Hello All: What a nice way to start the new year, now if I could only find the key to my puzzle??? Charles James Ripley, from England, ( b. abt 1831, lived in Ottawa, married Johanna Lovering from Coldwater, Ont. They had 8 children Charles, Emma, Thomas, William, Albert, Maud (the only other one I have information on) m. a Carson who ran a paint and decorating busness in Ottawa, 3 daughters (unmarried) & one son Tom who took over his father's busness. Henry, Mable (my grandmother). He apparently worked for a logging company, possible Booth Logging, I also read the company records were destroyed with the owners death so if you know otherwise I'm all ears. Unfortunately I have yet to determine when he arrived and from where in England.

Hi, Listers! I'm searching for descendants of Rev. Asa Meech (after whom Meech Lake is named), b. 1775; d. Feb. 22, 1849; buried in Old Chelsea. My husband is descended from Asa's son, Charles (1836-1881). I am especially interested in finding descendants of Asa's son, Asa Jr., for a distant cousin of my husband's in Montana. Any help would be appreciated. I have info on Charles' line which I will share with anyone interested. Thanks. Nancy Meech

[Forwarded for Gordon Watts - (This request for financial assistance received prior approval by RootsWeb administration.) ======================================== THE TIME HAS COME -- YOUR HELP IS NEEDED NOW! For some time discussions have been taking place regarding the possibility of taking the federal government to Court to obtain a 'writ of mandamus'. If this action is successful - and we have every reason to believe it would be - it would force Statistics Canada to turn control of the 1906 Special Census of the Western Provinces (Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba) over to the National Archivist for immediate release to the Public. Such release would be in accordance with Regulations attached to the Privacy Act. A successful action to obtain the 1906 Census would likely set the precedent we need for the the 1911 and subsequent Census records to be made available to the public in accordance with Regulations attached to the Privacy Act. Lois Sparling, a lawyer in Calgary - and an active participant in our campaign - has been making preliminary preparations for such an action. Several plaintiffs have been lined up and an estimate of costs for proceeding has been put together. Lois will be contributing her time, but even considering that, it is expected that costs could be about $8000. This includes provision for the remote possibility that costs could be assessed against the plaintiffs. Over the course of our campaign several people have made offers of financial assistance to aid in our efforts. Up to now these offers have been refused with thanks. However, as the Walrus said in Lewis Carroll's Alice in Wonderland - ' The time has come.' We are now seeking your assistance in providing the funding necessary to proceed with our action against the government. Without the necessary funding we will be unable to proceed! The estimated $8,000 required is made up of approximately $3,000 expected to be needed for expenses (no legal fees), couriers, long distance telephone calls and faxes, filing fees and the cost of transcripts. The balance ($5,000) is to protect the Plaintiffs in the unlikely event that costs are assessed against us by the Court. It is unlikely that costs will be awarded against us because, first of all, we would have to lose, and secondly, the Federal Court is reluctant to award costs against Plaintiffs in a public interest case. It is expected that we may be in a position to refund part of these donations. We believe the fair thing is to make the refunds on a pro rata basis, i.e. a percentage to everybody. There are practical limitations to this however. We cannot possibly do this for a lot of $5 donations. Therefore, pro rated refunds will be made for only those donations of $100 (Cdn) or more. We suggest that people get together to combine their donations. Approach your local genealogical and historical associations to make a contribution. Pass the hat at your meetings and send a cheque from your local group. In that way your local group will get any refund that might be forthcoming. Send your cheques to: Lois Sparling Vallance & Company Barristers & Solicitors Suite 1400 550 - 6 Ave SW Calgary, Alberta T2V 3H4 Cheques should be made out to "Lois Sparling - in trust". Make the notation "Census Action" on the cheque. Lois will be the lawyer representing the Plaintiffs in the case. The funds will be deposited to her trust account. Lois has the means to accept US and other foreign currencies, and can also accept contributions through VISA. Transactions through VISA however, are more trouble than cheques -- and each transaction costs us 2.4 percent. A receipt will be issued for each and every contribution received. It will keep costs down if groups can collect from their members and send one cheque thus requiring the need to issue only one receipt. Make sure to include a covering letter or note with your full name and mailing address. As noted above, Lois is donating her time and expertise, and no part of the monies contributed to the legal case, other than costs, will go to her. A huge amount of work is involved in this action. Two other lawyers have offered assistance -- one from her office, and another member of the AFHS -- their experience in this kind of action, however, is limited. Normally the loser in a court action pays costs to the winner. These costs follow a chart set out in the relevant Rules of Court and are only intended to be a partial payment of legal fees. If our Plaintiffs are awarded costs it is felt that Lois, and the assisting lawyers, should get this money as partial reimbursement for their time, effort and expertise, aka their legal fees. (This request for financial assistance received prior approval by RootsWeb administration.) Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index.htm en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

Ferdinand BEYER emigrated to Canada about 1850 and was part owner of the Gillies-Beyer Central Canada Machine Works at Carleton Place. His wife, Mary Ann Sample, was from Ashton. They had 10 children, most of whom moved west. He was active in his church, Baptist, I believe. Looking for any info on him, his wife or any of his children: Susanna Caroline, Charles Werner, Rosa Julia, August Fredric, John Alford, Otto Rudolf, Robert Rueben, Blanche and Henry William. Susan K. Spies

Still seeking information on the four Shannon sisters of March Twp circa 1851; St. Denis-Shannon family of Richmond Twp. 1858-1868; Louis Caillé of Nepean 1871-1916 and William Tierney+Eliza Cayis family of Nepean 1889- Happy New Year everyone! Ellen Paul Offering to do lookups in the St. Philip of Richmond parish register; St. Clare of Goulbourn; 1851 censuses for March and 1861 censuses for March and Richmond

Hello all and Happy New Year!! Both sides of my family settled in Carleton County, Goulbourne and Nepean Townships in the 1850's. They originated from Killyleagh, County Down, Ireland and County Cavan, Ireland. Original spelling of our last name was McClinton, changed to McLinton sometime before 1900. Surnames that I am interested in include the above mentioned, as well as: Lytle (Lyttle), McCoy, Ludlow, McNeill, Faulkner, Torney, Hawkins. Good luck everyone with your searching and have a great year. Dave McLinton, Omemee, Ontario.

This is a posting by a non-subscriber, so if you have information for this person or can in any way help, please send your comments to: schradea@shell.core.com Cheers, Gwen - list-mom >Subj: {not a subscriber} roll call: ETHIER and HAMEL >Date: 1/7/2002 09:58:13 Eastern Standard Time >From: schradea@shell.core.com (schradea) >To: CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L@rootsweb.com > >Researching Octave ETHIER born c1830 and Philomene >HAMEL born c1835. Thanks. > >Ray MacDonald

This is a posting by a non-subscriber, so if you have information for this person or can in any way help, please send your comments to: wmillar@sympatico.ca Cheers, Gwen >Subj: {not a subscriber} Alexander Dill Millar >Date: 1/7/2002 08:49:41 Eastern Standard Time >From: wmillar@sympatico.ca (wendy) >To: CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L@rootsweb.com > >I'm looking for details about my grandfather (b. Ireland 1869, em. 1893) who appears >to have lived in Ottawa about 1890-91 working in the lumber business and serving >as a governor general's footguard (if you can do both at the same time) after taking >a course at a military school in Toronto. For two years before that (1888-90) he was >a brakeman on the Canadian Pacific Railway and for four years before that (1884->88) worked for W.H. Thompson, manufacturing cheese. I'd like to know where the >family farm was; my source says only Grenville, Ontario. I'd like to think it was >South Gower but the family came to Canada from Ireland too late for the 1871 >Census and I haven't found a James (great-grandfather) and Mary (Byers) in >subsequent censuses (censae??).

Hi Listers I am still looking for information on the families of Armstrong/Doyle/Logan/Boucher - March Township Rivington/Fulford - Huntley Township Carleton County from people who might be on the list but who I have not heard from before to fill in some blanks!!!!! Many Thanks Marilyn marilynr37@cogeco.ca

Happy New Year everyone! I am looking for information on the children of William James Moore and Eliza Jane Scott: 1 David Moore b: 1818 d: September 02, 1901 . +Mary Ann Clark b: 1819 d: August 29, 1899 ...... 2 William James Moore b: April 14, 1848 d: February 06, 1914 .......... +Eliza Jane Scott b: May 02, 1854 d: May 08, 1930 .............. 3 Annie May Moore b: May 24, 1872 d: May 03, 1961 .................. +Mills Collins Foster b: February 01, 1867 d: January 18, 1948 .............. 3 Caraline Moore b: March 30, 1874 .............. 3 William Henry Moore b: July 12, 1877 .............. 3 Wilamenie Moore b: December 02, 1881 .............. 3 James Scott Moore b: January 23, 1884 .............. 3 Marion Moore b: July 17, 1886 .................. +Possibly William R. Kent .............. 3 Kathleen Stuart Moore b: January 10, 1890 .................. +Robert James Smith .............. 3 Ida Moore b: August 06, 1892 .............. 3 Ella Moore b: May 20, 1895 The children were born in Richmond Village and the family moved to Ottawa (Hintonburg) abt. 1900. Thank-you. Joan Meighen Brandon, MB.

Looking for John and Martha (Bleeks) Routledge family. Children William, Alexander and Emma that I know of. Emma married Fred HARKNESS. This is my first ROLL CALL. Donna in Oregon

Hi Listers I am still looking for information ( any ) on the families of Macartney/Johnston/McEwan/Craven in Carleton County lizsmith@ripnet.com

Dear Listers, I am still looking for some kind of information regarding my McEnerny line. I have: John McEnerny b. sometime around 1800; d. unknown; m. Mary McMahon (b. 1815) about 1835 in Limerick County, Ireland. Children that I know of are: Michael b. 1847 in Ireland; d. 1905 in Kentucky, USA Catherine b. October 2, 1856, near Ottawa, Ontario; d. April 16.1921 in Akron, Ohio; m. George Wilkins in 1912. I am guessing that my McEnerny family immigrated to Ontario in about 1854 or 55. They moved again to Ohio in 1864. I don't know what took them to Ohio after having been in Ontario for so many years. I am wondering if it may have been the death of John McEnerny, but I haven't been able to find any record of death...and I don't really know what to do or where to look. I am in Oregon, USA Anne

Good Morning List! (don't you just hate cheery people in the morning ;-) I hope everyone is well and having excellent luck in their searches for missing family members. I'm currently searching for a friend who doesn't have the slightest interest (or the time) to do the search herself. (It's funny how I get roped into these kinds of projects...what is it about not being able to say "no"? :-) And, of course, it's been giving me pains! Since it is the beginning of a new year (2002 already! - where did the time go?), I think it would be a wonderful idea to have a roll call. Generally, roll calls are not encouraged, but once (or twice) a year is not going to hurt. So, dust off all your information - I want to hear from each and every one of you. Wishing everyone the best for the new year! Cheers, Gwen Cameron

To all -- Today, while snow kept me from visiting Sunnybrook and my husband, I spent the afternoon visiting Ontario Genealogical Societies. Some of the branches do not have internet sites -- but are listed by address and name. Information varied on the different sites, some need to be updated as the Expert Panel is "past history". I was checking for a link to Post-1901 census pages as I feel a link is often better and reaches more people than mail list postings. I even learned one branch was having a "Show and Tell" -- but NO link. One branch Waterloo OGS Branch added a very impressive link today -- you will have to check it to see the simplicity of it http://www.waterlooOGS.ca/ I had mentioned a one-liner sentence or Barney Kaufman's Canadian flag logo -- a tip of the hat to the webmaster!! You will like it. Two OGS members are trying to obtain release of Post-1901 or 1911 census records - Murray Calder, MP and Senator Lorna Milne. However, Murray's C-312 was declared Non-Votable by a committee so he will only have ONE hour of debate and NO vote. It would be nice to see him on CPAC waving a fistful of House of Commons petitions. Senator Lorna Milne belongs to two branches - her Bill S-12 is in Third Reading stage, has more debate then we hope a positive vote. After that it comes back to House of Commons for repeat performance. This is why -- if we want the 1911 census released -- we keep asking for groups such as OGS to sign both petitions -- NUMBERS COUNT IN OTTAWA -- scrutineers count the signatures, believe it or not! Let's surprise both Murray and Lorna -- they are working for us -- give them a TON of paper -- signatures on petitions!! Download and sign!! Muriel M. Davidson davidson3542@rogers.com Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee 25 Crestview Avenue, Brampton, ON L6W 2R8 http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Petition.htm

Hi there, I'm new to this list and am looking for information on Maxime ROCHON and Adeline QUEVILLON-ROCHON. My grandfather Joseph Adelard was their son. Other children were Aime Maxime, Albert, Yvonne and Marianne. Those are the ones that survived. I've also found Marie Louise, Emile Joseph, Rose de Lima, Joseph and Alice. They were in Cyrville from approximately 1895 to 1916. Any help on dates of birth/death or Maxime's parents would be greatly appreciated. Deb Rochon

[Forwarded by muriel.davidson@rogers.com - I apologize for the many postings -- please PRINT, contact either Gordon or myself re Town Hall meetings, Compromise Solution, Focus Groups] ------------------------------------------ Greetings All. Christmas is over and we are now into the new year -- 2002. Time to get back to workto obtain release of the 1911 census records. The next Town Hall meetings are coming up on 7, 9, and 11 January in Halifax, Toronto, and Montreal respectively. The full schedule of Town Hall meetings, and information regarding how to register as a speaker or to attend as part of the audience, is at the Environics Research Group website at http://erg.environics.net/ Please contact me as I may be able to assist. Another main thrust of the Town Hall meetings is to promote the so-called 'Compromise Solution'. Copies of this 'compromise' were made available to all attending the Ottawa meeting Every speaker rejected it. To see a copy of this 'compromise', and my critique of it, visit my column regarding it at http://globalgazette.net/gazce/gazce74.htm Your comments are requested. Further reports of the Ottawa Town Hall meeting and a critique of Dr. Ivan Fellegi's presentation to the Senate Committee is in my column at http://globalgazette.net/gazce/gazce75.htm Obtaining information regarding the Town Hall meetings is relatively simple -- that is available from those who request to participate or attend, and who give us reports on what has taken place. Getting information regarding what takes place in the Focus Group studies that follow each Town Hall meeting is quite another thing. Participants in the Focus Groups do not apply or volunteer as is the case for the Town Hall meetings -- they are chosen at random through telephone polls and must meet certain criteria to be accepted. We know little about the criteria, or about information given and questions asked of participants. We would appreciate anyone participating in these Focus Groups let us know what takes place in them. We cannot stress enough the importance of participating in these Town Hall meetings. The worst thing we can do is have any of these meetings take place without our presence. Please keep us up to date on what happens at these meetings. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index.htm en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

[Forwarded by muriel.davidson@rogers.com -- Please PRINT, Part #4 will be posted tomorrow -- if YOU have missed any of these important memos -- send a personal note to me, please at davidson3542@rogers.com ] --------------------------- Greetings All. Christmas is over and we are now into the new year -- 2002. Time to get back to work - unless you will be alive in 2094!. The next Town Hall meetings are coming up on 7, 9, and 11 January in Halifax, Toronto, and Montreal respectively. Further reports of the Ottawa Town Hall meeting and a critique of Dr. Ivan Fellegi's presentation to the Senate Committee is in my column at http://globalgazette.net/gazce/gazce75.htm Will all those who will be speaking or attending contact me at gordon_watts@telus.net -- YOUR reports are very necessary. Chief Statistician Dr. Ivan Fellegi still insists on promoting the non-existent 'promise' of never-ending confidentiality even though he has been unable to produce any documented evidence of it, as we are requesting. Another main thrust of the Town Hall meetings is to promote the so-called 'Compromise Solution'. Copies of this 'compromise' were made available to all attending the Ottawa meeting and it is expected that this will be repeated at all upcoming meetings. Every speaker at the Ottawa meeting was asked if the 'compromise' was something they could support. Every speaker rejected it. To see a copy of this 'compromise', and my critique of it, visit my column regarding it at http://globalgazette.net/gazce/gazce74.htm After reading the 'compromise' please send me your comments regarding it. Please make your comments relevant to the 'compromise' suggested rather than to my critique. I will be sending many of these to Environics and Statistics Canada. My intent at this time would be to include senders names (unless requested not to) but not email or snail mail addresses. The full schedule of Town Hall meetings, and information regarding how to register as a speaker or to attend as part of the audience, is at the Environics Research Group website at http://erg.environics.net/ We cannot stress enough the importance of participating in these Town Hall meetings. The worst thing we can do is have any of these meetings take place without our presence. Please keep us up to date on what happens at these meetings. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index.htm en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

[Forwarded by muriel.davidson@rogers.com -- please PRINT. Part 1 was posted last evening -- important information] Greetings All. Christmas is over and we are now into the new year -- 2002. Time to get back to work if we wish to see release of Post-1901 census records.. The next Town Hall meetings are coming up on 7, 9, and 11 January in Halifax, Toronto, and Montreal respectively. Please advise me of any who have been accepted as participants or will be in attendance. The full schedule of Town Hall meetings, and information regarding how to register as a speaker or to attend as part of the audience, is at the Environics Research Group website at http://erg.environics.net/ Reports from the Ottawa meetings denote it is obvious that Statistics Canada has directed Environics to be on the lookout for certain things. Presentations to the Town Hall meetings should include wording that would show that participation in Census and trust in Statistics Canada would increase with knowledge of eventual release of Census records. Chief Statistician Dr. Ivan Fellegi has changed the focus of his attack on our efforts from the strictly legal (because he knows he would lose), to one of a fear of lessening the integrity of the statistical agency. He still insists on promoting the non-existent 'PROMISE' of never-ending confidentiality even though he has been unable to produce any documented evidence of it. Our counter to their insistence there is a 'promise' is to ask them to produce evidence of it. The legislation quoted by them certainly does not contain any 'promise' that confidentiality of Census will never end. Further reports of the Ottawa Town Hall meeting and a critique of Dr. Ivan Fellegi's presentation to the Senate Committee is in my column at http://globalgazette.net/gazce/gazce75.htm Please keep us up to date on what happens at these meetings. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index.htm en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm [Part 3 -- FOCUS GROUPS -- to follow -- Print and Save -- Muriel]

[Forwarded by muriel.davidson@rogers.com -- please PRINT, Part 2 will be posted tomorrow -- very important information] Greetings All. Christmas is over and we are now into the new year -- 2002. Time to get back to work if we wish to see release of Post-1901 census records.. The next Town Hall meetings are coming up on 7, 9, and 11 January in Halifax, Toronto, and Montreal respectively. Not much time left. While I have been advised of some participants scheduled for these meetings, there are certainly others that I am not aware of. It would be appreciated if anyone scheduled to speak or attend these meetings would please advise me. The full schedule of Town Hall meetings, and information regarding how to register as a speaker or to attend as part of the audience, is at the Environics Research Group website at http://erg.environics.net/ From the Ottawa meetings it is obvious that Statistics Canada has directed Environics to be on the lookout for certain things. Questions asked by the moderator show that they are looking for any indication that knowledge Census records would be released after 92 years will lessen individuals participation in Census, or lessen their trust in Statistics Canada in general. Presentations to the Town Hall meetings should include wording that would show just the opposite -- participation in Census and trust in Statistics Canada would increase with knowledge of eventual release of Census records. We cannot stress enough the importance of participating in these Town Hall meetings. The worst thing we can do is have any of these meetings take place without our presence. Please keep us up to date on what happens at these meetings. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index.htm en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm