This is a great site for links to Canadian Libraries and Archives. http://www.ramsaybooks.com/bookstore/liblinks.html Noreen

Hi Patricia, Thank you very much for the Whitemouth, Elma, Manitoba film numbers. When I looked at the LDS microfiche I was very confused. I didn't know how to find out what district these towns were in. Colleen Perry

Greetings, Lois: It is very easy. Just go to the Library and ask for the Inter-Library Loans Co-ordinator. Then give the co-ordinator all the details you have about what it is you wish to order in. They'll bring in any books or m/f's that are available. Books and microfiches usually arrive within a week or ten days, films may take several weeks depending on how long the queue is for those which you are ordering. (The Library must have a m/f reading machine.) Archives of Ontario sets a limit of three films per person at one time, and only issues them for two-weeks per order, with a possible two-week renewal. National Archives of Canada is more flexible as to quantity, and sends them for six weeks. The downside of NAC's flexibility, is that the wait in queue is often longer. Census m/f's are ordered through NAC (but the co-ordinator probably knows that). Kind Regards, Patricia Sherman lois remillard wrote: > > Hello I am really green at this..How does one order anything from a > district..especially birth records etc or anything from a library??

For 1881, I believe that both are in the Eastern Extension, and that is m/f# C-13283 through C-13284. For 1891 and 1901, I think that they are in the Subdistrict of La Broquerie (Provencher District), and films are T-6294 (1891), T-6434 (1901-nominal) and T-6438 (1901-agricultural). Kind regards, Patricia Sherman CMPSOFT@aol.com wrote: > > Does anyone know what CENSUS DISTRICT both WHITEMOUTH and ELMA, MANITOBA are > in? I would like to order the 1881, 1891 and 1901 census for these areas. > Colleen Perry

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Hello I am really green at this..How does one order anything from a district..especially birth records etc or anything from a library?? ----- Original Message ----- From: <CMPSOFT@aol.com> To: <CAN-MANITOBA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 4:12 PM Subject: [CAN-Manitoba] Census Districts : Does anyone know what CENSUS DISTRICT both WHITEMOUTH and ELMA, MANITOBA are : in? I would like to order the 1881, 1891 and 1901 census for these areas. : Colleen Perry : cmpsoft@aol.com : : : ==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== : Canada GenWeb Archives Project : http://www.rootsweb.com/~canwgw/cgwarchives.html : Primary Records for Canada : : ============================== : Genealogy calendars, guestbooks and more: : Visit RootsWeb's Resource Center at : http://resources.rootsweb.com/ :

Does anyone know what CENSUS DISTRICT both WHITEMOUTH and ELMA, MANITOBA are in? I would like to order the 1881, 1891 and 1901 census for these areas. Colleen Perry cmpsoft@aol.com

The Hudson's Bay Company Archives are accessible online at: http://www.gov.mb.ca/chc/archives/hbca/index.html Its archives are owned by the Government of Manitoba and administered as a division of the Provincial Archives of Manitoba in Winnipeg. They're a bit slow in responding to inquiries (6 to 8 weeks) but they're very thorough. You should receive an acknowledgement by email in a week or two after your initial inquiry. Make sure you provide all the information you have regarding dates, ships, locations, and any other pertinent information. I've accessed a lot of HBC info on my own family in Quebec, Ontario, Manitoba and Saskatchewan going back to the 1700's. This is a HUGE archive, and most data is not in digital form. They receive a lot of requests so all searches are done manually. Hence the wait. Hope this helps, John Leclair General Delivery Stanley Mission, Saskatchewan, CANADA S0J 2P0 306-635-2091 ----- Original Message ----- From: software <software@yellowknife.com> To: <CAN-MANITOBA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [CAN-Manitoba] Sutherland / Red River SEttlement > I'm very interested in this topic. I lived in Churchill for eleven > years. The community of Churchill today is located on the east side of > the Churchill River. In 1813, the settlement was on the west side, at > and/or adjacent to Fort Prince of Wales. > > I don't recall ever seeing any cemetery on the west side, although logic > would say that there is at least one. Since there's no bridge or ferry > across the river, it isn't common for residents to go across. In > summer, one uses a small boat, and in winter, one uses a dog-sled. In > most instances, this crossing is only done by tourists and guides > wishing to visit the old Fort, and they seldom stray any distance from > that point. I have visited the rock inscribed by Samuel Hearne, which > is really the only other destination of great interest. > > As far as records of the passengers on the Prince of Wales, if it isn't > listed by ISTG, or on one of the Red River Settlement sites, I think the > best bet for finding it is at the Hudson's Bay Company archives at > Hudson's Bay House in Winnipeg. These archives may have been > transferred to (or be held in duplicate at) Manitoba Provincial Archives > on Vaughan Street in Winnipeg. I suggest making a call or writing to > the Provincial Archivist, and/or to Hudson's Bay House. Although "The > Bay" was sold to the Northwest Company about ten years ago, I think that > H.B. House still exists (it has been about 15 years since I lived in > Winnipeg, so I'm not sure). > > Patricia Sherman > > Bette Kosmolak wrote: > > > > Maggie :re: My gggggrandfather John Sutherland came on the > > Prince of Wales to Churchill in 1813. My understanding is > > he died soon after his arrival. > > > > If he died soon after his arrival, the odds are that he is > > buried in Churchill. If he died while on the way to the > > Red River Settlement however, then I suppose he could be > > almost anywhere on that route. ... > > > > ==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== > Visit the Canada GenWeb Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~canwgw/ > See the Resources and Projects > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >

I'm very interested in this topic. I lived in Churchill for eleven years. The community of Churchill today is located on the east side of the Churchill River. In 1813, the settlement was on the west side, at and/or adjacent to Fort Prince of Wales. I don't recall ever seeing any cemetery on the west side, although logic would say that there is at least one. Since there's no bridge or ferry across the river, it isn't common for residents to go across. In summer, one uses a small boat, and in winter, one uses a dog-sled. In most instances, this crossing is only done by tourists and guides wishing to visit the old Fort, and they seldom stray any distance from that point. I have visited the rock inscribed by Samuel Hearne, which is really the only other destination of great interest. As far as records of the passengers on the Prince of Wales, if it isn't listed by ISTG, or on one of the Red River Settlement sites, I think the best bet for finding it is at the Hudson's Bay Company archives at Hudson's Bay House in Winnipeg. These archives may have been transferred to (or be held in duplicate at) Manitoba Provincial Archives on Vaughan Street in Winnipeg. I suggest making a call or writing to the Provincial Archivist, and/or to Hudson's Bay House. Although "The Bay" was sold to the Northwest Company about ten years ago, I think that H.B. House still exists (it has been about 15 years since I lived in Winnipeg, so I'm not sure). Patricia Sherman Bette Kosmolak wrote: > > Maggie :re: My gggggrandfather John Sutherland came on the > Prince of Wales to Churchill in 1813. My understanding is > he died soon after his arrival. > > If he died soon after his arrival, the odds are that he is > buried in Churchill. If he died while on the way to the > Red River Settlement however, then I suppose he could be > almost anywhere on that route. ...

Maggie :re: My gggggrandfather John Sutherland came on the Prince of Wales to Churchill in 1813. My understanding is he died soon after his arrival. If he died soon after his arrival, the odds are that he is buried in Churchill. If he died while on the way to the Red River Settlement however, then I suppose he could be almost anywhere on that route. Also,is there web site telling the story of The Red River Settlement? A Google search turns up 1,650 sites for "Red River Settlement." Just what do you want to know about it? Bette

In a message dated 8/1/00 8:15:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time, kosmo@pacificcoast.net writes: > My gggggrandfather John Sutherland came on the Prince of > Wales to Churchill in 1813. My understanding is he died soon after his > arrival. > > If he died soon after his arrival, the odds are that he is buried in > Churchill. If he died while on the way to the Red River Settlement > however, then I suppose he could be almost anywhere on that route. > Also,is there web site telling the story of The Red River Settlement? > > A Google search turns up 1,650 sites for "Red River Settlement." Just > what do you want to know about it? > < The story of my gggggrandfather James Buidh Sutherland related to me through Hamon Sutherland was kidnapped-By what persons?why was he kidnapped.? Maggi Finnigan-Sunny California f 87 Jmaes Buidh Sutherland is myggggggreat-grandfather > Bette

Noreen: Thank you I am now a member. Maggi Finnigan-sunny California

Dear R.Finnigan, Have you tried the Ship List site? http://www.theshipslist.com/ You may find some help there. If not join their mail list, someone on the list may be able to help you. Good luck! Noreen RESEARCHING UKRAINE>CANADA SURNAMES: KRUTZ/KRUST/KRUTS KORMYLO/CORMYLO/KORMELO PETRUNIAK ANTONIAK ----- Original Message ----- From: <RFinnigan@aol.com> To: <CAN-MANITOBA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 2:15 PM Subject: [CAN-Manitoba] Churchill 1813-1815 > Could someone point me in the right direction. My gggggrandfather John > Sutherland came on the Prince of Wales to Churchill in 1813. My understanding > is he died soon after his arrival.I am looking for the list of passengers for > more family. Also trying to find a buriel site for John. Also,is there web > site telling the story of The Red River Settlement? Any help would be > appreciated. Maggi Finnigan-sunny California. f 87 > > > ==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== > CAN-MANITOBA-L Mailing List > http://www.rootsweb.com/~canmb/canmanitoba.htm > > ============================== > Genealogy calendars, guestbooks and more: > Visit RootsWeb's Resource Center at > http://resources.rootsweb.com/ > >

I found the equivalent numbers, and thought I'd pass them along - C-13283 = 1375919 T-6293 = 1465718 T-6433 = 1843515 T-6437 = 1843519 Karen >Hello Patricia, >Thank you very much for the help on the film numbers. > >Does anyone have the equivalent LDS film numbers, please? > >Anyone have access to the indexes? > >Karen in Abbotsford BC > >>In 1881 and 1891 Carberry is in the Marquette District: >> >>1881 = C-13283 >>1891 = T-6293 >> >>In 1901 it is in the Macdonald District: >> >>1901 = T-6433 (Nominal) & T-6437 (Agricultural) >> >>Patricia Sherman

Could someone point me in the right direction. My gggggrandfather John Sutherland came on the Prince of Wales to Churchill in 1813. My understanding is he died soon after his arrival.I am looking for the list of passengers for more family. Also trying to find a buriel site for John. Also,is there web site telling the story of The Red River Settlement? Any help would be appreciated. Maggi Finnigan-sunny California. f 87

Hello Patricia, Thank you very much for the help on the film numbers. Does anyone have the equivalent LDS film numbers, please? Anyone have access to the indexes? Karen in Abbotsford BC >In 1881 and 1891 Carberry is in the Marquette District: > >1881 = C-13283 >1891 = T-6293 > >In 1901 it is in the Macdonald District: > >1901 = T-6433 (Nominal) & T-6437 (Agricultural) > >Patricia Sherman > > >K/H Start wrote: >> >> I am trying to help a friend get some basic information. Her >> ancestors were the family of Nathaniel FITZSIMMONS who lived in >> Carberry. This family may have moved there in time for the 1881 >> census, and for sure, by the 1891 census. (I know they were in Bruce >> County, Ontario in 1871, and have that information already.) I >> understand there are indexes available - would anyone be kind enough >> to check those out for me please? Nathaniel and his wife had 5 boys >> and 2 girls, and they could have moved out on their own by these >> later census periods. >> I have checked the Lookup page and don't see these indexes listed... >> I also searched the FHL catalogue, trying to figure out the correct >> film for the 1881, 1891 and 1901 census records for the Carberry >> area. Since I am unfamiliar with the area, I would appreciate it if >> someone could assist with this. >> Thank you for your assistance. >> Karen in Abbotsford BC >> >> ==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== >> CAN-MANITOBA-L Mailing List >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~canmb/canmanitoba.htm >> >> ============================== >> Ancestry.com now has more than 200,000 subscribers! To celebrate, >> access to ALL of Ancestry.com will be free from July 18 to July 31! >> http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/freepromo.asp?sourcecode=A11AM > >-- >patsherman@writeme.com or software@yellowknife.com >http://www.onelist.com/community/hall-geneseekers (listowner) >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~geneseeker >http://www.my-ged.com/hall-cda/ (online GEDCOM database) >http://users.internorth.com/~wiccan/personal/foyer_p.htm >*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* >In perpetual quest of elusive British and Canadian ancestors: >BEST-BOOTH-BUTTERS-HALL-HATCH-POOLE-POTTER-SHERMAN-TOMLIN-WEBB >*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > > > >==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== >Visit the Canada GenWeb Project >http://www.rootsweb.com/~canwgw/ >See the Resources and Projects > >============================== >Ancestry.com now has more than 200,000 subscribers! To celebrate, >access to ALL of Ancestry.com will be free from July 18 to July 31! >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/freepromo.asp?sourcecode=A11AM

I am researching the CZARNY surname from the Elma & Whitemouth, Manitoba area. Stefan Czarny changed his name to Stephen CHARNEY at some unknown point in time. I would like to order the 1881, 1891 and 1901 census from this area. Can anyone tell me which films to order? Colleen Perry in Minneapolis, Minnesota cmpsoft@aol.com

In 1881 and 1891 Carberry is in the Marquette District: 1881 = C-13283 1891 = T-6293 In 1901 it is in the Macdonald District: 1901 = T-6433 (Nominal) & T-6437 (Agricultural) Patricia Sherman K/H Start wrote: > > I am trying to help a friend get some basic information. Her > ancestors were the family of Nathaniel FITZSIMMONS who lived in > Carberry. This family may have moved there in time for the 1881 > census, and for sure, by the 1891 census. (I know they were in Bruce > County, Ontario in 1871, and have that information already.) I > understand there are indexes available - would anyone be kind enough > to check those out for me please? Nathaniel and his wife had 5 boys > and 2 girls, and they could have moved out on their own by these > later census periods. > I have checked the Lookup page and don't see these indexes listed... > I also searched the FHL catalogue, trying to figure out the correct > film for the 1881, 1891 and 1901 census records for the Carberry > area. Since I am unfamiliar with the area, I would appreciate it if > someone could assist with this. > Thank you for your assistance. > Karen in Abbotsford BC > > ==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== > CAN-MANITOBA-L Mailing List > http://www.rootsweb.com/~canmb/canmanitoba.htm > > ============================== > Ancestry.com now has more than 200,000 subscribers! To celebrate, > access to ALL of Ancestry.com will be free from July 18 to July 31! > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/freepromo.asp?sourcecode=A11AM -- patsherman@writeme.com or software@yellowknife.com http://www.onelist.com/community/hall-geneseekers (listowner) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~geneseeker http://www.my-ged.com/hall-cda/ (online GEDCOM database) http://users.internorth.com/~wiccan/personal/foyer_p.htm *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* In perpetual quest of elusive British and Canadian ancestors: BEST-BOOTH-BUTTERS-HALL-HATCH-POOLE-POTTER-SHERMAN-TOMLIN-WEBB *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

I am trying to help a friend get some basic information. Her ancestors were the family of Nathaniel FITZSIMMONS who lived in Carberry. This family may have moved there in time for the 1881 census, and for sure, by the 1891 census. (I know they were in Bruce County, Ontario in 1871, and have that information already.) I understand there are indexes available - would anyone be kind enough to check those out for me please? Nathaniel and his wife had 5 boys and 2 girls, and they could have moved out on their own by these later census periods. I have checked the Lookup page and don't see these indexes listed... I also searched the FHL catalogue, trying to figure out the correct film for the 1881, 1891 and 1901 census records for the Carberry area. Since I am unfamiliar with the area, I would appreciate it if someone could assist with this. Thank you for your assistance. Karen in Abbotsford BC

Hi Shirley..... Thanks for your reply regarding George Welby McCubbin. Since I have just started researching the McCubbin's, the only thing I know for sure is that he is the son of James Wesley McCubbin, b. 1844, at Saltfleet, Wentworth Co., Ontario and later moved to Manitoba. Will keep your info as it could possibly tie in later. Thanks again. Delores