I suggest both messages be printed unless one has a better memory than I have -- re the numbers. Also, Gordon tested the changes using one of his family names - Perrin. This is also another message that might be repeated. Muriel M. Davidson Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 1:46 PM Subject: 1911 Census - Column 18 information Greetings All. I have received a partial answer from Library and Archives Canada to my question regarding the meaning of the numbers written in column 18 of the 1911 Census schedule. I copy below the pertinent portion of the message sent to me by Victoria Gebert. ========================== Good Morning Gordon The positive response to the Census of Canada, 1911 website has kept me very busy for weeks now. I am doing my best to respond and distribute all researchers enquiries and track all requested changes to the database and HTML pages. Please see below for responses to your email dated August 8th, 2005. Question One First of all, regarding column 18 of the 1911 Census. The numbers in column 18 were entered by the individuals preparing the census with coding for mechanical tabulation. We will be adding further information (see draft version below) to our contextual help early in September. ------------------------ 1911 Census - Column 18 For the first time in 1911, information taken for the census was compiled by mechanical appliances. Perforated cards were used to record more accurately information on occupations, using codes. However, it seems that it was not a great success and the system was changed in 1921. The use of this code is reflected in column 18. Genealogists will see numbers separated by hyphens. Example : 6-0-32, 6-6-32 or 6-9-32. The first part of the code refers to one of the general main divisions of occupations or industries as follows : 0 All agricultural 1 Building trades 2 Domestic and personal service 3 Civil and municipal government 4 Fishing and hunting 5 Forestry and lumbering 6 Manufactures - mechanical and textiles 7 Manufactures - Food and clothing 8 Mining 9 Professional 10 Trade and Merchandising 11 Transportation The second part of the code refers to the class of worker 0 Self-employed or owner of the business 6 Receiving wages 9 Employee The third part of the code refers to the trade. The numbers are from the "Index to occupations" based on the results of the Fourth census of Canada (1901). This publication apparently gave a list of the codes; however, we have been unable to locate this publication.. We have determined that number 32 is a blacksmith and 00 a farmer. ----------------------- On my return home near the end of the month I will be visiting the Vancouver Public Library and Simon Fraser University Library in an attempt to find the publication referred to. In the meantime, if any listers are able to determine from personal knowledge what trade their ancestor was, and what the corresponding code number is, please let me know or post to the Canada Census Campaign mail list. Enjoy the Census! Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/ en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Index_f Permission to forward without notice is granted.