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    1. [CAN-ONT-CARLETON] Flemings
    2. Lorne & Trina Wanner
    3. Researching Flemings from Goulbourn twsp starting with Andrew Fleming emigrated to Canada from Ireland abt. 1820. HIs son William m. Eliza Simpson oldest child of William & Eliza....Andrew m Susanna Simpson.. youngest child of Andrew & Susanna is Lucy, m Delbert Russell.. Lucy was my grandmother. William & Eliza had abt 12 children. Would be interested in any info regarding this Fleming Family.

    11/20/2001 12:00:25
    1. [CAN-ONT-CARLETON] Post 1901 Census -- Activity in House of Commons and Senate PLUS Scoreboards
    2. Muriel M. Davidson
    3. To all:- It seems to be a beehive of activity on Parliament Hill, and to assist us, the scoreboards for Nov. 19 are posted, MANY changes -- I have the pages printed so do my own updating. Before writing, please check the scoreboards. http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index6.htm http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Secscore1.htm Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee As of Nov. 22: <davidson3542@rogers.com> =========================================== Greetings All. There is currently considerable activity at this time, relating to our campaign, in both the Senate and the House of Commons. Senator Lorna Milne's Bill S-12 is being considered in Committee at this time and it is expected that it will shortly be referred back to the Senate in Report stage where it would receive more discussion and receive third reading. If it passes third reading it would be referred to the House of Commons. It is expected that Murray Calder's Bill C-312 will this week be considered in order to determine whether or not it will be considered votable. We are optimistic that it will be votable. If votable, it would receive up to three hours debate in the House. If non-votable it would receive a maximum of 1 hour discussion and would then be dropped. If votable, and if passed, it would go through the normal procedures of being referred to Committee, brought back to the House for the Report Stage and third reading after which, if passed, it would be referred to the Senate. Rules of the House do not permit two Bills that are identical (such as C-312 and S-12), or nearly so to be considered in the House at the same time. Should Bill S-12 pass all the steps in the Senate and be referred to the House, Murray Calder would likely withdraw his Bill C-312. With everything that is going on at this time it is important to keep collecting signatures on petitions. It is equally important, if not more so right now, to continue writing, or to write again, to our Members of Parliament and Senators to seek their support for these Bills. Check the updated Scoreboards before writing. For those having Gold Ticks of support, messages of appreciation should be sent with a wish for their continued support. For Fence-sitters, or those who have not responded at all, ask for their support for these Bills and request a response to your query. If writing to the few having Red Xs of opposition, respectfully request their reasons for their opposition. In all instances, keep your messages polite, direct, and to the point. It is especially important at this time to keep the pressure on. We must not allow our representatives to think that we have given up on, or are no longer interested, in regaining the public access to Historic Census Records the we are currently denied. With everyone assisting, we WILL succeed in our goal. We cannot, however, think that our friends efforts will be enough to do the job. We must do it ourselves, and we must do it NOW!! Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

    11/19/2001 02:56:12
    1. [CAN-ONT-CARLETON] Post 1901 Census - Article by Professor Bill Waiser
    2. Muriel M. Davidson
    3. Greetings All. I copy below FYI another excellent article written by Professor Bill Waiser that was printed on page A15 of this morning's (19 Nov 2001) Globe and Mail. My thanks to Ian Cooper who advised us about the article. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted. ================================ Come to your census, Statscan -- Bill Waiser Statistics Canada is getting desperate. How else can one explain the recent Department of Public Works contract tender to convene 14 town hall meetings (one in every province and territory) and 24 focus group sessions (two in every centre) to survey the public's attitude to the release of historical census records? There's nothing wrong with public consultation. But Statscan has already been down this road. In November, 1999, then industry minister John Manley appointed a blue-ribbon panel to investigate the question of access to historical census records. Statscan not only supported the initiative, but facilitated the committee's activities. The panel, which included a former Supreme Court of Canada judge, heard from various stakeholders; it considered the findings of a March, 2000, Environics poll and the opinion of several focus groups. It found that the majority of those who participated in the national poll support the release of their personal census information after 100 years. The focus groups generally agreed. Many participants appreciated the fact that the future release of census material would allow their descendants to explore family roots. The survey results flatly contradicted Statscan's repeated claim that the release of historic census material would jeopardize future census participation. The panel noted that the previous release of census materials in Canada (up to 1901) had not produced any objection. In fact, the panel suggested that if American and British releases were also included, more than 620 million individual records had been released without a single complaint. Why then, is Statscan commissioning another round of public consultations? The simple answer is that the agency didn't like the panel's recommendations -- in particular, that pre-1918 census records be made available to the public immediately, according to existing regulations. Statscan is also apparently trying to counter a new threat -- the most recent legal opinion on the matter. Since 1978, there have been 11 -- yes, 11 -- legal opinions on the question of public access to historical census materials. The latest, dated Aug. 1, 2000, and made available through access to information, was prepared by a senior counsel with the Department of Justice, who was asked to consider whether pre-1918 census records could be legally released after 92 years without any legislative change. Ann Chaplin's opinion was an unequivocal yes -- noting that if these records were meant to be kept secret forever, why did the Laurier government insist that they be transferred to the National Archives as a permanent record? This legal opinion effectively undercuts Statscan's stubborn refusal to transfer census materials to the custody and control of the National Archivist. It raises serious concern about Statcan's motives. Why is the government agency embarking on yet another round of public opinion surveys in what appears to be a transparent attempt to discredit Department of Justice legal opinions? Surely it's not going to ask loaded questions designed to raise public fears over the release of census materials. Why is Statistics Canada determined to ignore the panel's recommendations, especially when public opinion surveys were involved? Did participants give the "wrong" answers? Most importantly, why is Statscan denying thousands of ordinary Canadians the pleasure of learning more about their ancestor's lives? Isn't 92 years a reasonable waiting period for the release of these records? Those interested in Canada's past deserve to know. --------------------------------------------------- Bill Waiser is writing a history of Saskatchewan for the 2005 provincial centennial.

    11/19/2001 10:41:15
    1. [CAN-ONT-CARLETON] Post 1901 Census -- Scoreboard updates & more.
    2. Muriel M. Davidson
    3. To all:- The balance of Gordon's message is very important so will post that tomorrow -- also keeps memos shorter! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee As of Nov. 22: <davidson3542@rogers.com> ============================================= Greetings All. I have just finished sending files to Global Genealogy for loading to the server and updating of the Scoreboards for MPs and Senators. When loaded, the online Scoreboard totals will show a date of 19 November. The current online totals show a date of 31 October. The new totals reflect all responses from MPs and Senators that have been forwarded to me. I currently have no further correspondence from MPs or Senators that would cause a change in their positions shown on the Scoreboards. Please check the Scoreboards in a day or so. If you have any correspondence from MPs or Senators that would change the position shown for them please forward it to me so that I might bring things up to date once again. Changes since the posting of 31 October are as follows: Gold Ticks of support have been awarded to MPs, Carole-Marie Allard (PQ), Elsie Wayne (NB), Howard Hillstrom (MB), and Jim Gouk (BC). Senators Isobel Finnerty (ON), Laurier LaPierre (ON), and Gerry St. Germain (BC) have also been awarded Gold Ticks. One Senator has been removed from the Scoreboard because he has retired. Non-committal Fence icons have been awarded to MPs Julian Reed (ON) and Steve Mahoney (ON). Both of these previously had Red Xs of opposition. Fence icons have also been awarded to MPs Derek Lee (ON) Karen Redman (ON), and to Senator Terry Stratton (MB). Totals currently stand at: House of Commons: FOR - 139, AGAINST - 7, NON-COMMITTAL - 67, NO RESPONSE - 88 Senate: FOR - 21, AGAINST - 3, NON-COMMITTAL - 10, NO RESPONSE - 63 With everything that is going on at this time it is important to keep collecting signatures on petitions. It is equally important, if not more so right now, to continue writing, or to write again, to our Members of Parliament and Senators to seek their support for these Bills. Check the updated Scoreboards before writing. For those having Gold Ticks of support, messages of appreciation should be sent with a wish for their continued support. For Fence-sitters, or those who have not responded at all, ask for their support for these Bills and request a response to your query. If writing to the few having Red Xs of opposition, respectfully request their reasons for their opposition. In all instances, keep your messages polite, direct, and to the point. It is especially important at this time to keep the pressure on. We must not allow our representatives to think that we have given up on, or are no longer interested, in regaining the public access to Historic Census Records the we are currently denied. With everyone assisting, we WILL succeed in our goal. We cannot, however, think that our friends efforts will be enough to do the job. We must do it ourselves, and we must do it NOW!! Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

    11/18/2001 05:02:54
    1. [CAN-ONT-CARLETON] Grainger/Granger/Hudson/Duke - 19th Century - England/Ireland>Canada
    2. Hello: If anyone can help with the following family, I would really appreciate any imput. I've been tearing my hair out trying to get any information on them. My ggg-grandfather, William Grainger (also spelt Granger, though that spelling seemed to die out with the next generation), was born, as far as I can tell, in co Galway, Ireland ca. 1810. He emigrated to Canada sometime in the mid-to-late 1830s. The earliest record - and the least reliable - that I can find is the 1842 Canadian census, which states he was married and he was both a weaver and a farmer. His only child - a son, Thomas - was born 24 June 1842 in Fitzroy twp, Carleton co, Ontario, Canada. William's wife at the time was Esther DUKE, who was born ca. 1823 in co. Leitrim, Ireland and died 1852 in Fitzroy twp, Carleton co, Ontario, Canada. Soon after his wife's early death (she was only 29), he remarried to a widow, Mary (?) HUDSON, who had been born ca. 1817 in England. Mary died 1874 in Fitzroy twp, Carleton co, Ontario, Canada. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find a death date for William. It is possible that William had a brother named John, also born in co. Galway, who emigrated with him and was mentally handicapped (thanks to census records, who consistantly list him as "deaf and dumb"). However, since his birthdates have never matched (they range from 1805 to 1840), I'm not completely sure of their relationship. Cheers, Gwen - Ontario, Canada

    11/18/2001 12:39:46
    1. [CAN-ONT-CARLETON] From List-mom - Trouble at Rootsweb
    2. Good Evening Everyone: Just a quite note to let everyone know that for about 12 hours today (mine just started working about an hour ago - 6:00 pm EST), the Rootsweb mailing list system was down. Mail sent to any lists during this 12 hour period was, on the whole, lost and you should repost. Cheers, Gwen List-mom

    11/18/2001 12:19:22
    1. Re: [CAN-ONT-CARLETON] Emigration
    2. Dear Alex, Thank you for the information. My family left Ontario for Ohio in 1864 and from what I have been able to gather, there are no records for that time period. Anne Marie

    11/16/2001 11:25:50
    1. [CAN-ONT-CARLETON] Address Change Effective Nov. 22, 2001 -- Please Save!
    2. Muriel M. Davidson
    3. To all who are corresponding with me re Post-1901 Census Records Release, or many others, there is a slight change in address, to be effective November 22, 2001:- Present e-mail address: <davidson3542@home.com> Change on Nov. 22: <davidson3542@rogers.com> - due to changes in the Rogers system Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Brampton, Ontario

    11/16/2001 02:38:17
    1. [CAN-ONT-CARLETON] New Email address
    2. ted smtih
    3. Effective 22 November 2001 My current Email address is: Bertts @home.com My new Email address will be: Bertts @rogers.com

    11/16/2001 08:46:05
    1. [CAN-ONT-CARLETON] Father J.W. Forbes & Desmond Eoin Stringer
    2. Alex Davidson
    3. While going through my grandmother's prayer book, I found a card, "Souvenir of my Ordination to the Holy Priesthood by Most Rev. J.W. Forbes, D.D., in St. Brigid's Church, Ottawa, Ontario, June 7, 1928 and of my First Solemn Mass at the same Church June 10, 1928 Desmond Eoin Stringer. Neither of these priests are connected to my father but my O'Neill family were among the first parishiners of St. Brigids, which I always thought was spelled St. Bridgets! If anybody connected to either of these men would like this card, I'd be happy to mail it to them. Alex Davidson

    11/16/2001 05:40:15
    1. [CAN-ONT-CARLETON] Emigration
    2. Alex Davidson
    3. The 1920 census of the USA shows the year of entry to the country for persons born in other countries. It also shows the year of Naturalization. Alex Davidson

    11/16/2001 12:55:23
    1. [CAN-ONT-CARLETON] emigration
    2. Jaimie McEvoy
    3. There are no formal records of emigration from Canada to the United States in the 1800s - but... To start with, there was no formal immigration requirements between the two countries until 1904. So, if you were looking for someone who emigrated from one of the countries to the other, the only record would be their naturalization if they became a citizen. There is one other source - local newspapers. They sometimes kept columns on the comings and goings of people in the community, and sometimes small town newspapers have been indexed by someone in a way that includes these articles and not just vitals. If you can get to them, they are an interesting read anyway to see life in the time period of you ancestors, and are often small papers and not too much to read. I've seen some of these in the Kemptvill Advance and another old Kemptville paper, covering some of rural Carelton County. Jaimie McEvoy New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

    11/15/2001 08:42:57
    1. [CAN-ONT-CARLETON] Post 1901 Census - Bill C-312 going for Second Reading
    2. Muriel M. Davidson
    3. To all:- A very special and important message is printed below, with hope for the future of the Post-1901 Census. In the meantime, visit http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Petition.htm -- we need these! Muriel M. Davidson, Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee ------------------------------------------------------- Greetings All. MP Murray Calder, our champion in the House of Commons, recently had his name drawn in the Private Members Bill Lottery. While he has more than one Private Member Bill in the works he has chosen Bill C-312 as the one to put forth. C-312 is identical to Senator Milne's Bill S-12 currently under review by the Senate Standing Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology. If passed into law these Bills would give us the access to Historical Census Records that we seek. It is expected that the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs will likely meet on 21 November 2001. It is this Committee that will determine whether or not Bill C-312 will be deemed votable. Murray will make a presentation to argue that it should be votable. In it he will no doubt point to the enormous interest in this issue as expressed in the tens of thousands who have signed petitions. It is important to understand that the committee doesn't necessarily look at the merits of the bill -- only whether it should be votable. In other words, a committee member may be opposed to it, but still feel it should come to a vote. They will choose 5 bills from the 15 selected in the recent draw to become votable. The process is explained at this site: (be sure to include the full URL) www.parl.gc.ca/information/about/process/house/precis/chap15-e.htm If all goes well, the bill could come up in the House as early as December 11th. If deemed votable and passed at this stage, Bill C-312 would proceed to review by a Committee of the House. I copy below a list of the members of the committee and their email addresses. Perhaps they would appreciate some brief notes advising them of them of the importance of Census records to our research. Advise them that seek their positive vote in making Bill C-312 votable. Keep your messages polite and to the point. As a point of interest, checking the MP's Scoreboard for the members of this committee there are 8 gold ticks of support, 4 non-committal fences, three question marks indicating no response, and 1 red X of opposition. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted. ===================================== STANDING COMMITTEE ON PROCEDURE AND HOUSE AFFAIRS Chair -- Peter Adams <Adams.P@parl.gc.ca> Vice-Chairs Richard Harris <Harris.R@parl.gc.ca> Jacques Saada <Saada.J@parl.gc.ca> Members Pierre Brien <Brien.P@parl.gc.ca> Marlene Catterall <Catterall.M@parl.gc.ca> Cheryl Gallant <Gallant.C@parl.gc.ca> Yvon Godin <Godin.Y@parl.gc.ca> Michel Guimond <Guimond.M@parl.gc.ca> Jay Hill <Hill.J@parl.gc.ca. Joe Jordan <Jordan.J@parl.gc.ca> Paul Macklin <Macklin.P@parl.gc.ca> Carolyn Parrish <Parrish.C@parl.gc.ca> Geoff Regan <Regan.G@parl.gc.ca> John Reynolds <Reynolds.J@parl.gc.ca> John Richardson <Richardson.J@parl.gc.ca> Tony Tirabassi <Tirabassi.T@parl.gc.ca>

    11/15/2001 04:17:54
    1. [CAN-ONT-CARLETON] emmigration
    2. Dear Listers, Are there records of persons leaving Canada to the states in the years of about 1860 - 1868? Anne

    11/13/2001 01:44:34
    1. [CAN-ONT-CARLETON] Post-1901 Census -- 24 Liberal Members with NO REPLIES SINCE 1999!
    2. Muriel M. Davidson
    3. To all:- YOUR support is being requested for the release of Post-1901 Canadian Census Records -- people, other than genealogists, need these records to complete families -- personally, I do prefer these to church records as the complete family is shown. There are presently two Bills -- Senator Lorna Milne has S-12, which has passed Second Reading. Murray Calder, MP, could soon have his Bill C-312 in the House of Commons. Both are members of the Liberal Party -- one reason for support. Check the following sites for information and please reply to me:- http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census [Global Genealogy provides the pages at no cost] http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Petition.htm [English French, Senate, House of Commons and Non-Resident] http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index6.htm http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Senscore1.htm [Scoreboards for Senate and House of Commons] Also check Other Sites - Genetically Inherited Diseases. We need your reply and your assistance - NOW! Replies accepted from assistants - information on the sites. This is the very BLUE Ontario list -- let's hope it shrinks! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Brampton Centre riding. http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/nscensus.html ---------------------------- MRS. SUE BARNES - London West -- no answer since 1999 when Global Genealogy wrote to you. MR. RAY BONIN - Nickel Belt -- also never answered the 1999 letter from Global Genealogy MR. PAUL BONWICK - Sincoe-Grey -- no answer since 1999 MS. BONNIE BROWN -- Oakville - no answer since 1999 THE HON. ELINOR CAPLAN - Thornhill -- again, 1999!!! MR. STAN DROMISKY - Thunder Bay-Alikokan - 1999!!! THE HON. ART EGGLETON - York Centre -- again, 1999! MR. JOE FONTANA - London North Centre -- again, 1999! MR. BILL GRAHAM - Toronto Centre-Rosedale -- 1999!! MS. ALBINA GUARNIERI - Mississauga East - again, 1999! MR. TONY IANNO - Trinity-Spadina -- no answer since 1999 MR. JIM KARYGIANNIS - Hamilton West - again, 1999! MR. BILL KILGER - Stormont-Dundas-Charlottenburgh - 1999! MR. DEREK LEE - Scarborough-Rouge River -- again, 1999! MR. JOHN MALONEY - Erie-London -- no reply since 1999! THE HON. DIANE MARLEAU - Sudbury -- again, 1999! MR. JOHN McCALLUM - Markham -- replaced a GOLD!!! [He has never sent even one or two lines in reply] THE HON. ROBERT NAULT - Kenora-Rainy River - 1999! MR. CARMEN PROVENZANO - Sault Ste. Marie - 1999! MRS. KAREN REDMAN - Kitchener Centre -- again, 1999! MR. BEN SERRÉ - Temiskaming-Cochrane -- 1999 again! MR. ALEX SHEPHERD - Durham - no reply since 1999! MS. SUSAN WHELAN - Essex - No time since 1999!!! Please reply to me -- not to the lists, Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Brampton, Ontario

    11/08/2001 04:34:50
    1. [CAN-ONT-CARLETON] Post-1901 Census: Cross-Canada Blitz - ONTARIO
    2. Muriel M. Davidson
    3. To all:- There are 103 Members of Parliament elected in Ontario, but to date only 38 are in support of Post-1901 census release, with bills presently in the Senate and soon in House of Commons. Families use the census records to locate lost family members, complete families, many churches have sealed records -- these are NOT all being researched by genealogists -- many could not care less about a family history program -- just want to complete the families. http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Score3.htm#ONT Ontario led other provinces with SEVEN against census release and in one county, the MP did not consult the constituents. There are 34 who are UNDECIDED, but many gained this with an answer by an assistant. A total of 24 have never answered, some as far back as 1999. As many assistants open the mail, he or she may not know the answer. I will correspond with any assistant. WE hope genealogical and historical groups will discuss this as assistance is desired now. Petitions will be great -- at http://www.globalgenealogical.com/Census/Petition.htm Gordon Watts is away -- all Members of Parliament who do not have a Gold tick of support should be contacted. Read the messages under the private message boards at the left -- you will be surprised. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census

    11/08/2001 12:44:15
    1. [CAN-ONT-CARLETON] Kane
    2. Sharon Peot
    3. Does anyone have any information on Ellen Kane-Cane-Caine? I would like to find the name of her parents. She was living in the Richmond, Carleton,Ontario area with her husband John Walsh. She married in the late 1820's or early 1830'S. They had 9 children and the names are George, William, Francis, Susan, Charles, Eliza, Lewis, John and Michael. Any help will be most appreciated. Sharon

    11/04/2001 12:40:19
    1. Re: [CAN-ONT-CARLETON] New member
    2. Ellen Paul
    3. And where would you like me to look - in the censuses or parish registers? Can I have given names and/or approximate dates? Ellen Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Ovens" <jeannie@bmts.com> To: <CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 2:15 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-CARLETON] New member > l'm looking for John & Cathrine Cole also Richard & Sarah Cole any help > would be appricated. > Jean > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ellen Paul" <paul868@rcn.com> > To: <CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 11:25 AM > Subject: [CAN-ONT-CARLETON] New member > > > > Hello Gwen and fellow listers: > > I just had a very gracious welcome message from Gwen. Thank you. > > I live in Warren, CT and am researching the St. Denis + Shannon family > > of Richmond (1858 - 1866) > > I also have an ongoing mystery in March Twp. In 1851 four Shannon girls > > (ages 17-13) appear in service in four different households. Mary may > > have married Joseph St. Denis and Eliza may have married Louis > > Caillé/Cayes. Have no confirmation of either marriage. And what happened > > to Ann and Catherine? > > I have my copy of the parish register of St. Philip of Richmond (19th > > Century) and St. Clare of Goulbourn, 1851 & 1861 censuses for March and > > 1861 for Richmond and am willing to do lookups. > > Ellen Paul > > > > > > > > ==== CAN-ONT-CARLETON Mailing List ==== > > Search our growing Carleton county archives at: > > > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=CAN-ONT-CARL ETON > > > > ============================== > > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > > > > > > > > > ==== CAN-ONT-CARLETON Mailing List ==== > Please feel free to contact me at: > CAN-ONT-CARLETON-admin@rootsweb.com. > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

    11/04/2001 09:22:22
    1. Re: [CAN-ONT-CARLETON] New member
    2. Jean Ovens
    3. l'm looking for John & Cathrine Cole also Richard & Sarah Cole any help would be appricated. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ellen Paul" <paul868@rcn.com> To: <CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 11:25 AM Subject: [CAN-ONT-CARLETON] New member > Hello Gwen and fellow listers: > I just had a very gracious welcome message from Gwen. Thank you. > I live in Warren, CT and am researching the St. Denis + Shannon family > of Richmond (1858 - 1866) > I also have an ongoing mystery in March Twp. In 1851 four Shannon girls > (ages 17-13) appear in service in four different households. Mary may > have married Joseph St. Denis and Eliza may have married Louis > Caillé/Cayes. Have no confirmation of either marriage. And what happened > to Ann and Catherine? > I have my copy of the parish register of St. Philip of Richmond (19th > Century) and St. Clare of Goulbourn, 1851 & 1861 censuses for March and > 1861 for Richmond and am willing to do lookups. > Ellen Paul > > > > ==== CAN-ONT-CARLETON Mailing List ==== > Search our growing Carleton county archives at: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=CAN-ONT-CARLETON > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > > >

    11/03/2001 07:15:27
    1. Re: [CAN-ONT-CARLETON] New member - Shannons and Louis Cayer
    2. Al Lewis
    3. Hi Ellen: In regards to the Shannon family and Louis Cayer: James Farrell son of Farrell, James and Shannon, Ann (Shanahan) was born on 4/5/1844 Godparents: McKowen (sp?), John and Reilly, Sally Source: St. Michael's, Huntley Township Some of the Shannons may have been Shanahans who came in 1823 with Peter Robinson. Several people have been searching for Louis Cayer. I'll see what I have for him. ... Al Genealogy Web Site: http://www3.sympatico.ca/ag.lewis/search.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ellen Paul" <paul868@rcn.com> To: <CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 11:25 AM Subject: [CAN-ONT-CARLETON] New member > Hello Gwen and fellow listers: > I just had a very gracious welcome message from Gwen. Thank you. > I live in Warren, CT and am researching the St. Denis + Shannon family > of Richmond (1858 - 1866) > I also have an ongoing mystery in March Twp. In 1851 four Shannon girls > (ages 17-13) appear in service in four different households. Mary may > have married Joseph St. Denis and Eliza may have married Louis > Caillé/Cayes. Have no confirmation of either marriage. And what happened > to Ann and Catherine? > I have my copy of the parish register of St. Philip of Richmond (19th > Century) and St. Clare of Goulbourn, 1851 & 1861 censuses for March and > 1861 for Richmond and am willing to do lookups. > Ellen Paul > > > > ==== CAN-ONT-CARLETON Mailing List ==== > Search our growing Carleton county archives at: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=CAN-ONT-CARLETON > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! >

    11/02/2001 09:38:38