----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Cc: <Laurie_Fagan@cbc.ca> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 3:17 PM Subject: Post 1901 Census - CBC Radio program Greetings All. A short time ago I was contacted by Laurie Fagan, a reporter for the CBC 'Ontario Today' radio program. She was interested in interviewing someone in regards to Bill S-18. As she wanted to interview someone in the Ottawa area I suggested a number of people for her to consider. I have just received a message from John D. Reid (British Isles Family History Society of Greater Ottawa) stating that he had been interviewed by Ms. Fagan this morning. He explained why the 1911 Census records would be useful for his research of his great-uncle, and that information in CEF attestation papers, freely available online, is far more personal than anything in Census. John stated that Ms. Fagan indicated that her item, including interview material from himself, Chad Gaffield (panel member of the Expert Panel on Access to Historical Census Records), and Senator Gerald Comeau (not one of those recommended by me), was scheduled for broadcast tomorrow (Thursday, 5 May), at Noon Ontario time. 'Ontario Today' is broadcast in Ottawa on FM 91.5, and I assume a number of other CBC stations in Ontario. It is accessible on the Internet from their website at http://www.cbc.ca/ontariotoday/ There is a link there for their audio feed. Click on 'Listen Live' 'Ontario Today' is a news and phone-in program running from Noon to 2:00 PM Ontario time. During the second hour they take calls from listeners. Numbers to call in are as follows: Phone-In line 1 to 2 p.m. ET Ottawa: 288.6493 throughout Ontario: 1.888.817.8995 Because the toll free number is labeled 'throughout Ontario' I assume that it will not be available to anyone calling from outside of Ontario. ====== From another memo:- Further to my posting earlier today, I received the following message from Ms. Fagan regarding the Ontario Today radio program. For those wishing to later comment regarding her item, the telephone number for the 'TalkBack line" is 1-888-591-4111 As was the case for the "Phone-In line" I assume this number will be working only for those calling from within Ontario. Those wishing to comment by email may use the form linked on their 'Contact Us' webpage located at http://www.cbc.ca/ontariotoday/contact.html# My thanks to Ms. Fagan for the further information. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted

Seeking any family history data etc., for: Cuthbert SURTEES 1817- 1878 wife - Isabella FLEMING - 1843- 1907 Both buried in Clarence Cemetery, Ottawa, River Front, Ont. and Johanna LOVERING, wife of - Cuthbert SURTEES, d. 11 Dec. 1870 age 63 yrs. (b. c. 1807) Also buried said cemetery (mentioned above). Trying to ascertain if both of these women were Cuthert Surtees' wives? Also, very interested in any LOVERING history,data, marriages, births, children, etc. Willing to share my data. Many thanks in advance, Kind Regards Dorothy Morris Whitby ON

To all:- Census Bill Passes Third Reading in Senate I want to take a moment to thank all of the Senators who voted in favour of S-18 on April 20th. The bill has now passed the Senate and we are hoping that in the midst of this very difficult Parliament, the bill will get final approval. http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Senscore1.htm The debate in the Senate was quite heated and reflected the fact that there are still those who are, quite rightfully, concerned about privacy issues. However, in the long run, the Senate did conclude that this bill is an honest compromise that addresses everyone's concerns. So without further ado, I want to thank my 50 colleagues who joined me in supporting S-18. - Senator Lorna Milne [Information - http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census] Hon. Willie Adams (Nunavut) Hon. Michael Kirby (Ontario) Hon. Jack Austin (BC) Hon. Jean Lapointe (Quebec) Hon. Lise Bacon (Quebec) Hon. Raymond Lavigne (Quebec) Hon. John Bryden (NB) Hon. Viola Léger (Quebec) Hon. Catherine Callbeck (PEI) Hon. Rose-Marie Losier-Cool (Quebec) Hon. Sharon Carstairs (MB) Hon. Shirley Maheu (Quebec) Hon. Marion Chaput (MB) Hon. Frank Mahovlich (Ontario) Hon. Ione Christensen (YK) Hon. Paul Massicotte (Quebec) Hon. Joan Cook (Nfld/Lab) Hon. Elaine McCoy (Alberta) Hon. Eymard Corbin (NB) Hon. Terry Mercer (Nova Scotia) Hon. Jane Cordy (Nova Scotia) Hon. Grant Mitchell (Alberta) Hon. James Cowan (NS) Hon. Lowell Murray (Ontario) Hon. Joseph Day (NB) Hon. Landon Pearson (Ontario) Hon. Percy Downe (PEI) Hon. Lucie Pépin (Quebec) Hon. Lillian Eva Dyck (SK) Hon. Robert Peterson (SK) Hon. Art Eggleton (Ontario) Hon. Gerard Phalen (Nova Scotia) Hon. Joyce Fairbairn (AB) Hon. Michael Pitfield (Ontario) Hon. Marisa Feretti Barth (PQ) Hon. Marie Poulin (Ontario) Hon. Isobel Finnerty (Ontario) Hon. Vivianne Poy (Ontario) Hon. George Furey (Nfld/Lab) Hon. Pierrette Ringuette (NB) Hon. Aurélin Gill (Quebec) Hon. Fernand Robinson (NB) Hon. Céline Hervieux-Payette (PQ) Hon. William Rompkey (NL) Hon. Elizabeth Hubley (PEI) Hon. Nancy Ruth (Ontario) Hon. Mobina Jaffer (BC) Hon. David Smith (Ontario) Hon. Serge Joyal (Quebec) Hon. Claudette Tardiff (Alberta) Apologies for abbreviations -- otherwise list would be too long. -- Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee 25 Crestview Avenue, Brampton, ON L6W 2R8

Hi. If you check out the Bytown or Bust web site you can references to a the Innes families back in the 1880's. Here is the site: http://www.bytown.net/ If you scroll down it is searchable by subject or surname. Cheers! Brenda Turner -----Original Message----- From: CATT [mailto:gullake@primus.ca] Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 12:17 PM To: CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Can-Ont-Carleton] Innes Road, Gloucester, Ontario Would some kind and knowledgeable person, tell me any information regarding the family after whom Innes Road in Gloucester, Carleton County, Ontario, Canada is named? I presume that he was a early settler of the area, and perhaps a member of an early council. I stand to be corrected. ==== CAN-ONT-CARLETON Mailing List ==== Remember -- no query is ever too small, someone may have the answer to add to your family group sheets ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

To all the Members of Parliament of Canada:- All Canadians, plus many with Canadian ancestors, would really like to learn very important bills have been finalized prior to the much-publicized possible election. We sincerely hope, as ones elected to speak for all of us, all items will be finalized. BILL S-18:- Since March 1999 we know you have all been inundated with letters, faxes, emails requesting the release of our Canadian census records. Bill S-18 is an Act to amend the Statistics Act. Several motions were made and defeated, at least five bills made their way through the Senate and House of Commons, only to be trashed when the former prime minister prorogued Parliament -- they were never defeated. Bill S-18 was passed in the Senate 51-16 on April 19, following First and Second Readings, Committee and Report, finally Third Reading, debate and vote. http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census First Reading of S-18 in the House of Commons was April 20 by The Hon. Tony Valeri for the Minister of Industry. The Canada Census Campaign Committee requests Bill S-18 be completed in ONE day. We feel Committee and Report are not needed as the following are in favor of Bill S-18:- Information Commissioner, Privacy Commissioner, Chief Statistician, National Archivist, Canada Census Campaign and Canadian Historical Association. We sincerely hope this can be accomplished, plus other important left-over items before any election may be called ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE PASSED:- BILL S-2:- This bill, introduced by John Reynolds, is an amendment to the Citizenship Act, is unanimously supported by the Senate of Canada, the Opposition parties and some Liberal Members of Parliament. It would give/restore Canadian citizenship to almost 100,000 men, women and children who lost this between 1947 and 1977. A great deal of this number, known as Lost Canadians, were children and as parents moved to another country for work, the children lost his/her Canadian citizenship. DNA -- In A Federal Database The DNA of all convicted criminals should be on file, taken as part of the legal procedure. This would be a protection of our privacy, not an invasion of the privacy of the criminal. We know of one female who will soon be released, may move, may change her name but is her DNA on file? It should be, as ones who know state she might commit another crime. It could be a "stand-alone" law, or simply added to Christopher's Law -- named for Brampton's young Christopher Stephenson who was molested and killed by a pedophile dropped into a neighbourhood without the local police being notified. Thus, our Canadian WISH LIST has three items:- 1. Bill S-18; 2. Bill S-2 and 3. A Canada-wide DNA federal database. All should be on a priority list to protect Canadians. Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee 25 Crestview Avenue, Brampton, ON L6W 2R8

Please post to YOUR own newspapers. -- Muriel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 1:36 PM Subject: Post 1901 Census - letter to Ottawa Citizen Greetings All. FYI. A letter just sent to the Editor of the Ottawa Citizen. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted ----- Original Message ----- From: Gordon A. Watts To: letters@thecitizen.canwest.com Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 10:27 AM Subject: Grits stack House agenda 30 April 2005 Editor, Ottawa Citizen. Re: 'Grits stack House agenda to delay defeat' (Ottawa Citizen 29 April 2005, p. A1). While MPs hassle over whether a federal election will be called before or after Justice Gomery brings down his report about who did what in regards the Adscam scandal, genealogists and historians are bombarding Party and House leaders, and their own MPs, with emails and faxes. Their goal is to see all parties get together to debate and pass Second and Third Readings of Bill S-18 - An Act to amend the Statistics Act in a single day. Bill S-18 passed Third Reading in the Senate 20 April 2005 and received First Reading in the House the following day. If it passes in the House and receives Royal Assent before an election is called it will resolve an issue that has been ongoing for more than twenty years - that of public access to Historic Census records, 92 years after collection. If it does not, genealogists and historians will have to start their efforts over again - for the FIFTH time. Existing legislation permits the access sought but it has been withheld because of a 'policy decision' by Statistics Canada. Bill S-18 is a government Bill. It has the support of the Chief Statistician of Canada, the National Librarian and Archivist, and the Privacy Commissioner. The Canada Census Committee, the Canadian Historical Association and the Association of Canadian Archivists support it. The access it would provide was supported by the report of an Expert Panel appointed by the government in 1999 and by a series of Town Hall meetings in 2000/2001. 210 Members of Parliament, including all four House Leaders and three of four Party leaders, are currently on record as supporting the access we seek. More than 75,000 signatures supporting that access have been sent to the House of Commons and the Senate. Since 1998, our efforts to regain the public access to Historic Census records we are entitled to have seen seven Parliamentary Sessions in four governments. We have seen three elections and are currently looking at the possibility of a fourth. We have seen five Ministers of Industry (responsible for Statistics Canada), three Privacy Commissioners and two Information Commissioners. We have seen at least three Private Member Motions and four Private Member Bills in the House of Commons, two Private Senator Bills and now two government Bills in the Senate. At times we have been advised by MPs and Senators that this issue has generated more correspondence to them than any other subject. Each time it appeared we were close to achieving our goal, a Session was prorogued or an election was called, causing any Bills or Motions to die on the Order Paper. We call upon ALL Members of Parliament - please expedite passage of Bill S-18 by foregoing the Committee and Report stages - pass Second and Third Readings in a single day. An estimated 7.5 million genealogists and historians in Canada wish to spend their summer and beyond researching the long overdue records of the 1911 Census of Canada, rather than having to continue the fight to see them released. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC

----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 1:08 AM Subject: Post 1901 Census - Help needed for Fax blitz Greetings All. A couple of years ago we conducted a short, concentrated effort by fax machine to bring the Post 1901 Census issue to the attention of then Industry Minister Alan Rock. It did not then give us the immediate public access we sought to Historic Census records, but it did get his attention. We hope that in the next few days we can duplicate the success of that effort, but this time by faxing the Prime Minister, Minister of Industry, Minister of Canadian Heritage, and all House and Party leaders. If you have a fax machine at your disposal you can help to encourage the rapid passage of Bill S-18 in the House of Commons. Your message should be short and to the point, entailing no more than a single page. It must be sent separately to the individuals listed above, and your own Member of Parliament. For those who would entail long distance charges, rates are normally lower in the evenings, and possibly even lower after midnight. I copy below the message that I myself will be faxing. I have printed it off in larger than normal font size, in this case 16 point, to make it stand out. Feel free to use the wording here for your message. Make sure to date it, and include your full name, mailing address, and telephone number as I have done here. Otherwise your fax will likely be ignored. -------------------------------- 30 April 2005 To: Prime Minister Paul Martin Industry Minister David Emerson Minister of Canadian Heritage Liza Frulla All House and Party leaders All Members of Parliament Greetings We urge all House and Party leaders, and all Members of Parliament, to please join together to expedite passage of Bill S-18, An Act to amend the Statistics Act, by foregoing Committee and Report stages. We seek your cooperation to immediately pass Second and Third Readings of this Bill in a single day. We are concerned that this Bill must be passed and given Royal Assent prior to the possibility of an election being forced upon us. An estimated 7.5 million genealogists and historians (voters) in Canada wish to spend their summer, and beyond, researching the long overdue records of the 1911 Census of Canada, rather than having to continue the fight to see them released. Thank you. Gordon A. Watts Co-chair, Canada Census Committee 1455 Delia Drive Port Coquitlam, BC, V3C 2V9 Tel: 604-942-6889 Cel: 604-312-7447 Fax: 604-942-6843 ------------------------------ Fax numbers for the Prime Minister, Industry Minister, Heritage Minister, House leaders and Party leaders are as follows: Where more than one number is shown the first number shown is their personal office fax, while the second number is their departmental fax number where available. In some cases they are one and the same, or only one fax number has been found for them. Prime Minister Paul Martin (613) 941-6900 Tony Valeri - Government House Leader (613) 992-7764 - Department fax (613) 952-4940 David Emerson - Minister of Industry (613) 943-0219 - Department fax (613) 992-0302 Liza Frulla - Minister of Canadian Heritage (613) 995-6404 - Department fax (819) 994-1267 Stephen Harper - Leader of Opposition (Conservative) (613) 947-0310 Jay Hill - Opposition House Leader (Conservative) (613) 947-4527 Jack Layton - NDP Leader (613) 995-4565 Libbie Davies - NDP House Leader (613) 995-7412 Gilles Duceppe - Bloc Quebecios Leader (613) 954 2121 Michel Gauthier - Bloc Quebecios House Leader (613) 992-9954 Parliament resumes sitting on Monday 2 May. To make this effort effective, it is important that your faxes be sent in the next couple of days. Should you experience a problem connecting with the receiving fax machine it probably means that it has run out of paper. Try again the next day to give staff a chance to replentish the paper. Thank you all for your support. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted

This is not a well researched answer, but I can tell you that using the tools at : http://digital.library.mcgill.ca/Countyatlas/showtownship2.php?townshipid=gloucester there were no families named Innes in the Ottawa area about 1880 - or at least listed in the county atlases. Also checking the 1871 census, online at the archives, shows no Innes families east of Kingston. I don't know the actual origin of the Innes Road name, but closely inspecting the map at the link above shows no Innes families along that road. Many of the roads are named after landowners listed on the map and next to the road. Obviously I cannot tell if these were named after the owners listed here or other people of the same names. Steve O. At 12:17 30/04/2005, CATT wrote: >Would some kind and knowledgeable person, tell me any information >regarding the family after whom Innes Road in Gloucester, Carleton County, >Ontario, Canada is named? > >I presume that he was a early settler of the area, and perhaps a member of >an early council. I stand to be corrected. > > >==== CAN-ONT-CARLETON Mailing List ==== >Remember -- no query is ever too small, >someone may have the answer to add to your >family group sheets > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Not to far away in March Township, District of Johnstown there was a Robert Innes mentioned in 1823 as the Assessor. I don't have a clue if he was associated with the road though. Patrick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Ostrom" <ostrom749@rogers.com> To: <CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 5:46 PM Subject: Re: [Can-Ont-Carleton] Innes Road, Gloucester, Ontario > This is not a well researched answer, but I can tell you that using the > tools at : > > http://digital.library.mcgill.ca/Countyatlas/showtownship2.php?townshipid=gloucester > > there were no families named Innes in the Ottawa area about 1880 - or at > least listed in the county atlases. Also checking the 1871 census, online > at the archives, shows no Innes families east of Kingston. > > I don't know the actual origin of the Innes Road name, but closely > inspecting the map at the link above shows no Innes families along that > road. Many of the roads are named after landowners listed on the map and > next to the road. Obviously I cannot tell if these were named after the > owners listed here or other people of the same names. > > Steve O. > > > At 12:17 30/04/2005, CATT wrote: >>Would some kind and knowledgeable person, tell me any information >>regarding the family after whom Innes Road in Gloucester, Carleton County, >>Ontario, Canada is named? >> >>I presume that he was a early settler of the area, and perhaps a member of >>an early council. I stand to be corrected. >> >> >>==== CAN-ONT-CARLETON Mailing List ==== >>Remember -- no query is ever too small, >>someone may have the answer to add to your >>family group sheets >> >>============================== >>Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >>areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >>Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> > > > > ==== CAN-ONT-CARLETON Mailing List ==== > Genealogy is the heritage of all people -- > History of the decade being researched helps us > understand how our ancestors lived and worked. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Would some kind and knowledgeable person, tell me any information regarding the family after whom Innes Road in Gloucester, Carleton County, Ontario, Canada is named? I presume that he was a early settler of the area, and perhaps a member of an early council. I stand to be corrected.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 1:07 PM Subject: Post 1901 Census -- New column posted. Greetings All The latest of my columns on the Post 1901 Census issue is now posted and is online at http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/gazce/gazce115.htm Topics include: Progress of Bill S-18, including charts showing how each Senator voted on Third Reading of the Bill; Your assistance requested - again!; Letter from Ontario Genealogy Society; and LDS supports Bill S-18. Happy Hunting Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted

To all -- It seems one person gives a number, then another makes an error with one of the digits and we end up with a comedy of errors. This has happened with the recent April 20 letter from Jeff Paul, policy advisor for Senator Lorna Milne, a portion is printed below:- ------- I am very pleased to inform all of you that by a vote of 51-16, the Senate has passed Bill S-18 at third reading. It is now headed to the House of Commons where it must pass 3 readings before it becomes law. --------- First either Gordon or I made an error, making the number 59-16, which is incorrect. Gordon's column will be sent to Rick Roberts tomorrow, so we did some checking by telephone. Also a graph will be posted in the column and number remains 51 YEAS to 16 NAYS -- the graph will list Senators of each group and the Senatorial scoreboard will be updated accordingly. Check http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index6.htm There WERE 209 Members of Parliament before Paul DeVillers sent a very positive letter -- now we have 210. Many are sending emails to parliamentarians but do not expect a reply unless (1) the Member of Parliament knows you and (2) you give your complete address -- they like to know what part of the country we inhabit, whether Canada or United States. Some of the politicians prefer to write letters - I have received two this week, one GOLD and one GREEN. ----------- Katherine Fraser reminded us of the FAX numbers for ones suggested by Jeff Paul [FAXES are better than emails, when possible!!] Tony Valeri - 613-992-7764 Government House Leader - Valeri.T@parl.gc.ca David Emerson - 613-943-0219 Minister of Industry - Emerson.D@parl.gc.ca Jay Hill - 613-947-4527 Opposition House Leader (Conservative) - Hill.J@parl.gc.ca Stephen Harper - 613-947-0310 Leader of Opposition (Conservative) - Harper.S@parl.gc.ca Libby Davies - 613-995-7412 NDP House Leader - Davies.L@parl.gc.ca Jack Layton - 613-995-4565 NDP Leader - Layton.J@parl.gc.ca Michel Gauthier - 613-992-9954 Bloc Quebecios House Leader - Gauthier.M@parl.gc.ca Gilles Duceppe - 613-954-2121 Bloc Quebecios Leader - Duceppe.G@parl.gc.ca ----------------------------- Also from Jeff Paul's letter -- PUT IN YOUR OWN WORDS ONE email/FAX may be sent collectively to all -- saves time. * 210 current MPs are on public record as supporting the release of historic census records * Why the release of the records is important to you * The Information Commissioner, Privacy Commissioner, Chief Statistician, National Archivist, Canada Census Campaign, and Canadian Historical Association all support the bill * Acknowledge that this is a tough time for the house but that this is a non partisan bill * State that you do not take any side on whether or not there should be an election, your only concern is getting this bill through * ALL 4 HOUSE LEADERS HAVE GOLD TICKS * Jack Layton, Stephen Harper and David Emerson ALL HAVE GOLD TICKS * Statistics Canada needs a decision on this bill right away so final preparations can be made on the 2006 Census If you are concerned about writing to a Bloc Quebecois member in English, you may start your email by stating "Je suis désolé, mais je n'écrit pas en Français. J'espérais que vous preniez le temps de considerer cette lettre." -------------------- Should we make further errors, we will gladly report same and hope all understand our computers have been very busy!!! Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee 25 Crestview Avenue, Brampton, ON L6W 2R8 http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census Check: Progress of Bill S-18

To all:- I will add my Two Cents Worth!! The letters that have been posted to either Gordon or myself are few in comparison to the number on the CCC mail list, the Committee and others -- I have saved all sent to me. If many desiring census release sent a letter to his/her own MP, plus the ones suggested by Jeff Paul, there would be a great deal of reading material awaiting the Members of Parliament after their expense-paid vacation or week break. Also no BLUE remains in the Region of Peel! Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 1:36 PM Subject: Post 1901 Census - Hansard extracts updated Greetings All. Although somewhat belated, Hansard extracts for the final session of Third Reading of Bill S-18 in the Senate on 20 April 2005, and First Reading in the House of Commons on 21 April 2005, have been added to the Post 1901 Census Project website (at the URL following my signature). First Reading of the Bill in the House of commons entails no debate -- simply presentation of the Bill. The final session in the Senate, however, gives the recorded vote of those Senators present when Bill S-18 passed Third Reading by vote of 51-16. See how the Senators for your area voted on this important Census Bill. As soon as I have time, the Senators Scoreboard will be updated to reflect the positions of those Senators who voted on the Bill. An urgent reminder to All. It is imperative that everyone send messages to the leaders and house leaders of all federal political parties, urging them to fast-track and pass Bill S-18 before Parliament recesses for the summer, or an election is forced upon us. IF BILL S-18 IS NOT PASSED BEFORE THIS HAPPENS, WE ARE LOOKING AT STARTING OVER AGAIN - FOR THE FOURTH OR FIFTH TIME. It can be done if the Committee stage is bypassed and Second and Third Readings take place on the same day. All MPs have fax machines. Telephone numbers for those fax machines are listed on their Correspondence Logs accessible through the MP Scoreboard of the Post 1901 Census Project website. Those having fax capabilities might ensure that the party leaders and MPs have some reading material available on their return to Parliament this coming Monday. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted

To all:- How many have written letters as requested by Jeff Paul, Senator Lorna Milne's policy advisor? Very possibly all have, but have not copied them to either Gordon Watts or myself as yet. http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index6.htm I know the Members of Parliament are "visiting" various parts of the country this week, but please get the message to all, even if he or she has a GOLD tick, that we would like to have a quick passage of Bill S-18. This government bill has been talked about, debated, has had First and Second Reading, Committee, then Third Reading when Senator Lowell Murray surprised all of us. The vote was 59 to 16 and when Gordon has time, he will be posting the YES and the NO Senators. We understand First Reading has already taken place so will check Hansard for this. However, knowing the past history of any census bills, we do not want this dumped in File 13 should an election be called. Just in case -- IF anyone has census petitions ready to send, please do so -- Gordon and I will keep these -- he may send House of Commons ones -- I will store Senate and Non-Resident. Keep watching to http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census for any additional bits and pieces relating to Bill S-18. Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee 25 Crestview Avenue, Brampton, ON L6W 2R8

Hi everyone: I just want to make you all aware, that the Order Paper in the House of Commons works very differently than in the Senate. In the Senate everything on the Order Paper can be debated every day. That is not the case in the House of Commons. Only those items on the Projected Order of Business can be debated on any given day in the House. To keep track of what is going on in the House, follow this link: http://www.parl.gc.ca/38/1/parlbus/chambus/house/projected/projected-E.htm Jeff Paul Policy Advisor Office of the Hon. Lorna Milne Ph: 613-947-9744 Cel: 613-715-2965 ========== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 2:05 AM Greetings All. It would appear that even though I missed seeing it in the Order Paper for today (Thursday), Bill S-18 must already have received First Reading in the House of Commons. The Order Paper for tomorrow (Friday 22 April 2005), under 'Orders of the Day' and 'Government Bills (Senate)' reads as follows: "S-18 --- April 21, 2005 --- The Minister of Industry -- Second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Industry, Natural Resources, Science and Techmology of Bill S-18, An Act to amend the Statistics Act." Unlike debates in the Senate, debates in the House of Commons are televised live on CPAC so we can see what happens, as it happens. Hopefully during Second Reading debate tomorrow, one of the MPs speaking to the Bill will make a motion to proceed directly to Third Reading without the necessity of referring it to Committee. CPAC on StarChoice Satellite is on Channel 396. It will be on different channels for Bell ExpressVue Satellite and the various cable outlets across the country. As usual, Hansard extracts of the debates will be placed on the Post 1901 Census Project website. [On ROGERS, CPAC is shown on Channel 68] Please keep your messages going to MPs encouraging them to fast-track Bill S-18 through the House of Commons. It has been my practice to respond individually to those sending copies of their letters to thank them for their support. The volume of messages received as a result of Jeff Paul's request to send emails to the Party Leaders, seeking passage of Bill S-18 in a single day, makes it impossible to send individual messages of thanks. For those who have sent us copies of their emails, please accept this as our thanks to you for your support. [My thanks are also included for the MANY messages-- Muriel M. Davidson] Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted

To all:- In case all readers have not heard, The Rt. Hon. Paul Martin will speak to all Canadians this evening following the CTV evening news. Time of the Prime Minister's speech is set at 7:00 P.M. (EST) and will last for one-half hour. Should readers desire to hear his speech, please change the time of your time zone. Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Brampton, ON

David McGuinty - MP, Ottawa South You may not have heard as yet, but Bill S-18 was passed today in the Senate following Third Reading with a majority of 59-16. It will now be on its way to the House of Commons where hopefully it will be fast-tracked. Bill S-18 is non-partisan and will allow release of the 1911 to 2001 census records at 10-year intervals. The 1911 census was due for release June 1, 2003. Researchers will be pleased to know the bill has been approved by the Information Commissioner, Privacy Commissioner, Chief Statistician, National Archivist, Canada Census Committee and Canadian Historical Association. Will you be voting in favour of Bill S-18? Your constituents may like you to do so. Please let me know by email -- a note from your secretary will do, due to lack of time. http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Score3.htm#ON Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee 25 Crestview Avenue, Brampton, ON L6W 2R8 http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census

Greetings All. I forward FYI the following message from Jeff Paul. It needs no further explanation from me. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul, Jeff: SEN" <PAULJ@SEN.PARL.GC.CA> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 12:30 PM Subject: [CCC] BILL S-18 PASSES AT THIRD READING!!!! Dear Friends: I am very pleased to inform all of you that by a vote of 51-16, the Senate has passed bill S-18 at third reading. It is now headed to the House of Commons where it must pass 3 readings before it becomes law. As you all know, it is a minority parliament in Ottawa these days, and as a result, there could be an election at any time. This bill will die if an election is called, and we will have to start again. We need to let Members of the House of Commons know that we want this bill passed before the next election. We also need to urge all parties to get together to pass this bill in one day. So I'd like each and every one of you to write an email AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, and no later than Friday afternoon to all of the following people: Tony Valeri - Government House Leader - Valeri.T@parl.gc.ca David Emerson - Minister of Industry - Emerson.D@parl.gc.ca Jay Hill - Opposition House Leader (Conservative) - Hill.J@parl.gc.ca Stephen Harper - Leader of Opposition (Conservative) - Harper.S@parl.gc.ca Libbie Davies - NDP House Leader - Davies.L@parl.gc.ca Jack Layton - NDP Leader - Layton.J@parl.gc.ca Michel Gauthier - Bloc Quebecios House Leader - Gauthier.M@parl.gc.ca Gilles Duceppe - Bloc Quebecios Leader - Duceppe.G@parl.gc.ca You should write one email to all of them collectively. You should write a brief note in your own words. Every email must request that all parties get together to agree to pass S-18 in one day. Some of the points you may want to make in the email would include: * 209 current MPs are on public record as supporting the release of historic census records * Why the release of the records is important to you * The Information Commissioner, Privacy Commissioner, Chief Statistician, National Archivist, Canada Census Campaign, and Canadian Historical Association all support the bill * Acknowledge that this is a tough time for the house but that this is a non partisan bill * State that you do not take any side on whether or not there should be an election, your only concern is getting this bill through * ALL 4 HOUSE LEADERS HAVE GOLD TICKS * Jack Layton, Stephen Harper and David Emerson ALL HAVE GOLD TICKS * Statistics Canada needs a decision on this bill right away so final preparations can be made on the 2006 Census If you are concerned about writing to a Bloc Quebecois member in English, you may start your email by stating "Je suis désolé, mais je n'écrit pas en Français. J'espérais que vous preniez le temps de considerer cette lettre." PLEASE do not forward this email directly to parliamentarians. It is a million times more effective when it comes in your own words. If you have EVER written a letter in support of this campaign, I ask that you take this one additional step for us. THIS IS WITHOUT A DOUBT THE MOST IMPORTANT EMAIL REQUEST WE'VE EVER MADE. We need all hands on deck for this one. PLEASE WRITE IMMEDIATELY AND MAKE SURE THAT YOUR EMAIL IS SENT OUT BY FRIDAY IF AT ALL POSSIBLE. The House is not sitting next week and we need to keep up the momentum. Thank you so much for all of your help, and we hope that we can count on you one more time. Yours truly, Jeff Paul Policy Advisor Office of the Hon. Lorna Milne Ph: 613-947-9744 Cel: 613-715-2965

The noise you may be hearing is HOORAY!!!!! - MMD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 5:40 PM Subject: Post 1901 Census -- Senate S-18 Vote Scheduled Greetings All. I am very pleased to be able to forward the following message from Jeff Paul, Policy Advisor to Senator Lorna Milne. This is indeed very welcome news. Because the vote did not take place at the time of debate I expect that it will be a recorded vote and I will update the Senator's Scoreboard to reflect the votes cast by the Senators. Senator Murray and I have had our differences over the past several years but if his speech and vote reflect what Jeff says, not only will I give him his Gold Tick, but I will be more than happy to write to him, thanking him personally for his support. While not immediately clear from his opening paragraph it appears the vote will be taken tomorrow (Wednesday). I would suggest anyone able to, to take advantage of Jeff's suggestion to attend the visitor's gallery for the vote and, if it does not break any protocol, to express our appreciation for seeing the Bill finally pass from the Senate. I only wish that I could be there myself. [Note from Jeff:- The vote will be tomorrow -- Wednesday] Final debate of Bill S-18 in the Senate will be posted on the Post 1901 Census Project website as soon after I can access the Hansard transcript on Wednesday morning. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul, Jeff: SEN" <PAULJ@SEN.PARL.GC.CA> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:52 PM Subject: [CCC] Senate S-18 Vote Scheduled On behalf of Senator Milne I am very pleased to let you all know that debate at 3rd reading of S-18 concluded in the Senate today. A vote has been scheduled for the Senate Chamber at 2:45 pm Ottawa time (11:45am for Gordon). This will be the final vote on S-18 before it goes on to the House of Commons. Kudos should go out to Senator Lowell Murray. Years ago Senator Murray fought to keep the historic census private, but today he announced in a very classy speech that he will be supporting the government's initiative. I hope that Gordon will have his big gold checkmark up before the vote tomorrow. Anyone who is interested in being in the gallery for the vote should contact me right away either by email or at the numbers below. We can meet at the East Bock at 2:00pm SHARP. We will proceed to the Senate Chamber and watch the vote from there. You will also get a taste of Question Period and some Senate debate. Gordon and Muriel, would you please pass this information on to all of your lists as soon as possible. Yours truly, Jeff Paul Policy Advisor Office of the Hon. Lorna Milne Ph: 613-947-9744 Cel: 613-715-2965

Thank you to all of you who worked so diligently on this!! I have great hopes of tracing my Canadian (and Scottish) ancestors with the goal of connecting with living Canadian relatives! Best Regards, Carol Madison, WI ------ Original Message ------ Received: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:59:18 PM EST From: "Muriel M. Davidson" <muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca> To: CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Can-Ont-Carleton] Post 1901 Census -- Senate S-18 Vote Scheduled The noise you may be hearing is HOORAY!!!!! - MMD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 5:40 PM Subject: Post 1901 Census -- Senate S-18 Vote Scheduled Greetings All. I am very pleased to be able to forward the following message from Jeff Paul, Policy Advisor to Senator Lorna Milne. This is indeed very welcome news. Because the vote did not take place at the time of debate I expect that it will be a recorded vote and I will update the Senator's Scoreboard to reflect the votes cast by the Senators. Senator Murray and I have had our differences over the past several years but if his speech and vote reflect what Jeff says, not only will I give him his Gold Tick, but I will be more than happy to write to him, thanking him personally for his support. While not immediately clear from his opening paragraph it appears the vote will be taken tomorrow (Wednesday). I would suggest anyone able to, to take advantage of Jeff's suggestion to attend the visitor's gallery for the vote and, if it does not break any protocol, to express our appreciation for seeing the Bill finally pass from the Senate. I only wish that I could be there myself. [Note from Jeff:- The vote will be tomorrow -- Wednesday] Final debate of Bill S-18 in the Senate will be posted on the Post 1901 Census Project website as soon after I can access the Hansard transcript on Wednesday morning. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul, Jeff: SEN" <PAULJ@SEN.PARL.GC.CA> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:52 PM Subject: [CCC] Senate S-18 Vote Scheduled On behalf of Senator Milne I am very pleased to let you all know that debate at 3rd reading of S-18 concluded in the Senate today. A vote has been scheduled for the Senate Chamber at 2:45 pm Ottawa time (11:45am for Gordon). This will be the final vote on S-18 before it goes on to the House of Commons. Kudos should go out to Senator Lowell Murray. Years ago Senator Murray fought to keep the historic census private, but today he announced in a very classy speech that he will be supporting the government's initiative. I hope that Gordon will have his big gold checkmark up before the vote tomorrow. Anyone who is interested in being in the gallery for the vote should contact me right away either by email or at the numbers below. We can meet at the East Bock at 2:00pm SHARP. We will proceed to the Senate Chamber and watch the vote from there. You will also get a taste of Question Period and some Senate debate. Gordon and Muriel, would you please pass this information on to all of your lists as soon as possible. Yours truly, Jeff Paul Policy Advisor Office of the Hon. Lorna Milne Ph: 613-947-9744 Cel: 613-715-2965 ==== CAN-ONT-CARLETON Mailing List ==== List Admin for CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L: Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx