I am not to sure if I'm at the right place or the spelling is correct. I'm trying to find Galt Ontario is the spelling correct & am I on the right list. I'm looking for Mary Elder born 1829 in Scotland who married Abraham Brown about 1850 I'm told they went over to Canada & Ontario that is all I know, & with a name like Brown I don't really expect to get very far. The only thing that may help Mary had a brother Turnbull Elder who also went over to Ontario That is all I have on the family Any assistance appreciated Bob Elder North East of England

Bob: Have you tried searching the LDS site for the 1881 census at: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "relder" <relder@tiscali.co.uk> To: <CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 3:18 AM Subject: [Can-Ont-Carleton] Galt > I am not to sure if I'm at the right place or the spelling is correct. > > I'm trying to find Galt Ontario is the spelling correct & am I on the right list. > > I'm looking for Mary Elder born 1829 in Scotland who married Abraham Brown about 1850 > I'm told they went over to Canada & Ontario that is all I know, & with a name like Brown I don't really expect to get very far. > > The only thing that may help Mary had a brother Turnbull Elder who also went over to Ontario > That is all I have on the family > > Any assistance appreciated > > > Bob Elder North East of England > > > > ==== CAN-ONT-CARLETON Mailing List ==== > Genealogy is the heritage of all people -- > History of the decade being researched helps us > understand how our ancestors lived and worked. > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

Many thanks, Ann -- it seems something is always being started to "upset the apple-cart"! I have used Inter-Library Loan Services and will leave it to members and subscribers to contact his or her Members of Parliament -- all should be at home during the summer. Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee ----- Original Message ----- From: "ann ritchie" <sawomri@mb.sympatico.ca> To: <NOVA-SCOTIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 11:35 PM Subject: [NS-L] INTER-LIBRARY LOAN AT RISK IN CANADA Just when the problem with the release of the 1911 census has been resolved, another seems to rearing its ugly head. Canada Post is in the process of preparing its new budget to take effect March 1, 2006, One of the changes is that libraries will no longer have a special postal rate to ship materials by mail on inter-library loan. The example given to me was a 4" x 7" x 3/4" paperback book which can currently go out on inter-library loan at a cost of 87 cents, effective March 1, 2006 will cost $7.44. There will be very few libraries that will be able to absorb this large increase. My local library has already decided that there will be no inter-library loan available once the new rate comes into effect. They cannot afford the extra cost. Lack of inter-library loan will not only affect those of us doing genealogy but also students, researchers, and every person who simply wishes to read a book that is not available at their local library. This is supposed to be the information age, but not every library has all needed information, not everything is available on the internet and not every home as a personal computer. Everyone will be affected regardless of whether they live in a rural area or in a major city. Once again it is necessary to email our members of parliament, the Prime Minister, Paul Martin, the minister responsible for Canada Post, John McCallum, the minister for Canadian Heritage, Liza Frulla and your local federal member of parliament. In this case, because most libraries also receive funding from the provinces and city and municipal governments, they should also be contacted. Canada Post will finalize their budget on Sept. 1, 2005, so there is some urgency in showing how much opposition there is to this increase. They would probably be happier if this proposed change did not become public knowledge, until they can say it to late for them to do anything, so send your letters and e-mails as soon as possible. A letter to the editor of your local newspaper might also bring this to the attention of more people Please pass this information on to any person or group you feel will be affected. Sometimes it takes a lot of voices to make them hear. E-mail addresses for Paul Martin: Martin.P@parl.gc.ca or pm@pm.gc.ca John McCallum: McCallum.J@parl.gc.ca Liza Frulla: Frulla.L@parl.gc.ca or frullll@parl.gc.ca The addresses for your other federal members of parliament can be found at: http://canadaonline.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&sdn=canadaonline&zu=http%3A%2F%22 Fwww.parl.gc.ca%2Finformation%2Fabout%2Fpeople%2Fhouse%2Fmpscur.asp%3Flang%3 DE One long URL, will require select, copy and paste. Click on the name of the member and on the next screen on "Contact Information" A. Ritchie

Request to be posted in Ontario -- Muriel ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Newbury" <georgen@ns.sympatico.ca> To: <muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 8:46 AM Subject: STEWART, Donald McG. - d. Feb 8, 1925 MA Muriel would you plse post this to your Ontario list/s i have another STEWART who owned the Halifax seed company he came from a Quebec/Ontario border community he may have sold the store to Donald thought there might be a connection but, it seems so far, not to be I have no idea where Donald McG. Stewart is buried as i cant seem to find anyone to look for him in the Boston paper there were no further Halifax obit updates thanks George = Tuesday, February 10, 1925 The Morning Chronicle, Halifax, N.S. Donald G. Stewart Word was received in Halifax, Monday morning of the death in the Massachusetts Eye and Ear Hospital, of Donald G. Stewart, aged 65 yrs, Proprietor of the Halifax Seed Company. The late Mr Stewart was well known in business circles throughtout the city. He left Halifax shortly before Christmas, to go to Port Arthur, Ontario. He was returning by way of Boston and was expected in the City shortly. The telegram news of his death gave no further information and arrangements for the funeral were not stated. Mrs Stewart was with her husband. - Monday, February 9, 1925 The Evening Mail, Halifax, N.S. Donald McG. Stewart Word was received in the city today of the death yesterday morning Feb 8th, in Boston of Donald McG. Stewart, proprietor of the Halifax Seed Store, Granville street. Two weeks ago as he was returning from a visit to friends in Port Arthur, he was taken ill and went to the Massachusetts Eye and Ear Infirmary, Boston, for treatment. He passed away at that institution early yesterday morning. He is survived by his wife. The deceased lived in Lanark, Ontario, as a young man and later worked in the Yukon and Brandon, Manitoba. He was also engaged for a time in inspection work for the National Transcontinental Railway, with headquarters in Ottawa. Coming to Halifax at the time of the explosion on reconstruction work, he bought out the Halifax Seed Store. He had travelled a great deal and was widely read. He was a member of the Halifax Curling Club and Rotary Club. - There's no death notice or obituary in the Halifax Herald He isn't buried in any of the Halifax cemeteries that I can find. - Might's, Halifax City Directory, Halifax, N.S. nil for 1918, 1919, 1920, 1921. in 1922, 1923, 1924 lived Coburg Apts, 227 Robie, of Halifax Seed Co. in 1925 nil. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/42 - Release Date: 7/6/05

Be certain to read The Hill Times -- lots of information -- Muriel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leland Harvie" <lharvie@ca.inter.net> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 12:28 PM Subject: [CCC] More media coverage Ottawa to release genealogists' delight Last Updated Mon, 04 Jul 2005 11:11:52 EDT CBC News History buffs across the country are eagerly anticipating the release of personal census records kept secret for close to 100 years. http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/07/04/genealogy-050704.html The Hill Times Census records to be released An all-party agreement saw through the passage of S-18, the Federal Census Bill, bringing to a close a near decade-long battle to release the historical records gathered in censuses taken from 1911 to 2001. The bill, which received Royal Assent last week, brings to an end a long and bitter feud between federal officials at Statistics Canada and genealogical associations and researchers who have vainly tried for years to access the records. [If line splits, just click on middle of it, please] http://www.thehilltimes.ca/html/index.php?display=story&full_path=/2005/july/4/whistle/&c=1

Wow! Sue, thank you so much. This is definitely my family. I can't believe it. I started looking for them in 1982 and finally they are found! Now I can start to flesh out the details. Can you tell me if there is anything online (referring to the 1871 Cumberland Census) that I can get land info, more vital stats or any other leads? Thanks so very much, Mrs. Kelly Venance ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Maxime Ethier and his younger brother (by at least 12 years) Napoleon were of the 7th generation of Ethiers in America. Their ancestor was a Leonard Ethier who originated in Angoumois in the centre-west of France. Leonard was the immigrant and in 1670 he married in Montreal Elisabeth Godillon. Maxime Ethier was the eldest son of Francois Ethier and Angelique Nadon who were married in 1841 at Sainte-Rose, in the NW of Montreal. Maxime married Julie Bigras in 1861 in the neighbouring village of Saint-Martin in Quebec. Julie was a daughter of Joachim Bigras and Julie Martin. Maxime and Julie are in the 1871 census of Cumberland in East Ontario. Apparently their son, Joachim died in 1948 and is buried in Notre Dame in Ottawa. If my translation is correct both Joachim and his uncle Napoleon worked in the quarry in Gloucester, Russell, Ontario, and Joachim was still in Gloucester in the 1901 census.

Hello, Does anyone have any suggestions for me? I am looking for my French Catholic ancestors, Maxime Ethier married to Julie Bigras. In the 1881 Ontario Census records for Gloucester, Russell, Ontario Maxime and Julie Ethier (Etier, Ehier) have listed some of their children as being born in Quebec and after about 1869, the rest of the children as being born in Ontario. Can anyone suggest how I might find out where they came from in Quebec? or how to find more information in the Orleans area after 1869? Mrs. Kelly Venance

----- Original Message ----- From: "Muriel M. Davidson" <muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca> To: "Muriel M. Davidson" <muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 11:33 PM Subject: : Post 1901 Census -- further to WHERE and WHEN Time for a vacation in July -- prior to becoming deeply engrossed in research. At least now we know the approximate WHEN we will see the online census. Muriel M. Davidson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 6:02 PM Subject: Post 1901 Census -- further to WHERE and WHEN Greetings All My thanks to Murray Bryson on the CAN-ONT-SIMCOE mail list for bringing the following to my attention. It would appear this answers the WHEN regarding online access to the 1911 Census records. A little longer to wait, and longer than was anticipated, but at least the question has been answered. Enjoy the Census when it is released. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted =============================== http://www.collectionscanada.ca/whats-new/013-233-e.html Notice to Clients As many of you are aware, Bill S-18 has now received Royal Assent. Under this amended legislation, personal census records for censuses taken between 1911 and 2001 will be made available through Library and Archives Canada 92 years after each census took place. Library and Archives Canada has received the official transfer of the 1911 census records from Statistics Canada. To facilitate access to these records, a number of standard policies and procedures need to be followed before the product is launched. We are working very hard to release this information to researchers and the general public as quickly as possible. We hope to do this by early August.

Forwarded by Muriel M. Davidson - muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 1:25 AM Subject: Post 1901 Census -- Others to thank Greetings All. For the past 36 hours or so, with a few hours out to sleep and eat, I have spent the better part of my time reading messages of 'congratulations' and 'thank you' regarding finally having achieved a law that will ensure all Historic Census records will be turned over to Library and Archives Canada, for subsequent public access, 92 years after collection. Without having made an accurate count of the messages that have come in, I would estimate that there have been some 600 to 700 or more of them so far. I suspect that Muriel has received a similar number. Some of them have only two words. i.e. 'Thank you.' while others have been fairly expansive in their praise. While a handful of us have been the major recipient of those 'thanks' and 'congratulations', there are some others that we should not fail to thank as well. I refer to those who, in the final days and hours, listened to our pleas to finally see Bill S-18 deemed to have passed Third Reading without further debate, and some others who obviously helped 'behind the scenes' to bring our campaign to a successful end. Those that immediately come to mind are the following: Rt. Hon. Paul Martin, Prime Minister pm@pm.gc.ca Hon. Tony Valeri - Government House Leader Valeri.T@parl.gc.ca Hon. Stephen Harper, Leader - Leader of the Opposition OLO@parl.gc.ca Hon. Jay Hill - Opposition House Leader Hill.J@parl.gc.ca Hon. Gilles Duceppe, Leader - Bloc Québécois Duceppe.G@parl.gc.ca Hon. Michel Gauthier - Bloc Québécois House Leader Gauthier.M@parl.gc.ca Hon. Jack Layton, Leader - New Democratic Party Layton.J@parl.gc.ca Hon. Libby Davies - NDP House Leader Davies.L@parl.gc.ca Hon. David Emerson - Minister of Industry Minister.Industry@ic.gc.ca Hon. Don Boudria Boudria.D@parl.gc.ca Hon. Brian Masse Masse.B@parl.gc.ca Hon. Paul Créte Crete.P@parl.gc.ca Hon. Mauril Belanger Belanger.M@parl.gc.ca Hon. James Rajotte Rajotte.J@parl.gc.ca Hon. Brent St. Denis St.Denis.B@parl.gc.ca There are no doubt others who are equally deserving and whom I have missed in this listing. To them I offer my sincere apologies. Do not forget your own Member of Parliament (does he/she have a Gold Tick?). Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted

Oh boy....was I glad to check email this am!!! I'm crying I'm so happy to hear about S-18 passing!!! My daughter is looking at me in an odd way.....LOL Wow!! What a relief! I had begun to steel myself for a long quiet summer of waiting.....! YIPPEE!!!! Jennifer Flegg Almonte, ON

----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 9:14 PM Subject: Post 1901 Census -- New column posted! Greetings All FYI. My latest column on the Post 1901 Census situation has been posted today. It is short and sweet, and contains only one article -- VICTORY!! It can be accessed at http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/gazce/gazce117.htm Happy Hunting Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted

My sincerest congratulations to all of you who worked so tirelessly to encourage and motivate all of us. Without strong, seemingly tireless leadership, best intents don't automatically turn into action. I am so excited at the prospect of learning so much more of my family's past. Thank you! Merci! Carol ------ Original Message ------ Received: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 02:00:07 PM EST From: "Muriel M. Davidson" <muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca> To: CAN-ONT-CARLETON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Can-Ont-Carleton] Post 1901 Census -- S-18 deemed to have passed Third Reading ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 12:01 PM Subject: Post 1901 Census -- S-18 deemed to have passed Third Reading Greetings All. At 8:10 AM PDT this morning I received a telephone call from the Honourable Senator Lorna Milne. She advised me that at 8:00 AM PDT MP Dominic LeBlanc, Deputy Government Whip, rose and stated words to the effect that "If the Speaker would seek it, I believe he would have the unanimous consent of the House to deem Bill S-18 -- An Act to amend the Statistics Act, to have passed Third Reading" (not necessarily an exact quote). That consent was given. Bill S-18 has now passed all necessary stages in both the Senate and the House of Commons and all that remains to be done to make it law is for it to receive Royal Assent. It is expected that assent will be received shortly. There will be, I am sure, a great deal of cheering and celebrating when that happens. It is believed that the Library and Archives of Canada has already scanned images of the 1911 National Census of Canada and they should be available on line almost immediately. We should now be able to spend our Summer researching the 1911 records instead of continuing the fight to see them released. Genealogists and historian owe a GREAT debt of thanks to the perserverance and dedication of the Hon. Senator Lorna Milne, without whose support over the past several years, we would not have achieved this victory. Those wishing to express their thanks to Senator Milne can do so through her Policy Advisor, Jeff Paul at PAULJ@SEN.PARL.GC.CA On behalf of Muriel and myself, and all members of the Canada Census Committee, I wish to express our thanks to all who have written letters and email, signed petitions, called their Parliamentary representatives, and generally supported our efforts to regain the public access to Historic Census records we beleived we were always entitled to. I expect that Muriel will likely be forwarding her own message of appreciation as well. We look forward to hearing some of the stories of success in researching the 1911 Census records. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul, Jeff: SEN" <PAULJ@SEN.PARL.GC.CA> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 7:51 AM Subject: [CCC] S-18 is now law S-18 has been deemed passed 3rd reading!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BREAK OUT THE CHAMPAGNE!!!!!!! Jeff Paul Policy Advisor Office of the Hon. Lorna Milne Ph: 613-947-9744 Cel: 613-715-2965 ==== CAN-ONT-CARLETON Mailing List ==== Check out other genealogy resources on the net at John Fuller's most helpful site http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail.html ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 12:01 PM Subject: Post 1901 Census -- S-18 deemed to have passed Third Reading Greetings All. At 8:10 AM PDT this morning I received a telephone call from the Honourable Senator Lorna Milne. She advised me that at 8:00 AM PDT MP Dominic LeBlanc, Deputy Government Whip, rose and stated words to the effect that "If the Speaker would seek it, I believe he would have the unanimous consent of the House to deem Bill S-18 -- An Act to amend the Statistics Act, to have passed Third Reading" (not necessarily an exact quote). That consent was given. Bill S-18 has now passed all necessary stages in both the Senate and the House of Commons and all that remains to be done to make it law is for it to receive Royal Assent. It is expected that assent will be received shortly. There will be, I am sure, a great deal of cheering and celebrating when that happens. It is believed that the Library and Archives of Canada has already scanned images of the 1911 National Census of Canada and they should be available on line almost immediately. We should now be able to spend our Summer researching the 1911 records instead of continuing the fight to see them released. Genealogists and historian owe a GREAT debt of thanks to the perserverance and dedication of the Hon. Senator Lorna Milne, without whose support over the past several years, we would not have achieved this victory. Those wishing to express their thanks to Senator Milne can do so through her Policy Advisor, Jeff Paul at PAULJ@SEN.PARL.GC.CA On behalf of Muriel and myself, and all members of the Canada Census Committee, I wish to express our thanks to all who have written letters and email, signed petitions, called their Parliamentary representatives, and generally supported our efforts to regain the public access to Historic Census records we beleived we were always entitled to. I expect that Muriel will likely be forwarding her own message of appreciation as well. We look forward to hearing some of the stories of success in researching the 1911 Census records. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul, Jeff: SEN" <PAULJ@SEN.PARL.GC.CA> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 7:51 AM Subject: [CCC] S-18 is now law S-18 has been deemed passed 3rd reading!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BREAK OUT THE CHAMPAGNE!!!!!!! Jeff Paul Policy Advisor Office of the Hon. Lorna Milne Ph: 613-947-9744 Cel: 613-715-2965

To keep everyone in suspense, watch for the next posting!!! Muriel M. Davidson, Co-chair, Canada Census Committee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 2:21 AM Subject: Post 1901 Census - Your cooperation is requested. Greetings All. FYI. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: Gordon A. Watts To: MP Gauthier, Michel ; MP Duceppe, Gilles ; Layton.J@parl.gc.ca ; MP Davies, Libby ; MP Hill, Jay ; OLO@parl.gc.ca ; Prime Minister Paul Martin Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 11:14 PM Subject: Your cooperation is requested. 1455 Delia Drive Port Coquitlam, BC V3C 2V9 27 June 2005 Rt. Hon. Paul Martin, Prime Minister Hon. Tony Valeri - Government House Leader Hon. Stephen Harper, Leader - Leader of the Opposition Hon. Jay Hill - Opposition House Leader Hon. Gilles Duceppe, Leader - Bloc Québécois Hon. Michel Gauthier - Bloc Québécois House Leader Hon. Jack Layton, Leader - New Democratic Party Hon. Libby Davies - NDP House Leader Gentlemen, and Ms. Davies Most Canadians have the utmost respect for our Parliamentary system and believe, for the most part, that it works well, and in the interest of the people who it represents. In the past several weeks however, regular watchers of the proceedings of Parliament may have cause to wonder. The political game playing and manoeuvrings of recent weeks are not what Canadians wish to see. For seven long years, a great many Canadians, and others, have campaigned to regain the public access to Historic Census records, 92 years after collection, that existing legislation states we are already entitled to, but for which we have been denied. That access has been denied us, not because of restrictive legislation or government directive, but simply because of a policy initiated by, and under the control of, Statistics Canada. Over this period a number of Motions and Bills, both Private Member and Government Bills, have been proposed to resolve the impasse we find ourselves in. These Motions and Bills have received varying degrees of support from the genealogical and historical communities. Each time we have been close to seeing a resolution, a Session of Parliament was prorogued, or an election was called, causing the proposed solutions to die on the Order Paper. Should that happen again, it will mean that we restart our campaign for a fifth time. Bill S-18 - An Act to amend the Statistics Act is a Bill that all leaders of the Census campaign have committed to support without seeking amendment. This includes leaders of the Canada Census Committee, the Canadian Historical Association, and the Association of Canadian Archivists. It is a Bill that has the stated support of the Chief Statistician, the Librarian and Archivist, and the Privacy Commissioner. It is a Bill that will finally put to rest a controversy that has lasted for more than twenty-five years. Bill S-18 has been passed in the Senate and at this time has only to pass Report and Third Reading stages in the House of Commons before it can be presented for Royal Assent and become Law. It is a non-partisan Bill, having widespread support from all Parties in the House. Currently, 216 Members of Parliament have expressed support for the access we seek. We were pleased that for several days Bill S-18 appeared to have a degree of priority in that it was shown in third place on the Projected Order of Business for the House of Commons. Unfortunately, because of the lengthy debates on Bill C-48, Bill S-18 did not reach the floor of the House for Third Reading before the normal date of adjournment for the Summer recess. Bill S-18 no longer appears on the Projected Order of Business. Sitting days of the House of Commons have been extended to allow further debate and voting on Bills C-48 and C-38. Bill C-48 was passed on Thursday 23 June 2005, leaving only C-38 to be debated in the coming days. We expect it likely the extended sitting days will be adjourned immediately Bill C-38 has been voted on. We ask you, gentlemen, and Ms. Davies, to show that the Parliamentary process can, and does, work. We ask that you cooperate to include Bill S-18 in the business of the House needing to be completed before Parliament is recessed for the Summer. The issues involved in public access to Historic Census records have been debated endlessly over the past several years. It is unlikely that anything new can be added to the debate. As such it is expected that the Report and Third Reading stages of Bill S-18 could be completed at the same time, with minimal debate. With unanimous consent of the House it could be deemed to have passed Third Reading without further debate. We ask that you allow genealogists and historians to spend their Summer researching the long overdue records of the 1911 Census of Canada, instead of having to continue the battle to see them released. With respect, I remain Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee

To all:- The debate in the House of Commons is very definitely not on Bill S-18, our Canadian census release bill. Also, Bill S-18 is not on the projected list for the next three days. Debate (or arguments) are going on until midnight re Bill C-38, Same-Sex Marriage -- with all brought to us by CPAC. A time allocation was approved 163 to 106 -- so it could be rushed through, it seems. My personal feelings are that the title of the bill could be improved by changing the name of the bill to Civil Union - not Marriage. The United Church of Canada has requested the bill be passed. Sincerely hope they find time for S-18 -- if not, we will wait until fall. Should this happen, and as we have census notes going out periodically, but not via regular mail lists, an invitation is extended to be added to the Canada Census Committee. All one has to do is simply send a note to me, expressing this and one will be added -- please give address as well. CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L-request@rootsweb.com is the mail list -- one word subscribe If Digest mode is desired, change L to D. When do the Members of Parliament sleep? A vote call at 11:30 PM! Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Brampton, ON

To former Down Homers:- This is a three-way message with apologies, but the boat launching in Lunenburg has had a change of schedule - these things happen. This schedule sounds better than the previous one - more time for visiting among friends in attendance. Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Brampton, ON -- formerly Liverpool, NS -------------- Had a frantic phone call yesterday from Ralph Getson at the Museum. The Board met on Wednesday evening and changed the entire schedule of events for the 23rd of July. (For the better I think) Ralph assures me that this is pretty much 'it' 9:00 Boat haul from Boat Shop to Slipway with oxen. 11:00 Ceremonies to begin for Boat Launch 12:00 noon Amos H. Stevens to hit the water The Tancook Room open throughout the afternoon ( I think between 2:00 and 4:00 but that is still unclear) Entertainment on wharf . Ralph also mentioned that there will be an area set up where AMS descendants can identify themselves and they will be given a badge or something for free admission to the museum. I think the earlier launch is a good idea since the other schedule seemed like a very long day.

Many thanks Geraldine:- For many Down Homers who live in other provinces as I do, Amos H. Stevens was the name of a well-known member of the Stevens family. The Launching of the Amos H. Stevens in picturesque Lunenburg will be a memorable event -- if all goes well, I hope to be there. There will be more information from Ralph Getson, head of the Fisheries Museum and if not received -- ask!!! [My reason for being there is family research -- an excellent place!] Apologies -- Museum phone number not given Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Brampton, ON -- formerly Liverpool, NS ------------- June 16,2005 Hi Geraldine: Ralph Getson from the Fisheries Museum has been in touch asking that I help to contact people to let them know about the Launching of the Amos H. Stevens. Would you please pass on the following information to all the family and their families as well. Ralph is hoping that there will be a good family turnout! He has given the following Tentative Schedule for Saturday July 23rd. 10:00 a.m. The Amos H. Stevens will be hauled from the Boat Shop to the Slipway using 2 teams of oxen. She will be on display throughout the day. 1:00 to 4:00 The Boat Shop will be turned into a Tancook Room . Martha Farrar will be bringing many photos etc about Tancook and they are encouraging people to get together, visit and reminisce There will be entertainment around the Museum area throughout the afternoon. The actual splash time for the boat is 8:30 p.m. but festivities will begin before that with speeches, christening and so on. As of yet there is no set time for the commencement but I imagine sometime around 7:00 . More details will be available in the paper or by calling the Museum.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 1:02 PM Subject: Post 1901 Census -- Sitting of House extended Greetings All. Even though through passage of the Motion copied below, the sitting days of the House of Commons have been extended, I think that for all intents and purposes, there is little hope that Bill S-18 will pass Third Reading before Parliament recesses for the summer. While not reflected in the wording of the Motion, the purpose of the extension of sitting days was to allow the government to see the passage of two specific Bills, i.e. C-48 -- the 'NDP Budget' Bill, and C-38 -- the 'same-sex marriage' Bill. Bill C-48 was passed before the daily adjournment Thursday, so that leaves only Bill C-38 left on the government agenda. Bill S-18 no longer appears on the Projected Order of Business. I suspect that immediately debate on Bill C-38 concludes, and a vote on it has been taken, in accordance with the Motion copied below a 'Minister of the Crown' will move adjournment of the House until the Fall sitting. According to the Parliamentary Calendar, the startup date of the Fall sitting is 19 September 2005. While we had hoped to be able to spend our Summer researching newly released records of the 1911 Census of Canada, it seems we will instead have to keep reminding our MPs of our desire for release of these records. The Motion passed to extend the sitting days reads as follows: "That, notwithstanding any Standing Order or usual practice, when the House adjourns on June 23, 2005, it shall stand adjourned until June 27, 2005; at any time on or after June 27, 2005, a Minister of the Crown may propose, without notice, a motion that, upon adjournment on the day on which the said motion is proposed, the House shall stand adjourned to a specified date not more than 95 days later; the said motion immediately shall be deemed to have been adopted, provided that, during the adjournment, for the purposes of any Standing Order, the House shall be deemed to stand adjourned pursuant to Standing Order 28; commencing June 27, 2005 and concluding on the day on which a motion that the House stand adjourned pursuant to this Order is adopted, the ordinary hour of daily adjournment on Mondays, Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays shall be 12:00 midnight; (Government Business No. 17)" Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted

Please read the following -- then, if any letters have been written, ask yourself if YOU would like to receive the same. Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:01 PM Subject: Post 1901 Census -- A gentle reminder. Greetings All. Every once in awhile during our campaign to regain the public access to Historic Census records that existing legislation states we are entitled to, but has been denied, I have found it necessary to comment regarding the tone of the messages we send to our Parliamentary represenatives. It would appear that I must do it once again. This morning I received a message from the office of one of our MPs that included a copy of a message received by them that was somewhat less than complimentary. Further than that, it was combative and made accusations that I personally know to be incorrect. I will not identify the individual who wrote the offensive message, nor the party or MP to whom it was written (it was copied to many MPs). I will say however, that the MP from whose office I received this mornings email has long been a supporter of our efforts. It does our cause no good to send accusatory, abusive or insulting messages to any of our Parliamentary representatives -- let alone to those who have been supporting us. When we are now so close to achieving our goal it is easy to let our emotions take control of what we write to those who we may feel, correctly or otherwise, are responsible for what we view as unnecessary delays in passing Bill S-18. Particularly when we are so close to achieving our goal, we must take care in what we write so that we do not cause MPs who have earlier expressed support for our cause to reverse their position. There are ways of expressing disappointment without being abusive or insulting. Should anyone feel the need to express disappointment with any particular MP or Party I suggest they find some of those ways. Avoid 'tarring everyone with the same brush'. To send an accusatory message to all members of any specific Party will undoubtedly include many who do not deserve to be accused. To sum up, we are trying to *encourage* our Parliamentary representatives to support our point of view. Specifically, we are seeking *unrestricted* public access to all Historic Census records after a reasonable period of closure. As I have done throughout the seven years of our Census campaign, I encourage all, when writing to our Parliamentary representatives, to be polite and respectful. To do otherwise can only hurt what we are trying to achieve. I will refrain from quoting the old saying about 'bees' and 'honey'. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted

Listers am looking for Elmer Wallace who may have died in Perth Ontario he is listed there in 1916 at time of his sisters obit he would be 55 in 1916 looking to find out when he passed on thanks . Steve.