To all -- I am combining this message -- and so readers will not think the questions being asked on the 2006 census are new -- except for Question 53 -- check http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/datalib/censusq.htm This is a chart of all questions asked from Confederation to 2001. The 2006 questions URL is in Gordon's message.You will note there is a great similarity!! However, please answer YES to #53 -- there will be transcribers in 2098! These will likely be our descendants -- my granddaughter is already interested1 Also, matterial available for Letters to the Editor -- not everyone uses computers! Muriel M. Davidson Brampton, ON Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee =========================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 3:42 PM Subject: Census 2006 -- Questions and reasons asked Greetings All. For those who have any concerns about what will be asked on the upcoming Census, the questions to be asked, and the reasons they are being asked, are available on the Statistics Canada website available at http://www12.statcan.ca/english/census06/info/questions/index.cfm Information provided here is for the long form only, and there are 53 questions. There are only 8 questions on the short form -- these include questions 1 through 6, question 16, and question 53 as shown for the long form. Ensure your place in the history of Canada. On Census Day 16 May 2006, answer YES to allow your information to be made available to your descendants in 2098. Ask everyone you know to do so as well. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, British Columbia Read my column, 'Gordon Watts Reports' at http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/authors/authgw.htm

As the list administrator of Can-NB-Carleton, I am interested in seeing the 100% posted for this county. At present the standing is 94.65% with only one district to finish. Woodstock District 22 has 643 lines finished out of 1850 -- a few hours work and this could mean 100% Do not worry about District 18 - Wicklow Parish -- I have checked this and the enumerator had only one family member left to record so preferred to have the extra line. York County is now at 91.49% -- just a bit more transcribing! !00% Club Members are Gloucester, Kings and Albert, Northumberland Counties. For those who are not familiar -- http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/ Muriel M. Davidson Brampton, ON Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee

----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 2:06 PM Subject: Census 2006 -- Lockheed-Martin and confidentiality Greetings All Over the past few weeks I have been made aware of a group who have been actively campaigning to have people hinder, or cripple the upcoming Canadian Census. I have been reluctant to make mention of them at all, hoping they would just 'go away', and I will not mention who they are because I do not wish to give any indication I believe them to be credible. Let it suffice to say that it would appear they are well funded, and well organized. In my opinion however, they are misguided and misinformed regarding the realities of how the Census is being conducted. They do not advocate outright refusal to respond to the Census, but offer a number of suggestions regarding ways to hinder the process, and to skew the resultant data. To follow these suggestions would, in my opinion, be dangerous and detrimental to the entire process and the reasons for it. These people put forth the fact that Statistics Canada has contracted out to the Canadian subsidiary of Lockheed-Martin for software, and fear that having done so makes our Census data subject to export to the United States under legislation enacted there after 9-11, as reasons to not fully cooperate in our upcoming Census. This is not a new issue. In fact, to my knowledge it has been around since early 2004, when Statistics Canada conducted a test Census in preparation for Census 2006. It is an issue that has been dealt with in Parliament at least twice that I am aware of. It is an issue that should have been put to rest long ago. Statistics Canada has taken a number of steps to ensure that confidentiality of Census is maintained, and that NO information provided to Census can be exported to the United States or any other country. Those steps include the following: ** Only Statistics Canada staff handle completed questionnaires and process confidential data. All questionnaires and data are processed in Canada. ** The systems and networks used to collect and process confidential data are not connected to any external networks, and are physically isolated from the outside. ** No contract staff is ever in possession of confidential data, and it is physically impossible for any outside contractor to obtain possession of census data or to transmit them outside the Agency. ** Everyone working on the census is sworn in under the Statistics Act, and subject to the provisions and penalties of the Statistics Act (including imprisonment of up to six months) if they breach confidentiality. I urge everyone to cooperate fully, and to honestly complete the Census 2006 questionnaires. It is to your advantage to do so. Ensure your place in the history of Canada. On Census Day 16 May 2006, answer YES to allow your information to be made available to your descendants in 2098. As everyone you know to do so as well. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, British Columbia Read my column, 'Gordon Watts Reports' at http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/authors/authgw.htm

Probably the now defunct Ottawa Journal, or the Ottawa Citizen Hope this helps Bill Woodruff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom & Wendy Gray" <twg@sasktel.net> To: <CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 11:12 AM Subject: [Can-Ont-Carleton] Beechwood Cemetery >I have found a ancestor buried in Beechwood Cemetery > John Joseph McCord died 6 Jan 1946 > Can anyone tell me the name of an Ottawa paper that would have carried an > obit for this time so I can ILL the microfilm > Thanks > Wendy > > > ==== CAN-ONT-CARLETON Mailing List ==== > Check out other genealogy resources on the net at John Fuller's most > helpful site > http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Hi Wendy It could have been "The Ottawa Journal" or "The Ottawa Citizen". Scott Naylor I have found a ancestor buried in Beechwood Cemetery John Joseph McCord died 6 Jan 1946 Can anyone tell me the name of an Ottawa paper that would have carried an obit for this time so I can ILL the microfilm Thanks Wendy

I have found a ancestor buried in Beechwood Cemetery John Joseph McCord died 6 Jan 1946 Can anyone tell me the name of an Ottawa paper that would have carried an obit for this time so I can ILL the microfilm Thanks Wendy

Hi, I wonder if anyone could help me with a marriage between Elizabeth Lucinda Johnston (may go by Lucinda), born about 1875, parents Kennedy Johnston and Mary Ann Campbell, to a Mr. Gallagher. Thinking about 1895, followed by the death of said Gallagher before 1905. Greatly appreciate any help. Peggy Gordon

Please read -- very important . . .Gordon is the Ottawa contact Muriel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 1:38 AM Subject: Gordon Watts Reports -- new issue online Greetings All. For those interested, the latest issue of my column, 'Gordon Watts Reports' is now online. Topics in this issue include: - Canadian Census 2006 -- Reasons to say YES - Some answers to questions [on Canadian Census] - We are not alone [Australian Census] - Message from Ian E. Wilson - Librarian and Archivist of Canada - New from Library and Archives Canada - Brian W. Hutchison Genealogical Scholarship - Jeff Paul moves on I have had it brought to my attention that my earlier post regarding the current issue of 'Gordon Watts Reports' neglected to include the URL. It should have included the following link: http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/gazgw/gazgw-0085.htm My apologies to all, and my thanks to James Custance for bringing it to my attention. Ensure your place in the history of Canada. On Census Day 16 May 2006, answer YES to allow your information to be made available to your descendants in 2098. Ask everyone you know to do so as well. Enjoy the Census! Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, British Columbia Read my column, 'Gordon Watts Reports' at http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/authors/authgw.htm http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/gazgw/gazgw-0085.htm

My gg grandfather James Johnston and his wife Margrett Jane Groves were both born in Londonderry, Ireland where they married about 1822 and had a daughter Mary Ann born in 1823. They emigrated to Billings Bridge, Gloucester Twp., Carleton Co., Ontario in 1827. Mary Ann married William Lee on Jan. 9, 1845. Then she died July 23, 1847. I would like to know if there were any children. Also would like more information about William Lee. I would suspect that he remarried as he lived until Dec 16, 1908. Does anyone have any information about a second marriage? Thanks Peggy

I am looking for the birth and marriage of Stanley Johnston, son of Allan Kennedy Johnston and Maude Martin who were married in 1911 in Navan (could that be Cavan), Ontario. Stanley married someone named Hazel probably about 1935-40. Any information appreciated. Peggy

Hi, I am looking for descendants of Allan Kennedy Johnston, born Nov. 27, 1884 possibly in Gloucester Twp,, Carleton Co., Ottawa, Ontario. He married Maude Martin in 1911. They had at least 4 children, names are Dr. Marion Johnston, Allan Kennedy Johnston, Stanley Johnston, and Melba Johnston. Allan Kennedy Jr. married Grace someone, and they named one of their children Allan Kennedy Johnston, as well. Does anyone have any information on this family. I would so appreciate any help. Peggy

On the 1901 Census for Russell, Ontario, there is a William Lee, wife Margartt. This family is living next door to some of my other relatives. So I was wondering if Margartt born in 1851 might be Margartt Johnston, daughter of James Johnston and his second wife Margaret, maiden name unknown. Would anyone have any information on a possible marriage of Margaret(Margartt) Johnston and William Lee, about 1879 or 1880 as the first child is born Sept 1881. ? I would be very appreciative of any information. I was told in the past that Mary Ann Johnston married a William Lee, but maybe it was Margaret or maybe they both did. Mary Ann is much younger than Margaret. I have very little information about James Johnston and his second wife but Margaret was given as one of their daughters. Thank you Peggy

Hello. I was never positive that I had the correct William that was married to Hannah Raine in Gloucester Twp, Carleton Co., However, now I am. Using the 1901 and 1911 Censuses, along with the Manitoba Vital Statistics site, I found that one of Velinda's children had a middle name of Raine. Since Velinda was from his first marriage, I think that is the final proof that we have the correct marriage with the correct William. There are a lot of Williams out there, and a lot of Johnstons. Thanks for the help. Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: "marg mcfarlane" <mmcfarla@telusplanet.net> To: <CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [Can-Ont-Carleton] Marriages of William R. Johnston, born April 14, 1831, Gloucester Twp, > Hi Peggy: > > Or she died after the online Manitoba death reg's are cut off, which is 70 > years ago, abt 1936. > > Do you have them on the 1911 census?: > > Province: Manitoba District: Lisgar District Number: 17 Sub-District > Number: 8 Census Year: 1911 Page: 6 Household Members: Name Birth Year > William Hamilton 1855 Velendal Hamilton 1863 Evan Hamilton Jr. 1884 > Clementina Hamilton 1886 Gatinde F Hamilton 1889 Wett M J Hamilton 1891 > William C Hamilton 1892 Hanna W Hamilton 1895 Annie M Hamilton 1901 John A > Hamilton 1904 Walter Johnston 1872 > I won't type it all out but this is the index entry and from it you should > be able to find them on the original page at www.archives.ca. Note that > the names are the way they are indexed on Ancestry, not the way they may > actually be interpreted by those who are familiar with the family. > > Best of luck, > > Marg > > > > p&rgordon wrote: > >> Hi Marg, >> I was thinking what a brilliant idea, about finding a death registration >> for Velinda. I knew that the family had moved to Manitoba and she was >> married there in 1883 to William Hamilton. The last child that I have >> was born in 1895. So I went on the Manitoba Vital Statistics site to >> find her death, after 1895 and nothing. She either left the province, or >> remarried. Or is still alive at 143 - just joking! >> I will keep trying. >> Thanks >> Peggy >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "marg mcfarlane" >> <mmcfarla@telusplanet.net> >> To: <CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 3:26 PM >> Subject: Re: [Can-Ont-Carleton] Marriages of William R. Johnston, born >> April 14, 1831, Gloucester Twp, >> >> >>> Hi Peggy: >>> >>> No sorry I don't as I can only access Ontario birth reg's from 1869 >>> onward. I did look at all the Johnston and variations Wesleyan >>> Methodist Baptisms online just in case, and did not find her: >>> >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wjmartin/wm-index.htm >>> >>> If you can find a death reg somewhere for her that might give you >>> parental and birth info. >>> >>> Marg >>> >>> p&rgordon wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Marg, >>>> Thank you very much for all this. I did have the marriage of Hannah >>>> and William, stating parents James and Jane Raine. Therefore, I wonder >>>> if the censuses with James could be Hannah's brother rather than >>>> father, as the James on the 1881 census is born about 1834 and Hannah >>>> about 1841, according to the marriage info. Same with the death info on >>>> James. But thank you anyway. It all helps and I do appreciate it. Do >>>> you have any means to find out about the birth of Velinda Johnston, >>>> about 1863? Parents William and whoever (probably Hannah). >>>> Peggy >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "marg mcfarlane" >>>> <mmcfarla@telusplanet.net> >>>> To: <CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 8:58 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [Can-Ont-Carleton] Marriages of William R. Johnston, born >>>> April 14, 1831, Gloucester Twp, >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi Peggy: >>>>> >>>>> I imagine you already have this: >>>>> >>>>> Ontario Marriage Index, 1858-1899 Record >>>>> about Hannah Rain >>>>> Name: Hannah Rain >>>>> Birth Place: Gloucester Township Residence: Gloucester Township Age: >>>>> 19 Father Name: James Rain Mother Name: Jane Rain Estimated Birth >>>>> Year: 1841 Spouse Name: William Johnston >>>>> Spouse's Age: 26 Spouse Birth Place: Gloucester Township Spouse >>>>> Residence: Gloucester Township Spouse Estimated Birth Year: 1834 >>>>> Spouse Father Name: James Johnson Spouse Mother Name : Margaret >>>>> Johnson Marriage Date: 20 Feb 1860 >>>>> Marriage Place: Ottawa Marriage County: Carleton Family History >>>>> Library Microfilm: 1030062 >>>>> From the child James' birth reg: >>>>> >>>>> Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1907 Record >>>>> about James Henry Raine >>>>> Name: James Henry Raine >>>>> Date of Birth: 2 Oct 1870 >>>>> Gender: Male Birth County: Carleton Father's Name: William Johnston, >>>>> Ottawa, mechanic and saw filer >>>>> Mother's Name: Hannah Adevin Raine >>>>> Physician: Dr. Van Courtlandt >>>>> Roll Number: MS929_1 Reg/ #019824 >>>>> >>>>> Adevin looks to be Hannah's middle name, not a surname. >>>>> >>>>> Here is James Raine: >>>>> >>>>> Ontario, Canada Deaths, 1869-1932 Record >>>>> >>>>> County of Carleton, Division of Ottawa >>>>> Name: James Raine >>>>> Death Date: 15 Apr 1902 >>>>> Death Location: 364 Slater?(Registrar's handwriting is awful!) >>>>> Ottawa, Carleton Occupation: Ex-policeman >>>>> Marital Status: Married Religion: Protestant >>>>> Gender: Male Age: 67 years >>>>> Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Birth Location: Carleton County,Ont >>>>> Cause: Bright's disease, 2 years >>>>> Physician & Informant: Dr. James Seager >>>>> Reg #006819 April 16, 1902 >>>>> >>>>> Have you ordered/viewed this 1871 census entry in case it is your >>>>> William? If his birth year was off by 4 years on the marriage entry, >>>>> perhaps it was also off by 4 years the other direction on the census: >>>>> >>>>> Federal Census of 1871 (Ontario Index) >>>>> >>>>> JOHNSON , WILLIAM >>>>> >>>>> Sex: Male >>>>> Age: 44 >>>>> Birthplace: ONTARIO >>>>> Religion: Church of England, Anglican >>>>> Origin: IRISH >>>>> Occupation: FARMER >>>>> District: CARLETON ( 078 ) >>>>> Sub-district: Huntley ( G ) >>>>> Division: 1 >>>>> Page: 10 >>>>> Microfilm reel: C-10,016 >>>>> Reference: RG31 -- Statistics Canada >>>>> >>>>> The Raine's in 1901 and the Robertsons are in the same household: >>>>> >>>>> 1901 Census of Canada Page Information >>>>> District: ON OTTAWA (City/Cité) (#100) >>>>> Subdistrict: St. George (Ward/Quartier) E-4 Page 6 >>>>> Images are from National Archives Web Site >>>>> Details: Schedule 1 Microfilm T-6488 >>>>> >>>>> Raine James M Head M Aug 9 1834 ON >>>>> Presbyterian Bailiff >>>>> Raine Isabella F Wife M Oct 28 1841 >>>>> Robertson Ettie F Head W Jan 3 1868 Gov't >>>>> painting bureau >>>>> Robertson Mary Gertrude F Daughter S Apr 27 age >>>>> 10 Can't read birth location Robertson Mary Catherine F Daughter >>>>> S Dec 7 age 7 same Robertson Mary Lillian F Daughter >>>>> S Sep 4 age 4 same >>>>> >>>>> In 1881: >>>>> >>>>> James RAINE M Male English 44 O. >>>>> <Ontario> Labourer C. Presbyterian >>>>> Isabela RAINE M Female Scottish 37 O. >>>>> <Ontario> C. Presbyterian >>>>> James RAINE Male English 13 O. >>>>> <Ontario> C. Presbyterian >>>>> Anna RAINE Female English 11 O. >>>>> <Ontario> C. Presbyterian >>>>> John RAINE Male English 8 O. <Ontario> >>>>> C. Presbyterian >>>>> Mary RAINE Female English 6 O. >>>>> <Ontario> C. Presbyterian >>>>> George RAINE Male English 3 O. >>>>> <Ontario> C. Presbyterian >>>>> >>>>> Source Information: >>>>> Census Place Wellington Ward, Ottawa, Carleton, Ontario >>>>> Family History Library Film 1375865 >>>>> NA Film Number C-13229 >>>>> District 105 >>>>> Sub-district A >>>>> Division 2 >>>>> Page Number 26 >>>>> Household Number 127 >>>>> >>>>> Marg >>>>> >>>>> p&rgordon wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> William R. is my g grandfather. He was born April 14, 1831. It is >>>>>> my belief that he first married Hannah Adwen Raine in 1860. His >>>>>> parents on the entry are given as James Johnson and Margaret Johnson >>>>>> (note no "t" in Johnson) , but the age is 26, rather than 30. I >>>>>> think it is him but am not 100% sure. Hannah died on January 28, >>>>>> 1871 and an infant son died in 1871, supposedly at age of 10 days. >>>>>> However, I wonder if the age is 100 days, as I found the birth of >>>>>> James Henry Raine Johnston, Oct 2, 1870, with parents William and >>>>>> Hannah Adevin. I know there was a James and Jane Raine living in the >>>>>> same area at that time, and Hannah who married William Johnston is >>>>>> their daughter, so think that Adevin is incorrect. As for James Henry >>>>>> , if he died 10 days into 1871, he would be 100 days old. I know for >>>>>> sure that he married my g grandmother Jane Russell Spence, but not >>>>>> sure when. I think it was later in 1871, possibly Sept. as Walter was >>>>>> born June 1872. Can anyone find this second marriage in particular? >>>>>> Or tell me more about the first marriage. One clue might be that I >>>>>> know that William had a daughter Velinda E. (Belinda) from his first >>>>>> marriage so if her birth was found (about 1863), it might have the >>>>>> mother's name. Velinda is with William and Jane Russell on a later >>>>>> census in Manitoba and she is only 9 years younger than Jane so >>>>>> cannot be her biological daughter. Same with a son William born >>>>>> about 1870. >>>>>> Thanks for any help. >>>>>> Peggy >>>>>> >>>>>> ==== CAN-ONT-CARLETON Mailing List ==== >>>>>> Remember -- no query is ever too small, >>>>>> someone may have the answer to add to your >>>>>> family group sheets >>>>>> >>>>>> ============================== >>>>>> View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, >>>>>> find >>>>>> marriage announcements and more. 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Hi again, I think I found William Hamilton's death May 20, 1922 in the district of Pembina. Would that be for the town of Manitou? You have been so helpful. I will follow up on these links. Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: "marg mcfarlane" <mmcfarla@telusplanet.net> To: <CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [Can-Ont-Carleton] Marriages of William R. Johnston, born April 14, 1831, Gloucester Twp, > Hi, again Peggy: > > You might want to contact the Town of Manitou to see if they have the > cemetery records there, or know where they are: > > http://www.communityprofiles.mb.ca/cgi-bin/csd/contacts.cgi?id=4604035 > > The Genweb page which includes Manitou: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Embpembin/ > > Rootsweb list: > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/CAN/CAN-MB-PEMBINA.html > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/CAN/CAN-MANITOBA.html > > Maybe someone on one of those lists can tell you about cemteries in > Manitou. > > Marg > > >> > > > ==== CAN-ONT-CARLETON Mailing List ==== > Genealogy is the heritage of all people -- > History of the decade being researched helps us > understand how our ancestors lived and worked. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.5/303 - Release Date: 4/6/2006 > >

Hi, It took me a while to find it but it was extremely interesting. One thing, Velinda is listed as Scotch, and her half-brother Walter is Irish. If they have the same father, shouldn't they be the same nationality. Of course, censuses can be wrong. As for translation, I think Evan is really Eva A. (as in Agness), Gatinde is Gertrude, Wett is Nettie. Handwriting can be rather difficult. Then I found them on the 1906, and several of the children seemed to be using their middle names. Makes it interesting. At least now I know their middle names whereas before I only had an initial. Thanks to you I now have a few more children for Velinda. Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: "marg mcfarlane" <mmcfarla@telusplanet.net> To: <CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [Can-Ont-Carleton] Marriages of William R. Johnston, born April 14, 1831, Gloucester Twp, > Hi Peggy: > > Or she died after the online Manitoba death reg's are cut off, which is 70 > years ago, abt 1936. > > Do you have them on the 1911 census?: > > Province: Manitoba District: Lisgar District Number: 17 Sub-District > Number: 8 Census Year: 1911 Page: 6 Household Members: Name Birth Year > William Hamilton 1855 Velendal Hamilton 1863 Evan Hamilton Jr. 1884 > Clementina Hamilton 1886 Gatinde F Hamilton 1889 Wett M J Hamilton 1891 > William C Hamilton 1892 Hanna W Hamilton 1895 Annie M Hamilton 1901 John A > Hamilton 1904 Walter Johnston 1872 > I won't type it all out but this is the index entry and from it you should > be able to find them on the original page at www.archives.ca. Note that > the names are the way they are indexed on Ancestry, not the way they may > actually be interpreted by those who are familiar with the family. > > Best of luck, > > Marg > > > > p&rgordon wrote: > >> Hi Marg, >> I was thinking what a brilliant idea, about finding a death registration >> for Velinda. I knew that the family had moved to Manitoba and she was >> married there in 1883 to William Hamilton. The last child that I have >> was born in 1895. So I went on the Manitoba Vital Statistics site to >> find her death, after 1895 and nothing. She either left the province, or >> remarried. Or is still alive at 143 - just joking! >> I will keep trying. >> Thanks >> Peggy >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "marg mcfarlane" >> <mmcfarla@telusplanet.net> >> To: <CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 3:26 PM >> Subject: Re: [Can-Ont-Carleton] Marriages of William R. Johnston, born >> April 14, 1831, Gloucester Twp, >> >> >>> Hi Peggy: >>> >>> No sorry I don't as I can only access Ontario birth reg's from 1869 >>> onward. I did look at all the Johnston and variations Wesleyan >>> Methodist Baptisms online just in case, and did not find her: >>> >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wjmartin/wm-index.htm >>> >>> If you can find a death reg somewhere for her that might give you >>> parental and birth info. >>> >>> Marg >>> >>> p&rgordon wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Marg, >>>> Thank you very much for all this. I did have the marriage of Hannah >>>> and William, stating parents James and Jane Raine. Therefore, I wonder >>>> if the censuses with James could be Hannah's brother rather than >>>> father, as the James on the 1881 census is born about 1834 and Hannah >>>> about 1841, according to the marriage info. Same with the death info on >>>> James. But thank you anyway. It all helps and I do appreciate it. Do >>>> you have any means to find out about the birth of Velinda Johnston, >>>> about 1863? Parents William and whoever (probably Hannah). >>>> Peggy >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "marg mcfarlane" >>>> <mmcfarla@telusplanet.net> >>>> To: <CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 8:58 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [Can-Ont-Carleton] Marriages of William R. Johnston, born >>>> April 14, 1831, Gloucester Twp, >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi Peggy: >>>>> >>>>> I imagine you already have this: >>>>> >>>>> Ontario Marriage Index, 1858-1899 Record >>>>> about Hannah Rain >>>>> Name: Hannah Rain >>>>> Birth Place: Gloucester Township Residence: Gloucester Township Age: >>>>> 19 Father Name: James Rain Mother Name: Jane Rain Estimated Birth >>>>> Year: 1841 Spouse Name: William Johnston >>>>> Spouse's Age: 26 Spouse Birth Place: Gloucester Township Spouse >>>>> Residence: Gloucester Township Spouse Estimated Birth Year: 1834 >>>>> Spouse Father Name: James Johnson Spouse Mother Name : Margaret >>>>> Johnson Marriage Date: 20 Feb 1860 >>>>> Marriage Place: Ottawa Marriage County: Carleton Family History >>>>> Library Microfilm: 1030062 >>>>> From the child James' birth reg: >>>>> >>>>> Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1907 Record >>>>> about James Henry Raine >>>>> Name: James Henry Raine >>>>> Date of Birth: 2 Oct 1870 >>>>> Gender: Male Birth County: Carleton Father's Name: William Johnston, >>>>> Ottawa, mechanic and saw filer >>>>> Mother's Name: Hannah Adevin Raine >>>>> Physician: Dr. Van Courtlandt >>>>> Roll Number: MS929_1 Reg/ #019824 >>>>> >>>>> Adevin looks to be Hannah's middle name, not a surname. >>>>> >>>>> Here is James Raine: >>>>> >>>>> Ontario, Canada Deaths, 1869-1932 Record >>>>> >>>>> County of Carleton, Division of Ottawa >>>>> Name: James Raine >>>>> Death Date: 15 Apr 1902 >>>>> Death Location: 364 Slater?(Registrar's handwriting is awful!) >>>>> Ottawa, Carleton Occupation: Ex-policeman >>>>> Marital Status: Married Religion: Protestant >>>>> Gender: Male Age: 67 years >>>>> Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Birth Location: Carleton County,Ont >>>>> Cause: Bright's disease, 2 years >>>>> Physician & Informant: Dr. James Seager >>>>> Reg #006819 April 16, 1902 >>>>> >>>>> Have you ordered/viewed this 1871 census entry in case it is your >>>>> William? If his birth year was off by 4 years on the marriage entry, >>>>> perhaps it was also off by 4 years the other direction on the census: >>>>> >>>>> Federal Census of 1871 (Ontario Index) >>>>> >>>>> JOHNSON , WILLIAM >>>>> >>>>> Sex: Male >>>>> Age: 44 >>>>> Birthplace: ONTARIO >>>>> Religion: Church of England, Anglican >>>>> Origin: IRISH >>>>> Occupation: FARMER >>>>> District: CARLETON ( 078 ) >>>>> Sub-district: Huntley ( G ) >>>>> Division: 1 >>>>> Page: 10 >>>>> Microfilm reel: C-10,016 >>>>> Reference: RG31 -- Statistics Canada >>>>> >>>>> The Raine's in 1901 and the Robertsons are in the same household: >>>>> >>>>> 1901 Census of Canada Page Information >>>>> District: ON OTTAWA (City/Cité) (#100) >>>>> Subdistrict: St. George (Ward/Quartier) E-4 Page 6 >>>>> Images are from National Archives Web Site >>>>> Details: Schedule 1 Microfilm T-6488 >>>>> >>>>> Raine James M Head M Aug 9 1834 ON >>>>> Presbyterian Bailiff >>>>> Raine Isabella F Wife M Oct 28 1841 >>>>> Robertson Ettie F Head W Jan 3 1868 Gov't >>>>> painting bureau >>>>> Robertson Mary Gertrude F Daughter S Apr 27 age >>>>> 10 Can't read birth location Robertson Mary Catherine F Daughter >>>>> S Dec 7 age 7 same Robertson Mary Lillian F Daughter >>>>> S Sep 4 age 4 same >>>>> >>>>> In 1881: >>>>> >>>>> James RAINE M Male English 44 O. >>>>> <Ontario> Labourer C. Presbyterian >>>>> Isabela RAINE M Female Scottish 37 O. >>>>> <Ontario> C. Presbyterian >>>>> James RAINE Male English 13 O. >>>>> <Ontario> C. Presbyterian >>>>> Anna RAINE Female English 11 O. >>>>> <Ontario> C. Presbyterian >>>>> John RAINE Male English 8 O. <Ontario> >>>>> C. Presbyterian >>>>> Mary RAINE Female English 6 O. >>>>> <Ontario> C. Presbyterian >>>>> George RAINE Male English 3 O. >>>>> <Ontario> C. Presbyterian >>>>> >>>>> Source Information: >>>>> Census Place Wellington Ward, Ottawa, Carleton, Ontario >>>>> Family History Library Film 1375865 >>>>> NA Film Number C-13229 >>>>> District 105 >>>>> Sub-district A >>>>> Division 2 >>>>> Page Number 26 >>>>> Household Number 127 >>>>> >>>>> Marg >>>>> >>>>> p&rgordon wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> William R. is my g grandfather. He was born April 14, 1831. It is >>>>>> my belief that he first married Hannah Adwen Raine in 1860. His >>>>>> parents on the entry are given as James Johnson and Margaret Johnson >>>>>> (note no "t" in Johnson) , but the age is 26, rather than 30. I >>>>>> think it is him but am not 100% sure. Hannah died on January 28, >>>>>> 1871 and an infant son died in 1871, supposedly at age of 10 days. >>>>>> However, I wonder if the age is 100 days, as I found the birth of >>>>>> James Henry Raine Johnston, Oct 2, 1870, with parents William and >>>>>> Hannah Adevin. I know there was a James and Jane Raine living in the >>>>>> same area at that time, and Hannah who married William Johnston is >>>>>> their daughter, so think that Adevin is incorrect. As for James Henry >>>>>> , if he died 10 days into 1871, he would be 100 days old. I know for >>>>>> sure that he married my g grandmother Jane Russell Spence, but not >>>>>> sure when. I think it was later in 1871, possibly Sept. as Walter was >>>>>> born June 1872. Can anyone find this second marriage in particular? >>>>>> Or tell me more about the first marriage. One clue might be that I >>>>>> know that William had a daughter Velinda E. (Belinda) from his first >>>>>> marriage so if her birth was found (about 1863), it might have the >>>>>> mother's name. Velinda is with William and Jane Russell on a later >>>>>> census in Manitoba and she is only 9 years younger than Jane so >>>>>> cannot be her biological daughter. Same with a son William born >>>>>> about 1870. >>>>>> Thanks for any help. >>>>>> Peggy >>>>>> >>>>>> ==== CAN-ONT-CARLETON Mailing List ==== >>>>>> Remember -- no query is ever too small, >>>>>> someone may have the answer to add to your >>>>>> family group sheets >>>>>> >>>>>> ============================== >>>>>> View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, >>>>>> find >>>>>> marriage announcements and more. 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Hi, again Peggy: You might want to contact the Town of Manitou to see if they have the cemetery records there, or know where they are: http://www.communityprofiles.mb.ca/cgi-bin/csd/contacts.cgi?id=4604035 The Genweb page which includes Manitou: http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Embpembin/ Rootsweb list: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/CAN/CAN-MB-PEMBINA.html http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/CAN/CAN-MANITOBA.html Maybe someone on one of those lists can tell you about cemteries in Manitou. Marg >

Hi Peggy: Or she died after the online Manitoba death reg's are cut off, which is 70 years ago, abt 1936. Do you have them on the 1911 census?: Province: Manitoba District: Lisgar District Number: 17 Sub-District Number: 8 Census Year: 1911 Page: 6 Household Members: Name Birth Year William Hamilton 1855 Velendal Hamilton 1863 Evan Hamilton Jr. 1884 Clementina Hamilton 1886 Gatinde F Hamilton 1889 Wett M J Hamilton 1891 William C Hamilton 1892 Hanna W Hamilton 1895 Annie M Hamilton 1901 John A Hamilton 1904 Walter Johnston 1872 I won't type it all out but this is the index entry and from it you should be able to find them on the original page at www.archives.ca. Note that the names are the way they are indexed on Ancestry, not the way they may actually be interpreted by those who are familiar with the family. Best of luck, Marg p&rgordon wrote: > Hi Marg, > I was thinking what a brilliant idea, about finding a death > registration for Velinda. I knew that the family had moved to > Manitoba and she was married there in 1883 to William Hamilton. The > last child that I have was born in 1895. So I went on the Manitoba > Vital Statistics site to find her death, after 1895 and nothing. She > either left the province, or remarried. Or is still alive at 143 - > just joking! > I will keep trying. > Thanks > Peggy > ----- Original Message ----- From: "marg mcfarlane" > <mmcfarla@telusplanet.net> > To: <CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 3:26 PM > Subject: Re: [Can-Ont-Carleton] Marriages of William R. Johnston, born > April 14, 1831, Gloucester Twp, > > >> Hi Peggy: >> >> No sorry I don't as I can only access Ontario birth reg's from 1869 >> onward. I did look at all the Johnston and variations Wesleyan >> Methodist Baptisms online just in case, and did not find her: >> >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wjmartin/wm-index.htm >> >> If you can find a death reg somewhere for her that might give you >> parental and birth info. >> >> Marg >> >> p&rgordon wrote: >> >>> Hi Marg, >>> Thank you very much for all this. I did have the marriage of Hannah >>> and William, stating parents James and Jane Raine. Therefore, I >>> wonder if the censuses with James could be Hannah's brother rather >>> than father, as the James on the 1881 census is born about 1834 and >>> Hannah about 1841, according to the marriage info. Same with the >>> death info on James. But thank you anyway. It all helps and I do >>> appreciate it. Do you have any means to find out about the birth of >>> Velinda Johnston, about 1863? Parents William and whoever (probably >>> Hannah). >>> Peggy >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "marg mcfarlane" >>> <mmcfarla@telusplanet.net> >>> To: <CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 8:58 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Can-Ont-Carleton] Marriages of William R. Johnston, >>> born April 14, 1831, Gloucester Twp, >>> >>> >>>> Hi Peggy: >>>> >>>> I imagine you already have this: >>>> >>>> Ontario Marriage Index, 1858-1899 Record >>>> about Hannah Rain >>>> Name: Hannah Rain >>>> Birth Place: Gloucester Township Residence: Gloucester Township >>>> Age: 19 Father Name: James Rain Mother Name: Jane Rain Estimated >>>> Birth Year: 1841 Spouse Name: William Johnston >>>> Spouse's Age: 26 Spouse Birth Place: Gloucester Township Spouse >>>> Residence: Gloucester Township Spouse Estimated Birth Year: 1834 >>>> Spouse Father Name: James Johnson Spouse Mother Name : Margaret >>>> Johnson Marriage Date: 20 Feb 1860 >>>> Marriage Place: Ottawa Marriage County: Carleton Family History >>>> Library Microfilm: 1030062 >>>> From the child James' birth reg: >>>> >>>> Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1907 Record >>>> about James Henry Raine >>>> Name: James Henry Raine >>>> Date of Birth: 2 Oct 1870 >>>> Gender: Male Birth County: Carleton Father's Name: William >>>> Johnston, Ottawa, mechanic and saw filer >>>> Mother's Name: Hannah Adevin Raine >>>> Physician: Dr. Van Courtlandt >>>> Roll Number: MS929_1 Reg/ #019824 >>>> >>>> Adevin looks to be Hannah's middle name, not a surname. >>>> >>>> Here is James Raine: >>>> >>>> Ontario, Canada Deaths, 1869-1932 Record >>>> >>>> County of Carleton, Division of Ottawa >>>> Name: James Raine >>>> Death Date: 15 Apr 1902 >>>> Death Location: 364 Slater?(Registrar's handwriting is awful!) >>>> Ottawa, Carleton Occupation: Ex-policeman >>>> Marital Status: Married Religion: Protestant >>>> Gender: Male Age: 67 years >>>> Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Birth Location: Carleton County,Ont >>>> Cause: Bright's disease, 2 years >>>> Physician & Informant: Dr. James Seager >>>> Reg #006819 April 16, 1902 >>>> >>>> Have you ordered/viewed this 1871 census entry in case it is your >>>> William? If his birth year was off by 4 years on the marriage >>>> entry, perhaps it was also off by 4 years the other direction on >>>> the census: >>>> >>>> Federal Census of 1871 (Ontario Index) >>>> >>>> JOHNSON , WILLIAM >>>> >>>> Sex: Male >>>> Age: 44 >>>> Birthplace: ONTARIO >>>> Religion: Church of England, Anglican >>>> Origin: IRISH >>>> Occupation: FARMER >>>> District: CARLETON ( 078 ) >>>> Sub-district: Huntley ( G ) >>>> Division: 1 >>>> Page: 10 >>>> Microfilm reel: C-10,016 >>>> Reference: RG31 -- Statistics Canada >>>> >>>> The Raine's in 1901 and the Robertsons are in the same household: >>>> >>>> 1901 Census of Canada Page Information >>>> District: ON OTTAWA (City/Cité) (#100) >>>> Subdistrict: St. George (Ward/Quartier) E-4 Page 6 >>>> Images are from National Archives Web Site >>>> Details: Schedule 1 Microfilm T-6488 >>>> >>>> Raine James M Head M Aug 9 1834 ON >>>> Presbyterian Bailiff >>>> Raine Isabella F Wife M Oct 28 1841 >>>> Robertson Ettie F Head W Jan 3 1868 >>>> Gov't painting bureau >>>> Robertson Mary Gertrude F Daughter S Apr 27 >>>> age 10 Can't read birth location Robertson Mary Catherine F >>>> Daughter S Dec 7 age 7 same Robertson Mary Lillian F >>>> Daughter S Sep 4 age 4 same >>>> >>>> In 1881: >>>> >>>> James RAINE M Male English 44 O. >>>> <Ontario> Labourer C. Presbyterian >>>> Isabela RAINE M Female Scottish 37 O. >>>> <Ontario> C. Presbyterian >>>> James RAINE Male English 13 O. >>>> <Ontario> C. Presbyterian >>>> Anna RAINE Female English 11 O. >>>> <Ontario> C. Presbyterian >>>> John RAINE Male English 8 O. >>>> <Ontario> C. Presbyterian >>>> Mary RAINE Female English 6 O. >>>> <Ontario> C. Presbyterian >>>> George RAINE Male English 3 O. >>>> <Ontario> C. Presbyterian >>>> >>>> Source Information: >>>> Census Place Wellington Ward, Ottawa, Carleton, Ontario >>>> Family History Library Film 1375865 >>>> NA Film Number C-13229 >>>> District 105 >>>> Sub-district A >>>> Division 2 >>>> Page Number 26 >>>> Household Number 127 >>>> >>>> Marg >>>> >>>> p&rgordon wrote: >>>> >>>>> William R. is my g grandfather. He was born April 14, 1831. It >>>>> is my belief that he first married Hannah Adwen Raine in 1860. His >>>>> parents on the entry are given as James Johnson and Margaret >>>>> Johnson (note no "t" in Johnson) , but the age is 26, rather than >>>>> 30. I think it is him but am not 100% sure. Hannah died on >>>>> January 28, 1871 and an infant son died in 1871, supposedly at age >>>>> of 10 days. However, I wonder if the age is 100 days, as I found >>>>> the birth of James Henry Raine Johnston, Oct 2, 1870, with parents >>>>> William and Hannah Adevin. I know there was a James and Jane Raine >>>>> living in the same area at that time, and Hannah who married >>>>> William Johnston is their daughter, so think that Adevin is >>>>> incorrect. As for James Henry , if he died 10 days into 1871, he >>>>> would be 100 days old. I know for sure that he married my g >>>>> grandmother Jane Russell Spence, but not sure when. I think it was >>>>> later in 1871, possibly Sept. as Walter was born June 1872. Can >>>>> anyone find this second marriage in particular? Or tell me more >>>>> about the first marriage. One clue might be that I know that >>>>> William had a daughter Velinda E. (Belinda) from his first >>>>> marriage so if her birth was found (about 1863), it might have the >>>>> mother's name. Velinda is with William and Jane Russell on a later >>>>> census in Manitoba and she is only 9 years younger than Jane so >>>>> cannot be her biological daughter. Same with a son William born >>>>> about 1870. >>>>> Thanks for any help. >>>>> Peggy >>>>> >>>>> ==== CAN-ONT-CARLETON Mailing List ==== >>>>> Remember -- no query is ever too small, >>>>> someone may have the answer to add to your >>>>> family group sheets >>>>> >>>>> ============================== >>>>> View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, >>>>> find >>>>> marriage announcements and more. 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Hi Marg, I now have Velinda Johnston's date of birth which is Nov.6, 1863. Still don't have any information about her parents, but I am paying an archivist from St.Andrew's Presbyterian church in Carleton Co. to find out as much as she can in 2 hr. That's the maximum that is allowed. Velinda is on the list, but there are a lot of other names as well such as confirmation of William's siblings and step-siblings. I must say that on Velinda's marriage certificate (which I don't yet have) her name was spelled Johnstone. Some of the earlier records for James Johnston are spelled as Johnstone as well. That made me wonder if his family came from Scotland prior to Ireland. Bit by bit. Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: "marg mcfarlane" <mmcfarla@telusplanet.net> To: <CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [Can-Ont-Carleton] Marriages of William R. Johnston, born April 14, 1831, Gloucester Twp, > Hi Peggy: > > No sorry I don't as I can only access Ontario birth reg's from 1869 > onward. I did look at all the Johnston and variations Wesleyan Methodist > Baptisms online just in case, and did not find her: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wjmartin/wm-index.htm > > If you can find a death reg somewhere for her that might give you parental > and birth info. > > Marg > > p&rgordon wrote: > >> Hi Marg, >> Thank you very much for all this. I did have the marriage of Hannah and >> William, stating parents James and Jane Raine. Therefore, I wonder if >> the censuses with James could be Hannah's brother rather than father, as >> the James on the 1881 census is born about 1834 and Hannah about 1841, >> according to the marriage info. Same with the death info on James. But >> thank you anyway. It all helps and I do appreciate it. Do you have any >> means to find out about the birth of Velinda Johnston, about 1863? >> Parents William and whoever (probably Hannah). >> Peggy >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "marg mcfarlane" >> <mmcfarla@telusplanet.net> >> To: <CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 8:58 AM >> Subject: Re: [Can-Ont-Carleton] Marriages of William R. Johnston, born >> April 14, 1831, Gloucester Twp, >> >> >>> Hi Peggy: >>> >>> I imagine you already have this: >>> >>> Ontario Marriage Index, 1858-1899 Record >>> about Hannah Rain >>> Name: Hannah Rain >>> Birth Place: Gloucester Township Residence: Gloucester Township Age: 19 >>> Father Name: James Rain Mother Name: Jane Rain Estimated Birth Year: >>> 1841 Spouse Name: William Johnston >>> Spouse's Age: 26 Spouse Birth Place: Gloucester Township Spouse >>> Residence: Gloucester Township Spouse Estimated Birth Year: 1834 Spouse >>> Father Name: James Johnson Spouse Mother Name : Margaret Johnson >>> Marriage Date: 20 Feb 1860 >>> Marriage Place: Ottawa Marriage County: Carleton Family History Library >>> Microfilm: 1030062 >>> From the child James' birth reg: >>> >>> Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1907 Record >>> about James Henry Raine >>> Name: James Henry Raine >>> Date of Birth: 2 Oct 1870 >>> Gender: Male Birth County: Carleton Father's Name: William Johnston, >>> Ottawa, mechanic and saw filer >>> Mother's Name: Hannah Adevin Raine >>> Physician: Dr. Van Courtlandt >>> Roll Number: MS929_1 Reg/ #019824 >>> >>> Adevin looks to be Hannah's middle name, not a surname. >>> >>> Here is James Raine: >>> >>> Ontario, Canada Deaths, 1869-1932 Record >>> >>> County of Carleton, Division of Ottawa >>> Name: James Raine >>> Death Date: 15 Apr 1902 >>> Death Location: 364 Slater?(Registrar's handwriting is awful!) Ottawa, >>> Carleton Occupation: Ex-policeman >>> Marital Status: Married Religion: Protestant >>> Gender: Male Age: 67 years >>> Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Birth Location: Carleton County,Ont >>> Cause: Bright's disease, 2 years >>> Physician & Informant: Dr. James Seager >>> Reg #006819 April 16, 1902 >>> >>> Have you ordered/viewed this 1871 census entry in case it is your >>> William? If his birth year was off by 4 years on the marriage entry, >>> perhaps it was also off by 4 years the other direction on the census: >>> >>> Federal Census of 1871 (Ontario Index) >>> >>> JOHNSON , WILLIAM >>> >>> Sex: Male >>> Age: 44 >>> Birthplace: ONTARIO >>> Religion: Church of England, Anglican >>> Origin: IRISH >>> Occupation: FARMER >>> District: CARLETON ( 078 ) >>> Sub-district: Huntley ( G ) >>> Division: 1 >>> Page: 10 >>> Microfilm reel: C-10,016 >>> Reference: RG31 -- Statistics Canada >>> >>> The Raine's in 1901 and the Robertsons are in the same household: >>> >>> 1901 Census of Canada Page Information >>> District: ON OTTAWA (City/Cité) (#100) >>> Subdistrict: St. George (Ward/Quartier) E-4 Page 6 >>> Images are from National Archives Web Site >>> Details: Schedule 1 Microfilm T-6488 >>> >>> Raine James M Head M Aug 9 1834 ON >>> Presbyterian Bailiff >>> Raine Isabella F Wife M Oct 28 1841 >>> Robertson Ettie F Head W Jan 3 1868 Gov't >>> painting bureau >>> Robertson Mary Gertrude F Daughter S Apr 27 age 10 >>> Can't read birth location Robertson Mary Catherine F Daughter >>> S Dec 7 age 7 same Robertson Mary Lillian F Daughter S >>> Sep 4 age 4 same >>> >>> In 1881: >>> >>> James RAINE M Male English 44 O. <Ontario> >>> Labourer C. Presbyterian >>> Isabela RAINE M Female Scottish 37 O. >>> <Ontario> C. Presbyterian >>> James RAINE Male English 13 O. <Ontario> >>> C. Presbyterian >>> Anna RAINE Female English 11 O. <Ontario> >>> C. Presbyterian >>> John RAINE Male English 8 O. <Ontario> >>> C. Presbyterian >>> Mary RAINE Female English 6 O. <Ontario> >>> C. Presbyterian >>> George RAINE Male English 3 O. <Ontario> >>> C. Presbyterian >>> >>> Source Information: >>> Census Place Wellington Ward, Ottawa, Carleton, Ontario >>> Family History Library Film 1375865 >>> NA Film Number C-13229 >>> District 105 >>> Sub-district A >>> Division 2 >>> Page Number 26 >>> Household Number 127 >>> >>> Marg >>> >>> p&rgordon wrote: >>> >>>> William R. is my g grandfather. He was born April 14, 1831. It is my >>>> belief that he first married Hannah Adwen Raine in 1860. His parents on >>>> the entry are given as James Johnson and Margaret Johnson (note no "t" >>>> in Johnson) , but the age is 26, rather than 30. I think it is him but >>>> am not 100% sure. Hannah died on January 28, 1871 and an infant son >>>> died in 1871, supposedly at age of 10 days. However, I wonder if the >>>> age is 100 days, as I found the birth of James Henry Raine Johnston, >>>> Oct 2, 1870, with parents William and Hannah Adevin. I know there was a >>>> James and Jane Raine living in the same area at that time, and Hannah >>>> who married William Johnston is their daughter, so think that Adevin is >>>> incorrect. As for James Henry , if he died 10 days into 1871, he would >>>> be 100 days old. I know for sure that he married my g grandmother Jane >>>> Russell Spence, but not sure when. I think it was later in 1871, >>>> possibly Sept. as Walter was born June 1872. Can anyone find this >>>> second marriage in particular? Or tell me more about the first >>>> marriage. One clue might be that I know that William had a daughter >>>> Velinda E. (Belinda) from his first marriage so if her birth was found >>>> (about 1863), it might have the mother's name. Velinda is with William >>>> and Jane Russell on a later census in Manitoba and she is only 9 years >>>> younger than Jane so cannot be her biological daughter. Same with a >>>> son William born about 1870. >>>> Thanks for any help. >>>> Peggy >>>> >>>> ==== CAN-ONT-CARLETON Mailing List ==== >>>> Remember -- no query is ever too small, >>>> someone may have the answer to add to your >>>> family group sheets >>>> >>>> ============================== >>>> View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >>>> marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >>>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ==== CAN-ONT-CARLETON Mailing List ==== >>> The 1911 census records are being transcribed! >>> It is fun -- http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/ >>> Another way to find family members >>> >>> ============================== >>> New! 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Hi Marg, I was thinking what a brilliant idea, about finding a death registration for Velinda. I knew that the family had moved to Manitoba and she was married there in 1883 to William Hamilton. The last child that I have was born in 1895. So I went on the Manitoba Vital Statistics site to find her death, after 1895 and nothing. She either left the province, or remarried. Or is still alive at 143 - just joking! I will keep trying. Thanks Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: "marg mcfarlane" <mmcfarla@telusplanet.net> To: <CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [Can-Ont-Carleton] Marriages of William R. Johnston, born April 14, 1831, Gloucester Twp, > Hi Peggy: > > No sorry I don't as I can only access Ontario birth reg's from 1869 > onward. I did look at all the Johnston and variations Wesleyan Methodist > Baptisms online just in case, and did not find her: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wjmartin/wm-index.htm > > If you can find a death reg somewhere for her that might give you parental > and birth info. > > Marg > > p&rgordon wrote: > >> Hi Marg, >> Thank you very much for all this. I did have the marriage of Hannah and >> William, stating parents James and Jane Raine. Therefore, I wonder if >> the censuses with James could be Hannah's brother rather than father, as >> the James on the 1881 census is born about 1834 and Hannah about 1841, >> according to the marriage info. Same with the death info on James. But >> thank you anyway. It all helps and I do appreciate it. Do you have any >> means to find out about the birth of Velinda Johnston, about 1863? >> Parents William and whoever (probably Hannah). >> Peggy >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "marg mcfarlane" >> <mmcfarla@telusplanet.net> >> To: <CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 8:58 AM >> Subject: Re: [Can-Ont-Carleton] Marriages of William R. Johnston, born >> April 14, 1831, Gloucester Twp, >> >> >>> Hi Peggy: >>> >>> I imagine you already have this: >>> >>> Ontario Marriage Index, 1858-1899 Record >>> about Hannah Rain >>> Name: Hannah Rain >>> Birth Place: Gloucester Township Residence: Gloucester Township Age: 19 >>> Father Name: James Rain Mother Name: Jane Rain Estimated Birth Year: >>> 1841 Spouse Name: William Johnston >>> Spouse's Age: 26 Spouse Birth Place: Gloucester Township Spouse >>> Residence: Gloucester Township Spouse Estimated Birth Year: 1834 Spouse >>> Father Name: James Johnson Spouse Mother Name : Margaret Johnson >>> Marriage Date: 20 Feb 1860 >>> Marriage Place: Ottawa Marriage County: Carleton Family History Library >>> Microfilm: 1030062 >>> From the child James' birth reg: >>> >>> Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1907 Record >>> about James Henry Raine >>> Name: James Henry Raine >>> Date of Birth: 2 Oct 1870 >>> Gender: Male Birth County: Carleton Father's Name: William Johnston, >>> Ottawa, mechanic and saw filer >>> Mother's Name: Hannah Adevin Raine >>> Physician: Dr. Van Courtlandt >>> Roll Number: MS929_1 Reg/ #019824 >>> >>> Adevin looks to be Hannah's middle name, not a surname. >>> >>> Here is James Raine: >>> >>> Ontario, Canada Deaths, 1869-1932 Record >>> >>> County of Carleton, Division of Ottawa >>> Name: James Raine >>> Death Date: 15 Apr 1902 >>> Death Location: 364 Slater?(Registrar's handwriting is awful!) Ottawa, >>> Carleton Occupation: Ex-policeman >>> Marital Status: Married Religion: Protestant >>> Gender: Male Age: 67 years >>> Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Birth Location: Carleton County,Ont >>> Cause: Bright's disease, 2 years >>> Physician & Informant: Dr. James Seager >>> Reg #006819 April 16, 1902 >>> >>> Have you ordered/viewed this 1871 census entry in case it is your >>> William? If his birth year was off by 4 years on the marriage entry, >>> perhaps it was also off by 4 years the other direction on the census: >>> >>> Federal Census of 1871 (Ontario Index) >>> >>> JOHNSON , WILLIAM >>> >>> Sex: Male >>> Age: 44 >>> Birthplace: ONTARIO >>> Religion: Church of England, Anglican >>> Origin: IRISH >>> Occupation: FARMER >>> District: CARLETON ( 078 ) >>> Sub-district: Huntley ( G ) >>> Division: 1 >>> Page: 10 >>> Microfilm reel: C-10,016 >>> Reference: RG31 -- Statistics Canada >>> >>> The Raine's in 1901 and the Robertsons are in the same household: >>> >>> 1901 Census of Canada Page Information >>> District: ON OTTAWA (City/Cité) (#100) >>> Subdistrict: St. George (Ward/Quartier) E-4 Page 6 >>> Images are from National Archives Web Site >>> Details: Schedule 1 Microfilm T-6488 >>> >>> Raine James M Head M Aug 9 1834 ON >>> Presbyterian Bailiff >>> Raine Isabella F Wife M Oct 28 1841 >>> Robertson Ettie F Head W Jan 3 1868 Gov't >>> painting bureau >>> Robertson Mary Gertrude F Daughter S Apr 27 age 10 >>> Can't read birth location Robertson Mary Catherine F Daughter >>> S Dec 7 age 7 same Robertson Mary Lillian F Daughter S >>> Sep 4 age 4 same >>> >>> In 1881: >>> >>> James RAINE M Male English 44 O. <Ontario> >>> Labourer C. Presbyterian >>> Isabela RAINE M Female Scottish 37 O. >>> <Ontario> C. Presbyterian >>> James RAINE Male English 13 O. <Ontario> >>> C. Presbyterian >>> Anna RAINE Female English 11 O. <Ontario> >>> C. Presbyterian >>> John RAINE Male English 8 O. <Ontario> >>> C. Presbyterian >>> Mary RAINE Female English 6 O. <Ontario> >>> C. Presbyterian >>> George RAINE Male English 3 O. <Ontario> >>> C. Presbyterian >>> >>> Source Information: >>> Census Place Wellington Ward, Ottawa, Carleton, Ontario >>> Family History Library Film 1375865 >>> NA Film Number C-13229 >>> District 105 >>> Sub-district A >>> Division 2 >>> Page Number 26 >>> Household Number 127 >>> >>> Marg >>> >>> p&rgordon wrote: >>> >>>> William R. is my g grandfather. He was born April 14, 1831. It is my >>>> belief that he first married Hannah Adwen Raine in 1860. His parents on >>>> the entry are given as James Johnson and Margaret Johnson (note no "t" >>>> in Johnson) , but the age is 26, rather than 30. I think it is him but >>>> am not 100% sure. Hannah died on January 28, 1871 and an infant son >>>> died in 1871, supposedly at age of 10 days. However, I wonder if the >>>> age is 100 days, as I found the birth of James Henry Raine Johnston, >>>> Oct 2, 1870, with parents William and Hannah Adevin. I know there was a >>>> James and Jane Raine living in the same area at that time, and Hannah >>>> who married William Johnston is their daughter, so think that Adevin is >>>> incorrect. As for James Henry , if he died 10 days into 1871, he would >>>> be 100 days old. I know for sure that he married my g grandmother Jane >>>> Russell Spence, but not sure when. I think it was later in 1871, >>>> possibly Sept. as Walter was born June 1872. Can anyone find this >>>> second marriage in particular? Or tell me more about the first >>>> marriage. One clue might be that I know that William had a daughter >>>> Velinda E. (Belinda) from his first marriage so if her birth was found >>>> (about 1863), it might have the mother's name. Velinda is with William >>>> and Jane Russell on a later census in Manitoba and she is only 9 years >>>> younger than Jane so cannot be her biological daughter. Same with a >>>> son William born about 1870. >>>> Thanks for any help. >>>> Peggy >>>> >>>> ==== CAN-ONT-CARLETON Mailing List ==== >>>> Remember -- no query is ever too small, >>>> someone may have the answer to add to your >>>> family group sheets >>>> >>>> ============================== >>>> View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >>>> marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >>>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ==== CAN-ONT-CARLETON Mailing List ==== >>> The 1911 census records are being transcribed! >>> It is fun -- http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/ >>> Another way to find family members >>> >>> ============================== >>> New! 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Hi Peggy: No sorry I don't as I can only access Ontario birth reg's from 1869 onward. I did look at all the Johnston and variations Wesleyan Methodist Baptisms online just in case, and did not find her: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wjmartin/wm-index.htm If you can find a death reg somewhere for her that might give you parental and birth info. Marg p&rgordon wrote: > Hi Marg, > Thank you very much for all this. I did have the marriage of Hannah > and William, stating parents James and Jane Raine. Therefore, I > wonder if the censuses with James could be Hannah's brother rather > than father, as the James on the 1881 census is born about 1834 and > Hannah about 1841, according to the marriage info. Same with the death > info on James. But thank you anyway. It all helps and I do appreciate > it. Do you have any means to find out about the birth of Velinda > Johnston, about 1863? Parents William and whoever (probably Hannah). > Peggy > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "marg mcfarlane" > <mmcfarla@telusplanet.net> > To: <CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 8:58 AM > Subject: Re: [Can-Ont-Carleton] Marriages of William R. Johnston, born > April 14, 1831, Gloucester Twp, > > >> Hi Peggy: >> >> I imagine you already have this: >> >> Ontario Marriage Index, 1858-1899 Record >> about Hannah Rain >> Name: Hannah Rain >> Birth Place: Gloucester Township Residence: Gloucester Township Age: >> 19 Father Name: James Rain Mother Name: Jane Rain Estimated Birth >> Year: 1841 Spouse Name: William Johnston >> Spouse's Age: 26 Spouse Birth Place: Gloucester Township Spouse >> Residence: Gloucester Township Spouse Estimated Birth Year: 1834 >> Spouse Father Name: James Johnson Spouse Mother Name : Margaret >> Johnson Marriage Date: 20 Feb 1860 >> Marriage Place: Ottawa Marriage County: Carleton Family History >> Library Microfilm: 1030062 >> From the child James' birth reg: >> >> Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1907 Record >> about James Henry Raine >> Name: James Henry Raine >> Date of Birth: 2 Oct 1870 >> Gender: Male Birth County: Carleton Father's Name: William Johnston, >> Ottawa, mechanic and saw filer >> Mother's Name: Hannah Adevin Raine >> Physician: Dr. Van Courtlandt >> Roll Number: MS929_1 Reg/ #019824 >> >> Adevin looks to be Hannah's middle name, not a surname. >> >> Here is James Raine: >> >> Ontario, Canada Deaths, 1869-1932 Record >> >> County of Carleton, Division of Ottawa >> Name: James Raine >> Death Date: 15 Apr 1902 >> Death Location: 364 Slater?(Registrar's handwriting is awful!) >> Ottawa, Carleton Occupation: Ex-policeman >> Marital Status: Married Religion: Protestant >> Gender: Male Age: 67 years >> Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Birth Location: Carleton County,Ont >> Cause: Bright's disease, 2 years >> Physician & Informant: Dr. James Seager >> Reg #006819 April 16, 1902 >> >> Have you ordered/viewed this 1871 census entry in case it is your >> William? If his birth year was off by 4 years on the marriage entry, >> perhaps it was also off by 4 years the other direction on the census: >> >> Federal Census of 1871 (Ontario Index) >> >> JOHNSON , WILLIAM >> >> Sex: Male >> Age: 44 >> Birthplace: ONTARIO >> Religion: Church of England, Anglican >> Origin: IRISH >> Occupation: FARMER >> District: CARLETON ( 078 ) >> Sub-district: Huntley ( G ) >> Division: 1 >> Page: 10 >> Microfilm reel: C-10,016 >> Reference: RG31 -- Statistics Canada >> >> The Raine's in 1901 and the Robertsons are in the same household: >> >> 1901 Census of Canada Page Information >> District: ON OTTAWA (City/Cité) (#100) >> Subdistrict: St. George (Ward/Quartier) E-4 Page 6 >> Images are from National Archives Web Site >> Details: Schedule 1 Microfilm T-6488 >> >> Raine James M Head M Aug 9 1834 ON >> Presbyterian Bailiff >> Raine Isabella F Wife M Oct 28 1841 >> Robertson Ettie F Head W Jan 3 1868 >> Gov't painting bureau >> Robertson Mary Gertrude F Daughter S Apr 27 age >> 10 Can't read birth location Robertson Mary Catherine F >> Daughter S Dec 7 age 7 same Robertson Mary Lillian F >> Daughter S Sep 4 age 4 same >> >> In 1881: >> >> James RAINE M Male English 44 O. >> <Ontario> Labourer C. Presbyterian >> Isabela RAINE M Female Scottish 37 O. >> <Ontario> C. Presbyterian >> James RAINE Male English 13 O. >> <Ontario> C. Presbyterian >> Anna RAINE Female English 11 O. >> <Ontario> C. Presbyterian >> John RAINE Male English 8 O. >> <Ontario> C. Presbyterian >> Mary RAINE Female English 6 O. >> <Ontario> C. Presbyterian >> George RAINE Male English 3 O. >> <Ontario> C. Presbyterian >> >> Source Information: >> Census Place Wellington Ward, Ottawa, Carleton, Ontario >> Family History Library Film 1375865 >> NA Film Number C-13229 >> District 105 >> Sub-district A >> Division 2 >> Page Number 26 >> Household Number 127 >> >> Marg >> >> p&rgordon wrote: >> >>> William R. is my g grandfather. He was born April 14, 1831. It is >>> my belief that he first married Hannah Adwen Raine in 1860. His >>> parents on the entry are given as James Johnson and Margaret Johnson >>> (note no "t" in Johnson) , but the age is 26, rather than 30. I >>> think it is him but am not 100% sure. Hannah died on January 28, >>> 1871 and an infant son died in 1871, supposedly at age of 10 days. >>> However, I wonder if the age is 100 days, as I found the birth of >>> James Henry Raine Johnston, Oct 2, 1870, with parents William and >>> Hannah Adevin. I know there was a James and Jane Raine living in the >>> same area at that time, and Hannah who married William Johnston is >>> their daughter, so think that Adevin is incorrect. As for James >>> Henry , if he died 10 days into 1871, he would be 100 days old. I >>> know for sure that he married my g grandmother Jane Russell Spence, >>> but not sure when. I think it was later in 1871, possibly Sept. as >>> Walter was born June 1872. Can anyone find this second marriage in >>> particular? Or tell me more about the first marriage. One clue >>> might be that I know that William had a daughter Velinda E. >>> (Belinda) from his first marriage so if her birth was found (about >>> 1863), it might have the mother's name. Velinda is with William and >>> Jane Russell on a later census in Manitoba and she is only 9 years >>> younger than Jane so cannot be her biological daughter. Same with a >>> son William born about 1870. >>> Thanks for any help. >>> Peggy >>> >>> ==== CAN-ONT-CARLETON Mailing List ==== >>> Remember -- no query is ever too small, >>> someone may have the answer to add to your >>> family group sheets >>> >>> ============================== >>> View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >>> marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> ==== CAN-ONT-CARLETON Mailing List ==== >> The 1911 census records are being transcribed! >> It is fun -- http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/ >> Another way to find family members >> >> ============================== >> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >> ancestors at the same time. 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