Hi Sylvia, The reason that I was wondering about 1854 as a date of birth is that the only Jane Russell Spence that I have ever been able to find was on familysearch and the christening date was June 6, 1854 in Lylehill, Antrim, Ireland meaning that for this to be my Jane, she would have to be born in 1854 instead of 1855. Older children on the 1881 Census in Dufferin, Marquette, Manitoba were Belinda, William, Walter, and Horace Grove. I was guessing that after that, the rest could have Jane as a mother.1901 in Stanley, Lisgar, Manitoba included Armon, Cora, and Benjamin James. Do you have access to any of the earlier censuses? 1861 and 1871 might be very informative, probably for Ottawa. Allan was born in Billings Bridge in 1876 but Violet was born in Manitoba in 1878. Should find Belinda and possibly other older siblings on the 1871.. Thanks Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sylvia Shannon" <sylviashannon@shaw.ca> To: <CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 8:05 AM Subject: Re: [Can-Ont-Carleton] William Robert Johnston and Jane Russell Spence > Canadian census dates were > 2 Jan 1852 > 14 Jan 1861 > 2 Apr 1871 > 4 Apr 1881 > 6 Apr 1891 > 31 Mar 1901 > 1881 Census was to be done on 4 April so she would not have had her > birthday yet and so could have been born 24 Apr 1855 and list her age as > 27. > Sylvia Shannon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "p&rgordon" <p&rgordon@telus.net> > To: <CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 11:23 PM > Subject: [Can-Ont-Carleton] William Robert Johnston and Jane Russell > Spence > > >> These are my g grandparents. I think, but am not positive, that William >> Robert was born Apr 14, 1831 in Ottawa, Carleton County. . Approx. >> 1875, he married Jane Russell Spence. Jane would be his second wife, as >> on the 1881 Canadian Census there is a Belinda who is 18 yr. old and Jane >> was 27. It is impossible for Jane to be her mother. Can anyone find a >> record of his first marriage? Would there be any way to prove that the >> William born in 1831 is the same William who married Jane. They were >> both Presbyterian. Jane was supposed to be born in Ireland, I don't know >> where, on Apr 24, 1855 but of Scotch descent. I wonder if Jane was >> really born 1854. Jane's emigration was supposed to be in 1862 according >> to the census, so at age 7. Can anyone help me? Can anyone find William >> and Jane's marriage in Ontario? They had a son Allan Forest Johnson, >> born in Billings Bridge (where is that) Ontario, who died in Carman, >> Manitoba. William and Jane moved there later on. There ! >> was a Violet Jane, Gertrude, Cora May, Armon Harrington, and Benjamin >> James born in Manitoba. Armon is my grandfather. I do so want to find >> out more about William and Jane, especially their parents. >> Peggy >> >> >> ==== CAN-ONT-CARLETON Mailing List ==== >> Remember -- no query is ever too small, >> someone may have the answer to add to your >> family group sheets >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> > > > > ==== CAN-ONT-CARLETON Mailing List ==== > Check out other genealogy resources on the net at John Fuller's most > helpful site > http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail.html > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >