Hi Alan - I agree it would be very nice not to have to pay, but with Manitoba you get a photocopy of the original record and those I have received are always good and readable copies. I have not had dealings with B.C. although I believed that there was a charge there as well beyond the information published. I found I could only go so far with either if I wanted to verify names of parents, spouses on death records, or look for parent names on marriage registrations etc. I don't know what the charge would be, or if one could go directly to Vital Statistics and do your own search. I wonder if they would not charge for the photocopy anyway. Sincerely & Happy Easter Freda Stewart ----- Original Message ----- From: "A and S Thom" <shiral@efni.com> To: <CAN-MANITOBA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-Manitoba] Advice need re: Vital Statistics > Vicki, Freda and Darlene > > Thanks for the reply. It is pretty much as I suspected, the Manitoba > Government wants its pound of flesh for information that is in the public > domain and should be freely accessible. Regardless, the rate of 12$ is > outlandish. It would be nice if every province could match British > Columbia. Not only do they have a excellent on-line index but their 30 year > limit on deaths is unmatched and they are accesible (FREE) to anyone who > chooses to look them up. > > Anyway, Thank you for taking the time to explain the Manitoba policy. > > Alan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Freda" <fritzzi@shaw.ca> > To: <CAN-MANITOBA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 3:30 PM > Subject: Re: [CAN-Manitoba] Advice need re: Vital Statistics > > > > Hi Alan - I have been able to access copies of Manaitoba records which > are > > on line for various of the peripheral family members. Are you asking only > > about those already published or the unpublished? Have you pulled up the > > copy of the form that is on their website. It shows quite clearly what > info > > they require from you as to relationship, and when I have marked 'cousin' > or > > 'uncle' and indicate I do not know other family members, it has never been > > questioned. On Death forms where they indicate requiring cause of death I > > always put the note 'only if not contravening rules of confidentiality' > and > > I have always received the cause of death. This same form is usable for > > current records but if the person is still living there might be a > problem. > > It only costs $12.00 to obtain the piece of paper which is a photocopy of > > the actual registration, especially when you already have the number. My > > dealings with this group has always been very positive. Hope this helps. > > Best wishes > > Freda Stewart > > Calgary > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "A and S Thom" <shiral@efni.com> > > To: <CAN-MANITOBA-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:54 AM > > Subject: [CAN-Manitoba] Advice need re: Vital Statistics > > > > > > > I am new to research in Manitoba so I hope SKS can help. Are Manitoba > > Archives records, outside the 80, 90 or 100 year limit, accessible to > > non-family? If so, is there someone on this list who would be willing to > do > > a look-up of a marriage of Christina Jessie SINCLAIR to Wyman Ernest > WESSALS > > on 14 June 1917 in Winnipeg (Wpg) Reg # 1917,033325. > > > > > > Thank you, > > > Alan Thom > > > Ontario > > > > > > > > > ==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== > > > CAN-MANITOBA-L Mailing List > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~canmb/canmanitoba.htm > > > > > > ============================== > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== > > CAN-MANITOBA-L Mailing List > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~canmb/canmanitoba.htm > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== > Visit the Canada GenWeb Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~canwgw/ > See the Resources and Projects > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

If you go to the BC Archives in Victoria, BC., and have the info, you can look up the BMD's, and pay only 50 cents for the photocopy....If you send it to the Archives via credit card online, it costs about $12.00 plus tax.. I wonder if you can do the same thing at the Manitoba Archives, go in and read the film and then get a photocopy cheaper?...

On the Manitoba Vitals site, on Birth records, if you look at the "Detail View", you will see the name of the mother. That helps, a lot. I just wish the births were released before 100 years. Bill S ===== Lynton (Bill) Stewart Metis, Scots and English Ancestry, Loyalist and Patriot, USA and Canadian. Without them, I wouldn't be here. .

Freda and other listers - there are 2 ways of getting a bmd from BC. The first one is you order it directly from the Archives, and it costs I think about 50 buckaroos (or maybe it's only 20 - did I say only?), at any rate too much. The second route is to put your request on the BC List. Several times a year I do free lookups at Cloverdale library for people who are too distant from a genealogical library in BC. There are other listers in BC who do the same. The listers will get it either for Free, or only charge you the 50 cents for the copying fee at the library and the postage. I don't think you can beat that. The important thing to remember is that you order a REGISTRATION...NOT A "CERTIFICATE". A certificate can only be purchased from the Archives and is just verification of the bmd, with not a lot of info. The registration is the long form giving a lot of information usually, dependent upon the knowledge of the informant (ie spouse, parent, brother etc.) So yes, we have to pay everywhere in Canada, but there is no point in paying more than you absolutely have to. Personally, I was pleased when the Manitoba Index became available, even with it's restrictions. It would be very nice if the same thing were available in all the other provinces....let's just hope that 1911 census gets released - right??!! Happy Easter to those who celebrate, April At 02:26 PM 4/10/2004, you wrote: > Hi Alan - I agree it would be very nice not to have to pay, but with >Manitoba you get a photocopy of the original record and those I have >received are always good and readable copies. I have not had dealings with >B.C. although I believed that there was a charge there as well beyond the >information published. I found I could only go so far with either if I >wanted to verify names of parents, spouses on death records, or look for >parent names on marriage registrations etc. I don't know what the charge >would be, or if one could go directly to Vital Statistics and do your own >search. I wonder if they would not charge for the photocopy anyway. > Sincerely & Happy Easter > Freda Stewart > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "A and S Thom" <shiral@efni.com> > To: <CAN-MANITOBA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 4:58 PM > Subject: Re: [CAN-Manitoba] Advice need re: Vital Statistics > > > > Vicki, Freda and Darlene > > > > Thanks for the reply. It is pretty much as I suspected, the Manitoba > > Government wants its pound of flesh for information that is in the >public > > domain and should be freely accessible. Regardless, the rate of 12$ is > > outlandish. It would be nice if every province could match British > > Columbia. Not only do they have a excellent on-line index but their 30 >year > > limit on deaths is unmatched and they are accesible (FREE) to anyone who > > chooses to look them up. > > > > Anyway, Thank you for taking the time to explain the Manitoba policy. > > > > Alan > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Freda" <fritzzi@shaw.ca> > > To: <CAN-MANITOBA-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 3:30 PM > > Subject: Re: [CAN-Manitoba] Advice need re: Vital Statistics > > > > > > > Hi Alan - I have been able to access copies of Manaitoba records >which > > are > > > on line for various of the peripheral family members. Are you asking >only > > > about those already published or the unpublished? Have you pulled up >the > > > copy of the form that is on their website. It shows quite clearly what > > info > > > they require from you as to relationship, and when I have marked >'cousin' > > or > > > 'uncle' and indicate I do not know other family members, it has never >been > > > questioned. On Death forms where they indicate requiring cause of >death I > > > always put the note 'only if not contravening rules of >confidentiality' > > and > > > I have always received the cause of death. This same form is usable >for > > > current records but if the person is still living there might be a > > problem. > > > It only costs $12.00 to obtain the piece of paper which is a photocopy >of > > > the actual registration, especially when you already have the number. >My > > > dealings with this group has always been very positive. Hope this >helps. > > > Best wishes > > > Freda Stewart > > > Calgary > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "A and S Thom" <shiral@efni.com> > > > To: <CAN-MANITOBA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:54 AM > > > Subject: [CAN-Manitoba] Advice need re: Vital Statistics > > > > > > > > > > I am new to research in Manitoba so I hope SKS can help. Are >Manitoba > > > Archives records, outside the 80, 90 or 100 year limit, accessible to > > > non-family? If so, is there someone on this list who would be willing >to > > do > > > a look-up of a marriage of Christina Jessie SINCLAIR to Wyman Ernest > > WESSALS > > > on 14 June 1917 in Winnipeg (Wpg) Reg # 1917,033325. > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > Alan Thom > > > > Ontario > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== > > > > CAN-MANITOBA-L Mailing List > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~canmb/canmanitoba.htm > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new >Immigration > > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== > > > CAN-MANITOBA-L Mailing List > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~canmb/canmanitoba.htm > > > > > > ============================== > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== > > Visit the Canada GenWeb Project > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~canwgw/ > > See the Resources and Projects > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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You might also try a group called Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness, which is a group of volunteers from around the world that could research such information. The details of that group are at www.raogk.org -----Original Message----- From: April Bell [mailto:abellraven@telus.net] Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 4:24 PM To: CAN-MANITOBA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CAN-Manitoba] Advice need re: Vital Statistics Freda and other listers - there are 2 ways of getting a bmd from BC. The first one is you order it directly from the Archives, and it costs I think about 50 buckaroos (or maybe it's only 20 - did I say only?), at any rate too much. The second route is to put your request on the BC List. Several times a year I do free lookups at Cloverdale library for people who are too distant from a genealogical library in BC. There are other listers in BC who do the same. The listers will get it either for Free, or only charge you the 50 cents for the copying fee at the library and the postage. I don't think you can beat that. The important thing to remember is that you order a REGISTRATION...NOT A "CERTIFICATE". A certificate can only be purchased from the Archives and is just verification of the bmd, with not a lot of info. The registration is the long form giving a lot of information usually, dependent upon the knowledge of the informant (ie spouse, parent, brother etc.) So yes, we have to pay everywhere in Canada, but there is no point in paying more than you absolutely have to. Personally, I was pleased when the Manitoba Index became available, even with it's restrictions. It would be very nice if the same thing were available in all the other provinces....let's just hope that 1911 census gets released - right??!! Happy Easter to those who celebrate, April At 02:26 PM 4/10/2004, you wrote: > Hi Alan - I agree it would be very nice not to have to pay, but with >Manitoba you get a photocopy of the original record and those I have >received are always good and readable copies. I have not had dealings with >B.C. although I believed that there was a charge there as well beyond the >information published. I found I could only go so far with either if I >wanted to verify names of parents, spouses on death records, or look for >parent names on marriage registrations etc. I don't know what the charge >would be, or if one could go directly to Vital Statistics and do your own >search. I wonder if they would not charge for the photocopy anyway. > Sincerely & Happy Easter > Freda Stewart > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "A and S Thom" <shiral@efni.com> > To: <CAN-MANITOBA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 4:58 PM > Subject: Re: [CAN-Manitoba] Advice need re: Vital Statistics > > > > Vicki, Freda and Darlene > > > > Thanks for the reply. It is pretty much as I suspected, the Manitoba > > Government wants its pound of flesh for information that is in the >public > > domain and should be freely accessible. Regardless, the rate of 12$ is > > outlandish. It would be nice if every province could match British > > Columbia. Not only do they have a excellent on-line index but their 30 >year > > limit on deaths is unmatched and they are accesible (FREE) to anyone who > > chooses to look them up. > > > > Anyway, Thank you for taking the time to explain the Manitoba policy. > > > > Alan > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Freda" <fritzzi@shaw.ca> > > To: <CAN-MANITOBA-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 3:30 PM > > Subject: Re: [CAN-Manitoba] Advice need re: Vital Statistics > > > > > > > Hi Alan - I have been able to access copies of Manaitoba records >which > > are > > > on line for various of the peripheral family members. Are you asking >only > > > about those already published or the unpublished? Have you pulled up >the > > > copy of the form that is on their website. It shows quite clearly what > > info > > > they require from you as to relationship, and when I have marked >'cousin' > > or > > > 'uncle' and indicate I do not know other family members, it has never >been > > > questioned. On Death forms where they indicate requiring cause of >death I > > > always put the note 'only if not contravening rules of >confidentiality' > > and > > > I have always received the cause of death. This same form is usable >for > > > current records but if the person is still living there might be a > > problem. > > > It only costs $12.00 to obtain the piece of paper which is a photocopy >of > > > the actual registration, especially when you already have the number. >My > > > dealings with this group has always been very positive. Hope this >helps. > > > Best wishes > > > Freda Stewart > > > Calgary > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "A and S Thom" <shiral@efni.com> > > > To: <CAN-MANITOBA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:54 AM > > > Subject: [CAN-Manitoba] Advice need re: Vital Statistics > > > > > > > > > > I am new to research in Manitoba so I hope SKS can help. Are >Manitoba > > > Archives records, outside the 80, 90 or 100 year limit, accessible to > > > non-family? If so, is there someone on this list who would be willing >to > > do > > > a look-up of a marriage of Christina Jessie SINCLAIR to Wyman Ernest > > WESSALS > > > on 14 June 1917 in Winnipeg (Wpg) Reg # 1917,033325. > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > Alan Thom > > > > Ontario > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== > > > > CAN-MANITOBA-L Mailing List > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~canmb/canmanitoba.htm > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new >Immigration > > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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