This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DGlen22 Surnames: Flanagan, Ratte, Robear/Roberts Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.newbrunswick.kent/1093.4.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I just send an inquiry on this site re the original John Flanagan. My friend is descended from Ray Flanagan s/o Ned and Bridgette Ratte. Do you have any information that might help me ?? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DGlen22 Surnames: Flanagan, Ratte, Robear/Roberts Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.newbrunswick.kent/1195/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My friend has asked me to find her ancestor John Flanagan who was probably born in Ireland and came to Canada ca. 1820 and married Martha ???. and had son John b. ca. 1827 in New Brunswick and married Margaret Robears/Roberts. I have been able to pull together their family but unable to find John b. ca. 1801 in the 1851 census. I have found him and Martha in the 1861 census. Any new information on this original John??? My friend is descended from Raymond Flanagan s/o Ned and Bridgette Ratte b. 1925. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: brian_davidson157 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.newbrunswick.kent/1177.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi: Don't know if this is relevant or not. My Great grandfather has listed on his Marriage Certificate a Robert and Mary Murray living in Glencoe/Glen Levit New Brunswick as his parents. In reality his Mother was Cathernie Murray a daughter of Robert and Mary. I don't know if this is the same Mary or Magaret Murray or not. I am having trouble finding anything out about Robert Murray but I think he may have come from PEI.. Again, this is a long shot. Brian Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: wingweaver84 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.newbrunswick.kent/1171.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I clued into something when looking at James William Beck's death certificate earlier today. His date of birth is listed as December 23 1864,with his mother listed as Isabella Morrell. At that time his father Robert's first wife Elizabeth McDougall had died two months prior. Something going on,maybe?Also,I still cannot find any proof of Isabella's death,but I seem to have found a Mary Morrell aged about 40 in the 1881 census for Prince Edward Island. No marital status listed-she was on her own,though-and her religion was listed as Catholic. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sheila_42 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.newbrunswick.kent/1194.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: hi thomas, thank you so much for the info ,links and your time, his gr.gr.granddaughter is directly descended from william bradford the first govenor of mass., u.s.a. on her fathers side, she is trying to find info on her babineau ,martin, and guimond side of her family. once again thank you . sheila Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: thomasamurray1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.newbrunswick.kent/1194.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: It appears that Isaïe Babineau was b. St.-Louis-de-Kent, Kent Co., NB 3DEC1845 (ca. 1845, 4NOV1845 in 1901) to Léon and Marguerite (Breau) Babineau. He married Celeste Babin. Léon is said to have died in 1861, and Marguerite (48) 'Babinau' is a widow by the census of that year, in Palmerston Parish, Kent Co., NB. See: http://archives.gnb.ca/Search/VISSE/141C5.aspx?culture=en-CA&guid=566c2c56-54fe-409b-a1fd-0cf3c193f8fd http://archives.gnb.ca/Search/VISSE/141A2_2.aspx?culture=en-CA&guid=3cb9ab67-380b-429e-86a7-fcde85bc152b http://archives.gnb.ca/Search/VISSE/141A2_2.aspx?culture=en-CA&guid=37eb9e52-0486-4ecb-aabc-bc3dcc5c5fd8 http://archives.gnb.ca/Search/VISSE/141A2_2.aspx?culture=en-CA&guid=b7c6cfc3-b4e3-4736-9c2b-4f60330936ca http://archives.gnb.ca/Search/VISSE/141A2_2.aspx?culture=en-CA&guid=0dc6a998-5686-4d19-b6ba-3a72d892b024 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1861/jpg/4108515_00194.jpg Her children were Victorine (24), Lucy (23), Helene (22), Mary (20), Scholastique (19), Isaie (16), Susanne (14), Sylvain (12), Dominick (10), David (2) and Henry C. (4). Isaïe Babineau died Nelson Parish, Northumberland Co., NB 7NOV1920 age 75 years, 11 months and 4 days. See also: http://automatedgenealogy.com/census/View.jsp?id=5438&desc=1901 Census of Canada St. Louis KENT NEW BRUNSWICK http://archives.gnb.ca/Search/VISSE/141C5.aspx?culture=en-CA&guid=56582134-fa48-4c2f-9e06-f8de37003dc2 http://archives.gnb.ca/Search/VISSE/141C5.aspx?culture=en-CA&guid=e343c37f-1d7d-4106-92ea-f9bd33beea76 http://www.genealogie-acadienne.net/?action=indiDetails&I=8719 Thomas. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sheila_42 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.newbrunswick.kent/1194/mb.ashx Message Board Post: hi, i am looking for parents and siblings for an isaie babineau born 1844 and his wife celeste, also looking for their son leon born about 1877, he married marie henrietta guimond,she was born about 1881 to marcel guimond and agnes martin, marcel guimond born 1858/1859 to jean guimond ?any help with these families much appreciated, they were from st. louis,kent county.newbrunswick,canada. thank you sheila Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pennie1033199 Surnames: Thurrott Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.newbrunswick.kent/1193/mb.ashx Message Board Post: A 37 Y -DNA test plus a AUTOSOMAL DNA TEST by Frederick Thurrott's grandson has proven that Thomas William Cail is not the father of Frederick Thurrott. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Hello and Merry Christmas to all on the Listing: I am looking for any and all help on getting more information on Samuel F. Brown and Catherine (Fraser) Brown. Samuel and Catherine immigrated from Ireland about 1845 or 46. He got a land grant from Fredericton on 8 Dec 1854 for 100 acres in the parish of Weldford, Kent County. He was shown as a Shoemaker at that time. In the 1861 Census he is shown as a Cordwainer which is another name for a shoemaker. He and Catherine had 3 sons and a daughter with them as far as we can tell. I am thinking he and his family could have come over on a lumber ship in 1845 or 46. Ireland was sending ships over with passengers and taking back lumber to Ireland. They could have landed at Richibucto. Any help I can get about him and his family and about his neighbours in the area would greatly appreciated. Bob Brown roblen@eastlink.ca

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: johns1179 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.newbrunswick.kent/1192.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Lauri, Thanks for the edited post. The generic problem I have had with the early Sutherlands in NB is that the names George and James were pretty common names, and not being inside NB today, I can't just go down to the local church or cemetery and check things out. For example, with James there is an age conflict between the 1861 census age (b. 1826) and the gravestone age (b 1820). http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nbken/CemST_And.html I have a copy of the 1861 census, and I thought the cemetery gravestone age was a better fit for James, and that the census, like many census reports, could have wrong data. That assumption could have been very wrong - the gravestone could have been read incorrectly. I've just checked my backup records for Samuel Kent and find none, so I can't support the link at this time. I do have a record of a George Sutherland marrying an Elizabeth Semple on 27 Oct 1826. Both were listed from what appears to be the Parish of Cranston, NB. I don't know where that is, and I'm not certain this record is my George. I suspect it may not be. I am aware the parishes of Wellington and Carleton were created in 1814 as part of Northumberland County and that Kent County was formed from Northumberland County in 1826. Weldford Parish was established in 1835 from part of Richibucto Parish. Timing is everything, eh. The Weldford 1871 census shows both George sr. and James unlisted (both were dead by this time) and Mary (Lawson) Sutherland is shown as the head of the family. Ideally, I would have liked to reviewed the 1851 census, but as I recall, that census was somehow destroyed. Thanks for your ongoing help. John Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lpasher Surnames: Sutherland, Ferguson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.newbrunswick.kent/1192.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I found something else too, and would certainly explain why George lives beside the Ferguson's in 1861. His first marriage looks to be to widow Mary Ferguson on 06 Oct 1825. This is registered in Northumberland County. Hopefully, this link works: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-27454-51586-24?cc=2001063&wc=M6P5-Z2Q:284541001,284541701 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: johns1179 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.newbrunswick.kent/1192.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Laurie, Thank you. Let me work on this tomorrow. It looks interesting and certainly not in an area I was expecting. Best regards, John Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lpasher Surnames: Sutherland Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.newbrunswick.kent/1192.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I wonder if the following might help... I found the following record of a marriage in Richibucto in 1839. If this is your George, then the date would imply that this is George's second marriage, given James' birth, also the fact that he seems to be marrying a widow. This could explain the significant difference between the sons' ages: Daniel F. Johnson : Volume 8 Number 1 Date January 8 1839 County Northumberland Place Chatham Newspaper The Gleaner and Northumberland Schediasma m. 31st ult., Richibucto (Kent Co.) by Rev. James Hannay, George SUTHERLAND / Mrs. Elizabeth MANSON both of Weldford parish. George is alive on the 1861 census, living with his son James. Next door is Daniel Sutherland, born about 1841, living as a farm servant at the Ferguson/Graham's. A Daniel Sutherland, son of George and Elizabeth, aged 41, born Richibucto, is found marrying Agnes Stuart at Lower Cove, Cumberland, Nova Scotia on 25 Jan 1882. Could he be the same Daniel? And thus, James' brother or 1/2 brother? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: johns1179 Surnames: Sutherland Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.newbrunswick.kent/1192/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My second great grandfather was George Sutherland. He was born in Scotland, c 1793, and he died 24 Nov 1863 in Weldford, Kent, NB and was buried in Weldford. I don't have his wife's name, but he is believed to have had at least two children, James Sutherland, b. circa 1820 in Main River, Kent, and possibly Samuel Kent Sutherland, b. circa Aug 1842, Kent, NB. Please note the 22 year difference between ages for James and Samuel. This could imply an error in the information I have. James Sutherland was married to Mary Lawson, and the couple had 8 children, including Alexander (b. 08 Jul 1855, d. 21 Sep 1924), Robert Lawson (b.28 Feb 1857, d. 20 Sep 1930), Mary Esdale (b. 22 Jan 1859, d. 04 Sep 1945), George (#1) (b. Jun 1861, d. 27 Aug 1861), Jane (b. 11 Feb 1863, d. 21 Sep 1944), George (#2) (b. 23 May 1865, d. 26 Dec 1948), Elizabeth (Lizzie) (b. 06 Feb 1867, d. 01 Dec 1948), and James (b. circa 1868, d. 05 Aug 1895). I am looking for information on George Sutherland and his family, including how George came to Kent, NB (via clearances or military, etc), what he did for work, who was his wife, and who were his children. I believe George was Presbyterian. Any information will be helpful, all corrections are very much appreciated. Thank you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pennie1033199 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.newbrunswick.kent/84.2.1.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There has been information posted on message boards that Thomas William Cail born 1816 was the alleged father of Frederick Thurrott who was born out of wedlock in 1866,in Kent County New Brunswick ,Canada there is no documented proof to my knowledge that these statements are true, Frederick Thurrott paternal grandson Wayne L. Thurrott has done (a 37 Y-DNA Test) as well as ( AUTOSOMAL DNA TESTS).There was only 1 male Cail surname to compare Y- DNA there was not a match. In comparing( AUTOSOMAL DNA ) with 10 different Thomas William Cail descendants one of the descendants 3rd grandmother was the sister of Thomas Cail all of the descendants showed no shared Dna with Frederick's Dna .Frederick's origins are Northwest Ireland (Ulster) according to his dna markers ' some matches are with surnames O'Kane Mckeen Keane, Cain, McCain and other variants spellings,also a connection with the surname Malloy.Thomas William Cail origins are supposedly English,Frederick's origin! s are definitely Northwest Irish,the ethnicities don't match this should resolve the question that Thomas William Cail was not the father of Frederick Thurrott. Regards Valerie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lpasher Surnames: Thurrott Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.newbrunswick.kent/84.2.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Tim, I had heard the same. I had recent e-mail correspondence with someone who confirmed the DNA test results. Where did you have that tested? Was it a yDNA test and if yes, do the matches indicate the common ancestral surname? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sfaboston Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.newbrunswick.kent/84.2.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, Thomas Cail is not Frederick's father, we are researching this as well. It was shown in a recent DNA test, that he is not his father. Tim Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Hello Listers, James R. McLean married in Richibucto on 21 December 1861, Annie C. McPherson from P.E.I. They had three children: Hugh Munn McLean, about 1862; and Marion E. McLean, about 1866, are the only ones known. Who was the third? What became of James R. McLean? His wife and the two children settled in Chelsea, Mass., several years later. Looking for any information about James R. McLean, where he came from, and what became of him, as well as the third child. What significance does the name "Hugh Munn" have? It's not a name from the McPherson side of the family. George Sanborn Charlottetown PE --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lpasher Surnames: Morton, Thompson, Wales Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.newbrunswick.kent/1191.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: According to the description of the 1861 census on Ancestry.com, the 1861 census in New Brunswick was carried out on August 15th of that year. However, most of the enumerations were carried out later that year. So, while the census shows that Ann Lucinda (Jr) was 11 months old, had the census for that parish had been carried out in Nov or Dec of 1861, she would have been born in Jan or Feb of 1861, depending on the actual date. The 1901 census shows her specific birthdate as 10 Feb 1861. Her 2nd marriage to John H. Wales on 02 Dec 1919 in Manchester, New Hampshire, shows her age as 58 - which would imply an 1861 birth year. That's all I have for paper records to support her birth date - which I have recorded as 10 Feb 1861. I've been working with the 1901 census date, since everything else supports an 1861 birth year. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lpasher Surnames: Morton, Thompson, Thurrott Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.newbrunswick.kent/1191.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I cannot find an actual death for Ann Lucinda Morton, but it does say on page 153 of the book "West Branch Days", "Lucinda Ann (Thompson) died leaving her husband John a widower with seven children. On May 1, 1863, John Morton married Agnes Thurrott. She is reported to have been very beautiful. The marriage was performed by Rev.James Law; witnesses were another Agnes Thurrott, and John Robertson. This marriage too ended tragically. Agnes died in childbirth and the child died also." Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>