This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/DQC.2ACI/47.61.1.1 Message Board Post: I have photocopies of some of the McLeods listed in the 1871 Liverpool census. John, age 50, ships carpenter, and his wife Elizabeth, age 45, are listed with children William, age 20, seaman; Robie, age 18, ships carpenter; Martha, age 16; Frank, age 12; Annie, age 10; and Minnie, age 8. My husband's great grandfather is Matthias McLeod married to Catherine Harvey. Their son Frank, born 1861, immigrated to Lowell, Massachusetts in about 1884 where he married for the second time (nothing known about first marriage) and had two sons, Guy and Roy. Matthias had children George, age 24; Sarah, Susan, Harvey, Mary A., Francis, age 9; Bertha, Emma and Marina in 1871. Matthias was also a ships carpenter. Do you know if John is related to Matthias? There is also a George McLeod, age 80 in the 1871 census and I am wondering if this could be the father of Matthias and/or John. Any information that might indicate a connection or lack of one would be appreciated.

Hello listers, Just a note to wish you and your families a very Merry Christmas. I hope you all enjoy the holiday season. Sincerely, ~~Susan List Admin http://clix.to/susan

The letter would be great as a Letter to the Editor or forwarded -- hope it is read by and a reply received from Mr. Rock. Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca ================ Greetings All. I copy below, for your information, the text of a letter mailed today to Allan Rock, Minister of Industry regarding Information Commissioner John Reid's response to complaints about Statistics Canada's refusal to transfer 1906 Census Records to the National Archivist. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted. ================================ Dear Sir: On 11 December 2002 Information Commissioner John M. Reid responded to a complaint by Professor Bill Waiser (submitted in November 2000) regarding the refusal of Statistics Canada and Chief Statistician Ivan P. Fellegi to transfer care and control of nominal schedules of the 1906 Special Census of the Western Provinces (Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba) to the National Archivist for subsequent public access in accordance with the statutes of Canada. On 12 December 2002 Mr. Reid responded to a further thirty individuals who had submitted similar complaints. I am aware of complaints by others, including my own, that have not yet been responded to. In each response to complainants Mr. Reid stated: "As a result of this investigation, I found that access to the withheld records is authorized pursuant to paragraph 19(2)(d) of the Access to Information Act by reference to subsection 8(3) of the Privacy Act and s.6 of the Privacy Regulations. On October 18, 2002, I recommended that SC release the requested schedules. However, on November 1, 2002, Dr. Ivan P. Fellegi, Chief Statistician, informed me that he does not intend to follow my recommendation." This finding supports the position of the National Archivist, Ian E. Wilson, who has requested transfer of the records in question to his care and control. It supports also the findings of the Expert Panel on Access to Historical Census Records that, in June 2000, recommended the immediate release of the 1906 Schedules of Census with the orderly release of subsequent Censuses, 92 years after collection, in accordance with the Access to Information and Privacy Acts. Makeup of the Expert Panel included, among others, the Honourable Gérard La Forest, retired Supreme Court Judge, and John McCamus, Professor of Law at York University. Mr. Reid's findings are supported by the legal opinion of Ann Chaplin, Senior Counsel, Constitutional and Administrative Law, Justice Canada (1 August 2000). Ms. Chaplin, unlike those giving opinions before her, considered all aspects of the situation, including the four Statutes of Canada that have a bearing on this issue (National Archives of Canada Act, Statistics Act, Access to Information Act, and Privacy Act). Ms. Chaplin came to different conclusions than those before her that considered only the narrow aspect of a 'Secrecy' clause in Instructions to Officers and Enumerators of Census. During the entire tenure of Dr. Fellegi as Chief Statistician of Canada, he has opposed public access to Historic Census Records, and has refused to transfer care and control of those records to the National Archivist in accordance with the applicable legislation. In so doing he has contravened legal provisions of the National Archives of Canada Act, the Access to Information Act, and the Privacy Act. By extension, it might be considered that the Minister of Industry, being the Minister Responsible for Statistics Canada, has also been in contravention of these Statutes. With the possible exception of the Privacy Commissioner, Chief Statistician Ivan Fellegi stands alone in his opposition to public access of 92-year old Census records. All studies and surveys to date have supported such access. Mr. Minister, I mean no disrespect to either yourself or Dr. Fellegi. It is time, however, that the Chief Statistician was directed to obey the laws of Canada. No civil servant, no matter how high ranking, is above the Laws of Canada. We call on you to direct the Chief Statistician of Canada to obey the law and immediately transfer care and control of Nominal Schedules of the 1906 Special Census of Western Canada to the National Archivist. If, after being directed to do so, Dr. Fellegi refuses still to turn care and control of these records over to the National Archivist, he should be replaced with someone who is prepared to obey the Laws of Canada. He should be encouraged to take his well-deserved, and overdue, retirement. Thank you. Sincerely, Gordon A. Watts Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/17/02

Are you familiar with the FREEMAN FAMILIES OF NOVA SCOTIA? If near Liverpool or Caledonia, check Volume II, Page 790. Also among those buried in the Congregational Cemetery, we learn that Sarah, the beloved wife of John Cole, "who departed this life Aug. 16, 1861, Aged 23 yrs. Her end was peace". Another notation note the Coles were descendants of Benjamin Cole, original grantee of Liverpool, and of a well-known Massachusetts family -- see Diary of Simeon Perkins, last page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/ If you are not able to locate a copy of FFNS, let me know. Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Brampton, ON [formerly a Down Homer! Also with many FORD & COLE ancestors] ----- Original Message ----- > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.> > Surnames: Cole > Classification: Query> > Message Board URL:> > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DQC.2ACI/238> > Message Board Post:> > Hi, > > Looking for information on the parents of John M. Cole who was born about 1837 in Liverpool, NS. He married Sarah Ford, who died in August 1861 and is buried in the Congregational Cemetery in Liverpool. Any help would be appreciated. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/17/02

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cole Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DQC.2ACI/238 Message Board Post: Hi, Looking for information on the parents of John M. Cole who was born about 1837 in Liverpool, NS. He married Sarah Ford, who died in August 1861 and is buried in the Congregational Cemetery in Liverpool. Any help would be appreciated.

To all --- and the following may be forwarded:- On behalf of the Canada Census Committee, I extend sincere wishes to all for a Merry Christmas. We hope one of the gifts for 2003 will be release of the 1906 census IN FULL. The Hon. Allan Rock, along with Senator Lorna Milne, have been working very hard on legislation, scheduled to be presented very soon. I know Senator Milne's desire is the complete census with NO restrictions. As we gather around the table for Christmas family parties, {and I discussed this with Senator Milne}, WE could all assist with SUPPORT. Ask everyone at the Christmas dinner table to sign PETITIONS! If a child knows how to read and write, let them sign. The Census Petition is the only PROOF we can provide that WE desire the census records released. I have suggested to a leading member of Quebec Genealogical Society that each member gather at least EIGHT signatures as shown on Page 2 of the census petition -- each group gather these, and believe me, we would need a truck to take all the paper to Parliament Hill!! I would have to have tabulation, but these details may be worked out later after signing. We also wish every member of Ontario Genealogical Society would collect at least eight signatures, and again, we would have a great show of support for Allan Rock and Senator Milne. Individuals are invited to sign petitions instead of guest books -- we do not care if French or English -- we just need these, and when family members are gathered, a great opportunity to sign both Senate and House of Commons (or Non-Resident). http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Petition.htm Please -- timing is crucial -- legislation will be presented shortly and we must provide the support. Personally, I hope the 1911 census is released on time in June 2003. If there are any questions, please contact me personally. Attachments are also available. Merry Christmas -- may all your wishes come true! Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Brampton, ON http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/index.htm --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/17/02

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/DQC.2ACI/213.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Marcia, Glad to get your message. My e-mail address is sfdavies@gci.net. Looking forward to your reply. Season Greetings Steve Davies

Forwarding for Gordon -- I have checked the URL -- All is A-OK. Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee http://www.globalgenealogy.com/CEnsus/Petition.htm http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/committee.html http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/1906census.html ========================= Greetings All. As promised in my message on Wednesday, I have placed online the full text of Professor Bill Waiser's press release held 18 December 2002 at the University of Saskatchewan. The press release was in response to the long awaited response by Information Commissioner John M. Reid to Professor Waiser's complaint about Statistics Canada's refusal to allow public access to records of the 1906 Special Census of the Western Provinces. The Information Commisioner found that access to the withheld records is authorized pursuant to paragraph 19(2)(c) of the Access to Information Act by reference to subsection 8(3) of the Privacy Act and s.6(d) of the Privacy Regulations. On 18 October 2002 he recommended that Statistics Canada release the requested schedules. Chief Statistician Ivan P. Fellegi advised the Information Commissioner he does not intend to follow that recommendation. In so doing we believe that he is breaking the laws of Canada. No public servant, no matter how highly placed, is above the law. We call upon Industry Minister Allan Rock to immediately direct the Chief Statistician to transfer care and control of these records to the National Archivist for subsequent public access. Professor Waiser's press release is accessible through a link on the Post 1901 Census Project website, at the URL following my signature. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/17/02

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DQC.2ACI/213.1 Message Board Post: Hi Steve, came across a 1915 Portland, Maine City Directory. It does list Newton F., Newton H., and Mary. Where they worked and lived at that time. Contact me at my email address and I will send you the info.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/DQC.2ACI/237 Message Board Post: Searching for Cyrus Sprague and Maria Southwood (Southard?) Born in Nova Scotia 1881 Canadian Census, Farnham East, Brome, Quebec SPRAGUE Cyrus, lawyier 36, Scottish Origins, born Nova Scotia Wife: Maria Southwood or Southard, 24, Scottish, NS Children: George 6 born NS ; William 4 b Quebec; Lillie 2 born Quebec; Laura 1 born Quebec (born Nov; 5/12)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Steele Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DQC.2ACI/236 Message Board Post: James H. Steele was born 9/27/1860 in Nova Scotia, his parents were Alexander Steele (also born in Nova Scotia) and Caroline Calhoun (born in Edinburgh, Scotland) James married Hattie O. Clark of St. George Maine. Any information on any of these people would be greatly appreciated ~ thanks

Forwarded on behalf of Gordon A. Watts, Co-Chair Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee =============== Greetings All. My thanks to all who have forwarded to me the message relating to Professor Bill Waiser's response from the Information Commissioner to his complaint regarding Statistics Canada's refusal to grant access to the 1906 Special Western Census. I have been in contact with Professor Waiser who will be providing me with a copy of his press release. I will be able to post this after his press conference Wednesday morning. I am advised that others who complained to the Information Commissioner regarding this matter are now receiving their responses as well. I expect that mine will be waiting for me on my return home at the end of the week. I would request that all those who receive a response from the Information Commissioner regarding their complaint on this matter to please send copies of those responses to me. I will be putting them all together and submitting copies of them to our lawyer, Lois Sparling. They may well play a part in our current legal action. Copies of these responses may be sent to me at 1455 Delia Drive Port Coquitlam, BC V3C 2V9 Alternately, they may be faxed to me at 604-942-6843. In this instance, however, I would prefer to receive photocopies in the mail. I would request also that those receiving responses from the Information Commissioner complete and return the forms that accompany the response, giving the Information Commissioner authourity to proceed to the Federal Court on their behalf. At this time I would not recommend proceeding individually because of the cost involved. If the Information Commissioner proceeds on our behalf, the cost is to the government, not ourselves. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/ en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beverley Gutenberg" <beverleygutenberg@sasktel.net> To: <ALBERTA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 2:24 PM Subject: [ALBERTA] Fw: 1906 Census announcement On Wednesday, Dec. 18 there will an annoucement that Dr. Bill Waiser won his complaint that he took to Information Services against Stats Canada for the release of the 1906 Census. Information Services found his complaint to be valid and ordered Stats Canada to release these documents immediately. You are invited to be in attendance for the press conference at 10:00 Am in the Agricultural Building, 51 Campus Dr, University of Saskatchewan. The conference will be in the Atrium, coffee and refreshment will be served. Densyse Smith (via Dr Bill Waiser) asked me to get this information out to you - so - please try and attend - the more bodies at this conference the better, this will show the government that we are supporters to have the censuses released. Looking forward to seeing many supporters there - Lynda. Please feel free to forward this announcement to other lists. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 12/6/02

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Brown (probably family of Thomas Brown grantor at Liverpool NS) Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/DQC.2ACI/235 Message Board Post: Looking to identify husband of Mrs. Mary Brown of Liverpool, NS. She is mentioned and alive in deeds in 1816. Mary was born in 1749 in MASS and married Archelaus Crowell at Barrington, NS. Archelaus Crowell died about 1800 and the widow Mary Crowell then married a "Mr. Brown" of Liverpool NS after 1805. Would anyone have any idea who he was, when he died, and when Mrs. Mary Brown died?

There could be further information re the original settlers of COFFIN'S ISLAND at the mouth of the harbour at Liverpool, Nova Scotia. When one is at Fort Point in Liverpool, looking out to the sea, the small island on the left at the mouth of the harbour is Coffin's Island. I believe there was a former name for the island, but information would be available at Thomas H. Raddall Research Centre. Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca [formerly from Down Home] ----- Original Message ----- From: "BBFFRRPP" <bbffrrpp@attbi.com> To: <NOVA-SCOTIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 7:40 AM Subject: [NS-L] George E. COFFIN, b~1842 MA, in Nova Scotia 1860's? (CORKILL) > Good morning, > > I'm looking for any information at all about a George E. COFFIN who was born > in Nantucket, MA, around 1842. I believe his parents were Edward C. > COFFIN and Olive G. ELDREDGE who married in Nantucket, MA, in 1839. I > don't have any information on George COFFIN from 1842 to 1881, and I was > wondering if there was a possibility he moved to Nova Scotia during the > 1860's. (Civil War times??) > > In the 1881 Census he was living in Truro, NS, in the household of John S. > LEWIS. In the spring of 1882, he married Esther CORKILL, who was the > younger sister of Mrs. Mary LEWIS. At the time of the marriage, George > was ~40 and Esther was ~20. This makes me wonder whether there was a > first marriage for George COFFIN .. possibly in the 1860's. > > I would enjoy hearing about what happened to George and Esther COFFIN after > 1882. Both of Esther's (CORKILL) sisters had many children, and I am > curious whether she did. On the 1881 Census, George listed his > occupation as a Railway Employee. So, there is a possibility that they > traveled to other locations in Canada. > > Happy Holidays! > > Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) > > > "There are two lasting bequests we can give our children; > one is roots, the other is wings." > > Hodding Carter, Jr. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 12/6/02

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DQC.2ACI/234 Message Board Post: I am looking for information on Warren Gardiner and his wife Mary-Anne Gibbons, died approx 1866-68. Warren died at sea. They had a daughter Susan Amelia Gardner, bor 12 March, 1862, Liverpool, who I believe was brought up by the Crosby family. Can anyone out there help me. Thank you. Valerie

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DQC.2ACI/229.1 Message Board Post: Hi Laurie: I have some info regarding the Wynotts. Don't know if it is the same family, but here goes. Marcella Whynott b. 13 Sept 1928, Liverpool, N.S. Parents are Charles Whitten Whynott b. 13 Aug, 1906, d. 7 Dec,1983. married to Lydia-Mae Hamilton. His fathers name was John Whynott . Married to Hattie Isabelle Westhaver. Marcella's husband is John Medicraft, and they both still live in Liverpool, N.S. Marcella has a sister Alice, b. 26 April, 1935, Yarmouth, N.S. She is married to William Langley. Have a Great day!

These are the names I am working on from Queens Co. I would welcome any additions and will gladly send FGS sheets on any of these people. Priscilla DOLLIVER, Gamiliel, the son of Samuel DOLLIVER and Mary MAYO(MAYHEW) prob. b. in Gloucester, MA md Lucy BRIGGS 23 Jan 1783 in Liverpool, Qu., NS BRIGGS, Lucy the dau of James BRIGGS and Betsy. ATKINS, Joseph, the son of Thomas and Ruth (COVELL) ATKINS b. in Chatham, Barns., MA 26 Oct 1750 md Waitstill COHOON 3 Aug 1775 in Liverpool, Qu., NS COHOON, Waitstill the dau of William and Elizabeth (GALLUP) CAHOON, b. 10 Feb 1755 in Brewster, Barn., MA. KIRK, John b. abt 1744 md COLE, Dorcas. He died 16 Oct 1830, Liverpool, Qu., NS ANNIS, James son of Thomas and Lydia (DEANE) ANNIS B. 1762 in Barnstable, Barn., MA md Lydia HOLMES 25 Dec 1789 in Liverpool, Qu., NS HOLMES, Lydia dau of Benjamin and Rebecca (DREW) HOLMES b. Liverpool, Qu., NS 26 Oct 1772. FRASER, Simon b. Scotland son of Hugh and Mary FRASER, md Mary ROSE.

The main family is MICHAEL HUSKINS, married MARGARET HAGEN, There are many family members. Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Researching: FARQUHAR, CLANCY, INNESS, WOLFE, McINTOSH, HAGEN, FRELLICK, - plus many more lines --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.423 / Virus Database: 238 - Release Date: 11/25/02

Hello Listers, I would like to begin a ROLL CALL starting today, Sunday, December 1 and ending Sunday, December 8. This is a good opportunity for everyone on the list to post and hopefully make a connection. ROLL CALL Guidelines: 1) Post the lines you are looking for. 2) SUBJECT LINE of email should read something like: Last name, first name, dates, place e.g. POWER, Michael (1798-1930 Ireland>Nova Scotia) OR WOLFE, Archibald 1800's - Canada DO NOT add the words "ROLL CALL" to your subject line. 3)Include important info that you know, names, dates and locations. 4)Do not "reply to" this message: the message will still have the same subject line and the message comes only to me. **Subject line is VERY important. Some folks only scan the subject line, so make it a good one, you don't want to miss making the connection you have been waiting for.** Good luck, everyone! Susan http://clix.to/susan

Many thanks, Gordon -- on behalf of the MANY who could not attend this very special first Symposium. Check the URLs below Gordon's name, please. Happy reading -- and printing is allowed!! Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca (The other) Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/committee.html -------------------------------------- Greetings All. For those who are interested, I have placed my report on the first Symposium of the Canadian Genealogy Centre, held November 1, 2 and 3, on the Post 1901 Census Project Website. A link to the report is on the home page of the website, the URL of which follows my signature. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.423 / Virus Database: 238 - Release Date: 11/25/02