Off topic but appropriate for the time. Take a look - it will give you goose bumps http://www.saintsandheroes.com/GodBlessAmerica Helen --------------------------------- Many thanks, Helen for the very inspiring July 4th tribute. It is appropriate for the day!! I have several pages on my homepage -- still would like the names of the 25 Canadians killed on September 11 http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/TRIBUTE.html Many thanks for the site, Muriel M. Davidson [email protected] Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.373 / Virus Database: 208 - Release Date: 7/1/02
MAY BE FORWARDED OR TRANSLATED Greetings All. The latest of my columns on Post 1901 Census has just been posted. Included in the column are suggested letters to send to the Information Commissioner following rejection of your Access to Information requests for access to records of the 1906 Census by the National Archives or Statistics Canada. These letters of complaint are an essential part of our current campaign. Other than an acknowledgement of receipt I would not expect a response for several months. I have been advised that some have received telephone calls from the office of the Information Commissioner, asking if they still wish to proceed with their complaint. Should this happen to you, the response should be YES. Our requests for access can in no way be considered frivolous, and our complaints are not vexatious. We are very serious in our desire for access to these vital records. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts [email protected] Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.372 / Virus Database: 207 - Release Date: 6/21/02
To all:- Very recently I made a promise to Senator Lorna Milne that WE "were in for the long haul" -- meaning until census records are released for all to use -- not a statistical view -- but the real and original records. However, there are several requests:- http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Petiition.htm Dowloadable are Senate and House of Commons petitions in both French and English, plus Non-Resident for those with roots in Canada. You will note there are THREE (3) pages -- keep the first page for your reference, does not need to be returned. PAGE 2 starts off with the "prayer" which has been approved, plus EIGHT (8) lines for signatures. There is a place to fill in where signatures are obtained, and address -- telephone/e-mail. PAGE 3 has three lines which MUST be printed or written at top of the page -- three-ring loose-leaf could even be used, as long as the three lines are written at the top. Above all, DO NOT PHOTOCOPY AFTER SIGNATURES [Some time ago, I received one petition from a genealogical society in Quebec -- 30 signatures -- so cannot be used as the pages were photocopied and Pages 2 and 3 not included] Pages 2 and 3 may be printed on the same sheet of paper -- looks great!! Alberta has possibly exhausted all sources of signatures -- we are hoping for many from Quebec and Ontario and all will be stock-piled until September. Pack a petition for both House of Commons and Senate when YOU pack your summer picnic baskets -- or suitcases for trips! One request -- Please do not mix Canadian and American addresses. American and other signers must use the Non-Resident petitions! To prove there is a need for more signatures, read the following: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/1906census.html [We hope to have the interview translated very shortly] Happy signing -- and people with many friends are invited to use the URLs given above. Muriel M. Davidson [email protected] Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee 25 Crestview Avenue, Brampton, ON L6W 2R8 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.372 / Virus Database: 207 - Release Date: 6/20/02
The article is long, but for anyone researching British Home Children -- should be very interesting. Muriel M. Davidson [email protected] ------------------------------------------------------ Greetings All. I copy here for your interest an article recently published in the Humboldt Journal, a weekly newspaper in Humboldt, Saskatchewan. The editor, Bill Hancock, has previously written articles regarding British Home Children. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts [email protected] Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted. ======================================= by Bill Hancock Humboldt Journal editor Have you ever wanted to research your family history? If so, you may encounter some problems, thanks to a lack of access to information. While researching their family heritage as descendants of British Home Children, Humboldt citizens Jack Hayes and Jim Warden encountered difficulty locating post-1901 census information. The problem doesn't just apply to them - everybody in Canada faces the same difficulty. "This has been an issue since the 1970s," said Gordon Watts, co-chair of the Canada Census Committee, an ad hoc group formed in 1999 to lobby for access to information. The difficulty stems from Canada's Chief Statistician, said Watts, who refuses to release information on the excuse that a promise was made a century ago to respondents of the census that no information would ever be released. "The most common reason they give is that they think there was a promise of confidentiality in perpetuity for those who took part in the census," said Watts, who has spent five years and about $2,000 fighting for access to information. "There's no evidence that any promise was ever made," said Watts. "It does not exist except in the minds of those who think it exists." Blame for intransigence has been placed squarely on Canada's Chief Statistician, Dr. Ivan Fellegi. "He has almost single-handedly been responsible for not allowing post-1901 census information to be released," said Watts. According to normal procedure, Fellegi is supposed to hand over that information to the National Archivist once the census is 92 years old. Fellegi "has refused to give that control over to the National Archivist," said Watts. The 92-year "period of closure" is twenty years longer than in the United States and eight years shorter than in England, Scotland and Wales. Watts cannot find any reason why the information should not be released in Canada. "The surface reason is individual confidentiality," he said. Over the years in North America and the British Isles there have been 650 million people enumerated and information has been released before. "There has never been a single complaint of information being given or released after a period of closure," he said. "The census is probably the single most important source of information for somebody looking for information about their family," said Watts. "The census gives a snapshot on a periodic basis of the Canadian family," he continued. Records contain information such as who was born, who died and when, sibling names, religion, occupation and some other bits of information, but unless the person did something quite remarkable the only information that may exist is their date of birth and date of death. Information of that sort was "common knowledge at the time," said Watts. If it relates to income, Watts dismisses objections to disclosure. "After 92 years, it's insignificant," he said of any possible present-day negative impact on anyone who may have concerns about that information becoming widely known. In January, the group posted a message on their website asking for a total of $8,000 to assist with legal bills in their battle to have the matter heard in court, but nobody expected the response they got, said Watts. "Within three weeks we had $12,000 donated to us from all over Canada and the United States," he said. Over 50,000 signatures have been presented to the House of Commons and the Senate, and a variety of other measures have been taken as well in the attempt to have post-1901 census information made accessible. A vote on the matter has not taken place, said Watts, due to obstruction. "It was killed by a Liberal Member of Parliament each time," he said. The group hasn't had success gaining access to information and they are hard pressed to find out why there is so much opposition from Ottawa despite having 156 members of Parliament in favour. "The feeling is that it's being directed from above," said Watts reluctantly. The battle will continue, he insists. "If it takes another five years I' ll continue, or for however long it takes," he said, urging Canadians to write letters to Members of Parliament and Senators. "Make it known to them that we're not going to give up," he said. Professor Bill Waiser of the University of Saskatchewan history department has also been working toward gaining access to post-1901 census data for the purpose of historical research. According to Watts, Waiser has even been blocked even though he has applied through the federal Access to Information Act. The lack of information comes as a bigger surprise to Watts and other members of the group now that news has been announced that seven Canadian universities are involved in a $14 million project to eventually put at least some of the information on the Internet. However, according to those fighting for access to information, records made available through that program would likely involve assessing sociological trends and would therefore be of little use for individuals searching for family histories. For now, legal and political measures are being used to gain release of census information. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.372 / Virus Database: 207 - Release Date: 6/20/02
This is a list for County Carleton, dont you want Grenville/Leeds? Also The LDS has records only for a few districts & counties of Ontario(Canada West)Have you tried searching the 1871/81/91 censuses of Ontario? Or are you searching for descendants of those named below? > Subject: [CAN-ONT-CARLETON] Millar/Byers > Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 23:04:47 -0700 > From: "wendy" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > I see so many messages I just can't resist one more try. I am searching for family members of James and Mary (Byers) Millar. James, a farmer, born in Ballyblack, County Down in 1836 and Mary in 1835,buried at Mainsville,north of Cardinal in Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario along with son Henry (d 1961)and his wife, Jennie Richardson (1871-1970). Children: > Sarah Ann b. 1861 Ireland > William b. 1862 Ireland > Rachael b. 1863 Ireland > Elizabeth b. 1865 Ireland > Alec b. 1869 d. 1921 m. Ellen Maria Sanders (Lakefield,Ont. and Buffalo Lakes, Sask.) b.1876 d. 1956 > David g. 1870 Ireland > Samuel b. 1872 Ontario > John b. 1876 Ontario > Henry b. 1879 Ontario > Mabel F. b. 1884 Ontario > Ernest b. 1887 Ontario (Gdson) > Sarah J. b. 1890 Ontario (mb) > > I am new at this so I haven't yet been very successful at the Archives or LDS but will keep trying. If anyone has information to share about this family I would be very happy to hear from them. I won't feel 100% confident this is my family until I know more about them. Thanks for your interest. Wendy. >
To all:- How many are missing the great music on "Sail On Nova Scotia" put together on SONS Live 365 Radio by Bryan Keddy? The radio/computer program really started to celebrate the 250th anniversary of the founding of Lunenburg in 2003. Following is the URL -- and there is a small item to download:- http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/bryanfkeddy/SONS.html Once all the required bits are done like registration, the next time you would just have to click on the black arrow in the yellow circle, click on "Log In" -- make sure the speakers are on -- and ENJOY! One may keep on working by clicking on the diminish tab in upper right hand corner. HINT:- The music will be appropriate for July 1st!!! ---------------- While listening -- why not have a Domonion Day dessert? Line a 13 x 9 cake pan, sides and bottom, with plain cake slices. Pour over cooled strawberry jell-o (2 boxes), let this set. Add yummy strawberries!! Save some good ones for top Next add Cool-Whip and last but not least, cut up strawberries down two sides (the ends) and in the middle, arrange more berries in form of a maple leaf. [A Canadian flag cake!] Could be music from the radio/computer might be "I Wouldn't Trade A Million Dollars For One Maple Leaf" -------------- Music and dessert and company of course!! A great time to get needed signatures on both House of Commons and Senate Census Petition forms - downloadable from http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Petition.htm These will continue to be needed until we say THE CENSUS IS RELEASED -- which we cannot do as yet. As far as I am concerned, only complete release will do -- not a compromise!! Let's work toward this -- carry petitions with you as you vacation! Muriel M. Davidson [email protected] Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee 25 Crestview Avenue, Brampton, Ontario L6W 2R8 http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.372 / Virus Database: 207 - Release Date: 6/20/02
I see so many messages I just can't resist one more try. I am searching for family members of James and Mary (Byers) Millar. James, a farmer, born in Ballyblack, County Down in 1836 and Mary in 1835,buried at Mainsville,north of Cardinal in Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario along with son Henry (d 1961)and his wife, Jennie Richardson (1871-1970). Children: Sarah Ann b. 1861 Ireland William b. 1862 Ireland Rachael b. 1863 Ireland Elizabeth b. 1865 Ireland Alec b. 1869 d. 1921 m. Ellen Maria Sanders (Lakefield,Ont. and Buffalo Lakes, Sask.) b.1876 d. 1956 David g. 1870 Ireland Samuel b. 1872 Ontario John b. 1876 Ontario Henry b. 1879 Ontario Mabel F. b. 1884 Ontario Ernest b. 1887 Ontario (Gdson) Sarah J. b. 1890 Ontario (mb) I am new at this so I haven't yet been very successful at the Archives or LDS but will keep trying. If anyone has information to share about this family I would be very happy to hear from them. I won't feel 100% confident this is my family until I know more about them. Thanks for your interest. Wendy.
Greetings All Sworn answers to written interrogatories of our plaintiffs in the Application for Judicial Review were served and filed on time and Lois Sparling has received the Justice Department's reply to undertakings given by StatCan and NA defendants. She reports that it was very boring reading. As reported previously, lawyers for Justice Canada refused to allow representatives of Chief Statistician Ivan Fellegi (Mary Ledoux) and National Archivist Ian Wilson (Greg Eamon) to answer many of the questions posed by Lois during her cross-examination of them. On Thursday 20 June 2002 Lois appeared in Federal Court to argue a motion that these representatives be compelled to answer her questions. The judge was interested in what the case was all about and remembered reading something about the census in the newspaper recently. He remarked that it appeared to him that since the issue in this case was strictly a question of legal interpretation, no cross-examination was really necessary (he's probably right there). He reserved his decision, which means he'll think about it and let us know. It is interesting that the judge felt the issue was strictly a question of legal interpretation when my cross-examination by the Justice Canada lawyers did not touch on that at all. The lawyer from the Justice Department told the judge and Lois (in lawyer talk, not plain English) that the Attorney General was working on negotiating a compromise/solution between Mr. Wilson and Dr. Fellegi. She told Lois the Attorney General was the neutral "honest broker", or words to that effect. We have mixed feelings on being told that the Attorney General is a neutral "honest broker" in this. The new Attorney General, the Hon. Martin Cauchon, is the MP from Outremont, Quebec, and is one of those who has never responded to our questions of support. In all probability he is not "up" on what has been happening regarding this issue for the past several years. As such he will likely be guided by his advisors, and in particular by Dr. Fellegi who, by no stretch of the imagination could be consider to be neutral in this issue. We will advise, as we have done before, that if the compromise/solution being considered bears any resemblance to the so-called "compromise solution" already proposed by Dr. Fellegi, it will be unacceptable to the genealogists, historians and people of Canada. There is already a compromise, or balance, mandated by law in the form of the Access to Information and Privacy Acts, and Regulations to the Privacy Act. Legislators deliberating these statutes provided that in return for providing information to census, that information would not be publicly accessible for a period of 92 years. There are currently 235 years of Census records for what is now Canada, up to and including those for 1901, available without restriction 92 years after collection. The only solution acceptable will be to allow, as provided by the ATI and Privacy Acts, unrestricted access to Post 1901 Census records 92 years following collection, on exactly the same basis as those records up to and including 1901 are currently available. We must continue our efforts to advise our elected and appointed representative that is is what the people want. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts [email protected] Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm | | | --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.372 / Virus Database: 207 - Release Date: 6/20/02
To all:- Many will wonder what in the world I am talking about -- but this must be OUR aim during the summer recess of Parliament. There are 301 Members of Parliament, but only 156 have actually stated support of Post-1901 census records release. Do not worry about the ones showing a red X -- some have changed their respective minds and we have thanked them. Quebec, Ontario and Newfoundland, in that order, need LESS in the NOT HEARD FROM line! I have written to all in Ontario, Don Tate is writing to those in Newfoundland -- We have committee members in Quebec -- but others with Quebec roots are invited -- I would like to see the number 25 instead of 52. WHY? Should Members of Parliament ever have to vote on census release, we need more on the SUPPORT side -- same with Senators. Above all, check to see if YOUR MP or Senator is supportive and pop along to the annual barbecue or whatever (paid for with your tax-dollars), and you might obtain his/her support. The summer recess continues until September 18, 2002 -- so pack your petitions wherever you travel. I will be saving these until early in September before tabulating -- please add e-mail address of sender. Let's get to work -- we need to be ready for release of S-12 Sept. 30. Muriel M. Davidson [email protected] Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee 25 Crestview Avenue, Brampton, Ontario L6W 2R8 http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index6.htm -- MPs http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Senscore1.htm -- Senators http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Petition.htm -- Download --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.371 / Virus Database: 206 - Release Date: 6/13/02
Greetings All. As I write this it is the first day of summer - the longest day of the year. It is all downhill from this point on. It is also the day the Parliament of Canada is scheduled to adjourn for the summer recess. According to the Parliamentary Calendar our representatives will not return until Wednesday 18 September 2002. It had been hoped that by this time we would have had a resolution to our efforts to regain public access to Post 1901 Census records. It appears that this was not destined to happen and our efforts must continue. At this time, those efforts should include the following: -- Circulate and sign petitions (downloadable from the Post 1901 Census Project website). Summer barbeques and family gatherings are good places to do this. http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Petition.htm -- Write letters to our own MPs and Senators. Check the Scoreboards for their current position before writing. http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index6.htm -- MPs http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Senscore1.htm -- Senators -- Make an appointment to visit your MP in their constituency office and seek their support in person. -- Send Access to Information Requests to Statistics Canada for general access to the 1906 Census of the Western Provinces (Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Alberta) -- On receiving a refusal for that access request, submit a complaint to the Information Commissioner. -- Send a letter to the Privacy Commissioner protesting his opposition to Bill S-12 and public access to these vital records. Do not accept his assertions that the 'compromise solution' promoted by Statistics Canada is a satisfactory resolution to the problem. In a previous posting, and in my last column I provided addresses to send ATI requests, complaints to the Information Commissioner, and letters to the Privacy Commissioner. Rather than repeat those here, that column may be accessed at http://globalgazette.net/gazce/gazce83.htm Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts [email protected] Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.371 / Virus Database: 206 - Release Date: 6/13/02
The following may be forwarded -- >From The Milne Report -- Summer 2002 ---------------- MILNE NAMED HONOURARY PATRON OF OGS The Ontario Genealogical Society (OGS) named Senator Lorna Milne as its Honourary Patron at its annual banquet in Alliston, Ontario last month. Senator Milne has been a member of the OGS for over 25 years. The OGS has over 5,000 members, and in the 41 year history of the society, its members have published over 9,000 genealogical reports, including 3 written by Senator Milne. The Society has also transcribed tombstone information from every cemetery in Ontario. The OGS provides information and support to genealogists across the province. "I want to thank the OGS for this prestigious appointment" said Senator Milne. "I am truly honoured. For years, the OGS has supported both my research and my work as a Senator. I hope I can give something back to the Society as its Honourary Patron". [A very nice photo below the announcement included:- Vic Rudik, Past Executive Director, OGS: Sen. Lorna Milne; David Mackenzie, President, OGS] ------------------ Muriel M. Davidson [email protected] 25 Crestview Avenue, Brampton, ON L6W 2R8 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.371 / Virus Database: 206 - Release Date: 6/13/02
Greetings All. Since my original post this morning (Are records now available???) regarding the CBC News article about the online census database a number of listers have written protesting a project that does not give us what we seek, i.e. access to individually identifiable records of Census. Perhaps those with complaints did not see my subsequent post with the clarification I received from Professor Gaffield. Perhaps they did. In any case, further clarification may be needed. The article itself is, in my opinion, somewhat misleading and has led to some misunderstanding. The opening sentence indicates, without actually so stating, that the Census records themselves will be placed on line for all to see. That indication was reinforced by the caption under the picture referring to records from 1911 to 1951 being added to existing databases. Under current circumstances, this is not going to happen. I support this project. It is not something new, but a continuation of research that has been done by historians using records of Census up to 1901. As I understand it, the researchers will not see the original schedules with names on them, or if they do, they are not permitted to divulge the identities of anyone found on them. They do not have access to all records, but to a 5% sampling of them. It is difficult to visualize how nameless records would be of much value to genealogists, however the aggregate information is of great value to historians, sociologists and others. During our campaign to regain public access to Historic Census records we have had a great deal of support from historians. In fact, there is evidence of historians fighting to regain access before many genealogists, including myself, became aware of the problem. As historians have supported us in our quest, I feel we should support them in this project, or at least not protest against it. Some have complained about the $14 million cost of this project. For those of us on fixed incomes in particular, $14 million is a lot of money. But look at it another way. $14 million over four years, divided by more than 32 million people in Canada is about ten cents per person per year, or about one-quarter the average cost of a single cup of coffee. We will keep fighting until we get the access to name-identified records we seek. Hopefully that will happen sooner, rather than later. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts [email protected] Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.371 / Virus Database: 206 - Release Date: 6/13/02
Greetings All. The following article from CBC News is available online at http://cbc.ca/stories/2002/06/14/online_census020614 The article is printable -- There is also a link to an audio new article regarding this. I find particularly interesting the reference in the caption to a photograph about records from 1911 to 1951. Has the government quietly made these records available without any announcement? I am trying to obtain further clarification through Senator Milne's office, and from Chad Gaffield, team leader of this project. Rest assured I will let you know anything I can find out about this. ---------------------------------- Subsequent to my last message regarding the CBC News article, I have received a response from Professor Chad Gaffield, team leader of the project referred to in the article. This is what he had to say. "The Canadian Century Research Infrastructure project will create StatsCan-like microdata samples for the 20th century enumerations that have not yet been done. Our more recent accomplishment was the 1901 Canadian Families Project 5% sample, and we are building on this work and collaborating with StatsCan so that we will be able to study Canadian society continuously, not at the level of individuals, of course, but in the same way that researchers now study late 20th century censuses. As you can see, this work is unrelated to the 92-year question since our files will not have names." It would appear that any thoughts of release of name-identifiable records at this time are not a reflection of the reality. This is one example of the reason for not taking everything we read, such as the caption on the photograph in the article, as verbatim. We can frequently read into such references much more than was intended. I am advised there is still a possibility of some kind of announcement re: access to Census records following the Cabinet meeting on Wednesday. I have been unable to find any clue to what such an announcement will be, if it is forthcoming. Any announcement short of providing unrestricted access to Post 1901 Census records, on the same basis as access is currently available for those records up to and including 1901, will mean that our campaign will continue. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts [email protected] Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted. NOTE:- Article will be forwarded if desired -- Muriel M. Davidson --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.371 / Virus Database: 206 - Release Date: 6/13/02
Greetings All. As a result of my previous request that all seeking access to Post 1901 Census records submit Access To Iinformation requests for the 1906 Census of the Western Provinces to Statistics Canada and the National Archives, many have now received notice that the National Archives does not hold the 1906 records, and that their $5.00 fee will be returned. This was the first phase of this tactic. The second phase is to submit a complaint to the Information Commissioner regarding the refusal/inability of the Archives to provide the records requested. I copy below a suggested letter of complaint to the Information Commissioner of Canada. Unlike the ATI Requests, there is no fee required to submit such a complaint. As with the ATI requests, I would ask that copies of your complaint be sent to me by email attachment, fax to 604-942-6843, or snail mail to Gordon A. Watts 1455 Delia Drive Port Coquitlam, BC V3C 2V9 In the letter below, those items within the square brackets should be substituted by the information suggested, i.e. the date, whether your notice of refusal was by telephone, or by letter, and your signature and mailing address. A suggested letter of complaint for Statistics Canada will be posted as soon as I see one of their responses. It is felt that the ATI Requests to the National Archives have probably served their purpose and no further requests need be send there. Requests to Statistics Canada, however, are a different story. ATI Requests to Statistics Canada for access to the 1906 Census of the Western Provinces should be continued. Thanks to all for your continued support. Gordon A. Watts [email protected] Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted. ================================ Mr. John Reid Information Commissioner of Canada Place de Ville, Tower B 112 Kent Street, 22nd Floor Ottawa, Ontario K1A 1H3 Dear Sir; On [date] I forwarded an Access to Information Request to the National Archives of Canada. With this request I sought general access to schedules of the 1906 Census of the Western Provinces of Canada (Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Alberta). On [date] I was advised by [letter/telephone] that the National Archives did not have custody of these records and the $5.00 fee that was included with my ATI request would be refunded. Mr. Commissioner, clauses in Instructions to Officers and Enumerators of Census for 1906 (and other years) clearly state that records of Census "have value as a record for historical use" (Clause 20) and that "The census is intended to be a permanent record, and its schedules will be stored in the Archives of the Dominion." (Clause 34). Further, clauses in the Access to Information and Privacy Acts, and Regulation 6(d) of the Privacy Act specifically provide for access to personal information from Census, to any person or body, for purposes of research, 92 years following collection. The National Archives of Canada Act provides that the National Archivist of Canada shall determine what records of government have historical and archival value, and that shall be deposited in the National Archives. The National Archivist has determined that Census records do have historical and archival value, and that they are, in fact, a National Treasure. The pertinent legislation and regulations clearly state that I should have unrestricted access, through the National Archives, to nominal schedules of Census 92 years after collection. Records of the 1906 Census should have been available from 1998, now four years past. This letter is to be considered my official complaint regarding the refusal, or inability, of the National Archives of Canada to provide access to schedules of the 1906 Census of the Western Provinces as per the applicable legislation and regulations. Thank you. [Signature and address] --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.371 / Virus Database: 206 - Release Date: 6/13/02
Hi Everyone, I am researching the name LEGARE. The Legare family resided in Eastman (now Carlsbaad) Springs, just outside of Ottawa, Ontario, at some point (late 1890's-early 1900). My grandfather, Napoleon Legare, was christened there; our guess is 1894. He married my grandmother, Marie Gertrude Colleret, originally from St. Faustin (Terrebonne County, Quebec) in Timmins, Ontario, 1926. He had a brother Joseph Legare. Napoleon's parents were Charles Legare and Marie-Louise Cadieux. If anyone can help with more information I would really appreciate it. Thank-you! Karen Walkowiak Researching Families: Legare, Colleret, Cadieux, Caron
Joan !! I deleted your email adress, i have some info on Bernard Connelly & Ann Kennedy,from the Manwaki Area,you may contact me by email. Delbert
Hello Listers: Can anyone tell me if there might be a cemetery in Templeton, Quebec that might have a record of a burial in 1875 of Emily MULLIGAN. I am trying to find MULLIGAN connections to Emily (nee McDonald) MULLIGAN who married Albert MULLIGAN according to IGI records. I have a christening for a son George MULLIGAN, parents are Albert and Emily, Aylmer, Gatineau. There is another christening for a Lemuel MULLIGAN with parents Albert and Emily in Portland, Ottawa. Notes in a bible dating to 1801 state that Emily MULLIGAN died at Templeton September 30th 1875 age 35 years. I would very much like to pass this keepsake on to a MULLIGAN descendant. Please reply to [email protected] if you can offer any assistance or suggestions regarding this query. Helen Ginn --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.370 / Virus Database: 205 - Release Date: 06/05/2002
Hi, Oscar Lloyd STANLEY was born in 1895 in Greely, Ontario. Parents were Richard Barber STANLEY and Alma Maud YOUNGHUSBAND. Richard born 1876, parents were Thomas Stanley and Lucie Lydia ? I do not have a maiden name for Lucie but was wondering if it might have been BARBER because of Richard's middle name. Alma Maud YOUNGHUSBAND was born in 1871 in March Twp. Carleton Cty. Parents: Nicholas YOUNGHUSBAND and Elizabeth RIDDELL I also have a Florence Bertie ROWE-RICHARDSON born in 1897 in 'Ottawa area'. Which could mean a pretty large area. She married Oscar Lloyd Stanley, and that is all the information I have on her. She might have gone by either of the surnames and not the double name. I would love to hear from anyone who knows of anything further on the above names. This is my sister in law's family and she would interested to find out any information. A family connection would of course be great! Sherida [email protected] Ontario, Canada
Hello Genealogists I am researching the name SMY which originated in England. There are several SMY buried in Ottawa (late1800s, early 1900s) unfortunately in paupers graves with no headstones. This has resulted in no information being available about the person buried other than the name. If any one can provide more information or tell mw where I can get this information please contact me. I am trying to connect the Canada SMYs back to their English ancestors. Thank you Ken SMY researching SMY worldwide Present location Ontario Canada [email protected]
Greetings All. A short time ago I had an extensive telephone interview with Wm. L. (Bill) Hancock, M.A., Editor, Humboldt Journal, of Humboldt, Saskatchewan. Those having access to the Humbolt Journal should watch for an article about the Post 1901 Census issue. It is a weekly publication, issued each Thursday. The Humboldt Journal is online at http://www.sasknews.com/papers/headlines-humboldt.shtml?pfl=headlines.param Subsequent to my last message just posted I received a message from Bill Hancock, Editor of the Humboldt Journal. He advised that while they have a website, they re not currently posting articles to it. He has advised that he will send me a copy of the article(s) he writes which I will be free to post. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts [email protected] Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.370 / Virus Database: 205 - Release Date: 6/5/02