Hi again Janet I just looked at the 1901 Census and your Langford's are in Torbolton, and are Irish. That area is now called Buckham's Bay if you know the area. I am also related to the Buckham's through my Langford line (very convoluted). My 2nd great grandmother, Isabella Buckham Langford, came to Canada abt 1820 with her family and her brother, John Buckham, was the first civilian settler in Torbolton. They named Buckham's Bay after him. I think there was someone else on the list related to the Langford's in Torbolton. There was a William and his sister Mary Ann who never married and I ended up with William's Will. I sent it to whoever it was on the list. You could check the archives to see who it was because I sent the correspondence through the list. Shirley __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Hi Janet I don't think I'm related. There were at least 2 Langford families, perhaps 3 in the Ottawa area. Where exactly in Carleton County? What sub-district? I know there were some in Torbolton and there was also a John Langford I come across a lot in Ottawa who was with the fire dept and was also a city counsellor. He's in the earlier Ottawa City Directories (1860's). He could have been a father or uncle or something. I do find that even in the late 1800's there are some naming clues that help me. There was also a family in the Gatineau (Rupert area I think). I've come across a few in my searches. I can tell mine because they are English and most others are Irish. Also mine are Protestant while some of the Irish families are Catholic. It's a long shot but you could try the 1911 Census in the same district. I've found 2 of my family members at the same address in 1911 that they were at in 1901. Of course I already knew I'd find them there cause it was my great grandfather and his brother and my mom had told me where they lived. If they were in the country then look for the range and lot number. Shirley Janet MacDonald <jkmacd@telusplanet.net> wrote: Shirley: I noticed your reply about Richard Henry Langford. I was wondering if you were related to the following family: Charlotte 1853-1940 (nee Downey) and John Langford 1840-1921. Their children: William, Thomas, Minnie, and Mary. According to the 1901 census there was no Richard Henry as a child. My Langfords were from the Carleton township of Ontario. Charlotte and John are buried in St Thomas Anglican Cemetery. Charlotte is my great grandmother's sister. I look forward to hearing from you. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shirley MacNutt" To: Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 9:25 PM Subject: Re: [Can-Ont-Carleton] Richard Henry Langford - Canadian WWI soldier - born in Carleton Place - 1890 > Hi Hugh > > I know I answered your post last time you asked but with the further info that you sent (siblings) I believe this is my Langford family. I have a Samuel Silas Langford but he shows up on the Census as Silas S. Langford. His 2nd wife was Emma Rogan but before that he was married to Mary Crain. I have Richard's birthdate as Feb 3, 1890. I didn't know where he was born aside from Ontario. He would have been my great grandfather's cousin. Silas was a blacksmith and he's on the 1901 Census on Concession Street in Ottawa (what is now Bronson Street I think). I don't have any information for you about his service but I can give you his parents and grandparents (on both sides) info. I don't have a death date for Mary Crain. A few of the Langford's married into the Crain family of Merrickville. > > Shirley MacNutt - BC Canada > > Hugh Whitney wrote: > I would like to repeat a request made a number of months ago: > > I am looking for information on a Richard Henry Langford, born on February 3rd, 1890 in Carleton Place, son of Silas and Mary Langford, brother James R. and sisters Mabel G., and Mildred M. He was a soldier in the 7th Canadian Cavalry Field Ambulance (Canadian Cavalry Brigade) in WWI. He fought in France and received the Military Medal for evacuation of wounded during the Battle of Rifle Wood on April 1, 1918. Thank you > > Hugh Whitney > > > > ==== CAN-ONT-CARLETON Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the CAN-ONT-CARLETON list, send the ommand "unsubscribe" to CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or CAN-ONT-CARLETON-D-request@rootsweb.com if Digest mode > CAN-ONT-CARLETON-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== CAN-ONT-CARLETON Mailing List ==== > List Admin for CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L: > Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > ==== CAN-ONT-CARLETON Mailing List ==== Have YOU signed a petition today? The 1911 census records may contain data about your ancestors or break down your "brick wall" - http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/ ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Shirley: I noticed your reply about Richard Henry Langford. I was wondering if you were related to the following family: Charlotte 1853-1940 (nee Downey) and John Langford 1840-1921. Their children: William, Thomas, Minnie, and Mary. According to the 1901 census there was no Richard Henry as a child. My Langfords were from the Carleton township of Ontario. Charlotte and John are buried in St Thomas Anglican Cemetery. Charlotte is my great grandmother's sister. I look forward to hearing from you. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shirley MacNutt" <shirleymacnutt@yahoo.ca> To: <CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 9:25 PM Subject: Re: [Can-Ont-Carleton] Richard Henry Langford - Canadian WWI soldier - born in Carleton Place - 1890 > Hi Hugh > > I know I answered your post last time you asked but with the further info that you sent (siblings) I believe this is my Langford family. I have a Samuel Silas Langford but he shows up on the Census as Silas S. Langford. His 2nd wife was Emma Rogan but before that he was married to Mary Crain. I have Richard's birthdate as Feb 3, 1890. I didn't know where he was born aside from Ontario. He would have been my great grandfather's cousin. Silas was a blacksmith and he's on the 1901 Census on Concession Street in Ottawa (what is now Bronson Street I think). I don't have any information for you about his service but I can give you his parents and grandparents (on both sides) info. I don't have a death date for Mary Crain. A few of the Langford's married into the Crain family of Merrickville. > > Shirley MacNutt - BC Canada > > Hugh Whitney <hwhitney@warp.nfld.net> wrote: > I would like to repeat a request made a number of months ago: > > I am looking for information on a Richard Henry Langford, born on February 3rd, 1890 in Carleton Place, son of Silas and Mary Langford, brother James R. and sisters Mabel G., and Mildred M. He was a soldier in the 7th Canadian Cavalry Field Ambulance (Canadian Cavalry Brigade) in WWI. He fought in France and received the Military Medal for evacuation of wounded during the Battle of Rifle Wood on April 1, 1918. Thank you > > Hugh Whitney > > > > ==== CAN-ONT-CARLETON Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the CAN-ONT-CARLETON list, send the ommand "unsubscribe" to CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or CAN-ONT-CARLETON-D-request@rootsweb.com if Digest mode > CAN-ONT-CARLETON-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== CAN-ONT-CARLETON Mailing List ==== > List Admin for CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L: > Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Hi Hugh I know I answered your post last time you asked but with the further info that you sent (siblings) I believe this is my Langford family. I have a Samuel Silas Langford but he shows up on the Census as Silas S. Langford. His 2nd wife was Emma Rogan but before that he was married to Mary Crain. I have Richard's birthdate as Feb 3, 1890. I didn't know where he was born aside from Ontario. He would have been my great grandfather's cousin. Silas was a blacksmith and he's on the 1901 Census on Concession Street in Ottawa (what is now Bronson Street I think). I don't have any information for you about his service but I can give you his parents and grandparents (on both sides) info. I don't have a death date for Mary Crain. A few of the Langford's married into the Crain family of Merrickville. Shirley MacNutt - BC Canada Hugh Whitney <hwhitney@warp.nfld.net> wrote: I would like to repeat a request made a number of months ago: I am looking for information on a Richard Henry Langford, born on February 3rd, 1890 in Carleton Place, son of Silas and Mary Langford, brother James R. and sisters Mabel G., and Mildred M. He was a soldier in the 7th Canadian Cavalry Field Ambulance (Canadian Cavalry Brigade) in WWI. He fought in France and received the Military Medal for evacuation of wounded during the Battle of Rifle Wood on April 1, 1918. Thank you Hugh Whitney ==== CAN-ONT-CARLETON Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from the CAN-ONT-CARLETON list, send the ommand "unsubscribe" to CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or CAN-ONT-CARLETON-D-request@rootsweb.com if Digest mode CAN-ONT-CARLETON-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Thank you to those who replied to my request. I will follow each suggestion as far as it takes me. Hugh Whitney

Please try CAN-ONT-LANARK-L@rootsweb.com If you wish to subscribe, use CAN-ONT-LANARK-L-request@rootsweb.com One word only ----- subscribe IN SUBJECT LINE Muriel M. Davidson -- muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca List Admin - CAN-ONT-CARLETON mail lists ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron & Mary Harris" <r_harris@sympatico.ca> To: <CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [Can-Ont-Carleton] Richard Henry Langford - Canadian WWI soldier - born in Carleton Place - 1890 > Hi Hugh, > > Other list members will correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure this > isn't the correct list for you. Carleton Place, despite the misleading > name, isn't in Carleton County! I believe it is in Lanark County, for which > rootsweb has a list you could join. > > Haven't checked them out myself, but there is a www.carletonplace.com & a > www.carletonplace.ca > > Happy Hunting. > > Mary > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hugh Whitney" <hwhitney@warp.nfld.net> > To: <CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 5:48 AM > Subject: [Can-Ont-Carleton] Richard Henry Langford - Canadian WWI soldier - > born in Carleton Place - 1890 > > > >I would like to repeat a request made a number of months ago: > > > > I am looking for information on a Richard Henry Langford, born on February > > 3rd, 1890 in Carleton Place, son of Silas and Mary Langford, brother James > > R. and sisters Mabel G., and Mildred M. He was a soldier in the 7th > > Canadian Cavalry Field Ambulance (Canadian Cavalry Brigade) in WWI. He > > fought in France and received the Military Medal for evacuation of wounded > > during the Battle of Rifle Wood on April 1, 1918. > > > > Thank you > > > > Hugh Whitney > > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

Hi Hugh, Other list members will correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure this isn't the correct list for you. Carleton Place, despite the misleading name, isn't in Carleton County! I believe it is in Lanark County, for which rootsweb has a list you could join. Haven't checked them out myself, but there is a www.carletonplace.com & a www.carletonplace.ca Happy Hunting. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hugh Whitney" <hwhitney@warp.nfld.net> To: <CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 5:48 AM Subject: [Can-Ont-Carleton] Richard Henry Langford - Canadian WWI soldier - born in Carleton Place - 1890 >I would like to repeat a request made a number of months ago: > > I am looking for information on a Richard Henry Langford, born on February > 3rd, 1890 in Carleton Place, son of Silas and Mary Langford, brother James > R. and sisters Mabel G., and Mildred M. He was a soldier in the 7th > Canadian Cavalry Field Ambulance (Canadian Cavalry Brigade) in WWI. He > fought in France and received the Military Medal for evacuation of wounded > during the Battle of Rifle Wood on April 1, 1918. > > Thank you > > Hugh Whitney > > > > ==== CAN-ONT-CARLETON Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the CAN-ONT-CARLETON list, send the ommand > "unsubscribe" to CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) > or CAN-ONT-CARLETON-D-request@rootsweb.com if Digest mode > CAN-ONT-CARLETON-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

Have you checked the 1911 census? Deb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hugh Whitney" <hwhitney@warp.nfld.net> To: <CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 5:48 AM Subject: [Can-Ont-Carleton] Richard Henry Langford - Canadian WWI soldier - born in Carleton Place - 1890 > I would like to repeat a request made a number of months ago: > > I am looking for information on a Richard Henry Langford, born on February 3rd, 1890 in Carleton Place, son of Silas and Mary Langford, brother James R. and sisters Mabel G., and Mildred M. He was a soldier in the 7th Canadian Cavalry Field Ambulance (Canadian Cavalry Brigade) in WWI. He fought in France and received the Military Medal for evacuation of wounded during the Battle of Rifle Wood on April 1, 1918. > > Thank you > > Hugh Whitney > > > > ==== CAN-ONT-CARLETON Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the CAN-ONT-CARLETON list, send the ommand "unsubscribe" to CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or CAN-ONT-CARLETON-D-request@rootsweb.com if Digest mode > CAN-ONT-CARLETON-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

I would like to repeat a request made a number of months ago: I am looking for information on a Richard Henry Langford, born on February 3rd, 1890 in Carleton Place, son of Silas and Mary Langford, brother James R. and sisters Mabel G., and Mildred M. He was a soldier in the 7th Canadian Cavalry Field Ambulance (Canadian Cavalry Brigade) in WWI. He fought in France and received the Military Medal for evacuation of wounded during the Battle of Rifle Wood on April 1, 1918. Thank you Hugh Whitney

A blank 1911 census form is available for downloading at http://allcensusrecords.com/canada/ontario/ontario1911.shtml This is AllCensusRecords.com -- on will need Adobe Acrobat for the download, and I would presume 8 1/2 by 14 paper. Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee

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Very interesting reading about the poor quality of the 1911 census records. Muriel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Holmes" <holmcon@compusmart.ab.ca> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 11:21 AM Subject: [CCC] Re: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D Digest V05 #187 > I have been reading the introductory sections on the LAC website. > > My understanding is that ALL the schedules were destroyed after ONLY the > Schedule 1 was microfilmed. > > Ian Holmes > > The following text is on the web site: > ictionary of Canadian Biography Online Census of Canada, 1911 > ArchiviaNet: On-line Research Tool > Introduction and Contextual Help > > 1911 Census: the Event and the Records* > The Event > > <snipped> > The enumeration effort and the data published were all based on census > documents known as schedules. Originally, thirteen schedules, or pages > of census questions, were compiled: > > 1. Population > 2. Mortality, Disability and Compensation > 3. Houses, Buildings and Fruit > 4. Field Crops - Agriculture - Grain and Other Field Crops for the > Harvest Year 1910 > 5. Agriculture - Hoed Crops, Tobacco, Hops and Grass Seeds in 1910 > and Field Crop Areas in 1911 > 6. Agriculture - Animal and Animal Products > 7. Farm and Urban Values > 8. Forest Products > 9. Manufactures > 10. Churches, Schools, etc. > 11. Fisheries > 12. Dairy Factories > 13. Mineral Products > > 1911 Census records at Library and Archives Canada > > In 1955, the Dominion Bureau of Statistics sought authority from the > Public Records Committee (PRC) to destroy the paper census schedules. > After consultation, the PRC agreed to the destruction, on the condition > that the population schedules be microfilmed. As a result, a microfilm > copy is the only archival holding of the population schedules from the > 1911 census. The microfilming of these records was not of consistent > quality and not all images are decipherable. Unfortunately, the > destruction of the paper records means that there is no recourse when a > record is unreadable. > > The reels include all completed Schedule 1 ("Population") forms. When > microfilming, however, columns 38 to 41 of Schedule 1 (questions related > to infirmities) were lost on approximately 75 percent of the reels. > > On each microfilm reel, researchers will find a title page listing the > year of the census (1911), the name of the province, the district number > and name, the sub-district number and name and the number of pages in > the grouping. > > The digitized copies of the census schedules found on the Library and > Archives Web site were made by scanning the microfilms of the 1911 > census. Because the digitized versions are exact copies, a page that was > indecipherable on microfilm is still indecipherable on a computer > screen. The introductory pages from the microfilm which identify the > year of the census, the name of the province, name and number of the > district and sub-district and the number of pages are not visible > online. > ------------------------------------------------------ > > > Subject: Schedules > > Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:09:43 -0700 > > From: Stu White <swhite21@shaw.ca> > > To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com Is there a schedule 2 to still be posted? For those rare occasions where I know the address, the schedule 2 would prove invaluable. I have looked through this archives and if this was previously asked I missed it. Stu

This afternoon, possibly due to a power shortage in Toronto, I was unable to open the internet -- instead, I started on a needed post-census cleaning -- The following from the South Shore Genealogist Society in Lunenburg is one items I had saved. Just a bit of history!!! Note the ancient email address! Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Brampton, ON -- formerly Nova Scotia ===================== The following article was found during a “house-cleaning” task of sorting old papers -- The South Shore Genealogical Society newsletter of Jan. 18, 1999 =============================================== Census Taking in 1911 The Weekly News, Lunenburg, June 1, 1911 Canada’s numbering will be an elaborate work. It costs something to take the census in Canada. The Appropriation for the purpose is $1,000,000. But Mr. Archibald Blue, the Census Commissioner, says that the cost would exceed this amount. The commissioners have been appointed and their names will soon be announced. There are 220 in all. Three permanent officers of the Census Bureau will be assigned to meet the commissioners at various convenient points through the Dominican. There will probably be four or five meeting places in Ontario and the same number in Quebec. There will be one meeting place in the Maritime Provinces and one in each of the western provinces. The instructions to the enumerators will be given in May. The latter have not, as yet, been appointed. Actual work on the census will be commenced June 1, 1911. It has been arranged that the factors or district managers of the Hudson Bay Co. will take the census at the different stations of this company and one of the principal officers of the company has been appointed a commissioner. The Indian agents of the Government will take the census at Indian agencies. They will receive instructions direct from the Census Bureau and report to it instead of to the Department of Indian Affairs. At the last census there were 93,400 full-blooded Indians in Canada and 34,481 half-breeds. It is expected that the aborigines, while not showing any great increase will be able to hold their own. While the population of Canada will be found in the cities, rapid strides have been made in the rural districts of Ontario and the West. The Provinces of Saskatchewan and Alberta will, it is expected, show the greatest increase. Manitoba will show a substantial gain, but the province is a comparatively small one and a large portion of it has been settled for years. ======================================================== The 1911 Canadian Census is the one WE have had released. I do not know the writer of the above article, but the name of the paper was given. Muriel M. Davidson farquhar@netcom.ca NOW muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca <http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html> NOW http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/post1901census.com

I have also checked the site -- have posted all 42 questions which form the column headings. If a reader does not receive this, please let me know. The images seem to be clearer and if that was the reason electrical work was done, let's say THANKS! Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Brampton, ON -- formerly Nova Scotia http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/post1901census.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:57 PM Subject: Post 1901 Census -- LAC up and running Greetings All. Following a weekend during which power was cut to the LAC building housing the servers containing our Historic Census records, all has been restored and we are once again able to access the new online records of the 1911 (and other) Census records. In our haste to access the 1911 records that were made accessible online on 21 July, many researchers, including myself, missed the notice on the LAC website that gave advance notice that electrical power in the LAC building would be shut down on 24, 25 July. The result was many messages of frustration and complaint. Even though things have now been restored and may in fact be better than they were before, if sufficient researchers attempt to access the records at the same time, we can expect some possible delay in accessing the information we seek. Should that happen, the best we can suggest is to have a cup of coffee (or your beverage of choice), and try again later. Be patient. Things should settle down after the initial rush to access the records. As I suggested in an earlier post, before trying to access the records, everyone should read the information provided by LAC at http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/1911/index-e.html Doing so may answer many of your questions before you ask them. Can't find the records for your area of interest? A search of the LAC database of Post Offices and Postmasters may be helpful in finding out what schedule to look for. This database is located at http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/020109_e.html Use the search engine to input the town and province of your place of interest. If it had a Post Office it will return information regarding the history of that office and the Postmasters that served in it. If your search makes a hit, at the bottom of the page, under the heading of "Additional Information" there will be information you may find helpful. In many cases it will tell you the Section, Township and Range information needed to assist in finding which Census schedule to seek. Bear in mind that the information in this database is based on Electoral Districts which may, or may not, correspond to the Census districts. It should however, give you a hint to what Census schedules you should be looking for. Enjoy the Census! Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted

To all:- The 1911 Census site has the "CLOSED" sign removed and is at 1911 Census http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/1911/index-e.html The many questions asked on the 1911 census are a total of 42, with explanations given following the questions at http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/1911/006003-100.04-e.html#c A brief list, without explanations follows:- [Personal notes] 1. Dwelling House 2. Family, Household or Institution 3. Name of each person in Family, Household or Institution 4. Place of Habitation [Note: Place names may have changed] 5. Sex 6. Relationship to Head of Family or Household 7. Single, Married, Widowed, Divorced or Legally Separated 8. Month of Birth [Date not given] 9. Year of Birth 10. Age at Last Birthday [Census taken June 1, 1911] 11. Country of Place of Birth (If Canadian, province or territory) 12. Year of Immigration to Canada, if an Immigrant 13. Year of Naturalization, if formerly an Alien 14. Racial or Tribal Origin 15. Nationality 16. Religion 17. Chief Occupation or Trade 18. Employment other than Chief Occupation, if any 19. Employer 20. Employee 21. Working on Own Account 22. State where Person is Employed as "on Farm", "in Woolen Mill", "at Foundry Shop", "in Drug Store", etc. 23. Weeks Employed in 1910 at Chief Occupation or Trade 24. Weeks Employed in 1910 at other than Chief Occupation or Trade, if any 25. Hours of Working Time per Week at Chief Occupation 26. Hours of Working Time per week at Other Occupation, if any 27. Total Earnings in 1910 from Chief Occupation or Trade 28. Toral Earnings in 1910 from other than Chief Occupation or Trade, if any 29. Rate of Earnings per Hour when Employed by the Hour -- Cents 30. Upon Life $ 31. Against Accident or Sickness $ 32. Cost of Insurance in Census Year $ 33. Months at School in 1910 34. Can Read 35. Can Write 36. Lanuage Commonly Spoken [chart given of languages] 37. Cost of Education in 1910 for Persons over 16 Years of Age at College, Convent or University [Education and Language entries only for those five years of age and older] 38. Blind 39. Deaf and Dumb 40. Crazy or Lunatic 41. Deaf and Dumb NOT to be entered 42. Idiotic or Silly [Numbers given for above categories] My grandmother kept notes of all family entries on the 1911 census!!! Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Brampton, ON -- formerly Nova Scotia http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/post1901census.htm

My apologies to those on this list. The original poster and question was back in the fall of 2004. I love a challenge and started digging with the intent to send out my curious findings right then. Well, I saved the message and forgot to send it later on. Sending now, in case it is any help to anyone??? I have no connections to Beaupre name, but love to go looking for bits and pieces....using my online links firstly. Cheers Jennifer Flegg Almonte, ON regarding Louise/Louisa using the surname in 1871 census search, using Ottawa as the place, there are 4 results: BEAUPRE , HONORE 26 QUEBEC OTTAWA St. George's Ward 2 BEAUPRE , VICTOR 23 QUEBEC OTTAWA By Ward 3 BEAUPRE , VICTOR 30 QUEBEC OTTAWA By Ward 4 BEAUPRE , ELIZABETH 29 QUEBEC OTTAWA Ottawa Ward any of which could be her parents.(assuming they were still living in "Ottawa" in 1871, and assuming they were still there in 1881) BUT, you then search the 1881 and see who's left.....its not ideal, but Marie Eliza BEAUPRE <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1881CN_546652_3&frompage=5> Female French 43 Q <Quebec> Catholique Ottawa Ward, Ottawa, Carleton, Ontario Eva BEAUPRE <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1881CN_546940_55&frompage=5> Female French 5 O <Ontario> Orphelin Catholique Ottawa Ward, Ottawa, Carleton, Ontario (in an orphanage, with a large number of children of different ages.) Louise BEAUPRE <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1881CN_546941_68&frompage=5> Female French 5 O <Ontario> Orphelin Catholique (same as Eva above. These 2 Beaupre children are in the same orphanage.) and so is Stanislas BEAUPRE <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1881CN_546942_80&frompage=5> Male French 7 O <Ontario> Orphelin Catholique Question to me would be, are they siblings? Not necessarily, but they could be?? Leads to other interesting ?'s

Sincere apologies to all subscribers on the list -- I should have notified all, but have been very busy answering complaints and queries. Sincerely hope the following thought is correct: The electrical work this weekend was to boost power before we ATTACKED it in our search for ancestors. That the announcement was made prematurely -- not by myself, and not from an official source. We will all see what happens on Monday. Should anyone like to be added to the committee, with no work, so all messages will be received, let me know. However, as list administrator of CAN-ONT-CARLETON list I generally post messages to the Canadian lists I have, which include two obituary lists, three northern ones, four in Manitoba, and several others -- let's not forget CAN-ONT-SIMCOE!!! Muriel -- List Admin http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/post1901census.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "M.G.Zavadiuk" <mmggzz@yahoo.com> To: <CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 9:05 PM Subject: [Can-Ont-Carleton] National Archives this weekend & 1911 census unavailable? Good evening folks; I found the reason we can't access the census records this weekend. The following notice appears here: http://www.collectionscanada.ca/whats-new/013-234-e.html Notice to Clients Library and Archives Canada will be closed 23 and 24 July 2005. Library and Archives Canada will close its doors for the weekend to allow work to be done on electrical installations. There will be no electricity in the building during these days. I guess our census research will have to wait until Monday. :( Marilyn Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse?

Good evening folks; I found the reason we can't access the census records this weekend. The following notice appears here: http://www.collectionscanada.ca/whats-new/013-234-e.html Notice to Clients Library and Archives Canada will be closed 23 and 24 July 2005. Library and Archives Canada will close its doors for the weekend to allow work to be done on electrical installations. There will be no electricity in the building during these days. I guess our census research will have to wait until Monday. :( Marilyn Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

To all:- The following LONG message should be printed and I have combined two messages together, rather than post two different ones. Gordon and I have had many queries -- and although we want to find our people ASAP, let's get organized over the weekend -- let's just be thankful it is only electrical maintenance! Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 2:37 PM Subject: Post 1901 Census -- Accessing 1911 Census records of Canada Message No. 1:- Greetings All. Library and Archives Canada, without any formal announcement or fanfare, made records of the 1911 National Census of Canada accessible online on 21 July 2005. Since posting to the mail lists regarding this Muriel and I have received many messages of thanks and congratulations, and stories of success in finding family that had until now eluded 'capture'. We look forward to hearing of many more successes. In the last 24 hours however, messages have changed to ones of complaint about being unable to access the LAC website, or once having accessed the website, being unable to access the schedules they want. The major reason for the problems of access people are having is that the servers housing these webpages are VERY, VERY BUSY!!! If you are getting responses that "The page connot be displayed", there is little point in sitting there continuing to try. The best advice we can give when this happens is to go away, give it some time, and try again later -- perhaps late in the evening or early in the morning. Remember that we are not dealing here with only people in Canada and the time zones they live in, but others from many other countries and time zones. It may be difficult to do after the long wait we have had, but I suggest having a little patience! One lister reported that servers were down because of power problems that were being worked on. I do not know where this information came from, but this morning I have been able to access the main pages of LAC without problem, although I have yet to successfully access any of the schedules that interest me. In my view this is due entirely to the large volume of people trying to access the records. Other questions are "How do I ......?"; "Where do I find......?"; "Why can't I.......?". In their haste to go straight to the scanned images and start searching for relatives, it would seem that most people are ignoring the very good information LAC has provided to assist those searching the records. Most of the questions we are being asked are answered in this information if only searchers take the time to read it. In my view, LAC has outdone themselves in the information they have provided to make it easy for us. On the main page for the 1911 Census at http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/1911/index-e.html there is a link to "Introduction and Contextual Help". There is a wealth of information there to advise how to search the records, how to interpret the records (including an excellent explanation of the column headings), and a MrSid Help page. Before asking Muriel or myself "How do I.....?", we ask that you PLEASE read the information provided by LAC. MrSID vs PDF For the 1911 Census LAC has provided scans in both MrSID and PDF formats. Both have their advantages and disadvantages. While the images in both can be enlarged for easier viewing, many are complaining that when enlarging PDF images, they are not clear -- being fuzzy in appearance. Be aware that in PDF format, enlarging the image does only that -- it enlarges the image without changing the resolution. As a result, if the original image is fuzzy to start with, enlarging it does nothing to eliminate the fuzziness. On the other hand, MrSID changes the resolution when enlarging the image and so may on occasion be the better image to view. I can only suggest trying both, and use whichever image you find is better for you. Importing the image into a graphics/photographic program may allow you to enhance an otherwise poor quality image. Most of these programs will allow you to adjust the brightness, contrast and sharpness of an image and doing so may make it more readable. This is something that you are going to have to do for yourself -- do not expect LAC to do it -- it won't happen. INDEXING THE 1911 The 1911 Census records, as with the 1901 and 1906 records, are not searchable by name. They are searchable only by geographic locations. Nominal indexing is not something that will be done by LAC. A number of genealogy societies and groups have indicated intentions to compile nominal indexes for their area of interest. For example, the Alberta Family History Society ((http://www.afhs.ab.ca/) and the Alberta Genealogy Society (http://abgensoc.ca/) have indicated they will work together to index the 1911 Census for Alberta. While they have not announced it, I assume the British Columbia Genealogical Society (of which I am a member) will be indexing the BC records and very likely the OGS and/or its many chapters will be getting on board for Ontario. Others have indicated indexing/transcribing the records for their own area of interest. For the 1901 and 1906 Census records, the only place that I know of that did a nominal index of the ENTIRE Census was Automated Genealogy. As with other indexing projects this was accomplished by the use of a great many volunteers. I am aware that Automated Genealogy has indicated their intention to do the same for the 1911 Census, however as I write this I have not yet found any reference to getting started on their website at http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/index.html For those interested in volunteering to do indexing/transcribing for their own specific area I would suggest contacting the genealogy society for your area of interest. Message #2:- Subsequent to my earlier post regarding online access to 1911 Census records I have been contacted by the lister who stated that there were power problems at LAC and that is why there has been difficulty accessing these records. Vivian advises that she made a telephone call to Library and Archives Canada and was told by staff there that electricity in the building housing the Census servers would be turned off on 23 and 24 July and as a result none of the online Census records will be available on those days. It will likely affect other databases as well. My suggestion to all is to take the time to enjoy the weekend -- go to the beach, have a picnic, go for a drive in the country -- and try again on Monday. Once again in closing -- have a little patience -- you will eventually get connected to the records you seek. Enjoy the Census! Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted

What is the Url for the 1911 census and can anyone access it? Steve. -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer Flegg <rootseeker@sympatico.ca> To: CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 08:13:34 -0400 Subject: [Can-Ont-Carleton] 1911 trouble? Anyone else having trouble accessing the records online? I have the correct site, and when I ask it to search for the region I want, I get a message saying it cannot find the data4.collectionscanada.ca server...which is the one it goes to when you press the search button or enter. I know it is likely busy, but I have tried at all times for the last 2 days, no luck. I have restarted my computer too....to eliminate any silly prob's with my system. I've written the web site itself.....to see if they are aware of, or are fixing a server issue. I just wondered if anyone else has had the same problem. Cheers Jennifer Flegg ==== CAN-ONT-CARLETON Mailing List ==== Remember -- no query is ever too small, someone may have the answer to add to your family group sheets ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx