Hi: The Ontario place locator: http://www.geneofun.on.ca/ontariolocator/search.html has only this entry: Billing's Bridge, Gloucester Township, Carleton County (Currently Exists) You can search and order copies online of Manitoba births, marriages, deaths up to certain years at this page: http://web2.gov.mb.ca/cca/vital/Query.php but it might be cheaper to go to your local LDS Family History centre and get the reg's through them. I assume this is William's death: LAST NAME: JOHNSTON GIVEN NAMES: WILLIAM R DATE OF DEATH: 11/07/1915 AGE: 84 UNITS OF AGE: YEARS SEX: M PLACE OF DEATH: MORDEN REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1915,210036 You can order that online from the site above if you choose. I assume this is the 1881 census entry to which you refer: William JOHNSTON M Male Irish 49 O <Ontario> Farmer Presbyterian Canada Jane JOHNSTON M Female Irish 27 Ireland Presbyterian Canada Walter JOHNSTON Male Irish 9 O <Ontario> Presbyterian Canada Belinda JOHNSTON Female Irish 18 O <Ontario> Presbyterian Canada William JOHNSTON Male Irish 10 O <Ontario> Going To School Presbyterian Canada Horrice JOHNSTON Male Irish 6 O <Ontario> Going To School Presbyterian Canada Allan JOHNSTON Male Irish 4 O <Ontario> Violet JOHNSTON Female Irish 2 Manitoba Gertude JOHNSTON Female Irish <1 Born: Aug; 8/12 Manitoba Source Information: Census Place Dufferin, Marquette, Manitoba Family History Library Film 1375919 NA Film Number C-13283 District 186 Sub-district H Division 1 Page Number 32 Household Number 186 Go to your local LDS family history centre to find the marriage of William and Jane as well as their death registrations, birth registrations for their kids, etc The death registrations of William and Jane may give their parents' names. Try to find a marriage registration for Belinda and that may contain the name of her mother. Find the birth reg for Walter and that should give mother's name. The kind volunteers will be able to help you with this. To find a centre near you: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHC/frameset_fhc.asp This may be William, Jr. and family on the 1901 Manitoba census at www.automatedgenealogy.com : District: MB LISGAR (#7) Subdistrict: Morden (Village) N-1 Page 15 Image: View the image using a split screen or new window: large medium small MrSid Images are from National Archives Web Site Details: Schedule 1 Microfilm T-6432 Johnston Wm M Head M Sep 27 1862 born ONT, blacksmith, Presbyterian Johnston Fanny F Wife M Apr 28 1866 born ONT Johnston Marshall** M Son S Oct 12 1889 Johnston Nellie F Daughter S Aug 2 1892 Johnston Olive F Daughter S Mar 11 1893 Johnston Tabitha F Daughter S 1895 Johnston Fanny F Daughter S Jun 29 1897 Johnston Florence? F Daughter S Apr 15 1900 All kids born Manitoba. **Birth Index entry gives name as Mary Marshall Johnston, b. October 12, 1890, RM South Dufferin, MB, female, mother Fannie Johnston, reg number 1890-002453. William and Jane and family in 1901: District: MB LISGAR (#7) Subdistrict: Stanley H-4 Page 1 Image: View the image using a split screen or new window: large medium small MrSid Images are from National Archives Web Site Details: Schedule 1 Microfilm T-6432 Johnson William M Head M Apr 14 1831 ONT Prebyterian Farmer Johnson Jane R F Wife M Apr 24 1855 IRE Emig 1862 Johnson Walter M Son S Jun 24 1872 ONT Johnson Alan M Son S Jul 9 1876 ONT Johnson Cora M F Daughter S Jul 6 1882 MAN Johnson Armon H M Son S Apr 8 1885 MAN Johnson James B M Son S Jan 8 1889 MAN Here is James birth reg index entry which you can order the full reg online: http://web2.gov.mb.ca/cca/vital/Query.php LAST NAME: JOHNSTON FIRST NAME: BENJAMIN JAMES DATE OF BIRTH: 01/08/1889 PLACE OF BIRTH: RM S DUFFERIN SEX: M REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1889,004280 MOTHER'S DETAILSMaiden Last Name: SPRUCE Given Names: JANE RUSSELL Here is the family on the 1911 census: 1911 / Manitoba / MacDonald / 27 Township 5 in ranges 3 / page 10 Section 31 - 5 - 2 Johnston Alen Forest M Head M Jul 1876 34 ONT Farmer Johnston Ethel F Wife M Nov 1884 26 ONT Johnston Gertrude L????? F Daughter-in-law S Dec 1905 MAN Johnston Florance Hazel F Daughter-in-law S Nov 1907 MAN Johnston William R. M Father M Apr 1831 80 ONT Retired Johnston Jane Russell F Mother M Apr 1857 57( Age and year of birth given don't match up) born Ireland, emig 1864? (hard to read) Some websites: http://www.rootsweb.com/~oncarlet/ http://www.ogs.on.ca/ http://www.ogsottawa.on.ca/ http://www.bytown.net/ http://www.afhs.ab.ca/data/ontario/censuses.html http://www.ogs.on.ca/ogspi/welcome.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~ongenpro/census/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~births/index.htm http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~maryc/thisisit.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~onvsr/deaths.htm That's about all that I can find online. You really do need to go to the Family History Centre near you and likely you will find a lot more info on your families. Marg in Sunny Alberta > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "p&rgordon" <p&rgordon@telus.net> > To: <CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 11:23 PM > Subject: [Can-Ont-Carleton] William Robert Johnston and Jane Russell > Spence > > >> These are my g grandparents. I think, but am not positive, that >> William Robert was born Apr 14, 1831 in Ottawa, Carleton County. . >> Approx. 1875, he married Jane Russell Spence. Jane would be his >> second wife, as on the 1881 Canadian Census there is a Belinda who is >> 18 yr. old and Jane was 27. It is impossible for Jane to be her >> mother. Can anyone find a record of his first marriage? Would there >> be any way to prove that the William born in 1831 is the same William >> who married Jane. They were both Presbyterian. Jane was supposed to >> be born in Ireland, I don't know where, on Apr 24, 1855 but of Scotch >> descent. I wonder if Jane was really born 1854. Jane's emigration >> was supposed to be in 1862 according to the census, so at age 7. Can >> anyone help me? Can anyone find William and Jane's marriage in >> Ontario? They had a son Allan Forest Johnson, born in Billings >> Bridge (where is that) Ontario, who died in Carman, Manitoba. >> William and Jane moved there later on. There ! >> was a Violet Jane, Gertrude, Cora May, Armon Harrington, and Benjamin >> James born in Manitoba. Armon is my grandfather. I do so want to >> find out more about William and Jane, especially their parents. >> Peggy >> >> >> ==== CAN-ONT-CARLETON Mailing List ==== >> Remember -- no query is ever too small, >> someone may have the answer to add to your >> family group sheets >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. 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