 in Ontario and died 1881. They died within four months of each other. They lived on Lot 7, Concession 8 in Derby, Grey County, which they bought on October 30, 1867 from William C. Scier (?). They sold some of their land in 1869 and sold out to Arthur Torrie in 1877. I connot find where they went or where they are buried. Robert is listed as Church of England and Catherine as W. Methodist. The children are mixed, but the last three are listed as Anglican. I suspected they attended St. James Church in Derby, but it closed in 1926 and I don't know where the church records are. Is there a cemetery? They left the following children: James:b. 1852, Robert William:b. 1854, Charles W. and John W.:b. 1856, Margaret M.:b.1858, Sarah Jane:b. 1860, Howard:b. 1864, Nelson:b. 1865, Albert Edward:b. 1867, Mary Jane: b. 1869, Martha:b. 1872 Jeanette:b. 1875. I cannot find anything about the children or where the parents moved or where they are buried, except for Albert Edward, who is my grandfather. Any help, directions, etc. would certainly be appreciated. Gerri Nordell Valley, NE USA

Elizabeth: Camack Annie Luella, daughter of John and Artemesia Camack died Jan. 27, 1885 age 1 yr 8 mos Camack John Sr., died March 29, 1885, age 87 years. His wife Annie Burns, died July 25, 1889, age 74 years. John Camack 1851-1943 his wife Artemesia Gibson, died Dec. 24, 1920 age 68 yrs. annie Luella, Jan. 27, 1885 age 1 year, Edith A. Camack 1887-1960 Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: elizabeth gibson <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 3:54 PM Subject: [Grey Co.] Thornbury-Clarksburg Union Cemetery > Does anyone have the monument inscritions for the Thornbury-Clarksburg Union > Cemetery? I am looking for Artemesia Gibson and John Camack and any of their > children. > Any info on their descendants would be appreciated, Artemesia gibson was > born in 1852 to John and Ann gibson in Reach Township. John Camack was born > to John Camack and Ann (maiden name unknown) in 1851. > thanks > elizabeth gibson > > _________________________________________________________________ > Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

The Durham Chronicle would be one to check. Julie McLeod ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kimberly" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:08 PM Subject: [Grey Co.] Newspaper in Dornoch area > Hello, > If I were to search for newspaper items about my family who resided in the Dornoch area of Grey County between 1851 and 1925, what newspaper would I search? I'm interested in the usual obituaries, etc, but any other newspaper items that may be of interest for the Dornoch area. Any help on this would be much appreciated, > Kim > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Good morning list members: I am looking for ideas that will or have worked to get people to 1. become members of our local historical group 2. plan an event that has worked for other historical or genealogy groups in the past. Your ideas or comments are most welcomed Sheila

Hello Lynne and Sandy, I would also be very interested in information about "Free Land Grant Testimonials". Where are they filed? How does one access the information? I hope that any responses will be sent to the list. Cheers, Judy, Washington ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynne Frizzell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 9:13 PM Subject: RE: [Grey Co.] Free Land Grant Testimonials > Hi Sandy > > Did you get any replies regarding your request? These testimonials sound > like they could be very helpful - it would be interesting to know more about > them. ( I wish I had known about the existence of these testimonials last > week - I just returned from a trip east and was in the Hanover/Durham area > searching for information on my McMahons - might have found out more about > William!) > > Lynne > Calgary > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sandy Zamora [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 10:07 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Grey Co.] Free Land Grant Testimonials > > > Good Day Again > > > In the near future I am going to visit the Grey County Archieves, in > search of testimonials relating to the free land grants, regarding my > pioneer ancestors the McCormicks. Our McCormicks lived around the Rocky > Community area, just north of the town of Durham. > > I have read that in these types of testimonials, that family members, > friends, and the settlers themselves who were acquiring the free land > grants, wrote or spoke about the person getting the free land grant.If > someone could not write, the information I presume would be written down > for that person, in support of the person acquiring the free land grant. > > I would suspect that these testimonials could be huge in meaning, with > regards to potential information regarding other family member's names, > and information about the person acquiring the free land grant. > > Is there anything that anyone could tell me that would be helpful > about searching for these testimonials, or other potential information > about them? > > Sandy > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ______________________________

To all who desire release of the 1911 and later census records:- To date, Bill S-13 "to amend the Privacy Act", has travelled through the Senate and has had First Reading in the House of Commons. So far, Second Reading has been announced, but work has been done on other government bills, for example, Bill C-24 today -- and possibly tomorrow. Many researchers are filling out Access To Information forms, with full details available at this site:- http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/1911ati.htm A legal action has also been posted for the 1911 census. After Bill S-13 has had Second Reading, it is sent to the Committee stage, with Ontario having five appointees to the main committee -- plus 93 others! Cheryl Gallant [email protected] Brian Masse [email protected] / [email protected] Brent St.Denis [email protected] Paddy Torsney [email protected] Joseph Volpe [email protected] Check and see if above will ensure Bill S-13 has NO restrictions, write to them, ask for their support http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Score3.htm#ONT Genealogy societies are requested to send ATIs and letters. Muriel M. Davidson [email protected] Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.487 / Virus Database: 286 - Release Date: 6/1/03

Hi Sandy Did you get any replies regarding your request? These testimonials sound like they could be very helpful - it would be interesting to know more about them. ( I wish I had known about the existence of these testimonials last week - I just returned from a trip east and was in the Hanover/Durham area searching for information on my McMahons - might have found out more about William!) Lynne Calgary -----Original Message----- From: Sandy Zamora [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 10:07 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [Grey Co.] Free Land Grant Testimonials Good Day Again In the near future I am going to visit the Grey County Archieves, in search of testimonials relating to the free land grants, regarding my pioneer ancestors the McCormicks. Our McCormicks lived around the Rocky Community area, just north of the town of Durham. I have read that in these types of testimonials, that family members, friends, and the settlers themselves who were acquiring the free land grants, wrote or spoke about the person getting the free land grant.If someone could not write, the information I presume would be written down for that person, in support of the person acquiring the free land grant. I would suspect that these testimonials could be huge in meaning, with regards to potential information regarding other family member's names, and information about the person acquiring the free land grant. Is there anything that anyone could tell me that would be helpful about searching for these testimonials, or other potential information about them? Sandy ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hello, If I were to search for newspaper items about my family who resided in the Dornoch area of Grey County between 1851 and 1925, what newspaper would I search? I'm interested in the usual obituaries, etc, but any other newspaper items that may be of interest for the Dornoch area. Any help on this would be much appreciated, Kim

In an ongoing attempt to locate the burial site of ALEXANDER McLEOD (died Derby Twp. Grey Co. February 13, 1895) and his wife MARY McINNIS McLEOD (died Sullivan Twp., Grey Co. September 13, 1898) I have checked maps of that time and have located two churches with what appear to be adjoining cemeteries. The first is located at Con. 8 Lot 1 Derby Twp. (Keady P.O.) and the second at Con. 8 Lot 10, Sullivan Twp. (just to the north of Desboro). Could someone advise me what the names of these churches were, did they have a cemetery adjoining, and do they still exist. I have come to a brick wall in trying to locate a burial place for Alexander and Mary and any help would be greatly appreciated. Eva

Dear List Members: Due to circumstances beyond my control I have not been able to have on line tombstones photos covering most of the cemeteries in the following township: Carrick, Howick, Minto and Normanby. Not only has my web site been off line since November of last year, but also I stupidly deleted more than 250 photos with the understanding the website was being revamp and would be working shortly. I first wish to apologized to all the people who have patiently waited or wrote me about the website being down. I have learned a valuable lesson. In a feeble attempt to get the website up and running again on my own, I have listed the appropriate web addresses. CARRICK ( Bruce county) http://monuments1.tripod.com/vol2carrick/ HOWICK ( Huron county) http://monuments1.tripod.com/vol2howick/ MINTO ( Wellington county) http://monuments1.tripod.com/ NORMANBY ( Grey county) http://monuments1.tripod.com/vol2normanby/ Please be aware that the sites are far from perfect, it is the best I can do under the circumstances. I hope to be able to get them back in shape, but of course this will require time. Again you will find errors, maybe even blank pages. I am truly sorry. Anyone who would like to submit photos to any of the website please contact me : [email protected] Thank-you Sheila

Greetings, I'm looking for any information (or pictures!) anyone may have on the Rob Roy Hotel, once located at Lot 10,Conc. 1, South of the Durham Road. It was built by George Ryan and was also known as "the Stump". Thanks! Darryl Ryan [email protected]