Hi Darlene - Perhaps it depends on the mood and/or the level of the bureaucrat who is passed the application to process. B.C. has a pretty easy website to navigate and some basic info but of course they want to sell it - and the prices are astronomical. It is too bad that the provinces could not all get their act together with one format for info - maybe that will happen after the Canadian Geneological group gets underway. Freda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allen & Darlene Dowhaniuk" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [CAN-Manitoba] re: death certs > Freda, > I agree with you on the question about the next of kin !! On the application > there is a space for you to give an explanation why you couldn't get consent > from the next of kin and I stated "next of kin unknown". I wonder if that is > going to give me a problem.?? > Darlene > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Freda" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 8:01 AM > Subject: Re: [CAN-Manitoba] re: death certs > > > > Hi Max - Manitoba has the toughest regs for accessing certificates. In > > Alberta we can go to a local registry office and they will pull up the > > required certificate (provided it has been put into the system). As long > as > > you can give reasonable reason and relationship they don't fuss. They do > > cost $25.00 each. But there is also a time frame in which the information > > can be accessed - a specific number of years must pass before the info is > > made available. Ontario is much further ahead in this but then there are > > more of you as well. I have been able to find out quite a lot of info of > > late 1800's and was surprised to find so much online. As an afterthought - > > getting permission from next-of-kin for an 1880 certificate could prove > > somewhat difficult - I wonder if the person who thought that one up ever > > took the time to think that if we knew who the next of kin was we wouldn't > > need their dubious services. I really think that many of these government > > departments were caught totally unaware by the onslaught of people seeking > > family members. > > Freda Stewart > > Alberta > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "MaxandMarilynSutherland" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 8:35 AM > > Subject: Re: [CAN-Manitoba] re: death certs > > > > > > > Forgive an Easterner for jumping into the fray - I'm just anxious to > learn > > > something. How come the government in Manitoba requires permission from > > > next-of-kin to get a certificate dating from the 1880s? And you have to > > pay > > > for one? Does this mean that the Manitoba gvoernment didn't let the > Latter > > > Day Saints organization microfilm the BMD certificates and make them > > > available? > > > > > > I ask because almost any of the LDS research centres in towns and cities > > > here have a complete set of BMD certificates on microfilm for Ontario, > > > accessible and free to all, covering the period 1869-1932 (with a year's > > > worth of film added each succeeding year). No questions asked, no > > > permissions needed to transcribe or photocopy. > > > > > > I do realize that not everyone in the western provinces, where distances > > > (and increasingly the price of gas!) are certanly factors to deal with, > > can > > > get to an LDS centre easily if they're not in an urban area . But still, > > for > > > many of you, I would have thought the nearest local LDS centres would be > > > preferable to dealing with a remote government office. > > > > > > As I say, I'm simply curious, and also sympathetic. Doing family history > > can > > > be tough enough as it is. Forgive me if I "just don't understand the > > > situation". > > > > > > Max Sutherland > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Allen & Darlene Dowhaniuk" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 1:32 PM > > > Subject: Re: [CAN-Manitoba] re: death certs > > > > > > > > > Thank you Jayne & Norma for your advice. The following is what I > > > got back from the Manitoba Gov't.........so I guess I will just pay the > > > money and take a chance. Darlene > > > > > > ** Attached is an application for your convenience. > > > We require authorization of an immediate next of kin still living to > > > release > > > a record. Our records go back to 1882 with some church records prior > > > although not a full collection. We are able to search our data base > from > > > 1882 to present for the $25.00 fee. We only have records of events that > > > occurred in Manitoba. > > > Our genealogical searches take from six to eight weeks.** > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Jayne Paradis" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 7:43 AM > > > Subject: [CAN-Manitoba] re: death certs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'd double check before you send away for a death cert from 1888. I > > think > > > > their records start from the 1890s and actually may not contain > anymore > > > info > > > > than you already know. > > > > > > > > Jayne Paradis > > > > WInnipeg > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE*. > > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== > > > > CAN-MANITOBA-L Mailing List > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~canmb/canmanitoba.htm > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== > > > Canada GenWeb Archives Project > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~canwgw/cgwarchives.html > > > Primary Records for Canada > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go > > > to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== > > > Canada GenWeb Archives Project > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~canwgw/cgwarchives.html > > > Primary Records for Canada > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== > > Free Webspace at RootsWeb > > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/press/FPhistory.html > > Create your Genealogy Website! > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== > Manitoba GenWeb Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~canmb/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

When the application asked for "address" I put Heaven and how long there, and I got the certificate. Tish

Just as an aside, the next of kin is the next descendant who is still living. I sent for my husband's grandmother's death registration and put in the appropriate place "grandson" and signed my husband's name. This was for a 1934 registration. I received it. Shirley <snip>

I want to thank everyone who gave their input about death certificates. I mailed it off today .... I will let you know if I get a happy or miserable bureaucrat .(maybe I should have indicated that I was born in Winnipeg!!!) Darlene B.C. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Freda" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-Manitoba] re: death certs > Hi Darlene - Perhaps it depends on the mood and/or the level of the > bureaucrat who is passed the application to process. B.C. has a pretty easy > website to navigate and some basic info but of course they want to sell it - > and the prices are astronomical. It is too bad that the provinces could not > all get their act together with one format for info - maybe that will happen > after the Canadian Geneological group gets underway. > Freda > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Allen & Darlene Dowhaniuk" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:36 AM > Subject: Re: [CAN-Manitoba] re: death certs > > > > Freda, > > I agree with you on the question about the next of kin !! On the > application > > there is a space for you to give an explanation why you couldn't get > consent > > from the next of kin and I stated "next of kin unknown". I wonder if that > is > > going to give me a problem.?? > > Darlene > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Freda" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 8:01 AM > > Subject: Re: [CAN-Manitoba] re: death certs > > > > > > > Hi Max - Manitoba has the toughest regs for accessing certificates. In > > > Alberta we can go to a local registry office and they will pull up the > > > required certificate (provided it has been put into the system). As long > > as > > > you can give reasonable reason and relationship they don't fuss. They do > > > cost $25.00 each. But there is also a time frame in which the > information > > > can be accessed - a specific number of years must pass before the info > is > > > made available. Ontario is much further ahead in this but then there are > > > more of you as well. I have been able to find out quite a lot of info of > > > late 1800's and was surprised to find so much online. As an > afterthought - > > > getting permission from next-of-kin for an 1880 certificate could prove > > > somewhat difficult - I wonder if the person who thought that one up ever > > > took the time to think that if we knew who the next of kin was we > wouldn't > > > need their dubious services. I really think that many of these > government > > > departments were caught totally unaware by the onslaught of people > seeking > > > family members. > > > Freda Stewart > > > Alberta > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "MaxandMarilynSutherland" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 8:35 AM > > > Subject: Re: [CAN-Manitoba] re: death certs > > > > > > > > > > Forgive an Easterner for jumping into the fray - I'm just anxious to > > learn > > > > something. How come the government in Manitoba requires permission > from > > > > next-of-kin to get a certificate dating from the 1880s? And you have > to > > > pay > > > > for one? Does this mean that the Manitoba gvoernment didn't let the > > Latter > > > > Day Saints organization microfilm the BMD certificates and make them > > > > available? > > > > > > > > I ask because almost any of the LDS research centres in towns and > cities > > > > here have a complete set of BMD certificates on microfilm for Ontario, > > > > accessible and free to all, covering the period 1869-1932 (with a > year's > > > > worth of film added each succeeding year). No questions asked, no > > > > permissions needed to transcribe or photocopy. > > > > > > > > I do realize that not everyone in the western provinces, where > distances > > > > (and increasingly the price of gas!) are certanly factors to deal > with, > > > can > > > > get to an LDS centre easily if they're not in an urban area . But > still, > > > for > > > > many of you, I would have thought the nearest local LDS centres would > be > > > > preferable to dealing with a remote government office. > > > > > > > > As I say, I'm simply curious, and also sympathetic. Doing family > history > > > can > > > > be tough enough as it is. Forgive me if I "just don't understand the > > > > situation". > > > > > > > > Max Sutherland > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Allen & Darlene Dowhaniuk" <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 1:32 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [CAN-Manitoba] re: death certs > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you Jayne & Norma for your advice. The following is what I > > > > got back from the Manitoba Gov't.........so I guess I will just pay > the > > > > money and take a chance. Darlene > > > > > > > > ** Attached is an application for your convenience. > > > > We require authorization of an immediate next of kin still living to > > > > release > > > > a record. Our records go back to 1882 with some church records prior > > > > although not a full collection. We are able to search our data base > > from > > > > 1882 to present for the $25.00 fee. We only have records of events > that > > > > occurred in Manitoba. > > > > Our genealogical searches take from six to eight weeks.** > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Jayne Paradis" <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 7:43 AM > > > > Subject: [CAN-Manitoba] re: death certs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'd double check before you send away for a death cert from 1888. I > > > think > > > > > their records start from the 1890s and actually may not contain > > anymore > > > > info > > > > > than you already know. > > > > > > > > > > Jayne Paradis > > > > > WInnipeg > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE*. > > > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== > > > > > CAN-MANITOBA-L Mailing List > > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~canmb/canmanitoba.htm > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > > records, > > > > go to: > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== > > > > Canada GenWeb Archives Project > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~canwgw/cgwarchives.html > > > > Primary Records for Canada > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > > go > > > > to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== > > > > Canada GenWeb Archives Project > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~canwgw/cgwarchives.html > > > > Primary Records for Canada > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== > > > Free Webspace at RootsWeb > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/press/FPhistory.html > > > Create your Genealogy Website! > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== > > Manitoba GenWeb Project > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~canmb/ > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== > Canada GenWeb Archives Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~canwgw/cgwarchives.html > Primary Records for Canada > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >