This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DawnEdlund Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.newbrunswick.westmorland/1788.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Mary I am trying to puzzle out the Hiltz / Hicks / Horsman / Lutz connections. Here's what I have so far [any corrections gratefully accepted]. Andrew Hiltz, b. 1839, 1841 or 1843, depending whether you rely on the 1861, 1871 or 1881 census records. I found Andrew & Deborah Hiltey in 1881 LDS census, which appears to be the family. Andrew dies before about May 1891, because Deborah is a widow at the time the 1891 census is taken. He married Barbara Ann Horsman [b. abt 1849 in 1861 census; b. abt 1844 in 1871 census -- note that if you believe the 1861 census, she was about 15 when 1st son born]. Andrew was servant in household of Mathias & Elizabeth Horsman in 1861 census, age 22. Their children: 1. William Hiltz; married Prudence Lavinia Hicks [d/o Hazen Botsford Hicks & Zena Ann Lutz]. Again, depending what census you believe in, William born in the 1864 - 1866 range. 2. Rashael Hiltz [b. abt 1866; age 5 in 1871] - no further records 3. Jerusha Hiltz [b. abt 1866; age 5 in 1871] - no further records 4. Mary E. Hiltz [b. abt 1869 -- 1871 census; OR b. abt 1867 -- 1881 census] 5. Rachel J. [b. abt 1869 in the 1881 census; not in the 1871 census at all]. She may be the Rachel Jane Hiltz who is having children with James N. Lutes from 1893 - 1906 in the Late Registration of Birth records. 6. Julia A. Hiltz [b. abt 1871] After Barbara (Horsman) Hiltz's death in 1874, Andrew Hiltz married Deborah Lutes / Lutz on 23 Jan 1875. Researchers say they had no issue. Is there a chance they adopted any children? This is why I ask. In the 1881 census, there is another child shown: Genevieve, age 3 [b. abt 1878]. In 1891, her name is given as "Generera"; in 1901 she is "Genevera", b. 3 June 1879, sister of William Hiltz, who is head of household. There is also a Frederick L. who shows up in the 1891 and 1901 records. According to 1901, he was born 26 March 1882, brother of William Hiltz, head of household. There is a burial record in Elmwood Cemetery in Moncton for Frederick Lorne Hiltz, b. 27 Mar 1881 in Berry Mills; d. 21 Dec 1958. As for daughters of Deborah Lutz / Lutes, I have: - Zena Ann Lutz, who married Hazen Botsford Hicks in April 1871 [she is age 9 in 1861 census, living with grandparents Charles & Margaret Lutes] - Jane Lutz, first appears in the 1891 census, with the widowed Deborah Hitlz [spelling in the record] as head of household. She is 27 years old [b. abt 1864]. For William Hiltz & Prudence Hicks, I have 8 children. 1. Lottie, b. 12 Jun 1892; married John Beers 2. Della M., b. 20 April 1894; married Lee Killam 3. Georgie A., b. 5 Dec 1895; married Gorham W. Power [buried in Elmwood Cemetery; husband's name there is Gordon] 4. Hazen B., b. 3 Feb 1900; married Florence Atkins 5. William Pearson, b. Jun 1902; married Annie Ogden 6. Josfina A., b. April 1906 7. Lena A. [Zena Alta], b. April 1910; married Gurney Bertram Wilbur; buried in Elmwood Cemetery 8. Murray Ivan, b. 7 April 1912; married Bertha Sherwood. Deborah (Lutz) Hiltz is still alive at the time the 1911 census was recorded -- 80 years old, living in household of William Hiltz. No idea of when she died. So, after all of that, I'd appreciate help from anyone who can confirm what I've pieced together, or corrections / additions, of course. Thanks much in advance! Dawn Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.