In January there was an e-mail to the Queens Co. list asking for information on these families. I sent it on to Elsie Thoresen and the following is her reply. I would appreciate anything on (Harold) Maynard Hartlen's ancestry to connect him to the Hirtle's. I do have the obit for his grandfather Mack - listing 9 children - which is his father? Also would appreciate any data on the families of any of these children and those of his grandfather's brother and sister. ANYTHING would be a great help.