Good grief Marg in Sunny Alberta - what a stack of information, thank you. I'm very interested in anything on the father of course and in particular. His son George Richard Rosehill Greene left Canada apparently in March 1852 and arrived here in January 1853 -which indicates he went somewhere else first or the ship got stuck for months somewhere - the voyage was usually only 3 - 4 months. And strangely I've not been able to pinpoint his exact arrival although I have a few 'suspects' at this time which I will follow up. George's son was Godfrey Benjamin as his grandfather in Canada - ex Ireland, than name seems to have gone down the line. In George's Obit in 1904 in Australia, it tells that one of his sons, the youngest George Ernest, went to Canada "some years ago" (he was born 1879) at the request of father's relatives there. He died apparently 8/12/1940 in British Columbia. I have no idea why a father would send a son back and leave 2 daughters and another son here. Questions questions. However, something similar happened in my own family where three daughters were taken from Aust. to the Massachusetts where my ggf came from, and left there for 10 years, so I guess it was the way. I shall sit down shortly and read your email in full and have a look at your suggestions. I did quickly note a couple of sites I had seen, - www.bytown.net and where I found the marriage you have below - and noticed the father was supposedly dead by 1847. These things help enormously. My research is mainly the son in Australia but I also like to put a bit about the family in particular the parents and their lives and this is my challenge. With another I am researching Americans and Canadians who came to the northeast of Victoria, Australia, in 1850-1870 period for the gold rushes. Both of us have done a lot of research in that area for our own family lines and noticed many names from North America so took up the challenge to find out about them. The list grew and we have 300 at the moment (g). It's fun and very interesting to see their lives develop and very often they came with family or friends from the same area. This of course we are not aware of until we do the next one and so forth. So a lot of weaving goes on. These men on the whole, have not been noted in the history books and that is our goal, to change that, and to record their contribution to the development of a magnificent part of Australia, for they came when there were no towns or facilities at all, only kangaroos koalas gum trees and kookaburras. Pretty brave people. We feel their lives were important and we want to make sure they are noticed. As you can probably see we are pretty passionate about our work. We've been at it now 18 months and have about a year or so to go on it. Ontario was a great source for men who came to this area, as were men from Maine - we have a few dozen of them from one town and it's surrounds. Absolutely amazing stuff. Many returned home, many moved to other parts, and some stayed in the northeast. IN many cases we have found their descendants here in Australia. Thank you so very much Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "marg mcfarlane" <mmcfarla@telusplanet.net> To: <CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 5:03 AM Subject: Re: [Can-Ont-Carleton] GREENE of BYtown - March town > Hi: > > Here is a great website to check out run by Al Lewis: > > http://www.bytown.net/ > > On the main page scroll down until you see a search box. I input Godfrey > rather than Green as I thought there might be too many hits just using > Green(e) but you might want to try to search both ways and also try > "Godfrey Green" in quotes as I have written. > > On this family tree there are Godfrey Benning Greene 1852 - 1911 and > Alicia Laurence Greene ?? - 1898 listed as marrying into the family: > > http://www.bytown.net/street.htm > > At the very bottom of that page is an email link to the lady who submitted > the info. You might want to contact her to see who the parents were, > unless you already know. > > Here are some great news clippings, near the bottom of this page: > > http://www.bytown.net/pinhey.htm > > THE OTTAWA PACKET ---- SATURDAY, AUGUST 28, 1847 > --Marriage - "Pinhey - Greene: On Saturday last at Saint Mary's Church, > Horraceville, March, C. W., Horace Pinhey, Esq., to Kate, eldest daughter > of > the late Godfrey Greene, Esq., of Silvermines, Tipperary, Ireland." > > THE OTTAWA PACKET ---- SATURDAY, JULY 15, 1848 > --Birth - "Pinhey; On Sunday, the 9th instant, Mrs. Horace Pinhey, of a > daughter." > > THE OTTAWA PACKET ---- SATURDAY, June 18, 1853 > -- Birth - "Pinhey; At Horaceville, March, on Sunday last, the wife of > Horace Pinhey, Esq., of a son." > > There is an email address at the bottom of that page to contact the > submitter of the clippings. > > So from those clippings you now know that Godfrey Greene was deceased by > August 28, 1847 and he was from Silvermines, Tipperary, Ireland!! > > Great WW1 items here, Cyril Godfrey Pinhey and Henry Frankel Pinhey, email > contact at the bottom of the page: > > http://www.bytown.net/ww1.htm > > You can also use other search words in the search box. > > There is much on the site about the Pinhey family that the Greene daughter > married into. Here is the marriage of their son: > > 002208-95 (Carleton Co): Godfrey Greene PONKEY(sic), 35, not given, March, > Ottawa, s/o Horace & Catherine married Annie Verona JAMES, 22, Hamilton, > Ottawa, d/o Henry & Martha. Wit: Robert B. HARRIS of Hamilton and Sybella > WEBBE of Ottawa. November 29, 1894 at Ottawa > > There are other great articles on the main page as well and just over half > way down the page it says: > > The Nepean Museum...Has well-organized, computerized Census data going > back to 1842, > plus other resources. > > with a link to that page. Before 1851, most censi in Canada listed by > name only the head of household and then how many males, females, etc, but > no names for them. > > Other links: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~oncarlet/ > > http://www.ogs.on.ca/ > > http://ogs.andornot.com/OldFiles/CemeteryIndex.htm > > http://www.geneofun.on.ca/ontariolocator/search.html > > On the 1881 census is likely the family of Godfrey Benning Greene, perhaps > son of Godfrey Benjamin: > > Godfrey B. GREENE M Male Irish 29 O > <Ontario> Agent Church of England > Olivia Rebecca GREENE M Female English 29 O > <Ontario> Church of England > Godfrey GREENE Male Irish 2 O <Ontario> > Church of England > Ainslie GREENE Male Irish <1 Born: Aug; 8/12 O > <Ontario> Church of England > Elisabeth CODE Female Irish 21 O <Ontario> > Servant Church of England > > Source Information: > Census Place Wellington Ward, Ottawa, Carleton, Ontario > Family History Library Film 1375865 > NA Film Number C-13229 > District 105 > Sub-district A > Division 3 > Page Number 45 > Household Number 232 > > It looks like the name Godfrey was passed down through the family. > The 1901 census is indexed at www.automatedgenealogy.com and I found: > > District: ON OTTAWA (City/Cité) (#100) > Subdistrict: Dalhousie (Ward/Quartier) C-2 Page 19 > Details: Schedule 1 Microfilm T-6488 > > Green Godfrey B M Head M Mar 2 1852 born in > ONTARIO Manager, Anglican > Green Olivia R F Wife M Feb 29 1852 ON > Green Godfrey B M Son S May 24 1879 ON , RY > Clerk, perhaps Rail Yard clerk?? > Green Robert E M Son S Sep 16 1883 ON Bank > Clerk > Green Keneth A M Son S Apr 16 1888 ON > Evens Matilda F Domestic S Dec 16 1879 QUE > Domestic servant > > Some cemeteries are included in an index here, Type in Greene and where it > says County, type in Carleton: > > http://www.islandnet.com/cgi-bin/ms2/jveinot/search > > On the Beechwood cemetery index, Ottawa, Carleton County, are these > entries: > > GREENE, Godfrey Benning died March 28, 1911, interred April 1, 1911, > interment registry number 12635; > GREENE, Godfrey Benning, died March 21, 1938, interred March 23, 1938, > interment number 27301; > GREENE, Godfrey Benning, died October 8, 1970, interred October 13, 1970, > interment number 45312; > GREENE, Olivia R., died November 14, 1924, interred November 15, 1924, > registry number 20519; > GREENE, Aimslie Wilson, died October 18, 1945, interred November 27, 1945, > registry number 27301. > > You can obtain the information contained on the interment registry cards, > name, parents names, etc, by emailing Beechwood cemetery or by snail > mailing them as well. When I ordered some in 2002 they cost $6.42 Cdn > each but you might want to email them and ask what the price is before you > send for them. There are other Greene's buried in this cemetery but I > have no way of knowing if they are related to your family. Website here: > > http://www.beechwoodcemetery.com/contact.htm > > Ontario death registrations are only available to the public up to abt. > 1933 so I can't send you anything past that. Here is Olivia's: > > Ontario, Canada Deaths, 1869-1932 Record > > County of Carleton, Division of Ottawa > Name: Olivia Rebecca Greene > Death Date: Nov 1924 > Death Location: 58 Primrose Avenue, Ottawa, Carleton County > Marital Status: Widow Gender: Female Age: 72 years, 8 months, 17 days > Birth: February 29, 1852 at Ottawa > Birth Location: Ottawa > Parents: Zachariah Wilson, born Canada; and Elizabeth Wilson born March > Twp., Carleton County, Ontario > Name of Informant: Ainslie Wilson Greene, son 58 Primrose Avenue, Ottawa > Burial: Beechwood Cemetery, November 15, 1924 > Undertaker: G. H. Rogers Co., Ottawa > Physician: J. H. Laidlaw, Ottawa > Cause of Death: Cerebral haemorrhage and Arterio Sclerosis > Registration number 010124 > > I did not find the Godfrey Benning Greene who died in March, 1911 online > but the kind folks at your nearest LDS family history centre could order > in the appropriate death index film first, find the registration number > from it, and then order in the death registration itself, if found on the > index. > > Or you could order his interment registry card from Beechwood and that > would give his parents names, likely. > > Here is the Ontario marriage index entry for Godfrey's marriage and with > this number you can order the actual marriage registration from the LDS: > > Ontario Marriage Index, 1858-1899 Record > > Name: Godfrey Benning Greene > Marriage Date: 4 Jun 1876 > Marriage Place: Ottawa Registration Number: 001667-76 > > Ontario Vital Record Registrations for births, marriages and deaths are > being transcribed and put online by volunteers, a work in progress and you > can access what has been done so far here: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~onvsr/ > > Here are the births of the children of Godfrey and Olivia: > > Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1907 Record > about Elizabeth Mary Greene > Name: Elizabeth Mary Greene > Date of Birth: 17 Mar 1877 > Gender: Female Birth County: Unknown Father's Name: Godfrey Benning > Greene, clerk, Ottawa > Mother's Name: Olivia Rebecca Wilson > Roll Number: MS929_27 Reg. #003206 > > Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1907 Record > > Ottawa, Carleton County > Name: Godfry Benning Greene > Date of Birth: 24 May 1878 > Gender: Male Father's Name: Godfrey Benning Greene, clerk, Ottawa > Mother's Name: Olivia Rebecca Wilson > Roll Number: MS929_32 Reg. #003864 > > Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1907 Record > > Ottawa, Carleton County > Name: Ainsley Wilson Greene > Date of Birth: 29 Aug 1880 > Gender: Male Birth County: Unknown Father's Name: Godfrey Benning Greene, > bookkeeper, Ottawa > Mother's Name: Olivia Rebecca Wilson > Roll Number: MS929_42 Reg #003610 > > Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1907 Record > > Ottawa, Carleton County > Name: Robert Eric Greene > Date of Birth: 16 Sep 1882 > Gender: Male Birth County: Unknown Father's Name: Godfrey Benning Green, > bookkeeper, Ottawa > Mother's Name: Olivia Rebecca Wilson > Informant of Birth: G. G. Pinhey (see Pinhey entries from above on this > email) > Roll Number: MS929_53 Reg. #005072 > > Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1907 Record > > Ottawa, Carleton County > Name: Kenneth Alfred Greene > Date of Birth: 16 Apr 1888 > Gender: Male Birth County: Unknown Father's Name: Godfrey B Greene, can't > read occupation, Ottawa > Mother's Name: Olivia Rebecca Wilson > Roll Number: MS929_86 Reg. #005045 > > I did not find an online death registration for child Elizabeth Greene but > she wasn't with her parents on the 1881 census above. Her death might not > have been registered. > > Anyway, hope this helps a bit and good luck with your searching. > > Marg in Sunny Alberta > > > > > > > > > > > > Denise wrote: > >>Morning from Australia, >> >>I'm looking for information on Godfrey Benjamin Green(e) born Ireland, >>brought his family to Ontario and I believe March Township around 1840. >>I'm researching his son George who came to Australia in 1850s and would >>love to learn more about his father Godfrey. I believe there was >>something to do with River Steamers, but can't find anything on this. >> >>If anyone can possibly help it would be great thanks - or even a >>descendant or two (g) >> >>regards >>Denise >> >> >>==== CAN-ONT-CARLETON Mailing List ==== >>No more census petitions needed!! The 1911 to 2001 >>Canada census records were passed June 28, 2005! >> >>============================== >>Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >>last 12 months. 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