Wow! Sue, thank you so much. This is definitely my family. I can't believe it. I started looking for them in 1982 and finally they are found! Now I can start to flesh out the details. Can you tell me if there is anything online (referring to the 1871 Cumberland Census) that I can get land info, more vital stats or any other leads? Thanks so very much, Mrs. Kelly Venance ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Maxime Ethier and his younger brother (by at least 12 years) Napoleon were of the 7th generation of Ethiers in America. Their ancestor was a Leonard Ethier who originated in Angoumois in the centre-west of France. Leonard was the immigrant and in 1670 he married in Montreal Elisabeth Godillon. Maxime Ethier was the eldest son of Francois Ethier and Angelique Nadon who were married in 1841 at Sainte-Rose, in the NW of Montreal. Maxime married Julie Bigras in 1861 in the neighbouring village of Saint-Martin in Quebec. Julie was a daughter of Joachim Bigras and Julie Martin. Maxime and Julie are in the 1871 census of Cumberland in East Ontario. Apparently their son, Joachim died in 1948 and is buried in Notre Dame in Ottawa. If my translation is correct both Joachim and his uncle Napoleon worked in the quarry in Gloucester, Russell, Ontario, and Joachim was still in Gloucester in the 1901 census.