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    1. Fw: Post 1901 Census -- Another request for support messages!
    2. Muriel M. Davidson
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:31 AM Subject: Post 1901 Census -- Another request for support messages! Greetings All. After travelling much of today I returned home and tuned in the House of Commons debates on CPAC. As they were still debating the first item of Government Business listed in the Projected Order of Business (Bill C-48) my assumption is that Bill S-18 (third item on the POB) did not make it to the floor of the House of Commons. It remains as third item on the POB for tomorrow (Tuesday). Debate on the two items preceeding S-18 on the POB promise to be extensive A news item on CTV reports that a Notice of Motion has been made by the government, announcing their intention to seek an extension of the House sitting days beyond 23 June 2005. This Motion, if passed, could provide the time for S-18 to receive Third Reading debate. It might however, simply provide more time for debate of the two items currently preceding Bill S-18 on the POB. The government is most concerned with passing Bill C-48 (Budget Amendment) and C-38 (Same Sex Marriage). It would appear that all Parties, except the Conservatives, are prepared to sit through the Summer to see these Bills passed. We need to encourage our MPs to move Bill S-18 up on the agenda of the POB, and to deal with it in the quickest means possible. With that in mind, my 'informed source' has requested I forward the following: ==================== "An informed source in Ottawa urgently requests that the following MPs be contacted immediately to request that Bill S-18 be given Third Reading 'BY CONSENT' and see it submitted for Royal Assent forthwith. Brian Masse (NDP) Masse.B@parl.gc.ca Paul Créte (Bloc) Crete.P@parl.gc.ca Mauril Belanger (Liberal) Belanger.M@parl.gc.ca James Rajotte (Conservative) Rajotte.J@parl.gc.ca In your message, please stress the importance for the House of Commons of seizing this chance to demonstrate that Parliament is working effectively. Please emphasize the consistent and enthusiastic support of the Chief Statistician, the Privacy Commissioner, the Information Commissioner, and every single constituent who has ever communicated to any M.P. about this matter." ==================== I might suggest that you include you own MP when sending such a message. I caution again -- DO NOT SIMPLY COPY AND PASTE this message. USE YOUR OWN WORDS. Thank you all for your continued support. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted

    06/21/2005 04:36:16
    1. Post-1901 Census -- Could We Get Rid of Some of the BLUE ????
    2. Muriel M. Davidson
    3. The following was sent to BLUE MPs -- Raymond Chan, Ken Dryden, Diane Finley, Jim Karygiannis, David McGuinty, Yasmin Ratansi, Mario Silva, Lui Temelkovski, Borys Wrzesnewskyj, Todd Russell, John Efford, Bill Matthews ============== To all:- I have listed many of the Members of Parliament, some of whom are newcomers, voted in by constituents to represent them in Ottawa. The ones listed do not include the many from Quebec. It seems that voters have long memories -- this applies mainly to first time MPs -- especially family researchers. Bill S-18 is listed on the Projected Order of Business for June 20, tomorrow, when Third Reading is supposed to take place. We do not know when the Vote will take place, but all members of the Canada Census Committee will be tuned in to CPAC tomorrow. Many of us listened to the committee reports and were greatly enlightened as to the way committee members thought about Bill S-18, An Act to amend the Statistics Act. A quick email to me in the morning will change the numbers on the scoreboard for Members of Parliament from 214 out of 308 -- http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index6.htm Do I need a long detailed message? Believe it or not, several Members of Parliament have simply answered with one word -- YES -- that is sufficient as Gordon Watts and I know you. Let's raise the 214 just a bit higher -- we will be watching to see if any of those in the 214 vote NAY instead of YEA. Please remember -- if you have asked, many constituents are interested in family history -- to see who belongs to whom. Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee 25 Crestview Avenue, Brampton, ON L6W 2R8 http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 6/17/05

    06/19/2005 05:03:52
    1. S18 report
    2. Muriel M. Davidson
    3. Many thanks, Carol!! Just passing it on to several people. Muriel ----- Original Message ----- From: "tweetybird" <tweetybirdone@cogeco.ca> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:22 PM Subject: [CCC] S18 report 38th Parliament, 1st Session 38e Législature, 1re Session The Standing Committee on Industry, Natural Resources, Science and Technology has the honour to present its Le Comité permanent de l'industrie, des ressources naturelles, des sciences et de la technologie a l'honneur de présenter son SEVENTH REPORT SEPTIÈME RAPPORT In accordance with its Order of Reference of Monday, June 13, 2005, your Committee has considered Bill S-18, An Act to amend the Statistics Act, and agreed on Thursday, June 16, 2005, to report it without amendment. Conformément à son Ordre de renvoi du lundi 13 juin 2005, votre Comité a étudié le projet de loi S-18, Loi modifiant la Loi sur la statistique, et a convenu le jeudi 16 juin 2005, d'en faire rapport sans amendement. A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meetings Nos. 43 and 44) is tabled. Un exemplaire des Procès-verbaux pertinents (réunions nos 43 et 44) est déposé. Respectfully submitted, Respectueusement soumis, Le président, BRENT ST. DENIS Carol (tweetybird) HOMEPAGE:< http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tweetybirdgenealogy/ > VISIT MY HOME PAGE for information on "Home Children" & H.C. Passenger Lists as well as other "World Wide" Search links MY FAMILY TREE:< http://www.tweetybirdfamily.bravehost.com/ > SEARCHING; HART, HASLIP, JACKSON, JOHNS, GLOVER, STEVENS, LITTLE, RUSSELL. originating from LEIC. ENGLAND, WALES, N. IRELAND, Settling in NEW ZEALAND, AUSTRALIA, ONTARIO, NOVA SCOTIA & NEWFOUNDLAND/LABRADOR CANADA. U.S.A. -- N.Y. and Texas

    06/16/2005 04:53:19
    1. Fw: Post 1901 Census - S-18 amendments??
    2. Muriel M. Davidson
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:57 PM Subject: Post 1901 Census - S-18 amendments?? Greetings All. I am concerned regarding the suggestion that MP Werner Schmidt is going to move an amendment to Bill S-18 that if passed, would limit the information from Historic Census that would be allowed to be released to public access. There are a couple of things that bother me about this, not the least of which is that in my view, for Conservatives to be making such motions they would be breaking the commitments they made to us earlier in stating that public access to Historic Census records after 92 years was a policy of the Conservative party. In earlier correspondence from them, including from their leader, they stated that 92 years closure was a reasonable period after which the records should be available. It is only with their recent 'form letter' responses that they have been referring to release only of so-called 'tombstone' information. We have been dealing with this issue for a long time now. We have previously been advised that records from 1911 to 1996 have been microfilmed and there is no way to separate 'tombstone' information from the rest of the records. Considering that to be fact, we are in an 'all or nothing' situation. Prior to Bill S-18 being introduced in the Senate leaders of the Census campaign were advised, in general terms, what the Bill would contain. We were advised that the government would not consider introducing a bill that did not include the 'informed consent' clause. None of the leaders of the campaign liked, or wanted, an 'informed consent' clause for future Censuses in the Bill. However, considering that S-18, as worded, would give us *unrestricted* access to all records from 1911 to 2001 all leaders committed, albeit some (including myself) reluctantly, to support Bill S-18 without seeking amendment to remove the 'informed consent' provisions. Should the Committee reviewing Bill S-18 seriously entertain or allow motions to amend that would restrict the access allowed to past Censuses, and in fact pass such amendments, this would in my view, give us reason to reconsider our commitment to not seek amendments ourselves. I sincerely hope the Committee will reject any such motions for amendment. It is my understanding that some on the Committee suggested extending their hearings to allow for genealogists to appear, but were advised that we wished to forego appearing in order to expedite things. I would personally liked to have appeared before them, but had I sought to do so there would be no way that anything would have been settled before Parliament recessed for the Summer. In the interest of expediting the process I chose not to appear before the Committee, choosing instead to simply make a written submission -- and an abbreviated one at that. Should ANY amendments to Bill S-18 be passed or recommended by the Committee I will very much regret not seeking to appear before them. If, for any reason Bill S-18 is not passed before the Summer recess, I will be seeking to appear before the Committee. Much of the debate in the House appeared to focus on concern regarding what questions were asked on Census forms, and whether or not such questions should in fact be asked. In point of fact, many of us have similar concerns. However this has nothing whatsoever to do with the purpose of Bill S-18. It could very well be a topic for a future Bill, but not for debate regarding Bill S-18. A point that those debating S-18 have forgotten, or perhaps have deliberately chosen to ignore, is the fact that existing legislation, in the form of clauses of the Access to Information and Privacy Acts, and Privacy Regulations, clearly and specifically states our entitlement to the unrestricted access we seek for 92-year-old Census records. In point of fact, the access we seek has not been withheld from us because of any prohibitive legislation, or because of any direction of the government. It has been withheld simply because of a departmental 'policy' whereby control of the records would not be returned to the National Archivist - who should have had that control to begin with. Happy Hunting Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted

    06/16/2005 08:13:58
    1. [CCC] S-18 hearings
    2. Muriel M. Davidson
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul, Jeff: SEN" <PAULJ@SEN.PARL.GC.CA> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 5:57 PM Subject: [CCC] S-18 hearings Hi there everyone: I don't have time for a long update, but here in a nutshell is what happened in committee. The committee heard from Ivan Fellegi, the information commissioner and the privacy commissioner. The information commissioner pushed for amendments that would broaden access to the census, but it was not well received by the committee. Felelgi and the privacy commissioner were very happy with the compromise, and made that clear. The reception of the evidence was decidedly mixed. Mr. Schmidt indicated that he will be introducing an amendment that would limit the release of census information to tombstone information. The Liberals and one of the Bloc members were quite clearly opposed to that suggestion. The NDP member was generally supportive. Some wanted to extend the hearings to allow for genealogists to come and appear before the committee, but were told that you all wanted to skip the appearance and get on with things. Clause by clause analysis of the bill will happen tomorrow morning at 9:30am in room 208 West Block. Jeff Paul Policy Advisor Office of the Hon. Lorna Milne Ph: 613-947-9744 Cel: 613-715-2965

    06/15/2005 12:35:16
    1. Post 1901 Census - A thank you
    2. Muriel M. Davidson
    3. To all:- Not being lazy, but I will add my sincere thanks for the wonderful card received from the OGS Seminar 2005. My years of volunteering started "way back when" at the Nova Scotia Mental Hospital, and in Ontario at the nursing homes -- where a smile from an elderly person made me feel very rich. Yes, volunteers are unpaid -- but a card with many names makes one feel as if the volunteer has caught the well-known brass ring!! Many, many thanks! Muriel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 12:09 PM Subject: Post 1901 Census - A thank you Greetings All. In Tuesday's mail (the slow kind from Canada Post) both Muriel and I received a pleasant surprize in the form of large, poster-sized cards sent to us by the organizers of the OGS Seminar 2005, held in Windsor, Ontario on 27 -29 May 2005. The cards thanked us for our efforts in seeking the return of public access to Historic Census records. They had hundreds of signatures on them from those attending Seminar 2005. Many of the signatures I recognized as belonging to those who have posted messages to the mail lists, signed petitions and written letters in support of the access we seek. People who volunteer (for whatever cause or organization) seldom do it for the thanks they get. Many times they spend their entire volunteer career without ever receiving a 'thank you'. It is always a pleasant surprize when someone gives you an 'attaboy'. Muriel will likely also post about this, but on her behalf and mine, I gratefully accept the 'thanks' expressed by these cards. I accept it not only on our behalf, but on behalf of all Canada Census Committee members and all individuals who have helped us in our campaign. Hopefully our efforts have not been in vain, and we will soon be researching the 1911 Census and be anxiously be awaiting the arrival of subsequent Censuses. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted

    06/15/2005 07:48:23
    1. Fw: Post 1901 Census - Fw: Committee meetings
    2. Muriel M. Davidson
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 12:59 PM Subject: Post 1901 Census - Fw: Committee meetings Greetings All. FYI Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul, Jeff: SEN To: Gordon A. Watts Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:12 AM Subject: RE: Committee meetings I took your email as an opportunity to call the clerk of the committee. The meeting is going to go ahead on Wednesday at 3:30 pm and it will be open to the public. You will see that the notice for the original Wednesday meeting has been taken off of the website. If anyone wants to go, they should go directly to the West Block for 3:15pm tomorrow and head up to the committee room. I'll meet them there. Jeff Paul Policy Advisor Office of the Hon. Lorna Milne Ph: 613-947-9744 Cel: 613-715-2965 From: Gordon A. Watts [mailto:gordon_watts@telus.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 12:12 PM To: Paul, Jeff: SEN Subject: Committee meetings Importance: High Hi Jeff. The Senate Committee meetings were open to the public. I am being asked if the same thing applies to the Industry Committee when they consider S-18. The Committee website shows the meeting being held 'In Camera'. Does that mean no public gallery will be available? If the hearings are open to the public, how should anyone wishing to attend proceed? Gordon

    06/14/2005 08:10:12
    1. Fw: Post 1901 Census - S-18 debate from Hansard posted
    2. Muriel M. Davidson
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 12:08 PM Subject: Post 1901 Census - S-18 debate from Hansard posted Greetings All. Yesterday's Second Reading debate of Bill S-18 from Hansard has now been posted to the Post 1901 Census Project website at the URL following my signature. Follow the Link 'Progress of Bill S-18'. As I write this only the English language version has been posted. I will add the French language version as soon as I can edit out the extraneous HTML language. I will later post the submission I have made to the House Committee that will be considering Bill S-18. For those who would also make a submission to the Committee, the email address is INDU@parl.gc.ca The Committee is expected to meet tomorrow (Wednesday 15 June) so if you are considering making a submission it should be done as soon as possible today. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted

    06/14/2005 06:57:41
    1. S-18 debate
    2. Muriel M. Davidson
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul, Jeff: SEN" <PAULJ@SEN.PARL.GC.CA> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 8:59 AM Subject: RE: [CCC] S-18 debate There are a few issues that I hope I can clear up from the various messages over night. The time that is going to be required for committee and 3rd reading is, unfortunately, infinitely variable. That having been said, I've got some information. It is my understanding that the bill is going to be in front of the Industry committee on Wednesday. I think that they sent out a notice for a general meeting just so all of the committee members blocked off their schedule for that day in case S-18 got through. It is very hard to say how many meetings it will take for the bill to finish. That again is a product of negotiations among all of the parties, and we will have to wait and see. After committee, it must also clear report stage and 3rd reading in the House before it becomes law. It might not do that before the end of the summer, but that is probably alright. I just want to make it clear what is meant by the end of a "session". That has a technical meaning on the Hill. It means the time between throne speeches. It is true that 3rd reading must be completed in this session, or else we lose all of our progress and have to start all over again. So as long as there is no throne speech in the fall, we are in the same session, and the bill could pick up in September where we leave it in June, provided that we don't finish it. I am quite certain that we will continue to make progress between now and the end of June. The only question is how much progress. If there are amendments made to S-18 it certainly does complicate things. The bill comes back to the Senate and would likely be referred to committee for review before going back to the Senate floor for a final vote. I don't think that there really is any appetite for amendments on this one. That is just my feeling. But they will certainly be proposed by the Conservatives and discussed. I don't anticipate that the Liberal Party will support any amendments. I will watch things closely and will keep everyone up to date as things move along. Jeff Paul Policy Advisor Office of the Hon. Lorna Milne Ph: 613-947-9744 Cel: 613-715-2965 -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Leonard [mailto:bleonard@sympatico.ca] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 8:48 PM To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CCC] S-18 debate What I heard is that it passed Second Reading and has been sent to Committee. Hope someone can explain the time period involved in going to, and being in, committee and can it get through and onto 3rd reading before end of this session? Some of the speakers seemed to be for the Bill but wanted amendments made or proposed by the Committee. If there are proposed amendments, does this complicate the process? It was amazing to see how a MP would ask a question of another MP, who would then skate around the answer, but Not answer the question, and then proceed to bring up another matter altogether.

    06/14/2005 06:02:15
    1. Post 1901 Census - S-18 debate makes it to the House
    2. Muriel M. Davidson
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 9:28 PM Subject: Post 1901 Census - S-18 debate makes it to the House Greetings All Second Reading of Bill S-18 finally made it to the floor of the House of Commons today (Monday 13 June) with MP Lloyd St. Amand opening debate. Debate started in the afternoon (my afternoon in BC). Following a passed deferred vote on a motion that the House sit until midnite each day from 13 June to 23 June, debate on S-18 continued until about 7:35 PM PDT. At that time the House was unanimous in referring Bill S-18 to the House Standing Committee on Industry, Natural Resources, Science and Technology. Two MPs, Lloyd St. Amand and Marc Boulainne, who have never responded to our questions of support, but spoke in favour of access, will be receiving Gold Ticks on the MPs Scoreboards. Werner Schmidt, currently shown as supporting access will see a Red X of Opposition replace his Gold Tick. There were too many MPs speaking to the Bill, or asking questions of those who did, to list here with summaries of their comments. I will have the debate of S-18 placed on the Post 1901 Census project website as soon as possible after I can access Hansard in the morning (Tuesday). I will post a message when it is available. The Committee to which Bill S-18 has been referred is scheduled to meet from 3:30 to 5:30 PM (ET) on Wednesday 15 June 2005. As I write this the only thing shown on the agenda for that meeting is 'Committee Business'. It is my understanding however, that Bill S-18 has been expected to be referred and that the Committee is prepared to proceed with discussion of it at that time. With the number of MPs who indicated during debate they wished to appear before the Committee, and the fact that at least one, and perhaps two MPs intend to move amendments to it, it appears to me unlikely that it will be reported back to the House after only one meeting. Should a motion to amend be successful, it would mean S-18 would have to be returned to the Senate for futher debate. To become law, a Bill must be approved in both the Senate and the House with identical wording. Let us hope that any proposed amendments are rejected. Unfortunately the Parliamentary Webcast website shows the Committee meeting will be held 'in camera' and so will not be available over the Internet. Jeff Paul advises me that he will be in attendance and hopefully he will post something about what takes place. I will be seeking to have the Clerk of the Committee send me a copy of the unrevised transcript of the meeting. I will be on the road on Wednesday but will have my laptop and cellphone with me. I will let you know if I am advised of any information coming out of the Committee meeting. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted

    06/13/2005 05:04:55
    1. Post 1901 Census - Another gold tick awarded!
    2. Muriel M. Davidson
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 2:49 PM Subject: Post 1901 Census - Another gold tick awarded! Greetings All. With a Gold Tick of Support awarded today to Bloc MP Pierre Paquette, we are now up to 213 Members of Parliament who have expressed support for the public access to Historic Census records that we seek to have returned to us. There are currently 37 MPs that have given non-committal responses to our questions of support, 1 that has responded negatively, and 57 who have not afforded us the courtesy of any kind of response at all. Check the Scoreboards at the Post 1901 Census Project website to see how your MP has responded --- or check the following. http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index6.htm Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted

    06/13/2005 04:54:53
    1. Post-1901 Census:- Prepare For A Busy Two Days!
    2. Muriel M. Davidson
    3. To all:- During the past several days, we have been watching and listening to dialogue from the House of Commons. Much of it has been very interesting, especially the Employment Insurance proposed changes. I hope these are implemented especially the separate fund, less weeks prior to receiving, ability to earn a certain amount while receiving benefits, compassionate care benefits, plus more. We have heard the proposed budget discussed at great length, those mysterious tapes, but my interest was held today by one Motion - M-153. Peter Julian proposed this motion desiring a national monument, plus monetary care for firemen killed in line of duty. [My brother and his son are both firefighters and paramedics]. However, with all the lengthened discussions, Bill S-18 failed to make it to the floor of the House of Commons. We did unite as a single group and do our best -- with possibly the best reply from Don Tate, with his ability to tell how many search the Grand Banks site yearly. One email from a Quebec committee member was perplexing, as I thought everyone knew the space for our census data was provided by Global Genealogy. The only other census site is my personal one, a coast to coast to coast one, representing all provinces. On Monday the program is as follows:- Bill C-259, Bill C-43, Bill C-26 and then Bill S-18. Also on Monday The Hon. Gilles Duceppe is expected to have made up his mind if he plans to stay as a Member of Parliament or return to Quebec and hopefully become Premier. As Mike Duffy stated, this would be as leader of the possible future Republic of Quebec. Tuesday evening at 10:00 P.M. [Ottawa time}, there will be the vote on the budget and this could be a deciding factor if we have an election now or later. The people of the country need the budget passed -- employment, health and more. Check http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index6.htm There are many Members of Parliament who have NEVER replied to anyone -- the addresses are there -- stress how important Bill S-18 is, and request a reply by email -- do not forget your personal address. Send some emails -- but get rested for a busy week ahead! Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee 25 Crestview Avenue, Brampton, ON L6W 2R8 http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census et http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/index-f.htm Permission to forward is granted

    06/10/2005 06:08:59
    1. Post 1901 Census - URGENT EMAIL REQUEST!!!!
    2. Muriel M. Davidson
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:58 PM Subject: Post 1901 Census - URGENT EMAIL REQUEST!!!! Greetings All. The message below was forwarded from the Office of Senator Lorna Milne. As requested for my message yesterday, please DO **NOT** COPY AND FORWARD THIS MESSAGE to the Members indicated below. USE YOUR OWN WORDS. Your message need not be lengthy. Keep to the key points that time is of the essence in seeing Bill S-18 processed through the House as expeditiously as possible. With other business possibly considered more pressing it appears unlikely that S-18 will soon be debated in the House of Commons. With this in mind we seek consent of the House to have Bill S-18 deemed to have passed Second Reading (without debate) and Referral to Committee so that those MPs wishing to speak to the Bill might do so in Committee. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul, Jeff: SEN" <PAULJ@SEN.PARL.GC.CA> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 9:34 AM Subject: [CCC] URGENT EMAIL REQUEST!!!! Hi there gang: It seems that Parliament might be running out of time to get S-18 passed. All parties have indicated their support for the bill, but there are some MPs who want to speak at second reading. With so much going on in such a short time, it will now be difficult to secure floor time for debate on S-18 in the House. So we need your help to encourage MPs who want to speak on the bill to air their concerns in committee. I would ask that you write to a few key MPs and encourage them to send the bill to committee without debate. Please signal to them that this is the best and most fair way to proceed. In particular I would suggest that you should write to the following MPs: Brian Masse (NDP) Masse.B@parl.gc.ca Paul Créte (Bloc Vice Chair of Industry Committee) Crete.P@parl.gc.ca James Rajotte (Conservative) Rajotte.J@parl.gc.ca Jay Hill (Conservative House Leader) Hill.J@parl.gc.ca Stephen Harper (Conservative Leader) Harper.S@parl.gc.ca Werner Schmidt (Conservative Vice Chair of Industry Committee) Schmidt.S@parl.gc.ca Michael Chong (Conservative Industry Committee member) Chong.M@parl.gc.ca Bradley Trost (Conservative Industry Committee member) Trost.B@parl.gc.ca John Duncan (Conservative Industry Committee member) Duncan.J@parl.gc.ca Our key message is that S-18 needs to be sent to Committee - specifically, this requires consent from all Parties to deem S-18 Reported to Committee (without debate). Senator Milne is fully supportive of this request and hopes that as many of you as humanly possible send out an email ASAP. Thanks everyone! Jeff Paul Policy Advisor Office of the Hon. Lorna Milne Ph: 613-947-9744 Cel: 613-715-2965 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.6 - Release Date: 6/8/05

    06/10/2005 08:19:48
    1. Post 1901 Census - Request for support messages
    2. Muriel M. Davidson
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:13 AM Subject: Post 1901 Census - Request for support messages Greetings All. I have been asked to pass the following on to supporters of Bill S-18 and public access to Historic Census records. While known to me, the individual requesting this has asked to remain anonymous to the public. ========== "An informed source requests that e-mails of support [for Bill S-18] be immediately sent to four M.P.s: Brian Masse (NDP) Masse.B@parl.gc.ca Paul Créte (Bloc) Crete.P@parl.gc.ca Mauril Belanger (Liberal) Belanger.M@parl.gc.ca James Rajotte (Conservative) Rajotte.J@parl.gc.ca This source also expects a statement to be made in the House tomorrow [Friday 10 June] in order to advance the bill [S-18]." ========== In sending messages of support for Bill S-18 to these, or other MPs, please use your own words. Do not just copy this message to them. Thank you all for your support. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted

    06/09/2005 06:36:15
    1. Post 1901 Census - Bill S-18 on List TODAY
    2. Muriel M. Davidson
    3. Bill S-18 was NOT listed for the rest of the week -- but we get a surprise!! I estimate the time about 4 PM Who knows -- it could be a result of a letter I sent to several high-ranking politicians about the correct photo on my official committee webpage. We only want the result we all desire!! Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/committee.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leland Harvie" <lharvie@ca.inter.net> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 6:50 AM Subject: Re: [CCC] Post 1901 Census - House sitting days Gordon: S-18 is back on the Projected Order of Business again today, Wednesday 8 June; third after C-22 and C-26. http://www.parl.gc.ca/38/1/parlbus/chambus/house/projected/projected-E.htm Stay tuned for more high drama on CPAC which should come with a warning, "may cause nausea, viewers are strongly cautioned". Leland Harvie Halifax, Nova Scotia

    06/08/2005 06:35:50
    1. Post 1901 Census - House sitting days
    2. Muriel M. Davidson
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 1:01 PM Subject: Post 1901 Census - House sitting days Greetings All. Once again, even though Second Reading of Bill S-18 was listed on the Projected Order of Business for Monday 6 June 2005, it was not debated. It does not appear on the POB for today (Tuesday). Today and Thursday are 'allocated' days and so I do not expect S-18 to be on the agenda for Thursday either. As to Wednesday or Friday, it is anybodies guess. According to the Parliamentary Calendar, Friday would be the normal last day of sitting of the House of Commons. It would appear however that the sitting will be extended, possibly for another two weeks, until 23 June. On Thursday last, the Hon. Tony Valeri (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) gave a projection of the business expected to be conducted in the House for this week. Included in that projection were Bills C-43, C-22, S-18 and C-52. He made reference to the House sitting 'during the next three weeks', lending credence to the belief the House will sit until 23 June. In watching political news on CPAC last evening, an MP being interviewed (I forget which one) made reference to his party being prepared to sit 'into the summer' to deal with the issue being discussed. While this may be a possibility, I do not expect it to happen. With the 'form letter' responses being received from Conservative MPs re: our requests to 'fast-track' Bill S-18 by foregoing the Committee and Report stages of Bill S-18, I am not optimistic that this is likely to happen. While supporting the access we seek, these responses make reference to wishing to hear from the Chief Statistician and Privacy Commissioner, and that would not happen if the Committee stage were to be bypassed. It appears unlikely at this time that a Conservative MP would make a motion to pass S-18 in a single day, and should the government make such a motion there could be some oppostion to it. There has been some indication that the Committee to which Bill S-18 would be referred has been prepared to deal with it as expeditiously as possible. Presumably, with the expectation that it would be dealt with in the House and the referral made, indications are that S-18 may have been on the proposed agenda of the Committee a number of times. Unfortunately, as we all know, that referral has not yet been made. As I have indicated before, I am not optimistic that we will see passage of Bill S-18 before Parliament recesses for the summer. It would seem that we will once again be spending our summer fighting for the access we seek, rather than researching newly released records of the 1911 National Census records. I would love to be proven wrong in this. We need everyone to continue urging their MPs to support Bill S-18 to see it passed as quickly as possible. Do not allow them to think that we have given up seeking the access to Historic Census records that existing legislation states we are entitled to. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.5 - Release Date: 6/7/05

    06/07/2005 10:56:07
    1. Post-1901 Census -- A Very Welcome Letter
    2. Muriel M. Davidson
    3. OOPS! -- I meant there might be others speaking!! We will be doing the listening! Bill S-18 is listed for Monday morning, June 6 -- there may be others listening. Muriel Subject: RE: Bill S-18 Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 10:55:16 -0400 From: "Miller, Larry - M.P." <Miller.L@parl.gc.ca> Good morning, Mr. Miller has a speech prepared and is on the list of speakers if and when Bill S-18 comes up for debate. So far it has been delayed twice in the past month. It may come up again on June 6 or 8 and if so, we will post a copy of his speech on www.larrymiller.ca. He is defiintely in favour of the post-1901 census being released. Thank you for your comments. Regards Anna Marie Young Parliamentary Assistant Larry Miller, MP Bruce-Grey-Owen Sound 613-996-5191

    06/04/2005 05:22:16
    1. Post-1901 Census -- A Very Welcome Letter
    2. Muriel M. Davidson
    3. Bill S-18 is listed for Monday morning, June 6 -- there may be others listening. Muriel Subject: RE: Bill S-18 Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 10:55:16 -0400 From: "Miller, Larry - M.P." <Miller.L@parl.gc.ca> Good morning, Mr. Miller has a speech prepared and is on the list of speakers if and when Bill S-18 comes up for debate. So far it has been delayed twice in the past month. It may come up again on June 6 or 8 and if so, we will post a copy of his speech on www.larrymiller.ca. He is defiintely in favour of the post-1901 census being released. Thank you for your comments. Regards Anna Marie Young Parliamentary Assistant Larry Miller, MP Bruce-Grey-Owen Sound 613-996-5191 Muriel M. Davidson

    06/04/2005 05:20:07
    1. Post-1901 Census --Bill S-18 is listed for Monday
    2. Muriel M. Davidson
    3. Bill S-18 is listed for Monday, June 6 which just happens to be the anniversary of D-Day. We will have to see if anything happens! How about pleas to FAST-TRACK Bill S-18? Members of Parliament should be at home this weekend, also Albina Guarnieri is Minister of Veteran's Affairs, although she would not remember D-Day. Contacting heads of each party might help us. Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee 25 Crestview Avenue, Brampton, ON L6W 2R8 http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index6.htm ========================= MONDAY, JUNE 6, 2005 Private Members' Business M-195 — Ms. Dhalla (Brampton—Springdale) — Foreign Credential Recognition Program (resuming debate) Government Bills (Commons) C-22 — The Minister of Social Development — Department of Social Development Act — Third reading (resuming debate) C-26 — The Minister of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness — Canada Border Services Agency Act — Report stage (first time debated) S-18 — The Minister of Industry — An Act to amend the Statistics Act — Second reading (first time debated)

    06/02/2005 03:27:46
    1. Post 1901 Census - Projected Order of Business
    2. Muriel M. Davidson
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 3:27 PM Subject: Post 1901 Census - Projected Order of Business Greetings All In making the 'Weekly Statement", just now given in the House of Commons, regarding what business will be dealt with in the House of Commons for the coming week, Bill S-18 was included once again. It was not at the bottom of the list this time, but there were, I believe, three Bills listed ahead of it. With the number of Bills cited, and the number of Opposition Days yet to be allocated, it is looking more like the Session will not recess on 9 June, but will be extended for some as yet unspecified number of sitting days. This is simply speculation on my part as I have not yet seen anything official regarding this, and I have had no response from my query to the Parliament website. Time will tell. Happy Hunting Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted

    06/02/2005 01:08:55