Alison, I notice you probably live in or near Akron Ohio. Perhaps you can find this listing for yourself through a LDS History Centre near you. LDS has all indexes for Ontario BMD and all registrations up to a fairly recent date, and this is where I get all my ON BMD's. Hope this will be helpful to you. Molly -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.4/109 - Release Date: 09/21/2005

To all:- It does not seem possible that Parliament will resume on this coming Monday -- no Speech from the Throne, but it could be interesting. At least we do not have census release to think about but there are bills in both the House of Commons and Senate in which many might be interested. At least, our soon-to-be former Governor-General left us with a long overdue challenge cup -- for the best women's hockey team! Our Minister of Veteran's Affairs, Albina Guarnieri DOES answer her mail -- I had occasion to ask her about "how many years makes one a veteran". Today I received a beautiful postcard, 2 - 0 - 0 - 5, Year of the Veteran / Année de l'ancien combattant The card is beautiful with well-known poppy and gold maple leaf. The 1911 census, the last one prior to World War One, was passed June 28, 2005 and many have written to me that their ancestor's family was online -- many did not return but the family is there, complete with the one who went overseas. YUKON is 100% transcribed!!!!!!! Which province or territory will be the next one? One thing I have noticed, a person might transcribe only ONE or two lines -- there are FIFTY lines on each page of the Canada-wide Automated Genealogy -- reachable at http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/ or http://automatedgenealogy.com/index.html [The FIFTY lines might need to be invented by clicking on Submit] Just follow the directions -- and if you goof, as I did, it can be changed before the proofreaders look over our work. Which province or territory will follow YUKON? We are not publishing very much in regular mail lists -- a gathering of items such as this, the column written by Gordon Watts, and other items -- many changes might be made on scoreboards. The Laugh of the Day:- I have never announced my middle name -- sort of dislike it but was too young to argue. The Opposition Party learned it some way -- plus a letter and request. [Not answered!!!] Either myself or Gordon Watts will assist strugglers with census transcribing, also we have at least eight blank census forms - just ask us. Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Brampton, ON -- formerly Nova Scotia http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census

Martha MCARTHUR was born about 1959 in Cumberland, Russell County. Her parents were John MCARTHUR and Ellen DALE. She ran a knitting factory in Ottawa for a number of years. I don't find her in the Ottawa city directories after 1890-91. I have been unable to find her in the census on either side of the border after that time so I wonder if she could have married. My sister met her in Seattle, Washington in 1929 so I know she was alive then. If someone has access to the Ontario marriage records I would appreciate a look-up for a marriage occuring around 1891. Thanks for any help you can give me, Alison

To all 1911 census researchers and transcribers:- I have already noticed that many of the women and girls are not called by their given name, but by loving nicknames. The following might assist you to possibly figure out the correct given name, e.g. Abby for Abigail [an example] http://www.abcgenealogy.com/cgi-bin/links/jump.cgi?ID=14533 Suggestion:- Please save the above URL as you work on the 1911 census -- there was another site, but it was too long. These are all helpful aids to complete the census records, especially the Automated Genealogy as this one is coast to coast. When at a page with sites in the lower left corner, click on the Library and Archives Canada -- a great deal of data for all. Enjoy our census records!!! Microfiche will be available soon. Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Brampton, ON http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/ or http://automatedgenealogy.com/index.html/

The Toronto Sun has picked up on the story of Dalton McGuinty hosting the 2004 meeting of provincial and territorial leaders at the "cheap"price of $775,000 plus a little bit. Try www.canoe.ca The small two-column story is on page 29, entitled THIS TALK NOT CHEAP The 2004 event was held at Niagara-on-the-Lake and the 2005 one, destined to add more money to health, was held in Alberta. Again, this is associated with Access to Information. Muriel ----- Original Message ----- > Hi Muriel - I have saved both the Sept 9th and there is another today > relating in a way to the issue of access to information. Under the title of > Ontarians geting hit a huge sum for the fuzzies of the Premiers meeting at > Niagara on the Lake. Would you like me to forward these to you. > Freda

I forgot to mention -- these articles have to be printed for safekeeping and later reading -- the newspaper changes every day. The article is near the bottom INFORMATION ACCESS COMES UNDER FIRE It can also be saved to disk. Muriel > To many who sent a note stating it was unavailable, > please try the following:- > > Search for http://www.thestar.com/ > > When the site appears and you may be asked for name and > email address -- click on CANADA in left upper corner. > > The story re Access to Information is there. > > Also, view the CARTOON -- priceless!! > > Any problems -- let me know, Sue and many others. > > Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca > Brampton, ON > List Admin: Simcoe, Carleton and Peel mail lists > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.21/96 - Release Date: 9/10/05 > >

To many who sent a note stating it was unavailable, please try the following:- Search for http://www.thestar.com/ When the site appears and you may be asked for name and email address -- click on CANADA in left upper corner. The story re Access to Information is there. Also, view the CARTOON -- priceless!! Any problems -- let me know, Sue and many others. Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Brampton, ON List Admin: Simcoe, Carleton and Peel mail lists

----- Original Message ----- From: <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 11:49 PM Subject: [CCC] [The Star Article] From gordon_watts@telus.net Thought you might be interested in this article from thestar.com. Thanks to Freda Stewart for bringing this to my attention. I find some of the comments parallel to our battle of the past 7 years. We will have to watch carefully that any new bill introduced does not take away existing references to access of Census records. Gordon A. Watts Information access comes under fire http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?agename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&call_pageid=971358637177&c=Article&cid=1126216214728&DPL=IvsNDS%2f7ChAX&tacodalogin=yes Fri Sep 09 23:49:12 EST 2005

Hello Muriel, One possibility: CODE: 589.685-098 Buy the DOT:Download/Diskettes/CD-ROM TITLE(s): WRINGER-MACHINE OPERATOR (leather mfg.; tex. prod., nec) alternate titles: extractor operator; extract wringer; putter-out, machine; roll-press operator; setter, machine; striker-out, machine; wringer and setter Tends machine that removes moisture or wrinkles from felt sheets or hides: Places material between rollers of machine and depresses pedal that rotates lower roller against upper roller to press moisture or smooth wrinkles from material. Releases pedal to separate rollers and stop machine. Removes material from rollers and places material on cart. May move controls to adjust rollers according to thickness of material. May be designated according to section of leather processed as Belly Wringer (leather mfg.); Crop-Setting-Out-Machine Operator (leather mfg.); or according to type of leather processed as Blue-Leather Setter (leather mfg.); Colored-Leather Setter (leather mfg.). May sponge water on hides before rolling to ensure uniformity of moisture content and be designated Sponger (leather mfg.). Dictionary of Occupational Titles Index http://theodora.com/dot_index.html#P Rob Doragh Liverpool UK Muriel M. Davidson <muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 Here is one occupation for those with knowledge of trades back in 1911:- What is a "putter" as in a shoe factory?

Here is one occupation for those with knowledge of trades back in 1911:- What is a "putter" as in a shoe factory? Muriel - muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>; Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 3:17 PM Subject: 1911 Census -- Column 18 numbers Greetings Gordon and All. I thought that I had posted about this earlier, but there may have been a problem when sending it from a location away from home. In any case, I copy here the pertinent information I received from LAC about the numbers in column 18 of the 1911 Census. ========================= The numbers in column 18 were entered by the individuals preparing the census with coding for mechanical tabulation. We will be adding further information (see draft version below) to our contextual help early in September. 1911 Census - Column 18 For the first time in 1911, information taken for the census was compiled by mechanical appliances. Perforated cards were used to record more accurately information on occupations, using codes. However, it seems that it was not a great success and the system was changed in 1921. The use of this code is reflected in column 18. Genealogists will see numbers separated by hyphens. Example : 6-0-32, 6-6-32 or 6-9-32. The first part of the code refers to one of the general main divisions of occupations or industries as follows : 0 All agricultural 1 Building trades 2 Domestic and personal service 3 Civil and municipal government 4 Fishing and hunting 5 Forestry and lumbering 6 Manufactures - mechanical and textiles 7 Manufactures - Food and clothing 8 Mining 9 Professional 10 Trade and Merchandising 11 Transportation The second part of the code refers to the class of worker 0 Self-employed or owner of the business 6 Receiving wages 9 Employee The third part of the code refers to the trade. The numbers are from the "Index to occupations" based on the results of the Fourth census of Canada (1901). This publication apparently gave a list of the codes; however, we have been unable to locate this publication.. We have determined that number 32 is a blacksmith and 00 a farmer. ======================= Subsequent to receiving this information, I have been compiling a list of occupation codes that I have identified from viewing the 1911 Census schedules and have identified about 100 occupations so far. There appear to be classes of occupations as there is occasionally more than one occupation given for a specific code. I will shortly try to put this information into a form suitable for downloading and will place a link to it on the Post 1901 Census project website. As I am able to identify further occupations I will update the file on the website. I will be unable to work on this in the coming week so do not look for it yet. I will post when it has been added to the website. While LAC identified only three numbers for the second part of the code, I have so far noted on the schedules, every number between 0 and 9, with the exception of 1 and 4. These numbers obviously have some further references to different classes of workers but I have yet to identify them. Some possibilities would include 'civil servants', 'municipal worker' etc. I will be spending some time in the Vancouver Public Library, and the library of Simon Fraser University, in an effort to find the publication referred to by my contact in LAC. The logical explanation for the code 'NG' is 'not given' or 'none given'. In relation to column 18 this notation is most often shown for children under the age of 10, or wives of the head of household, who are shown as students or not employed. It does occasionally show up in other columns where other information under the general heading would indicate that the column in which 'NG' appears is not applicable to the individual being looked at. Enjoy the Census! Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted

To all:- The political part of our campaign for release of our census records ended June 29, 2005 -- both Gordon and I will accept questions and also names and addresses of those who wish to be added to our special lists. We are not using regular mail lists except for special notices like Gordon's column. Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Brampton, ON -- formerly Nova Scotia ======= ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 4:25 PM Subject: Gordon Watts Reports Greetings All. The lastest of my e-columns for the Global Gazette has just been posted online. With this issue the name of the column has been changed from "Post 1901 Census News" to "Gordon Watts Reports". While I will continue to report on items relating to Census, the focus of the column has been expanded to include items of general or specific items of genealogical or historical interest. Items in this column include: An Anniversary, A change in direction, Message from Librarian and Archivist of Canada, Reporting errors to LAC, Census extraction forms, Transcribing or indexing Census records, and Announcements from LAC. Those interested may access my column at http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/gazgw/gazgw-0075.htm Your comments and suggestions regarding articles for future columns are welcome. Please send them directly to me at gordon_watts@telus.net Have a great day! Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted

My grandmother's sister Margaret (Maude) McGuire married John Cromwell Cox in Ottawa in 1900. J. Cromwell Cox, Maud McGuire his wife, and her sister Catherine McGuire are in the 1901 Ottawa census. J. Cromwell Cox (son of Robert Montgomery Cox of Robt. Cox and Co, lumber exporters) is listed in the directories in Ottawa until 1922. I believe I found him in the 1930 California census with another wife, Myra. They immigrated and were married about 1923. My question is: what happened to Margaret McGuire Cox? Her brothers obituary in 1935 does not mention her among his siblings and none of my 2nd cousins still in Ottawa remember hearing anything about her. I am assuming she died sometime between 1901 and 1922. If anyone has access to the Ottawa death records index, I would appreciate a lookup for Margaret McGuire Cox, wife of John C. Cox. Any other ideas about how to find information about her would be appreciated as well. Mary Dain

Thanks Wayne for the extra site. It is grat and covers almost everything!! I would prefer NO DISCUSSIONS re Katrina -- there is enough on TV but helpful hints are welcomed. For Canadians who want to help, the CBC website at http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/katrina/ lists several organizations that are supporting the relief operation. They can spend the money on hat is needed. Rootsweb has also opened a site http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=hurricanekatrina2005&m=1 Please follow above request re discussions. Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca ----- Original Message ----- From: "wcook" <wcook@rogers.com> To: <ONTARIO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [ONT] Re- "We Care" Packages to "Katrina Survivors" - Off Topic How to help http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/31/AR2005083101758.html?g=1 Wayne Cook http://www.waynecook.com (A History Television Approved Site) Host for the Simcoe County Genweb site at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml Ontario, Canada Host for the Parry Sound Muskoka Genweb site at http://www.waynecook.com/parrysound.html 1. Historic Plaques of Ontario 1,384 Plaques online http://www.waynecook.com 2. The Canadian Query Boards at http://www.waynecook.com/bulletin.html 3. Tombstone Territory (online gravemarkers in Simcoe County) http://www.waynecook.com/Tombstone_Territory.html

To all:- [ Suggest this memo be printed and may be forwarded] Many of us have ancestors in all parts of the world, but the main interest now is locating the ones appearing on the Canadian census records of 1901, 1906 and as of June 29, 2005, the 1911 census. These last records, 1911 to 2001, will be made available to us at five year intervals with a great deal of data at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census The release of these records is due to a very determined, hard-working Senator Lorna Milne -- and also to Murray Calder when he was a Member of Parliament. The campaign started March 15, 1999. The first census AID received were IMAGES of the 1911 census -- http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/1911/index-e.html although hard to read at times, these are being transcribed by many, both in Canada and United States, being stored on sites, for example Lunenburg County census records http://www.rootsweb.com/~canns/lunenburg/census.html Lindsay Patton has again made Automated Genealogy available -- the many places in Canada are being transcribed. One signs in, claims the page, and up pops the 1911 (or other) image. [I use a magnifying glass and increase size of writing by clicking on the + sign at the top bar of the census image]. http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/ All finished submitted pages should have 50 lines even if one has to manufacture extra lines -- makes it easier for Lindsay Patton. A real PLUS -- When at the Automated Genealogy site, scroll down to the bottom left, there are three sites, including Libraries and Archives Canada -- have the speakers on!!! The other two sites -- these are links to veteran sites and others. For those searching the 1901 census, one will find Alberta, Saskatchewan and the Territories listed as The Territories. The 1901 and 1906 (three western provinces) are being finished by volunteers from Alberta and otherwise. [See Map URL below] On the 1911 census, Nunavut is included under NorthWest Territories as separation was about 10 years ago. People researching Newfoundland use the Grand Banks site as this is a new province as of 1949. It is suggested, when searching for people from Newfoundland, search could be done in the Cape Breton Island areas, due to employment. In addition, Canada has evolved over the years from 1740 and this can only be shown by maps - Historical Maps of Canada, etc. http://atlas.gc.ca/site/english/maps/historical At one time, New Brunswick was part of Nova Scotia until about 1786, Maine's border was the Passamaquoddy River, and Amherst was the dividing place -- "location where the waters almost meet". Microfiche at libraries might be available this month, but in the meantime, plain census forms are available at http://www.archivecdbooks.ca/downloads.html [scroll down] [If publicizing, please give credit to ones who provided forms -- I was only a contact]. Enjoy the weekend -- parents will enjoy quiet days next week!! A final note -- For Canadians who want to help, the CBC website at http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/katrina/ lists several organizations that are supporting the relief operation. They can spend the money on what is needed. Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Brampton, ON http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/post1901census.htm

----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty" <bbffrrpp@comcast.net> To: <NewBrunswick-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 6:59 AM Subject: [NB] "We Care" Packages to "Katrina Survivors" - Off Topic > Hello, > > I must be one of only of tens of millions of people SOOO Frustrated at > watching all the News programs of people .. dying in front of our eyes .. > while waiting for "drinking water" or any kind of liquid which is drinkable > to arrive at the Louisiana Superdome ! And, as of last night, two > "infants" have died of dehydration there ! > > This week I've already posted on the MA List that I would really like to go > by a 20-pack of ..Toilet Paper.. and ship it down there ! The more I > watch the News, though, I see where "basic human needs" go way beyond toilet > paper. They need FOOD and medicine. They need .. diapers and baby food > and formula .. and senior citizens need diapers, also ! They need > ..DRY.. clothes ... including undergarments ! > > How many of us have food, medicine, and "sanitary products" in our homes - > which we don't really need ? How many of us have clothes in our home > which we really don't need ! Do you have summer clothes you bought this > year which you might not wear next summer ? Those people in Louisiana > and Mississippi have probably been "living in" the same pair of shorts and > t-shirt and underwear .. for a week ! And, they probably arrived at > whereever they are being "sheltered" -- soaking wet ! > > My suggestion is to go to the supermarkets and/or stores and pick up their > unwanted cardboard boxes .. and start .. filling them up ! Or, I've > found out that "banker's boxes" at the office-supply stores are good for > sending packages. > > I went to www.switchboard.com and found out the address: > > > "Katrina Survivors" > c/o Louisiana Superdome > 1500 Poydras St > New Orleans, LA 70112 > > > OR, we could just send our "we care" packages to the following address: > > "Katrina Survivors" > c/o, the Postmaster > New Orleans, LA 70112 > > Even if the New Orleans Post Office has been destroyed, the packages should > go to their "regional Post Office" - and they can decide what to do with > them ! > > And, ... wouldn't it be nice .. if the United States Postal Service .. would > allow us to mail our "we care" packages ... for free ! > > And, the same goes for .. UPS .. and FED EX ... I had occasion to want > to use UPS to mail 2 packages at different times to Europe ... and I was > "SHOCKED" at how much they wanted to charge me ! $50 for a very small, > lightweight package, and $350 for a medium-heavy "banker's box." > > .... > I know very well that the "American Red Cross" NEEDS money, and they > "always" say ... DO NOT ..send "care packages." BUT ..... this is > different ! > > In our adult lifetime, we have not seen and heard about .. such wide-spread > DESTRUCTION .. and -- human need ! > > If you cannot send "we care" packages, then I have found that even > www.ebay.com is offering a way to "contribute" to the American Red > Cross - whether you are a Seller or a Buyer. > > I will be sending this message to other "State" Lists which I belong to ! > > Please feel free to pass my "request / suggestion" along to whichever Lists > you belong to ! > > A SEPARATE SUGGESTION? Sit down and write a letter to these families - > tell them we DO care ! Offer them as much sympathy as you can ! > > I'll bet that right now those 10,000 - Plus - people .. feel "totally > isolated" from the rest of their State - and definitely isolated from the > rest of the U.S. ! > > > And, please say a sincere prayer to "your Higher Being" .. that food and > drinking water .. get to "Katrina survivors" -- YESTERDAY ! And, not > arriving for the first time - this coming weekend ! > > Betty (near Lowell, MA) > > > > ==== NewBrunswick Mailing List ==== > Where county is Brunswick Parish in? Check here to find out. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nbparish.htm > Where is that town? Check the Canadian Geographical Names Data Base > http://geonames.nrcan.gc.ca/search/search_e.php > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/88 - Release Date: 9/1/05 > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 2:45 PM Subject: Re - [CCC] Letter from the Office of the Information Commissioner Greetings All. While the letter announcing the cessation of the legal action by the Information Commissioner on our behalf is disappointing, it was not unexpected. As with the legal action initiated for the 1906 Census, the release of the records removed the reason for the action. It would have been interesting to see what the courts would have said regarding that action. We are reasonably confident that had Bill S-18 not been passed before the court hearing was to take place that the clauses of the Access to Information and Privacy Acts, and Privacy Regulations, that clearly state that records of Census would be made available after 92 years, would have been upheld. However, as the saying goes nothing is certain except death and taxes. We are pleased that our efforts of the past seven years were 95% successful, and we thank the Information Commissioner for being willing to 'go to bat' on our behalf. Enjoy the Census! Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leland Harvie" <lharvie@ca.inter.net> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 3:45 AM Subject: Spam Alert: [CCC] Letter from the Office of the Information Commissioner Office of the Information Commissioner of Canada Legal Affairs 112 Kent Street Ottawa, Ontario K1A 1H3 August 18, 2005 Dear Madam / Sir: Subject: The Information Commissioner of Canada v. The Minister of Industry, Court file T-1996-04 ______________ As a result of the promulgation of Bill S-18 on June 29, 2005, the 1911 census records have been transferred by Statistics Canada to the care and control of Library and Archives Canada. The records have been available on-line since late July, at the following Internet address: http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/1911/index-e.html . As all the information you requested has been made publicly available, the Information Commissioner of Canada will be discontinuing the above Federal Court litigation. Should you wish to consult the paper(sic) records directly, please contact Library and Archives Canada at 1-866-578-7777. The records are expected to be available for viewing in September 2005 and the precise date will be announced on the above Library and Archives Canada website. Yours very truly, (signed) Daniel Brunet General Counsel

So far no space for Proofreader or Corrections, but the site is very workable. Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 12:46 PM Subject: [CCC] 1911 Census - Automated Genealogy Greetings All I am advised by Lindsay Patten that Automated Genealogy has finished the testing phase for its 1911 Census indexing project. Their servers have been upgraded to be able to handle an expected increase in workload. There is still work to be done with regard to the search facilities but there is nothing to hold people back from working on the indexing. Pages completed to date are able to be browsed, however they cannot as yet be searched by name, etc. Lindsay is still working on the search engines. Those interested in working on the AG indexes can access the website at www.automatedgenealogy.com Enjoy the Census! Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted

To all:- I have not encouraged people to duplicate census work, but instead many are asking WHERE should finished transcription be sent. I would like answers from all provinces -- then will post the same. Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Brampton, ON ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: <CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 9:18 PM Subject: 1911 Census -- transcribing or indexing records Greetings All. On the various mail lists the past while there has been considerable discussion regarding indexing and/or transcribing of Census records -- in particular at this time those of the 1911 Census of Canada. It would seem that some feel that there is only one correct way to transcribe or index these valuable records, and that their way, or the way of their particular group or organization, is the only way it should be done. As genealogical researchers the last thing we need or want to see develop is an antagonistic confrontation over this. There is no one single correct way to do it. There are as many correct ways to do it as there are opinions out there. For any given subject, there are many different ways of doing things and, from the point of view of every individual, each of those different ways has their own benefits and detractions. Do a websearch of any subject. Can you name any subject that will result in only a single response to that search? I think it unlikely! The same would apply to a search for Census or Census Indexing or Transcription. The Alberta Family History Society and the Alberta Genealogical Society are to be commended for their efforts in transcribing and/or indexing the 1901 and 1906 Censuses for Alberta, and for the 1911 projects they have now initiated. Likewise, the Ontario Genealogical Society, and every other group who has had volunteers doing similar projects are worthy of commendation. In my view the various groups and organizations who have done, and are currently doing, indexing and/or transcriptions of Census records are not in competition with each other. The work of one group will frequently complement the work of another. What others may view as a duplication of effort I view as a means of multiple cross-checking to ensure the greatest possibility of a researcher finding the ancestors they are seeking in Census. The more sources there are on the Internet for this information, the greater the chance of that happening. There is room for everyone out there. Many researchers have confused the terms "transcribing" and "transcriptions" with "indexes" and "indexing". The impression I have is that many believe they are one and the same. Such is not the case. By definition, a "transcription" is a verbatim copy of all information contained in an original document. An "index", on the other hand, is an extract of partial information from an original document, presented in such a way as to identify and point the way to where the original document might be found. Each has their own specific purpose. I believe that in doing our research there is need, and room, for both. Many different groups have volunteers indexing or transcribing Census records for their own particular area of interest. Some are doing their own town, city, area or municipality. Others are doing it for an entire Province. To my knowledge, Automated Genealogy is the only place that indexing is likely to take place for the entire Census of Canada. In volunteering to do transcribing or indexing, regardless of which group or organization you volunteer to work with, your work will be both appreciated and worthwhile. Enjoy the Census! Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Holmes" <holmcon@compusmart.ab.ca> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 10:13 PM Subject: 1901 and 1906 Census Finding Aids Muriel, Please be advised that AFHS comments refer to the 1906 census. AFHS (the Alberta Family Histories Society) has sponsored an effort to TRANSCRIBE the 1906 census for the prairie provinces and have reported their progress in a recent message to this forum. In an earlier effort the AGS (the Alberta Genealogical Society) volunteers did a very comprehensive job of INDEXING the 1901 census for that area of the Territories which became the prairie provinces in 1905. This work preceded the work of Automated Genealogy in this area and included extensive proof reading and cross checking of dubious data against other sources. The results of the AGS work are available free on the Internet at: http://www.agsedm.edmonton.ab.ca/1901census/ I think you will find both the information and the search engine used to find names is as good as any available elsewhere. Isn't it quite unnecessary to encourage volunteers to duplicate work done so thoroughly by others? Ian Holmes

I would be glad to help transcribe, but am unsure how to start and also....not duplicate what others have done. Can anyone provide guidance? Thank you! Carol ------ Original Message ------ Received: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 09:38:34 PM EST From: "Muriel M. Davidson" <muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca> To: CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Can-Ont-Carleton] Post-1901 Census: Blank Census Forms for 1901 and 1911 To all:- Should anyone be transcribing the recently-released 1911 census records and need blank forms to assist them in recording their data, please go to the following site All forms are available at http://www.archivecdbooks.ca/downloads.html All forms may be copied to other sites -- just let me know -- the same as we posted the census logo by Barney Kaufman. Many thanks go to David Sharpe of Missouri, Janice Bolton of California; plus Pierre Godin with bilingual forms and also a latecomer Earle Sande. A Big THANK YOU from all! David should feel very proud his EXCEL form "was just what I wanted" as stated by many writers. There are two 1901 forms (these census records need finishing), plus four 1911 forms -- a great deal of choice. The forms are certainly a great help -- I always made my own so know the work involved. By the way, microfiche might be available in September -- we hope! Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Brampton, ON http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/post1901census.htm http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census -- bilingual The above message mau be forwarded ==== CAN-ONT-CARLETON Mailing List ==== Remember -- no query is ever too small, someone may have the answer to add to your family group sheets ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

To all:- Should anyone be transcribing the recently-released 1911 census records and need blank forms to assist them in recording their data, please go to the following site All forms are available at http://www.archivecdbooks.ca/downloads.html All forms may be copied to other sites -- just let me know -- the same as we posted the census logo by Barney Kaufman. Many thanks go to David Sharpe of Missouri, Janice Bolton of California; plus Pierre Godin with bilingual forms and also a latecomer Earle Sande. A Big THANK YOU from all! David should feel very proud his EXCEL form "was just what I wanted" as stated by many writers. There are two 1901 forms (these census records need finishing), plus four 1911 forms -- a great deal of choice. The forms are certainly a great help -- I always made my own so know the work involved. By the way, microfiche might be available in September -- we hope! Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Brampton, ON http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/post1901census.htm http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census -- bilingual The above message mau be forwarded