----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul, Jeff: SEN" <PAULJ@SEN.PARL.GC.CA> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 8:59 AM Subject: RE: [CCC] S-18 debate There are a few issues that I hope I can clear up from the various messages over night. The time that is going to be required for committee and 3rd reading is, unfortunately, infinitely variable. That having been said, I've got some information. It is my understanding that the bill is going to be in front of the Industry committee on Wednesday. I think that they sent out a notice for a general meeting just so all of the committee members blocked off their schedule for that day in case S-18 got through. It is very hard to say how many meetings it will take for the bill to finish. That again is a product of negotiations among all of the parties, and we will have to wait and see. After committee, it must also clear report stage and 3rd reading in the House before it becomes law. It might not do that before the end of the summer, but that is probably alright. I just want to make it clear what is meant by the end of a "session". That has a technical meaning on the Hill. It means the time between throne speeches. It is true that 3rd reading must be completed in this session, or else we lose all of our progress and have to start all over again. So as long as there is no throne speech in the fall, we are in the same session, and the bill could pick up in September where we leave it in June, provided that we don't finish it. I am quite certain that we will continue to make progress between now and the end of June. The only question is how much progress. If there are amendments made to S-18 it certainly does complicate things. The bill comes back to the Senate and would likely be referred to committee for review before going back to the Senate floor for a final vote. I don't think that there really is any appetite for amendments on this one. That is just my feeling. But they will certainly be proposed by the Conservatives and discussed. I don't anticipate that the Liberal Party will support any amendments. I will watch things closely and will keep everyone up to date as things move along. Jeff Paul Policy Advisor Office of the Hon. Lorna Milne Ph: 613-947-9744 Cel: 613-715-2965 -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Leonard [mailto:bleonard@sympatico.ca] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 8:48 PM To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CCC] S-18 debate What I heard is that it passed Second Reading and has been sent to Committee. Hope someone can explain the time period involved in going to, and being in, committee and can it get through and onto 3rd reading before end of this session? Some of the speakers seemed to be for the Bill but wanted amendments made or proposed by the Committee. If there are proposed amendments, does this complicate the process? It was amazing to see how a MP would ask a question of another MP, who would then skate around the answer, but Not answer the question, and then proceed to bring up another matter altogether.