The Northumberalnd County Census and Cemetery Transcriptions can be purchased through the Miramichi Branch of the NB Genealogical Society. Check them out at www.nbgsmiramichi.org for ordering info Dianne ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 4:02 AM Subject: CAN-NB-NORTHUMBERLAND Digest, Vol 2, Issue 31 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: wiseman ([email protected]) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:35:18 -0000 > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Northumberland Co NB] wiseman > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: S_Journeau > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.newbrunswick.northumberland/1243.1.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Thank you so much for this information. I was about to order the 1861 > census from the Vital Records of New Brunswick, thinking some info might > be in that document. Unfortunately, the 1851 volumne doesn't seem to be > available for purchase. this would be even more revealing I think. I also > came across a newspaper article reporting the suspicious death of a man > named Wiseman, who was murdered in 1959. Our family "legends" have it that > james cornelius was in fact murdered on Halloween night, and that he was > the paymaster at the railway. This would account for why his name isn't on > the census. Any other guidance you might offer woudl be appreciated,,Many > Thanks, > > Sharon Journeau > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the CAN-NB-NORTHUMBERLAND list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the CAN-NB-NORTHUMBERLAND mailing list, send an email > to [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of CAN-NB-NORTHUMBERLAND Digest, Vol 2, Issue 31 > **************************************************** >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: S_Journeau Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.newbrunswick.northumberland/1243.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you so much for this information. I was about to order the 1861 census from the Vital Records of New Brunswick, thinking some info might be in that document. Unfortunately, the 1851 volumne doesn't seem to be available for purchase. this would be even more revealing I think. I also came across a newspaper article reporting the suspicious death of a man named Wiseman, who was murdered in 1959. Our family "legends" have it that james cornelius was in fact murdered on Halloween night, and that he was the paymaster at the railway. This would account for why his name isn't on the census. Any other guidance you might offer woudl be appreciated,,Many Thanks, Sharon Journeau Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Suzanne4440 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.newbrunswick.northumberland/1243.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Yuo probably already had the newspaper marriage of George WISEMAN which states that Cornelius was already dead. Date November 20, 1878 County Northumberland Place Newcastle Newspaper Union Advocate The language of the text is the original used in the newspaper entry and as transcribed by Daniel F. Johnson. Records acquired by the Provincial Archives are not translated from the language in which they originate. m. By Banns, 5th inst., St. James Church, Port Daniel, P.Q., by Rev. R. James Harvey, George Alfred WISEMAN s/o late Cornelius WISEMAN of Bathurst (Glouc. Co.) / Ellen DEA youngest d/o John DEA, Esq., Port Daniel, P.Q. ------------------------------------------------------ I checked the 1861 Bathurst census and found this.... WILSON George 58 father Irish farmer Episcopalian Sarah 65 wife Irish Episc. Children all born NB, episcopalians Anne 24 Thomas 23 laborer WISEMAN, George 2 grandson episc. So it appears that Cornelius was dead by 1861 and Anne moved back in with her parents with baby George. ---------------------------------------------------------- As for Cornelius WISEMAN's roots, his parents no doubt part of the group which came over from Bandon, Co. Cork between 1817 and 1822. Different sources give different dates. If you check the website http://home.alphalink.com.au/~datatree/wolf 09.htm you will see the history of the Bandon Protestants and there is a wealth of info. Also make sure you check the message board at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Irish/CAN-CHALEUR-BAY-IRISH.html Good luck with your search, Suzanne Carter Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: S_Journeau Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.newbrunswick.northumberland/1243/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for ANY information regarding Cornelius Wiseman born in the Miramichi, Northumberland Ct. sometime after 1831. He eventually moved to Bathurst and married Ann Wilson whose father was an engineer and apparently had something to do with the construction of a bridge in Bathurst.He had one son, George Alfred, who moved to Port Daniel on the Gaspe coast where he married Ellen Dea. George Alfred's son, Cornelius Stillman Wiseman, was my grandfather. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Larry_Brinker Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.newbrunswick.northumberland/304.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have a Bridget b. abt. 1817 in Ireland m. Theodore Grey June 6 1834, children William, Andrew and Bridget born 1839. She is the daughter of Janes Buckley and Abigail Cadagan. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: letitbe191 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.newbrunswick.northumberland/1242/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi I'm looking for Descendants of the following families from Northumberland County New Brunswick. Catherine Ramsay married to Augustine Or Gustave Albert. Mary J Ramsay Married to Thomas White. Anastasie Nancy Ramsay Married to William Alexander Comeau. Sarah Ramsay married to William A Murdock. These ladies are the daughters of Peter Ramsay and Anastasie Savoie of Barryville, NB Thanks Aaron [email protected] Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: letitbe191 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.newbrunswick.northumberland/1241/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi I'm looking for Descendants of the following families from Northumberland County New Brunswick. Catherine Ramsay married to Augustine Or Gustave Albert. Mary J Ramsay Married to Thomas White. Anastasie Nancy Ramsay Married to William Alexander Comeau. Sarah Ramsay married to William A Murdock. These ladies are the daughters of Peter Ramsay and Anastasie Savoie of Barryville, NB Thanks Aaron [email protected] Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: letitbe191 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.newbrunswick.northumberland/1239.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Sandy Your Ramsay live in southesk Miramichi, If you g e-mail me I can give you more. Or go to [email protected] Thanks Aaron Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rikki162 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.newbrunswick.northumberland/389.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am descendant of Ichabod Mckay and Elizabeth Norrad Would like more information . Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rikki162 Surnames: Mckay/Norrad Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.newbrunswick.northumberland/389.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I too am looking for information about Ichabod McKay married to Elizabeth Norrad. I can trace my Norrad roots back to 1775. I cannot seem to find anything about Ichabod my email is [email protected] Would love to hear from you. I am a descendant of Ichabod and Elizabeth. Ichabod was my great great grandfather. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cmassine1 Surnames: Ramsay and Graham Classification: obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.newbrunswick.northumberland/1239.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have been searching for Archibald Ramsay who was a married man who got my great-grandmother. My great-grandmother's name was Florence Graham who lived in Newcastle. My Grandmother, Edith May Ramsay Graham was born of this event on October 21, 1903. My grandmother would never speak of her father. I only know he was from nearby town/village and he went back to his original family. Does anyone know anything more about Archibald Ramsay? Thank you. Sandy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: letitbe191 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.newbrunswick.northumberland/1239/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi I'm looking for descendants of Peter Ramsay & Anastasie Savoie. They where married on 11 May 1857 and lived in Barryville,NB Thanks Aaron Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dsdrane Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.newbrunswick.northumberland/1226.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Elaine -- Hello. I believe I am descended from the "Aron Thompson" from Chatham #439. Aaron Thompson is my gr-gr-grandfather and one of the most stubborn brick walls I've had in my research. The first verifiable documentation I have is a marriage certificate with Emily Welton in Hardwood Ridge, Sunbury Co., in 1865. The second is a death certificate from Auburn, Maine (where I grew up), in 1903 stating that his body had been returned to "Newcastle". Because Aaron & Family had relocated to an area called "Newcastle Bridge" in Queens Co. before finally emigrating to Maine, I always assumed that was where the body was sent. Two pieces of inforamtion seemed to contradict this: one, an older cousin had a recollection that Aaron was originally from the Miramichi area before arriving in Sunbury Co.; and, two, I found a baptismal record online from Chatham for an Aaron who is roughly the same age as the Aaron I was looking for. Circumstantial, yes, but also pretty convincing. The baptismal records name a Robert Thompson as the father. There are other children listed as well. The last child baptized is Isabella, presented by "Mrs. Robt. Thompson (widow)". I recently received an e-mail from someone saying that Robert's wife was the former Margaret McFarlane (which made sense because one of the children listed was a "Janet McFarlane Thompson"). This same person later forwarded a copy of their marriage "certificate" from 1822, naming Robert as of the Parish of Glenelg and Margaret as of the Parish of Chatham. The witnesses were Alexander McFarlane and Edw. H. Cutler. Margaret remarried a William Woods in 1844, but as you see in Glenelg #161, she is widowed again by 1851 and living with her son Joseph. One more piece of corroborating information linking my Aaron is the fact that his eldest daughter was named Margaret...perhaps after her paternal grandmother. If you Google "Aaron Thompson" and "Drane" you should be able to read up on all my Thompson posts. I notice you are also looking for Thompsons in Queens Co. Considering my Thompson made his way there, too, it looks like we're on parallel paths. If you'd prefer to contact me directly, my home e-mail is [email protected] Best regards, David Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dsdrane Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.newbrunswick.northumberland/397.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My direct e-mail is [email protected] Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dsdrane Surnames: Thompson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.newbrunswick.northumberland/397.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Allan! Well, looks like we have a match. I'm not 100% sure my Aaron is the son of Robert & Margaret (McFarlane) Thompson, but I'm definitely in the high 90s, percentage-wise. Aaron's 1st daughter was named Margaret. Family lore has him coming from the Miramichi area (before relocating further inland to Sunbury Co.) And there are precious few Aarons, period, at this time and in this place. Do any of there other children match up with your records (i.e., other than Janet)? Do you have additional information on the origins of the McFarlane or Thompson families...I'm assuming they were Scottish and 1st generation??? All the above is very exciting, because I've been trying to tie my Aaron to his roots for years. He's been one of my most stubborn brick walls. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: allanjohnston36 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.newbrunswick.northumberland/397.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi David, My name is Allan Johnston my interest is McFarlane,s from the Miramichi. I have a Margaret McFarlane mrr:Robert Thompson 13 dec. 1822. (Info from film# 11937 mrr: of N.B.) I also have child to them Janet (B)1832 (Info from F1121) My wife is calling to dinner Regards Allan [email protected] Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sharonhaggerty Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.newbrunswick.northumberland/275.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have some baptism records from the church of Ireland in Maryborough, Queen's county (Laois), children of William Murphy and Anne Meredith--dates between 1803 and 1815. See: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~sharonmh/Meredith/BAPTISMS-Maryborough.htm Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Appy14 Surnames: MURPHY/BREEN/ CAIN Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.newbrunswick.northumberland/275.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am trying to connect a William Murphy to my ancestry line. The family is reportedly from County Laois. Parents are Margaret ane Martin Murphy. They arrived in Nelson/Miramichi in about 1840. Any possibility of a connection? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.