This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: thomasamurray1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.novascotia.pictou/116.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My several times great aunt (and 1st cousin several times removed) Mary Anderson was not b. in Pictou Co., but in Northumberland Co., New Brunswick. Her mother (also a several times great aunt) was not b. in Murray River, but lived in Bedeque, PEI. That could mislead you. Mary (Murray) Anderson was the d/o John and Mary (Kennedy) Murray from Upper Mumbiehurst, near Canonbie, Dumfriesshire, Scotland to Harpersfield in up-state New York, to Shelburne, NS in 1783 to Bedeque in 1784. Mary's family was: 8. MARY MURRAY b. probably Harpersfield, NY ca. 1773 (age 78 census of 1851), d. 15JUL1857 age 84 years, bur. Moorefield Presbyterian Cem., m. ca. 1798 JAMES ANDERSON (b. Dreany, near Lossiemouth, Scotland 1761, d. Burnt Church, Northumberland Co., NB 1814 age 53 years, bur. Moorefield Presbyterian Cem. ) Children: 81. MARGARET ANDERSON b. ca. 1800, m. ALEXANDER STEWART (b. ca. 1789-90, d. Newcastle, Newcastle Parish, Northumberland Co., NB 19JAN1872 age 83 years), s/o Alexander and Margaret Stewart. Alexander and Margaret Stewart were in Newcastle Parish, Northumberland Co., NB in 1851 living next to Robert Simpson and James Simpson [87A]; where James' wife, Janet, is Margaret's sister. Alexander's father may be the Alexander Stewart who died on the Miramichi 9MAY1827 age 46 years. 82. JANE ANDERSON b. Oak Point, NB ca. 1801-2, d. Tabusintac, Alnwick Parish, Northumberland Co., NB 27APR1864, age 62 years, m. HUGH MURRAY [34] (b. ca. 1797-9, d. Tabusintac, Alnwick Parish, Northumberland Co., NB 29MAY1884 age 85 years), s/o John and Mary (Liza?) (Chambers?) Murray 83. WILLIAM ANDERSON b. 6APR1803, d. 10AUG1857, bur. First Presbyterian Church Cem., Burnt Church, Alnwick Parish, Northumberland Co., NB, unm. Headstones in First Presbyterian Church Cem., Burnt Church, Alnwick Parish, Northumberland Co., NB IN MEMORY OF WILLIAM ANDERSON BORN APRIL 6, 1803 DIED AUG. 10, 1857 JAMES ANDERSON BORN MAY 6, 1806 DIED NOV. 25 1866 (FOOT MARKER W.A. - J.A.) 84. JAMES ANDERSON b. 6MAY1806, d. 25NOV1866, bur. First Presbyterian Church Cem., Burnt Church, Alnwick Parish, Northumberland Co., NB, unm. 85. MARY ANDERSON b. Burnt Church, Alnwick Parish, Northumberland Co., NB 24MAY1808, d. New Jersey, Alnwick Parish, Northumberland Co., NB 28FEB1901 age 92 years, bur. First Presbyterian Church Cem., Burnt Church, Alnwick Parish, Northumberland Co., NB, m. JOHN CASSIDY (b. Nova Scotia ca. 1797, d. 29JAN1872 aet. 74 years, bur. First Presbyterian Church Cem., Burnt Church, Alnwick Parish, Northumberland Co., NB), s/o John and Lady Elizabeth (Mackie) Cassidy. (There is some question as to John's parents, and an alternate (and far more likely) offering is James and Martha (Turnbull) Cassidy. IN MEMORY OF JOHN CASSIDY WHO DIED JAN. 29, 1872 IN HIS 74th YEAR A NATIVE OF NOVA SCOTIA (NEXT LINE NOT LEGIBLE) HIS WIFE MARY ANDERSON BORN MAY 24, 1808 Died Feb. 28, 1901 (FOOT MARKER J.C.) "The History of Miscou, Tracadie, Pokemouche, Caraquet, Tabusintac, Néguac and Burnt Church", W. F. Ganong: "Cassidy was son of an Irishman who worked for a Laird in Scotland and eloped to America with his daughter, as it is said." [Ganong's say-so does not make Cassidy's father-in-law a member of titled nobility, nor his wife necessarily a "Lady", in the aristocratic sense. Somewhat more definite proof is needed before that conclusion can be made. 'Laird' could be any large landowner, and Lady was a courtesy title to a daughter of a titled noble when she had no title of her own.] Jack Cassidy, in an e-mail dated 25SEP2002, gives another suggestion. He refers to brothers, John and James Cassidy, Irish Protestants, who settled first in Pictou Co., NS ca, 1789. John m. Margaret Turnbull, and James m. Martha Turnbull, Margaret's sister, daughters of Thomas and Jean (or Jane) (MacKay) Turnbull. Amongst James' children were: James who eventually d. 1880 in Newcastle, NB, John b. ca. 1800, Andrew b. ca. 1802 and William b. ca. 1803. Jack Cassidy suggests that John, s/o James, might be the same John Cassidy who m. Mary Anderson. His reasons for believing this are: i. John Cassidy's headstone in Burnt Church gives his birthplace as Nova Scotia, and an obituary in the, Union Advocate, February, 1872, states he was "a Native of Pictou, Nova Scotia". His obit was also carried by the, Presbyterian Witness, Halifax. ii. The names of the children of John and Mary (Murray) Cassidy, James of Pictou Co. and his son. also James, all included: Martha, James, John, Andrew, William, Mary and Margaret. iii. James Cassidy, his sons; James, John and William, and his nephew, John Cassidy, s/o John, were all mentioned as being in the 1825 Miramichi Fire. "This information is derived from the NB Archives via the Miramichi Fire List recording losses due to the fire, and from the newspaper, Miramichi Mercury, which published a list of letters unclaimed in the Miramichi Post Office in 1826." iv. "I have copies of Land Petitions for James Cassidy (1827), John Cassidy (1826) and William Cassidy (1827) from the NB Archives. At those times, all are recently married - my James (ggrandfather) was first married (he married twice) in 1824; his brother John about 1825, (1st child Martha, if he is John of Burnt Church, was born April 18, 1826), and his brother William 1925/1826. Of interest is the spelling of Cassidy in one part of John Cassidy's land petition - CASADY - the same as the spelling in the 1817 Pictou census. John's land petition (F-4203) at that time was for 200 acres on the Great Nepisiguit River. The petition also says John had been in NB for 3 years in 1826. Interestingly, John of Burnt Church entered NB in 1823 per the 1851 census." vi. Lady Elizabeth MacKay (or variations) is said to have run from Scotland to marry one of her father's employees. Jack Cassidy relates: "Thomas Turnbull and Jean (Jane) MacKay arrived on PEI in 1774 from Scotland on the vessel Lovely Nelly. In 1775 they relocated to Pictou. On the 'Lovely Nelly' passenger list is given the reason the Turnbulls left Scotland which was "run away from this place", as a similar tradition. added to this, Jack wrote in a query dated 22JUN2004: John Cassidy (b.1757 Ireland, d.1842, Magdelan Islands, Quebec, Canada) arrived in Pictou, Nova Scotia in 1788/89 with a group of Lowland Scots on a vessel from Dumfriesshire, Scotland. That he was Irish is proven by his headstone in Canada - "In Memory of JOHN CASSIDY, Schoolmaster, a native of Ireland, died November 28, 1842, aged 85 years." No knowledge as to why he sailed from Scotland. He was married by Presbytarian Clergy, in Pictou in 1793 per Pictou marriage records. His brother JAMES CASSIDY also came to Pictou, either with John or later. James married in Pictou abt. 1796/97 based on birth of first child in 1798. They married Margaret and Martha Turnbull respectively, who were sisters. John and James both named their first born son - JAMES, suggesting perhaps their father was a James. Elsewhere, Jack refers to a work, A History of the County of Pictou, Nova Scotia, written in 1877 by The Rev. George Patterson. Elva Connors (11FEB2003) added information on the children of John and Mary Cassidy. 86. ELIZABETH ANDERSON b. 1APR1810, d. 21MAY1884, bur. First Presbyterian Church Cem., Burnt Church, Alnwick Parish, Northumberland Co., NB, m. 17OCT1839 ROBERT DAVIDSON (b. Oak Point, NB 30MAR1796 (headstone says 30MAR1800), d. Burnt Church, NB 08OCT1886, bur. First Presbyterian Church Cem., Burnt Church, Alnwick Parish, Northumberland Co., NB), s/o John and Margaret (Loggie) Davidson. (See Hugh Murray [34].) 87. JANET ANDERSON b. Oak Point, Northumberland Co., NB ca. 1812-3, m. JAMES SIMPSON (b. ca. 1808-9), s/o? John and Helen (Eleanor) (Hyde) Simpson. James may have been connected to William Simpson [76A]. John Garner, (Ancestry.com, Simpson board, 20AUG2001), whose notes for James Simpson include: "Entered NB in 1830. Came with his brother who went onto the US and then back to Canada. Not certain these are his parents. 1851 census implies James was born in 1809. Family # 376 in 1851 census. "Sources: Daniel F. Johnson, Vital Statistics From New Brunswick (Canada) Newspapers." Possibly the reference to a brother may have something to do with an entry on the 25MAY1861 edition of the Chatham, "The Gleaner and Northumberland Schediasma", which has an entry abstracted as: "d. At his residence, Lower District, Newcastle parish (North. Co.), 18th inst., Robert Simpson, Sr., age 75, native of Parish of Speymouth, Morayshire, Scotland. Emigrated to this Country in 1830." This Robert Simpson (ca. 1786-1861) would seem, however, to have been more likely a father than brother. Robert Simpson, in Newcastle Parish in 1851, was b. ca. 1788, arrived 1830 and had a wife, Margaret (Sinclair), b. ca. 1798. While it is unlikely that Margaret could be James' mother a connection appears to exist as James Simpson's household is listed next to Robert Simpson's in 1851. The next household, after Robert's, is that of Alexander (ca. 1790) and Margaret [81] (ca. 1800) Stewart where Margaret is Janet's sister. Clearly Robert and James Simpson were connected in some way. William Simpson [76A] mentioned above was from Rothes, Morayshire, Scotland. Also from Rothes, Morayshire, Scotland was Henry Simpson (b. ca. 1778, d. Newcastle 9MAY1859 age 81 years.) James Simpson, and apparently a brother, Robert Simpson, seem connected to Henry as "Henery" headed the household largely consisting of Robert Simpson and his family. It seems as if Henry Simpson was likely an elder brother to Robert Simpson, and according to a death notice and the 1851 census, arrived before them in 1802-3. While it seems inescapable that Henry (ca. 1778), Robert (ca. 1786), James (ca. 1808-9) and William Simpson (b. Rothes, Morayshire, Scotland 30OCT1802, bpt. Elgin Parish 7NOV1802, d. Burnt Church, NB 22APR1884, bur. Old Burnt Church Cem., Burnt Church, Alnwick Parish, Northumberland Co., NB), s/o Joseph (1775-1846) and Janet (Ogilvie) Simpson are somehow related the relationships seem to be of a slightly extended family. Henry Simpson seems to have been a bachelor, a! nd likely was a brother to Robert and possibly James. William Simpson (b. 1802) is given as his nephew. Henery Simspon and William's father, Joseph J. Simpson, are given as sons of Archibald and Elspeth (Scott) Simpson. James (42) and Janet (38) Simpson are in Newcastle Parish, Northumberland Co., NB in 1851. James is a joiner b. Scotland and arrived in 1830. Janet was b. NB. Children are Robert (16), James (14), Janet (10), Henry (7), Christina (5) and John (2.) 88. JOHN ANDERSON b. ca. 1814, d. 2OCT1874 aet. 60 years, bur. First Presbyterian Church Cem., Burnt Church, Alnwick Parish, Northumberland Co., NB, m. MARGARY LOGGIE (b. ca. 1816, d. 23FEB1879 aet. 62 years, bur. First Presbyterian Church Cem., Burnt Church, Alnwick Parish, Northumberland Co., NB Thomas Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. 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