Hi Peggy: I imagine you already have this: Ontario Marriage Index, 1858-1899 Record about Hannah Rain Name: Hannah Rain Birth Place: Gloucester Township Residence: Gloucester Township Age: 19 Father Name: James Rain Mother Name: Jane Rain Estimated Birth Year: 1841 Spouse Name: William Johnston Spouse's Age: 26 Spouse Birth Place: Gloucester Township Spouse Residence: Gloucester Township Spouse Estimated Birth Year: 1834 Spouse Father Name: James Johnson Spouse Mother Name : Margaret Johnson Marriage Date: 20 Feb 1860 Marriage Place: Ottawa Marriage County: Carleton Family History Library Microfilm: 1030062 From the child James' birth reg: Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1907 Record about James Henry Raine Name: James Henry Raine Date of Birth: 2 Oct 1870 Gender: Male Birth County: Carleton Father's Name: William Johnston, Ottawa, mechanic and saw filer Mother's Name: Hannah Adevin Raine Physician: Dr. Van Courtlandt Roll Number: MS929_1 Reg/ #019824 Adevin looks to be Hannah's middle name, not a surname. Here is James Raine: Ontario, Canada Deaths, 1869-1932 Record County of Carleton, Division of Ottawa Name: James Raine Death Date: 15 Apr 1902 Death Location: 364 Slater?(Registrar's handwriting is awful!) Ottawa, Carleton Occupation: Ex-policeman Marital Status: Married Religion: Protestant Gender: Male Age: 67 years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Birth Location: Carleton County,Ont Cause: Bright's disease, 2 years Physician & Informant: Dr. James Seager Reg #006819 April 16, 1902 Have you ordered/viewed this 1871 census entry in case it is your William? If his birth year was off by 4 years on the marriage entry, perhaps it was also off by 4 years the other direction on the census: Federal Census of 1871 (Ontario Index) JOHNSON , WILLIAM Sex: Male Age: 44 Birthplace: ONTARIO Religion: Church of England, Anglican Origin: IRISH Occupation: FARMER District: CARLETON ( 078 ) Sub-district: Huntley ( G ) Division: 1 Page: 10 Microfilm reel: C-10,016 Reference: RG31 -- Statistics Canada The Raine's in 1901 and the Robertsons are in the same household: 1901 Census of Canada Page Information District: ON OTTAWA (City/Cité) (#100) Subdistrict: St. George (Ward/Quartier) E-4 Page 6 Images are from National Archives Web Site Details: Schedule 1 Microfilm T-6488 Raine James M Head M Aug 9 1834 ON Presbyterian Bailiff Raine Isabella F Wife M Oct 28 1841 Robertson Ettie F Head W Jan 3 1868 Gov't painting bureau Robertson Mary Gertrude F Daughter S Apr 27 age 10 Can't read birth location Robertson Mary Catherine F Daughter S Dec 7 age 7 same Robertson Mary Lillian F Daughter S Sep 4 age 4 same In 1881: James RAINE M Male English 44 O. <Ontario> Labourer C. Presbyterian Isabela RAINE M Female Scottish 37 O. <Ontario> C. Presbyterian James RAINE Male English 13 O. <Ontario> C. Presbyterian Anna RAINE Female English 11 O. <Ontario> C. Presbyterian John RAINE Male English 8 O. <Ontario> C. Presbyterian Mary RAINE Female English 6 O. <Ontario> C. Presbyterian George RAINE Male English 3 O. <Ontario> C. Presbyterian Source Information: Census Place Wellington Ward, Ottawa, Carleton, Ontario Family History Library Film 1375865 NA Film Number C-13229 District 105 Sub-district A Division 2 Page Number 26 Household Number 127 Marg p&rgordon wrote: >William R. is my g grandfather. He was born April 14, 1831. It is my belief that he first married Hannah Adwen Raine in 1860. His parents on the entry are given as James Johnson and Margaret Johnson (note no "t" in Johnson) , but the age is 26, rather than 30. I think it is him but am not 100% sure. Hannah died on January 28, 1871 and an infant son died in 1871, supposedly at age of 10 days. However, I wonder if the age is 100 days, as I found the birth of James Henry Raine Johnston, Oct 2, 1870, with parents William and Hannah Adevin. I know there was a James and Jane Raine living in the same area at that time, and Hannah who married William Johnston is their daughter, so think that Adevin is incorrect. As for James Henry , if he died 10 days into 1871, he would be 100 days old. > I know for sure that he married my g grandmother Jane Russell Spence, but not sure when. I think it was later in 1871, possibly Sept. as Walter was born June 1872. Can anyone find this second marriage in particular? Or tell me more about the first marriage. One clue might be that I know that William had a daughter Velinda E. (Belinda) from his first marriage so if her birth was found (about 1863), it might have the mother's name. Velinda is with William and Jane Russell on a later census in Manitoba and she is only 9 years younger than Jane so cannot be her biological daughter. Same with a son William born about 1870. >Thanks for any help. >Peggy > > >==== CAN-ONT-CARLETON Mailing List ==== >Remember -- no query is ever too small, >someone may have the answer to add to your >family group sheets > >============================== >View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > >

Hi Marg, Thank you very much for all this. I did have the marriage of Hannah and William, stating parents James and Jane Raine. Therefore, I wonder if the censuses with James could be Hannah's brother rather than father, as the James on the 1881 census is born about 1834 and Hannah about 1841, according to the marriage info. Same with the death info on James. But thank you anyway. It all helps and I do appreciate it. Do you have any means to find out about the birth of Velinda Johnston, about 1863? Parents William and whoever (probably Hannah). Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: "marg mcfarlane" <mmcfarla@telusplanet.net> To: <CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [Can-Ont-Carleton] Marriages of William R. Johnston, born April 14, 1831, Gloucester Twp, > Hi Peggy: > > I imagine you already have this: > > Ontario Marriage Index, 1858-1899 Record > about Hannah Rain > Name: Hannah Rain > Birth Place: Gloucester Township Residence: Gloucester Township Age: 19 > Father Name: James Rain Mother Name: Jane Rain Estimated Birth Year: 1841 > Spouse Name: William Johnston > Spouse's Age: 26 Spouse Birth Place: Gloucester Township Spouse Residence: > Gloucester Township Spouse Estimated Birth Year: 1834 Spouse Father Name: > James Johnson Spouse Mother Name : Margaret Johnson Marriage Date: 20 Feb > 1860 > Marriage Place: Ottawa Marriage County: Carleton Family History Library > Microfilm: 1030062 > From the child James' birth reg: > > Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1907 Record > about James Henry Raine > Name: James Henry Raine > Date of Birth: 2 Oct 1870 > Gender: Male Birth County: Carleton Father's Name: William Johnston, > Ottawa, mechanic and saw filer > Mother's Name: Hannah Adevin Raine > Physician: Dr. Van Courtlandt > Roll Number: MS929_1 Reg/ #019824 > > Adevin looks to be Hannah's middle name, not a surname. > > Here is James Raine: > > Ontario, Canada Deaths, 1869-1932 Record > > County of Carleton, Division of Ottawa > Name: James Raine > Death Date: 15 Apr 1902 > Death Location: 364 Slater?(Registrar's handwriting is awful!) Ottawa, > Carleton Occupation: Ex-policeman > Marital Status: Married Religion: Protestant > Gender: Male Age: 67 years > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Birth Location: Carleton County,Ont > Cause: Bright's disease, 2 years > Physician & Informant: Dr. James Seager > Reg #006819 April 16, 1902 > > Have you ordered/viewed this 1871 census entry in case it is your William? > If his birth year was off by 4 years on the marriage entry, perhaps it was > also off by 4 years the other direction on the census: > > Federal Census of 1871 (Ontario Index) > > JOHNSON , WILLIAM > > Sex: Male > Age: 44 > Birthplace: ONTARIO > Religion: Church of England, Anglican > Origin: IRISH > Occupation: FARMER > District: CARLETON ( 078 ) > Sub-district: Huntley ( G ) > Division: 1 > Page: 10 > Microfilm reel: C-10,016 > Reference: RG31 -- Statistics Canada > > The Raine's in 1901 and the Robertsons are in the same household: > > 1901 Census of Canada Page Information > District: ON OTTAWA (City/Cité) (#100) > Subdistrict: St. George (Ward/Quartier) E-4 Page 6 > Images are from National Archives Web Site > Details: Schedule 1 Microfilm T-6488 > > Raine James M Head M Aug 9 1834 ON > Presbyterian Bailiff > Raine Isabella F Wife M Oct 28 1841 > Robertson Ettie F Head W Jan 3 1868 Gov't > painting bureau > Robertson Mary Gertrude F Daughter S Apr 27 age 10 > Can't read birth location Robertson Mary Catherine F > Daughter S Dec 7 age 7 same Robertson Mary Lillian F > Daughter S Sep 4 age 4 same > > In 1881: > > James RAINE M Male English 44 O. <Ontario> > Labourer C. Presbyterian > Isabela RAINE M Female Scottish 37 O. > <Ontario> C. Presbyterian > James RAINE Male English 13 O. <Ontario> > C. Presbyterian > Anna RAINE Female English 11 O. <Ontario> > C. Presbyterian > John RAINE Male English 8 O. <Ontario> C. > Presbyterian > Mary RAINE Female English 6 O. <Ontario> > C. Presbyterian > George RAINE Male English 3 O. <Ontario> > C. Presbyterian > > Source Information: > Census Place Wellington Ward, Ottawa, Carleton, Ontario > Family History Library Film 1375865 > NA Film Number C-13229 > District 105 > Sub-district A > Division 2 > Page Number 26 > Household Number 127 > > Marg > > p&rgordon wrote: > >>William R. is my g grandfather. He was born April 14, 1831. It is my >>belief that he first married Hannah Adwen Raine in 1860. His parents on >>the entry are given as James Johnson and Margaret Johnson (note no "t" in >>Johnson) , but the age is 26, rather than 30. I think it is him but am >>not 100% sure. Hannah died on January 28, 1871 and an infant son died in >>1871, supposedly at age of 10 days. However, I wonder if the age is 100 >>days, as I found the birth of James Henry Raine Johnston, Oct 2, 1870, >>with parents William and Hannah Adevin. I know there was a James and Jane >>Raine living in the same area at that time, and Hannah who married William >>Johnston is their daughter, so think that Adevin is incorrect. As for >>James Henry , if he died 10 days into 1871, he would be 100 days old. I >>know for sure that he married my g grandmother Jane Russell Spence, but >>not sure when. I think it was later in 1871, possibly Sept. as Walter was >>born June 1872. Can anyone find this second marriage in particular? Or >>tell me more about the first marriage. One clue might be that I know that >>William had a daughter Velinda E. (Belinda) from his first marriage so if >>her birth was found (about 1863), it might have the mother's name. >>Velinda is with William and Jane Russell on a later census in Manitoba and >>she is only 9 years younger than Jane so cannot be her biological >>daughter. Same with a son William born about 1870. >>Thanks for any help. >>Peggy >> >>==== CAN-ONT-CARLETON Mailing List ==== >>Remember -- no query is ever too small, >>someone may have the answer to add to your >>family group sheets >> >>============================== >>View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >>marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >>http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >> >> >> > > > ==== CAN-ONT-CARLETON Mailing List ==== > The 1911 census records are being transcribed! > It is fun -- http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/ > Another way to find family members > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. 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Hi Peggy: No sorry I don't as I can only access Ontario birth reg's from 1869 onward. I did look at all the Johnston and variations Wesleyan Methodist Baptisms online just in case, and did not find her: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wjmartin/wm-index.htm If you can find a death reg somewhere for her that might give you parental and birth info. Marg p&rgordon wrote: > Hi Marg, > Thank you very much for all this. I did have the marriage of Hannah > and William, stating parents James and Jane Raine. Therefore, I > wonder if the censuses with James could be Hannah's brother rather > than father, as the James on the 1881 census is born about 1834 and > Hannah about 1841, according to the marriage info. Same with the death > info on James. But thank you anyway. It all helps and I do appreciate > it. Do you have any means to find out about the birth of Velinda > Johnston, about 1863? Parents William and whoever (probably Hannah). > Peggy > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "marg mcfarlane" > <mmcfarla@telusplanet.net> > To: <CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 8:58 AM > Subject: Re: [Can-Ont-Carleton] Marriages of William R. Johnston, born > April 14, 1831, Gloucester Twp, > > >> Hi Peggy: >> >> I imagine you already have this: >> >> Ontario Marriage Index, 1858-1899 Record >> about Hannah Rain >> Name: Hannah Rain >> Birth Place: Gloucester Township Residence: Gloucester Township Age: >> 19 Father Name: James Rain Mother Name: Jane Rain Estimated Birth >> Year: 1841 Spouse Name: William Johnston >> Spouse's Age: 26 Spouse Birth Place: Gloucester Township Spouse >> Residence: Gloucester Township Spouse Estimated Birth Year: 1834 >> Spouse Father Name: James Johnson Spouse Mother Name : Margaret >> Johnson Marriage Date: 20 Feb 1860 >> Marriage Place: Ottawa Marriage County: Carleton Family History >> Library Microfilm: 1030062 >> From the child James' birth reg: >> >> Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1907 Record >> about James Henry Raine >> Name: James Henry Raine >> Date of Birth: 2 Oct 1870 >> Gender: Male Birth County: Carleton Father's Name: William Johnston, >> Ottawa, mechanic and saw filer >> Mother's Name: Hannah Adevin Raine >> Physician: Dr. Van Courtlandt >> Roll Number: MS929_1 Reg/ #019824 >> >> Adevin looks to be Hannah's middle name, not a surname. >> >> Here is James Raine: >> >> Ontario, Canada Deaths, 1869-1932 Record >> >> County of Carleton, Division of Ottawa >> Name: James Raine >> Death Date: 15 Apr 1902 >> Death Location: 364 Slater?(Registrar's handwriting is awful!) >> Ottawa, Carleton Occupation: Ex-policeman >> Marital Status: Married Religion: Protestant >> Gender: Male Age: 67 years >> Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Birth Location: Carleton County,Ont >> Cause: Bright's disease, 2 years >> Physician & Informant: Dr. James Seager >> Reg #006819 April 16, 1902 >> >> Have you ordered/viewed this 1871 census entry in case it is your >> William? If his birth year was off by 4 years on the marriage entry, >> perhaps it was also off by 4 years the other direction on the census: >> >> Federal Census of 1871 (Ontario Index) >> >> JOHNSON , WILLIAM >> >> Sex: Male >> Age: 44 >> Birthplace: ONTARIO >> Religion: Church of England, Anglican >> Origin: IRISH >> Occupation: FARMER >> District: CARLETON ( 078 ) >> Sub-district: Huntley ( G ) >> Division: 1 >> Page: 10 >> Microfilm reel: C-10,016 >> Reference: RG31 -- Statistics Canada >> >> The Raine's in 1901 and the Robertsons are in the same household: >> >> 1901 Census of Canada Page Information >> District: ON OTTAWA (City/Cité) (#100) >> Subdistrict: St. George (Ward/Quartier) E-4 Page 6 >> Images are from National Archives Web Site >> Details: Schedule 1 Microfilm T-6488 >> >> Raine James M Head M Aug 9 1834 ON >> Presbyterian Bailiff >> Raine Isabella F Wife M Oct 28 1841 >> Robertson Ettie F Head W Jan 3 1868 >> Gov't painting bureau >> Robertson Mary Gertrude F Daughter S Apr 27 age >> 10 Can't read birth location Robertson Mary Catherine F >> Daughter S Dec 7 age 7 same Robertson Mary Lillian F >> Daughter S Sep 4 age 4 same >> >> In 1881: >> >> James RAINE M Male English 44 O. >> <Ontario> Labourer C. Presbyterian >> Isabela RAINE M Female Scottish 37 O. >> <Ontario> C. Presbyterian >> James RAINE Male English 13 O. >> <Ontario> C. Presbyterian >> Anna RAINE Female English 11 O. >> <Ontario> C. Presbyterian >> John RAINE Male English 8 O. >> <Ontario> C. Presbyterian >> Mary RAINE Female English 6 O. >> <Ontario> C. Presbyterian >> George RAINE Male English 3 O. >> <Ontario> C. Presbyterian >> >> Source Information: >> Census Place Wellington Ward, Ottawa, Carleton, Ontario >> Family History Library Film 1375865 >> NA Film Number C-13229 >> District 105 >> Sub-district A >> Division 2 >> Page Number 26 >> Household Number 127 >> >> Marg >> >> p&rgordon wrote: >> >>> William R. is my g grandfather. He was born April 14, 1831. It is >>> my belief that he first married Hannah Adwen Raine in 1860. His >>> parents on the entry are given as James Johnson and Margaret Johnson >>> (note no "t" in Johnson) , but the age is 26, rather than 30. I >>> think it is him but am not 100% sure. Hannah died on January 28, >>> 1871 and an infant son died in 1871, supposedly at age of 10 days. >>> However, I wonder if the age is 100 days, as I found the birth of >>> James Henry Raine Johnston, Oct 2, 1870, with parents William and >>> Hannah Adevin. I know there was a James and Jane Raine living in the >>> same area at that time, and Hannah who married William Johnston is >>> their daughter, so think that Adevin is incorrect. As for James >>> Henry , if he died 10 days into 1871, he would be 100 days old. I >>> know for sure that he married my g grandmother Jane Russell Spence, >>> but not sure when. I think it was later in 1871, possibly Sept. as >>> Walter was born June 1872. Can anyone find this second marriage in >>> particular? Or tell me more about the first marriage. One clue >>> might be that I know that William had a daughter Velinda E. >>> (Belinda) from his first marriage so if her birth was found (about >>> 1863), it might have the mother's name. Velinda is with William and >>> Jane Russell on a later census in Manitoba and she is only 9 years >>> younger than Jane so cannot be her biological daughter. Same with a >>> son William born about 1870. >>> Thanks for any help. >>> Peggy >>> >>> ==== CAN-ONT-CARLETON Mailing List ==== >>> Remember -- no query is ever too small, >>> someone may have the answer to add to your >>> family group sheets >>> >>> ============================== >>> View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >>> marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> ==== CAN-ONT-CARLETON Mailing List ==== >> The 1911 census records are being transcribed! >> It is fun -- http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/ >> Another way to find family members >> >> ============================== >> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >> ancestors at the same time. 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