Forwarded by list admin. Susan Gowen http://clix.to/susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "livenbgood" <livenBgood@attbi.com> death records-MCDONALD-PITTS-FLYNN-O'BRIEN-MAHAR-MCCARTHY-BABINO-LEE > Hi List, > Here's some more death records from the Town of Weymouth, Massachusetts: > Please feel free to pass the information to other people or lists that might be interested. The original records can be found at the Weymouth Town Hall, the books are numbered by the year of death. The copies I have are the short form copies of the hand typed index cards. > > MCDONALD, John J. Hus. of Agnes G. Flynn > d.12-22-1974 Place of death: Weymouth > Age 77 yrs 6 mo. 24 dys Res. Jamacia Plain > Occupation: Ret. Police Officer US Veteran: WWI > Place of Birth: Cambridge > Condition: married > Father: Donald J. McDonald birthplace: P.E.I. > Mother: Annie O'Brien birthplace: Ireland > Place of Burial: St. Mary's, Randolph, Ma > --------------------------------------------------- > MCDONALD, Agnes G. (Flynn) John J. > d.10-5-1989 Place of death: Weymouth > Age 88 yrs mo. dys Res. Braintree > Occupation: Clerk Place of Birth: Braintree > Condition: widowed > Father: Maurice Flynn birthplace: Ma. > Mother: Josephine Mahar birthplace: Ma. > Place of Burial: St. Mary's, Randolph, Ma > --------------------------------------------------- > MCDONALD, John J. Sr. - Hus. of Sara Pitts > d.4-7-1952 Place of death: Quincy > Age 70 yrs mo. dys Res. Weymouth > Occupation: Retired Place of Birth: Scotland > Condition: married > Father: Thomas McDonald birthplace: Scotland > Mother: Julia McCarthy birthplace: Ireland > Place of Burial: St. Mary's, Randolph, Ma > --------------------------------------------------- > MCDONALD, Sarah J. (Pitts) ,Hus. John J. Sr. > d.10-16-1960 Place of death: Quincy > Age 72 yrs 10 mo. 29 dys Res. Weymouth > Occupation: Domestic Place of Birth: Sidney, N.S. > Condition: widowed > Father: Alexander Pitts birthplace: Sidney, N.S. > Mother: Louise Babino birthplace: Sidney, N.S. > Place of Burial: St. Mary's, Randolph, Ma > --------------------------------------------------- > MCDONALD, John J. (Wid. of Catherine Lee) > d.4-23-1994 Place of death: Weymouth > Age 80 yrs mo. dys Res. Weymouth > Occupation: Self-Employed Place of Birth: Quincy > Condition: widowed > Father: John J. McDonald birthplace: Scotland > Mother: Sarah Pitts birthplace: Canada > Place of Burial: St. Mary's, Randolph, Ma > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hope this helps someone! > > Denise

Forwarded by list admin. Susan Gowen http://clix.to/susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "livenbgood" <livenBgood@attbi.com> Subject: [NS-L] death records-DESLAURIES-LAVALLE-PARROW-PARRAULT-MORAN-COONEY-DELORY > Hi List, > Here's some more death records from the Town of Weymouth, Massachusetts: > > DESLAURIES, Philistine - hus. of Mary Delorey > d.10-12-1926 Place of death: 70-1/2 Lake St.,Weymouth > Age 76 yrs 6 mo. 24 dys Res. Weymouth > Occupation: Retired Mason > Condition: married > Father: William P. Deslauries birthplace: Nova Scotia > Mother: Annie Perrault birthplace: Nova Scotia > Place of Burial: St. Francis, Weymouth > --------------------------------------------------- > DESLAURIES, Maria E. wife of Charles H. > d.5-14-1901 Place of death: Weymouth > Age 45 yrs 3 mo. 20 dys Res. Weymouth > Occupation: At Home > Condition: married > Father: John Moran birthplace: Ireland > Mother: Margaret Cooney birthplace: Ireland > Place of Burial: St. Francis, Weymouth > --------------------------------------------------- > DESLAURIES, Margaret A. > d.7-29-1889 Place of death: Weymouth > Age yrs 8 mo. 19 dys Res. Weymouth > Condition: single > Father: Philistine Deslauries birthplace: N.S. > Mother: Mary E. birthplace: N.S. > Place of Burial: Weymouth > --------------------------------------------------- > DESLAURIES, Margaret > d.2-19-1882 Place of death: Weymouth > Age 4 yrs 4 mo. 6 dys Res. Weymouth > Condition: single > Father: Philistine Deslauries birthplace: N.S. > Mother: Margaret-------- birthplace: N.S. > Place of Burial: Weymouth > --------------------------------------------------- > DESLAURIES, Annie (Parrow) Wid. of William > d.3-11-1890 Place of death: Weymouth > Age 75 yrs 4 mo. 12 dys Res. Weymouth > Condition: widow Occ: At Home > Father: Louis Parrow birthplace: N.S. > Mother: Sophia --- birthplace: N.S. > Place of Burial: Weymouth > --------------------------------------------------- > DESLAURIER, Cora (Lavalle) wife of Arthur > d.3-29-1966 Place of death: Weymouth > Age 79 yrs 7 mo. 18 dys Res. Spencer, Ma. > Condition: widowed occ: At Home > Father: Pierre Lavalle birthplace: Canada > Mother: Ida o'Coin birthplace: Spencer, Ma. > Place of Burial: Holy Rosary,St. Mary, Spencer, Mass. > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hope this helps someone! > Denise

Forwarded by list admin. Susan Gowen http://clix.to/susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "livenbgood" <livenBgood@attbi.com> Subject: [NS-L] death records- PERRO-PEROW-BOUDREAU-LANDREY-AVERY > Hi List, > Here's some more death records from the Town of Weymouth, Massachusetts: > > PEROW, Sophia Alice > d.2-25-1916 Place of death: Weymouth > Age yrs mo. 14 dys Res. Weymouth > Condition: single > Father: Alexander Perow birthplace: Nova Scotia > Mother: Elizabeth Avery birthplace: Nova Scotia > Place of Burial: St. Francis Xavier > --------------------------------------------------- > PERRO, Annastatia (Boudreau) wife of Cyril > d.8-24-1929 Place of death: 25 filomena Way,Wey. > Age 61 yrs 5 mo. -- dys Res. Weymouth > Condition: Married Occ: Housewife > Father: Gilbert Boudreau birthplace: Nova Scotia > Mother: Mary Landrey birthplace: Nova Scotia > Place of Burial: St. Francis Xavier, Weymouth > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hope this helps someone! > Denise > >

Forwarded by list admin. Susan Gowen http://clix.to/susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "livenbgood" <livenBgood@attbi.com> Subject: [NS-L] death records-MCDONALD-MARSH-SCOTT-COHAN-HORIHAN-CODY-WALSH-SCANLON > Hi List, > Here's some more death records from the Town of Weymouth, Massachusetts: > Please feel free to pass the information to other people or lists that might be interested. The original records can be found at the Weymouth Town Hall, the books are numbered by the year of death. The copies I have are the short form copies of the hand typed index cards. > > MCDONALD, Alberta > d.11-27-1897 Place of death: Weymouth > Age yrs 11 mo. 3 dys Res. Weymouth > Condition: married > Father:James McDonald birthplace: Nova Scotia > Mother: Cathrine birthplace: Nova Scotia > Place of Burial: St. Francis > --------------------------------------------------- > MCDONALD, Anna > d.3-6-1978 Place of death: Weymouth > Age 85 yrs 6 mo. 19 dys Res. Weymouth > Condition: single > Father: David McDonald birthplace: C.B.L. > Mother: Margaret Scanlon birthplace: C.B.L. > Place of Burial: Old Calvery Cem., Boston > --------------------------------------------------- > MCDONALD, Catherine (Walsh)- wife of Williams > d.8-19-1927 Place of death: Mass. Homeopathic Hospital > Age 44 yrs Res. Weymouth > Condition: married > Father: Martin Walsh birthplace: Newfoundland > Mother: Cathrine Cody birthplace: Newfoundland > Place of Burial: New Calvery, Boston > --------------------------------------------------- > MCDONALD, Bridget - wife of John > d.4-12-1896 Place of death: Weymouth > Age 63 yrs mo. dys Res. Weymouth > Condition: married > Father: Cornelius Cohan birthplace: Ireland > Mother: Julia Horihan birthplace: Ireland > Place of Burial: Weymouth > --------------------------------------------------- > MCDONALD, Fred J. - hus. of Jennie Scott > d.1-24-1924 Place of death: City Hospital Boston > Age 35 yrs -- mo. -- dys Res. Weymouth > Occupation: Engineer > Condition: married Cause: Multiple burns > Father: James F. McDonald birthplace: St. John N.B. > Mother: Mary Marsh birthplace: ---Canada > Place of Burial: St. Francis, Weymouth > --------------------------------------------------- LEBLANC, Euphrosine wife of Joseph d.6-1-1944 Place of death: Weymouth Age 78 yrs Res. Weymouth Condition: widowed Occ: At Home Place of Birth: Canada Father: John Arsenault birthplace: Canada Mother: Phylis AuCoin birthplace: Canada Place of Burial: Margaree Cem., Nova Scotia --------------------------------------------------- WHITE, Annie L. (Hus. Nathan A.) d.8-31-1955 Place of death: Weymouth Age 81 yrs 0 mo. 22 dys Res. Weymouth Condition: widowed Occ: Housework Place of Birth: St. John, N.B. Father: John MacAfee birthplace: ---Canada Mother: Mary A. Daley birthplace: New Brunswick Place of Burial: Village Cem. , Weymouth, Ma. ------------------------------------------------ > > Hope this helps someone! > Denise > >

Forwarded from another list. -Susan http://clix.to/susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "livenbgood" <livenBgood@attbi.com> > Hi List, > Here's some more death records from the Town of Weymouth, Massachusetts: > Please feel free to pass the information to other people or lists that might be interested. The original records can be found at the Weymouth Town Hall, the books are numbered by the year of death. The copies I have are the short form copies of the hand typed index cards. > > DECOSTE, Albert J. Hus. of Lillian G. Andrews > d.8-12-1945 Place of death: Weymouth > Age 63 yrs 10 mo. 1 dys Res. Weymouth > Occupation: Lineman Place of birth: N.S. > Condition: married > Father: Jeremiah DeCoste birthplace: Nova Scotia > Mother: Mary J. Gerrior birthplace: Nova Scotia > Place of Burial: St. Mary's, Randolph > --------------------------------------------------- > DECOSTE, Isabel H. > d.8-29-1965 Place of death: Weymouth > Age 58 yrs 10 mo. 13 dys Res. Abington > Occupation:Shoe worker Place of birth: N.S. > Condition: single > Father: J. Norman DeCoste birthplace: Nova Scotia > Mother: Mary Jane Pitts birthplace: Nova Scotia > Place of Burial: St. Francis, Weymouth > --------------------------------------------------- > DECOSTE, James Francis wf. Leona Paquette > d.4-3-1962 Place of death: Weymouth > Age 60 yrs 2 mo. 10 dys Res. Witman > Occupation: Meat Cutter Place of birth: Braintree, Ma. > Condition: married > Father: Norman J. DeCoste birthplace: Nova Scotia > Mother: Mary J. Pitts birthplace: Nova Scotia > Place of Burial: St. James, Witman Ma. > --------------------------------------------------- > DECOSTE, Ruth Elizabeth > d.5-9-1933 Place of death: Weymouth hospital > Age 21 yrs 2 mo. 3 dys Res. Braintree > Occupation: Sales girl Condition: single > Father: Norman J. DeCoste birthplace: Nova Scotia > Mother: Mary J. Pitts birthplace: Nova Scotia > Place of Burial: St. Francis, Weymouth > --------------------------------------------------- > DECOSTE, Mary J. (Pitts) Hus. Norman J. > d.6-29-1957 Place of death: Weymouth > Age 77 yrs 6 mo. 21 dys Res. Braintree > Occupation: Housewife Place of birth: N.S. > Condition: widowed > Father: Jeremiah Pitts birthplace: Nova Scotia > Mother: C.B.L. birthplace: Nova Scotia > Place of Burial: St. Francis, Weymouth > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hope this helps someone! > Denise

To all Down Home Family Researchers:- The reason for the subject line is that all ELEVEN (11) Members of Parliament are 100% supportive of Post-1901 Census Release http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Score5.htm#NS I admit it took a few LETTERS and I have already sent notes of thanks -- but all will appreciate many more. Go to the above URL, the personal scoreboard is at the left, YOU may send messages on the memo site at the right. However, although the first vote on Senator Lorna Milne's Bill S-12 will be in the Senate, her Senatorial co-appointees from Nova Scotia are letting both Senator Milne and YOU down. http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Senscore3.htm#NS There is one vacancy, but here are the ones who need letters John M. Buchanan (Halifax) -- has never replied Gerald J. Comeau (Nova Scotia) -- seems to be AGAINST J. Michael Forrestall (Dartmouth-Eastern Shore) -- NO reply B. Alasdair Graham (The Highlands) -- again, NO reply Donald H. Oliver (Nova Scotia) -- YES/NO - lives Queens County Gerard A. Phalen (Nova Scotia) -- another YES/NO Do NOT try e-mails -- grab an envelope and mail your letter, NO stamp -- if in Word, please send an attachment for posting. SUPPORTIVE:- Jane Cordy, Michael Kirby, Wilfred P. Moore Believe it or not, I have never received a PETITION from Queens, Shelburne, Guysborough Counties -- the curator of the Queens County Museum promised -- possibly not mailed yet. Signatures are the only PROOF Ottawa will accept that we want the records! http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Petition.htm Pick your petition, go to File, then Print -- or Download To understand the census situation the following is a great article http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/1906census.html [Many on the lists might recognize one in the photo] Let's give this our well-known Nova Scotian try -- go for 100%! Above all, thank the ones who are supportive! Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee 25 Crestview Avenue, Brampton, ON L6W 2R8 http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/ [Click on the maple leaf -- another Down Home site] --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.384 / Virus Database: 216 - Release Date: 8/21/02

Greetings All. Files have just been sent to update the Scoreboards for Members of Parliament and Senators. I believe that I am now up to date with the responses sent to me. MPs Derek Lee (Lib. - Ont), Brian Masse (NDP - Ont), Rex Barnes (PC - NF & Lab), and Stephen Harper (CA - AB) have been awarded gold ticks of support. Totals as of this time are as follows: House of Commons http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index6.htm For 160 Against 6 Non-committal 59 No response 74 ---------- Senate http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Senscore1.htm For 35 Against 3 Non-committal 17 No response 42 If you have had a response that differs than that shown for your MP or Senator please send it to me so that the Scoreboards might be updated. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.384 / Virus Database: 216 - Release Date: 8/21/02

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/DQC.2ACI/225 Message Board Post: trying to trace hartlen family my father was victor alexander hartlen i am steve hartlen born halifax ns 1960 believe relatives in jedore ns? any help appreciated delier holland,

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Freeman Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/DQC.2ACI/43.117.1 Message Board Post: Your reply regarding your Grandfather Wilbert Freeman may be coincidental but my grandfather David Osborn was also born in Greenfield and had several sibling there was Abraham(Abe) and Abagail (Abby) which my mother spoke of I am trying to communicate with any living members of Freeman family any help is appreciated, Blaine

Greetings All. I have just got off the telephone from speaking to Canadian Alliance leader Stephen Harper on the Peter Warren talk show (broadcast nationally across Canada). I asked him for his position on access to Post 1901 Census records. While he stated that he would want to see specifics of what we are seeking, he was generally supportive and felt that the current situation regarding non-disclosure was too restrictive. Based on his response I will be awarding him a gold tick of support on the MPs Scoreboard. Moderator Peter Warren has been supportive of our efforts in the past, and expressed the opinion that we were "going to win this one". Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.384 / Virus Database: 216 - Release Date: 8/21/02

To all listeners of "music of a few years ago":- Sail On Nova Scotia -- SONS - celebrates its first anniversary today, August 24th, with addition of one interesting program. Also, the very special Sunday programs will still be there! We will miss Bryan Keddy's Nova Scotian accent next Friday evening as SONS Classic Rock is aired along with the Anniversary Special. Expect a new voice!! The identity of the DJ will be announced later -- and sincerely hope your guess is correct!!! This program will include many of the various type of rock hits, some never reached the Top 10, but ones we loved back in the 60s and 70s. Who knows, the younger generation might learn to like OUR type of music!! To entertain yourself while you work at the computer, Bryan has given the following instructions:- "Download the Live 365 Player to listen - just go to the following webpage and download the player http://www.live365.com/listen/player365-download.html (Please note: the player doesn't work with Netscape 6) Then simply go to my station website or my broadcasters website and click on the yellow Play button to listen ...... http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/bryanfkeddy/SONS.html http://www.live365.com/stations/284123/ Happy Listening -- and will be listening for the Classic Rock DJ!! Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/ A lover of Down Home music! --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: 8/2/02

To Senator Donald Oliver:- Sincerely hope you are enjoying your retirement home at Pleasantfield, Queens County -- also the county where I was born. Your Senator's Scoreboard shows you as still being Non-Committal -- the Green Fence -- pickets have been made sharper!! http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Senscore3.htm#NS Senator Lorna Milne could use your support with Bill S-12, and all Canadians would be very happy if we ever obtain the release of our heritage -- the census records. Will it be too difficult to say YES to support????? Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee 25 Crestview Avenue, Brampton, ON L6W 2R8 [formerly from near Liverpool, NS] http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/ A truly Nova Scotian site] --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: 8/2/02

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Winot Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DQC.2ACI/224 Message Board Post: Looking for inofrmation of Winot families from Greenfield. Gg grandfather David born there not sure who his parents are. any lead helpful.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/DQC.2ACI/83.90.1.3 Message Board Post: I'am looking for information on a Alexzander McLearn b abt 1890, He married a Amy Laffin, Amy was married twice she also married a McCulloch. Please e-mail me at dreamchild_69@hotmail.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/DQC.2ACI/188.2 Message Board Post: i have two Anthony's in my tree which I'am trying to find information on an ALFRED ANTHONY b abt 1887. Married a Minnie Laffin. & Olivia Anthony b1797, Married a John Laffin Please e-mail me at dreamchild_69@hotmail.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/DQC.2ACI/190.1 Message Board Post: I'am looking for information on a Glyness Smith, Married a James Gerrior, b1945. Please -email me at dreamchild_69@hotmail.com

Forwarded by List Admin for: Nadia Haddad Communication Officer National Archives of Canada (613) 996-0080 http://www.archives.ca/02/020122_e.html **************************************************************************** *************************************************** Since the month of May, the National Archives of Canada has endeavoured to resolve the various issues, technical and otherwise, that researchers have faced using the Census of Canada, 1901 Web site. On August 1, 2002, the National Archives implemented a new version of the MrSID viewer technology. Most problems encountered with the first plug-in (including problems faced by Mac or Netscape users or those who had downloaded another version of the MrSID viewer plug-in) should be resolved by the automatic installation of the new version. The National Archives invites you, over the next few months, to visit the improved Census of Canada, 1901 Web site often and be on the lookout for new features. If problems persist, please do not hesitate to send your inquiries to 1901@archives.ca <mailto:1901@archives.ca> . The National Archives of Canada would like to thank you for your interest in its products and for your support of its digitization program. Depuis le mois de mai, les Archives nationales du Canada ont fait de nombreux efforts pour régler les différents problèmes, techniques ou autres, éprouvés par les chercheurs utilisant le site Web du Recensement du Canada 1901. Le 1er août 2002, les Archives nationales ont installé une nouvelle version de la technologie de visionnement MrSID. La majorité des problèmes rencontrés avec le premier plugiciel (y compris les problèmes auxquels ont fait face les utilisateurs de Mac ou de Netscape ou ceux qui avaient téléchargé une autre version de la technologie de visionnement MrSID) devraient être résolus par l'installation automatique de la nouvelle version. Les Archives nationales vous invitent, au cours des prochains mois, à visiter régulièrement la version améliorée du site Web du Recensement du Canada 1901 et à surveiller les nouveaux ajouts. Si les problèmes persistent, n'hésitez pas à nous envoyer vos questions à 1901@archives.ca <mailto:1901@archives.ca> . Les Archives nationales du Canada vous remercient de l'intérêt que vous témoignez pour ses produits et de votre support dans son programme de numérisation.

Hi folks, Just wanted to pass along information about a couple of new surname boards & mail Lists that may be of interest to some of you. I have had DEBAY & SITEMAN & COOPS & MORINE mail lists created. They have been gatewayed with their Message Boards. For information on any of these or other lists, please visit the Rootsweb Mail List & Message Board links below or for those and others that I admin go to the bottom of the Links page of my Eastern Passage GenWeb Site for direct links. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~easternpassage/links.html Mail Lists http://lists.rootsweb.com/ Message Boards http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/script/main/rw Have a good day, everyone. ~~Susan List Admin

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Tupper, Thompson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DQC.2ACI/8.1 Message Board Post: Hi Patricia. I am also searching for an Elizabeth Tupper. However mine has history in Ontario/ Durham County/ Cavan circa 1800-1850. DId you ever receive any erplies to you Roots Web post? Thank you. David

To all lovers of music:- My typing speed has always been good -- but keeping in time to 1984 Nova Scotia Tattoo music has made my fingers move a bit faster!! Where is this music? On the Sail On Nova Scotia internet/radio Live365 program, coming from Halifax, courtesy of Bryan Keddy. Today he has A Kitchen Party, plus the Tattoo music -- the guest United States Marine Corps band is now playing. Thought I would share it with you!! Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/bryanfkeddy/SONS.html --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: 8/2/02