Freda and other listers - there are 2 ways of getting a bmd from BC. The first one is you order it directly from the Archives, and it costs I think about 50 buckaroos (or maybe it's only 20 - did I say only?), at any rate too much. The second route is to put your request on the BC List. Several times a year I do free lookups at Cloverdale library for people who are too distant from a genealogical library in BC. There are other listers in BC who do the same. The listers will get it either for Free, or only charge you the 50 cents for the copying fee at the library and the postage. I don't think you can beat that. The important thing to remember is that you order a REGISTRATION...NOT A "CERTIFICATE". A certificate can only be purchased from the Archives and is just verification of the bmd, with not a lot of info. The registration is the long form giving a lot of information usually, dependent upon the knowledge of the informant (ie spouse, parent, brother etc.) So yes, we have to pay everywhere in Canada, but there is no point in paying more than you absolutely have to. Personally, I was pleased when the Manitoba Index became available, even with it's restrictions. It would be very nice if the same thing were available in all the other provinces....let's just hope that 1911 census gets released - right??!! Happy Easter to those who celebrate, April At 02:26 PM 4/10/2004, you wrote: > Hi Alan - I agree it would be very nice not to have to pay, but with >Manitoba you get a photocopy of the original record and those I have >received are always good and readable copies. I have not had dealings with >B.C. although I believed that there was a charge there as well beyond the >information published. I found I could only go so far with either if I >wanted to verify names of parents, spouses on death records, or look for >parent names on marriage registrations etc. I don't know what the charge >would be, or if one could go directly to Vital Statistics and do your own >search. I wonder if they would not charge for the photocopy anyway. > Sincerely & Happy Easter > Freda Stewart > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "A and S Thom" <shiral@efni.com> > To: <CAN-MANITOBA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 4:58 PM > Subject: Re: [CAN-Manitoba] Advice need re: Vital Statistics > > > > Vicki, Freda and Darlene > > > > Thanks for the reply. It is pretty much as I suspected, the Manitoba > > Government wants its pound of flesh for information that is in the >public > > domain and should be freely accessible. Regardless, the rate of 12$ is > > outlandish. It would be nice if every province could match British > > Columbia. Not only do they have a excellent on-line index but their 30 >year > > limit on deaths is unmatched and they are accesible (FREE) to anyone who > > chooses to look them up. > > > > Anyway, Thank you for taking the time to explain the Manitoba policy. > > > > Alan > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Freda" <fritzzi@shaw.ca> > > To: <CAN-MANITOBA-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 3:30 PM > > Subject: Re: [CAN-Manitoba] Advice need re: Vital Statistics > > > > > > > Hi Alan - I have been able to access copies of Manaitoba records >which > > are > > > on line for various of the peripheral family members. Are you asking >only > > > about those already published or the unpublished? Have you pulled up >the > > > copy of the form that is on their website. It shows quite clearly what > > info > > > they require from you as to relationship, and when I have marked >'cousin' > > or > > > 'uncle' and indicate I do not know other family members, it has never >been > > > questioned. On Death forms where they indicate requiring cause of >death I > > > always put the note 'only if not contravening rules of >confidentiality' > > and > > > I have always received the cause of death. This same form is usable >for > > > current records but if the person is still living there might be a > > problem. > > > It only costs $12.00 to obtain the piece of paper which is a photocopy >of > > > the actual registration, especially when you already have the number. >My > > > dealings with this group has always been very positive. Hope this >helps. > > > Best wishes > > > Freda Stewart > > > Calgary > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "A and S Thom" <shiral@efni.com> > > > To: <CAN-MANITOBA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:54 AM > > > Subject: [CAN-Manitoba] Advice need re: Vital Statistics > > > > > > > > > > I am new to research in Manitoba so I hope SKS can help. Are >Manitoba > > > Archives records, outside the 80, 90 or 100 year limit, accessible to > > > non-family? If so, is there someone on this list who would be willing >to > > do > > > a look-up of a marriage of Christina Jessie SINCLAIR to Wyman Ernest > > WESSALS > > > on 14 June 1917 in Winnipeg (Wpg) Reg # 1917,033325. > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > Alan Thom > > > > Ontario > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== > > > > CAN-MANITOBA-L Mailing List > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~canmb/canmanitoba.htm > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new >Immigration > > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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Hi April - I will add one more horror story to Saskatchewan. The librarian of their supposed capitol city of Regina, the major library of the area, recommended the disbanding of much of their genealogical collection in the Prairie History Room due to financial constraints. Some of this material is irreplacable but I have never heard what they planned to do with it beyond the very generic term 'disbanding'. There is a move under way by Friends of the Library (Regina Public Library) Box 29053 Regina, Saskatchewan S4T 7X3 to petition to stop this action. I hope they make it. Sincerely Freda Stewart Calgary ----- Original Message ----- From: "April Bell" <abellraven@telus.net> To: <CAN-MANITOBA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-Manitoba] Advice need re: Vital Statistics > Yes Delores, I sent an email to the Saskatchewan List a while back , asking > if there were any ideas on how to get Saskatchewan to loosen up a bit. I'd > love to get my grandparents marriage reg from 1910...it would cost me 25 > dollars, but I pretty much know what all the information is. If it were 10 > or 12, I would probably just get it to have it anyway. I agree with Alan > that it would be nice if the provinces could get on the same page...but > that doesn't happen with most things I guess, so we shouldn't hold our > breath. It would be great if the province of Sask would realize that if > they charged a reasonable amount, and provided an index, there would be > many more orders, and they would probably make MORE income. What they also > don't realize is that many people like myself, will travel to the province > to visit old homesteads and cemeteries, if we can get our hands on the > information, to know where to find these places. So if there are any > bureaucrats listening out there....there is a tourism market that hasn't > been realized!!!! > > April > > At 08:06 PM 4/9/2004, you wrote: > >I can only tell you what I know about Saskatchewan. Vital stats is not on > >line, and you have to pay $25 for each document you want. If your out by a > >year they keep your money anyway, even if you do not get a document. > > > >Delores > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "A and S Thom" <shiral@efni.com> > >To: <CAN-MANITOBA-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 7:37 PM > >Subject: Re: [CAN-Manitoba] Advice need re: Vital Statistics > > > > > > > Since I'm the guy that started this I hope that I can put an end to it. I > > > have never had a request for assistance with regard to a look-up in BC > >that > > > was not fulfilled. I have had material mailed to me (free!), and scanned > >and > > > e-mailed. In every case full registrations. Believe me, the volunteers in > >BC > > > have access to an excellent system and they use it to help others. > > > > > > No, Manitoba is not the worst. It at least has an on-line index, something > > > Ontario does not have. However, in Ontario, I can go to the library or the > > > local LDS Centre and look up the indexes and request registration > >microfilms > > > so I can look up the material myself. The local LDS has the microfilms for > > > marriages onsite but indexes only for births and deaths. As far as other > > > provinces are concerned they appear to be worse than Manitoba. > > > > > > My main lament is that all provinces should be on the same page. Offer > > > access to the same level of material. If they want to charge then digitize > > > the images and work out a reasonable fee schedule as in Scotland where you > > > get 30 page credits for about 15$C. > > > > > > Alan > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Lynton Stewart" <medicsarge@sbcglobal.net> > > > To: <CAN-MANITOBA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 8:52 PM > > > Subject: Re: [CAN-Manitoba] Advice need re: Vital Statistics > > > > > > > > > > that's wonder ful if you are in BC. The person that > > > > asked is in Ontario, so a trip to BC would not be all > > > > that easy. > > > > > > > > I live in California, but my family is Canadian. They > > > > lived in all ov eht provinces, and believe me, MB is > > > > not worse than anywhere else. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > Lynton (Bill) Stewart > > > Metis, Scots and English Ancestry, Loyalist and Patriot, USA and > >Canadian. > > > Without them, I wouldn't be here. > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== > > > > Visit the Canada GenWeb Project > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~canwgw/ > > > > See the Resources and Projects > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== > > > Visit the Canada GenWeb Project > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~canwgw/ > > > See the Resources and Projects > > > > > > ============================== > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > >==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== > >Manitoba GenWeb Project > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~canmb/ > > > >============================== > >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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On the Manitoba Vitals site, on Birth records, if you look at the "Detail View", you will see the name of the mother. That helps, a lot. I just wish the births were released before 100 years. Bill S ===== Lynton (Bill) Stewart Metis, Scots and English Ancestry, Loyalist and Patriot, USA and Canadian. Without them, I wouldn't be here. .

If you go to the BC Archives in Victoria, BC., and have the info, you can look up the BMD's, and pay only 50 cents for the photocopy....If you send it to the Archives via credit card online, it costs about $12.00 plus tax.. I wonder if you can do the same thing at the Manitoba Archives, go in and read the film and then get a photocopy cheaper?...

Hi Alan - I agree it would be very nice not to have to pay, but with Manitoba you get a photocopy of the original record and those I have received are always good and readable copies. I have not had dealings with B.C. although I believed that there was a charge there as well beyond the information published. I found I could only go so far with either if I wanted to verify names of parents, spouses on death records, or look for parent names on marriage registrations etc. I don't know what the charge would be, or if one could go directly to Vital Statistics and do your own search. I wonder if they would not charge for the photocopy anyway. Sincerely & Happy Easter Freda Stewart ----- Original Message ----- From: "A and S Thom" <shiral@efni.com> To: <CAN-MANITOBA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-Manitoba] Advice need re: Vital Statistics > Vicki, Freda and Darlene > > Thanks for the reply. It is pretty much as I suspected, the Manitoba > Government wants its pound of flesh for information that is in the public > domain and should be freely accessible. Regardless, the rate of 12$ is > outlandish. It would be nice if every province could match British > Columbia. Not only do they have a excellent on-line index but their 30 year > limit on deaths is unmatched and they are accesible (FREE) to anyone who > chooses to look them up. > > Anyway, Thank you for taking the time to explain the Manitoba policy. > > Alan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Freda" <fritzzi@shaw.ca> > To: <CAN-MANITOBA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 3:30 PM > Subject: Re: [CAN-Manitoba] Advice need re: Vital Statistics > > > > Hi Alan - I have been able to access copies of Manaitoba records which > are > > on line for various of the peripheral family members. Are you asking only > > about those already published or the unpublished? Have you pulled up the > > copy of the form that is on their website. It shows quite clearly what > info > > they require from you as to relationship, and when I have marked 'cousin' > or > > 'uncle' and indicate I do not know other family members, it has never been > > questioned. On Death forms where they indicate requiring cause of death I > > always put the note 'only if not contravening rules of confidentiality' > and > > I have always received the cause of death. This same form is usable for > > current records but if the person is still living there might be a > problem. > > It only costs $12.00 to obtain the piece of paper which is a photocopy of > > the actual registration, especially when you already have the number. My > > dealings with this group has always been very positive. Hope this helps. > > Best wishes > > Freda Stewart > > Calgary > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "A and S Thom" <shiral@efni.com> > > To: <CAN-MANITOBA-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:54 AM > > Subject: [CAN-Manitoba] Advice need re: Vital Statistics > > > > > > > I am new to research in Manitoba so I hope SKS can help. Are Manitoba > > Archives records, outside the 80, 90 or 100 year limit, accessible to > > non-family? If so, is there someone on this list who would be willing to > do > > a look-up of a marriage of Christina Jessie SINCLAIR to Wyman Ernest > WESSALS > > on 14 June 1917 in Winnipeg (Wpg) Reg # 1917,033325. > > > > > > Thank you, > > > Alan Thom > > > Ontario > > > > > > > > > ==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== > > > CAN-MANITOBA-L Mailing List > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~canmb/canmanitoba.htm > > > > > > ============================== > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== > > CAN-MANITOBA-L Mailing List > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~canmb/canmanitoba.htm > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== > Visit the Canada GenWeb Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~canwgw/ > See the Resources and Projects > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Since I'm the guy that started this I hope that I can put an end to it. I have never had a request for assistance with regard to a look-up in BC that was not fulfilled. I have had material mailed to me (free!), and scanned and e-mailed. In every case full registrations. Believe me, the volunteers in BC have access to an excellent system and they use it to help others. No, Manitoba is not the worst. It at least has an on-line index, something Ontario does not have. However, in Ontario, I can go to the library or the local LDS Centre and look up the indexes and request registration microfilms so I can look up the material myself. The local LDS has the microfilms for marriages onsite but indexes only for births and deaths. As far as other provinces are concerned they appear to be worse than Manitoba. My main lament is that all provinces should be on the same page. Offer access to the same level of material. If they want to charge then digitize the images and work out a reasonable fee schedule as in Scotland where you get 30 page credits for about 15$C. Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynton Stewart" <medicsarge@sbcglobal.net> To: <CAN-MANITOBA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-Manitoba] Advice need re: Vital Statistics > that's wonder ful if you are in BC. The person that > asked is in Ontario, so a trip to BC would not be all > that easy. > > I live in California, but my family is Canadian. They > lived in all ov eht provinces, and believe me, MB is > not worse than anywhere else. > > > > ===== > Lynton (Bill) Stewart Metis, Scots and English Ancestry, Loyalist and Patriot, USA and Canadian. Without them, I wouldn't be here. > . > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== > Visit the Canada GenWeb Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~canwgw/ > See the Resources and Projects > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

I have access to a plethora of Canadian genealogy right here in Vancouver.... We are about to get the holdings of the MB Archives online...This will be wonderful for our gen research...lets see what they provide...Our National Archives have tons of stuff as well. Most Major University Libraries across Canada have the Henderson's Directories hidden away in the PEEL COLLECTION on m/f. This includes the street Directories for Winnipeg and other major Canadian Prairie Cities 18?? to 1953. Re: Births, Marriages & Deaths for BC & ON "Birth, marriage and death records can provide a wealth of information for the genealogist. Varying amounts of information about parents, occupation, birthplace, place of residence etc. are available depending on the type of record. Death records are often the most comprehensive. Vital statistics records are a provincial responsibility, and to date only two provinces (B.C. and Ontario) have put their vital records into the public domain. The History & Government Division holds a complete set of available British Columbia registrations, and a set of indexes to the Ontario registrations. For the other provinces you must contact the specific provincial Vital Statistics office. Ask at the Librarians' Desk for a list. The following Vital Statistics microfilms are available in the the History & Government Division: British Columbia: All Birth, Marriage and Death Registrations that have been released by the B.C. Vital Statistics Agency are now available. The following years have been released: Births: 1872 - 1902 Marriages: 1872 - 1927 Deaths: 1872 - 1982 Updates are received on an annual basis. The Vital Events Index can be used to find the appropriate BC Archives microfilm reel number and the registration number of the record that you want. For detailed instructions about using the index and locating the records, see our guide to Finding B.C. Civil Registration Records. Ontario: The Vancouver Public Library holds birth, marriage and death indexes to vital records held by the Archives of Ontario. Indexes to Ontario vital events are available for the following years Births, stillbirths & delayed registrations: 1869 - 1906 Marriages & delayed registrations: 1873 - 1921 Deaths & delayed registrations: 1869 - 1931 Using the information provided by the above indexes, you can request the microfilm containing the actual record from the Archives of Ontario. For more information about this service, please see our Services & Facilities for Genealogists page." cheers ~viv~ Vancouver ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynton Stewart" <medicsarge@sbcglobal.net> To: <CAN-MANITOBA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-Manitoba] Advice need re: Vital Statistics > But BC also charges for the actual certificates, just > as Manitoba does. > > You can find almost as much information on the > Manitoba site as you can opn the BC site. It is just > the time frames that are different. > > > ===== > Lynton (Bill) Stewart Metis, Scots and English Ancestry, Loyalist and Patriot, USA and Canadian. Without them, I wouldn't be here. > . > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== > Free Webspace at RootsWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/press/FPhistory.html > Create your Genealogy Website! > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.656 / Virus Database: 421 - Release Date: 4/9/04

I can only tell you what I know about Saskatchewan. Vital stats is not on line, and you have to pay $25 for each document you want. If your out by a year they keep your money anyway, even if you do not get a document. Delores ----- Original Message ----- From: "A and S Thom" <shiral@efni.com> To: <CAN-MANITOBA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-Manitoba] Advice need re: Vital Statistics > Since I'm the guy that started this I hope that I can put an end to it. I > have never had a request for assistance with regard to a look-up in BC that > was not fulfilled. I have had material mailed to me (free!), and scanned and > e-mailed. In every case full registrations. Believe me, the volunteers in BC > have access to an excellent system and they use it to help others. > > No, Manitoba is not the worst. It at least has an on-line index, something > Ontario does not have. However, in Ontario, I can go to the library or the > local LDS Centre and look up the indexes and request registration microfilms > so I can look up the material myself. The local LDS has the microfilms for > marriages onsite but indexes only for births and deaths. As far as other > provinces are concerned they appear to be worse than Manitoba. > > My main lament is that all provinces should be on the same page. Offer > access to the same level of material. If they want to charge then digitize > the images and work out a reasonable fee schedule as in Scotland where you > get 30 page credits for about 15$C. > > Alan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lynton Stewart" <medicsarge@sbcglobal.net> > To: <CAN-MANITOBA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 8:52 PM > Subject: Re: [CAN-Manitoba] Advice need re: Vital Statistics > > > > that's wonder ful if you are in BC. The person that > > asked is in Ontario, so a trip to BC would not be all > > that easy. > > > > I live in California, but my family is Canadian. They > > lived in all ov eht provinces, and believe me, MB is > > not worse than anywhere else. > > > > > > > > ===== > > Lynton (Bill) Stewart > Metis, Scots and English Ancestry, Loyalist and Patriot, USA and Canadian. > Without them, I wouldn't be here. > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== > > Visit the Canada GenWeb Project > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~canwgw/ > > See the Resources and Projects > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== > Visit the Canada GenWeb Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~canwgw/ > See the Resources and Projects > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Yes Delores, I sent an email to the Saskatchewan List a while back , asking if there were any ideas on how to get Saskatchewan to loosen up a bit. I'd love to get my grandparents marriage reg from 1910...it would cost me 25 dollars, but I pretty much know what all the information is. If it were 10 or 12, I would probably just get it to have it anyway. I agree with Alan that it would be nice if the provinces could get on the same page...but that doesn't happen with most things I guess, so we shouldn't hold our breath. It would be great if the province of Sask would realize that if they charged a reasonable amount, and provided an index, there would be many more orders, and they would probably make MORE income. What they also don't realize is that many people like myself, will travel to the province to visit old homesteads and cemeteries, if we can get our hands on the information, to know where to find these places. So if there are any bureaucrats listening out there....there is a tourism market that hasn't been realized!!!! April At 08:06 PM 4/9/2004, you wrote: >I can only tell you what I know about Saskatchewan. Vital stats is not on >line, and you have to pay $25 for each document you want. If your out by a >year they keep your money anyway, even if you do not get a document. > >Delores >----- Original Message ----- >From: "A and S Thom" <shiral@efni.com> >To: <CAN-MANITOBA-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 7:37 PM >Subject: Re: [CAN-Manitoba] Advice need re: Vital Statistics > > > > Since I'm the guy that started this I hope that I can put an end to it. I > > have never had a request for assistance with regard to a look-up in BC >that > > was not fulfilled. I have had material mailed to me (free!), and scanned >and > > e-mailed. In every case full registrations. Believe me, the volunteers in >BC > > have access to an excellent system and they use it to help others. > > > > No, Manitoba is not the worst. It at least has an on-line index, something > > Ontario does not have. However, in Ontario, I can go to the library or the > > local LDS Centre and look up the indexes and request registration >microfilms > > so I can look up the material myself. The local LDS has the microfilms for > > marriages onsite but indexes only for births and deaths. As far as other > > provinces are concerned they appear to be worse than Manitoba. > > > > My main lament is that all provinces should be on the same page. Offer > > access to the same level of material. If they want to charge then digitize > > the images and work out a reasonable fee schedule as in Scotland where you > > get 30 page credits for about 15$C. > > > > Alan > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Lynton Stewart" <medicsarge@sbcglobal.net> > > To: <CAN-MANITOBA-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 8:52 PM > > Subject: Re: [CAN-Manitoba] Advice need re: Vital Statistics > > > > > > > that's wonder ful if you are in BC. The person that > > > asked is in Ontario, so a trip to BC would not be all > > > that easy. > > > > > > I live in California, but my family is Canadian. They > > > lived in all ov eht provinces, and believe me, MB is > > > not worse than anywhere else. > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > Lynton (Bill) Stewart > > Metis, Scots and English Ancestry, Loyalist and Patriot, USA and >Canadian. > > Without them, I wouldn't be here. > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== > > > Visit the Canada GenWeb Project > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~canwgw/ > > > See the Resources and Projects > > > > > > ============================== > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== > > Visit the Canada GenWeb Project > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~canwgw/ > > See the Resources and Projects > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > >==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== >Manitoba GenWeb Project >http://www.rootsweb.com/~canmb/ > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Vicki, Freda and Darlene Thanks for the reply. It is pretty much as I suspected, the Manitoba Government wants its pound of flesh for information that is in the public domain and should be freely accessible. Regardless, the rate of 12$ is outlandish. It would be nice if every province could match British Columbia. Not only do they have a excellent on-line index but their 30 year limit on deaths is unmatched and they are accesible (FREE) to anyone who chooses to look them up. Anyway, Thank you for taking the time to explain the Manitoba policy. Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Freda" <fritzzi@shaw.ca> To: <CAN-MANITOBA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 3:30 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-Manitoba] Advice need re: Vital Statistics > Hi Alan - I have been able to access copies of Manaitoba records which are > on line for various of the peripheral family members. Are you asking only > about those already published or the unpublished? Have you pulled up the > copy of the form that is on their website. It shows quite clearly what info > they require from you as to relationship, and when I have marked 'cousin' or > 'uncle' and indicate I do not know other family members, it has never been > questioned. On Death forms where they indicate requiring cause of death I > always put the note 'only if not contravening rules of confidentiality' and > I have always received the cause of death. This same form is usable for > current records but if the person is still living there might be a problem. > It only costs $12.00 to obtain the piece of paper which is a photocopy of > the actual registration, especially when you already have the number. My > dealings with this group has always been very positive. Hope this helps. > Best wishes > Freda Stewart > Calgary > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "A and S Thom" <shiral@efni.com> > To: <CAN-MANITOBA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:54 AM > Subject: [CAN-Manitoba] Advice need re: Vital Statistics > > > > I am new to research in Manitoba so I hope SKS can help. Are Manitoba > Archives records, outside the 80, 90 or 100 year limit, accessible to > non-family? If so, is there someone on this list who would be willing to do > a look-up of a marriage of Christina Jessie SINCLAIR to Wyman Ernest WESSALS > on 14 June 1917 in Winnipeg (Wpg) Reg # 1917,033325. > > > > Thank you, > > Alan Thom > > Ontario > > > > > > ==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== > > CAN-MANITOBA-L Mailing List > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~canmb/canmanitoba.htm > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== > CAN-MANITOBA-L Mailing List > http://www.rootsweb.com/~canmb/canmanitoba.htm > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

that's wonder ful if you are in BC. The person that asked is in Ontario, so a trip to BC would not be all that easy. I live in California, but my family is Canadian. They lived in all ov eht provinces, and believe me, MB is not worse than anywhere else. ===== Lynton (Bill) Stewart Metis, Scots and English Ancestry, Loyalist and Patriot, USA and Canadian. Without them, I wouldn't be here. .

That is not quite correct. While you can order "certificates" from BC for a lot of money, the actual long registration which has the full information can be copied for 50 cents. One just needs access to various genealogical libraries in BC where these are all on micorfilm. Many listers have success in requesting copies on the BC List for a very small fee (copying and postage) or for FREE. You can also search Textual items on line. April in BC At 04:04 PM 4/9/2004, you wrote: >But BC also charges for the actual certificates, just >as Manitoba does. > >You can find almost as much information on the >Manitoba site as you can opn the BC site. It is just >the time frames that are different. > > >===== >Lynton (Bill) >Stewart Metis, >Scots and English Ancestry, Loyalist and Patriot, USA and >Canadian. Without them, I wouldn't be >here. >. > > > > > > > > > > >==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== >Free Webspace at RootsWeb >http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/press/FPhistory.html >Create your Genealogy Website! > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

But BC also charges for the actual certificates, just as Manitoba does. You can find almost as much information on the Manitoba site as you can opn the BC site. It is just the time frames that are different. ===== Lynton (Bill) Stewart Metis, Scots and English Ancestry, Loyalist and Patriot, USA and Canadian. Without them, I wouldn't be here. .

Hi Alan - I have been able to access copies of Manaitoba records which are on line for various of the peripheral family members. Are you asking only about those already published or the unpublished? Have you pulled up the copy of the form that is on their website. It shows quite clearly what info they require from you as to relationship, and when I have marked 'cousin' or 'uncle' and indicate I do not know other family members, it has never been questioned. On Death forms where they indicate requiring cause of death I always put the note 'only if not contravening rules of confidentiality' and I have always received the cause of death. This same form is usable for current records but if the person is still living there might be a problem. It only costs $12.00 to obtain the piece of paper which is a photocopy of the actual registration, especially when you already have the number. My dealings with this group has always been very positive. Hope this helps. Best wishes Freda Stewart Calgary ----- Original Message ----- From: "A and S Thom" <shiral@efni.com> To: <CAN-MANITOBA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:54 AM Subject: [CAN-Manitoba] Advice need re: Vital Statistics > I am new to research in Manitoba so I hope SKS can help. Are Manitoba Archives records, outside the 80, 90 or 100 year limit, accessible to non-family? If so, is there someone on this list who would be willing to do a look-up of a marriage of Christina Jessie SINCLAIR to Wyman Ernest WESSALS on 14 June 1917 in Winnipeg (Wpg) Reg # 1917,033325. > > Thank you, > Alan Thom > Ontario > > > ==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== > CAN-MANITOBA-L Mailing List > http://www.rootsweb.com/~canmb/canmanitoba.htm > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

I am new to research in Manitoba so I hope SKS can help. Are Manitoba Archives records, outside the 80, 90 or 100 year limit, accessible to non-family? If so, is there someone on this list who would be willing to do a look-up of a marriage of Christina Jessie SINCLAIR to Wyman Ernest WESSALS on 14 June 1917 in Winnipeg (Wpg) Reg # 1917,033325. Thank you, Alan Thom Ontario

Darlene, Thank you for the Pedi census references. We now have the family back to Russia, to the Volynian district in Ukraine. Ken Shultz ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

Hello all... does anyone have transcripts for Reston Cemetery and would you be willing to do look-ups? Thanks Norm in Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen S" <karenuffda@hotmail.com> To: <CAN-MANITOBA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 5:09 PM Subject: RE: [CAN-Manitoba] Cameron John > Hello Alan, > You can go to the Winnipeg Library web site at wpl.winnipeg.ca and click on > Inside Library Services and then Ask a Laibrarian. They will look up the > person for you and you will notice they will search 10 years of the > directories. > Hope this helps, > Karen > > > >From: "Alan Campbell" <campbeal@sympatico.ca> > >Reply-To: CAN-MANITOBA-L@rootsweb.com > >To: CAN-MANITOBA-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: [CAN-Manitoba] Cameron John > >Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 16:29:01 -0400 > > > >Hi listers; > >Does anyone have easy access to a 1901 city directory for Winnipeg? I am > >looking for a John Cameron, wife Mary Ellen, child of working age, John > >Pratt Alexander Cameron > >Thanks > >Alan > > > > > >==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== > >Free Webspace at RootsWeb > >http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/press/FPhistory.html > >Create your Genealogy Website! > > > >============================== > >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines > > > ==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== > Manitoba Regions - Volunteer Opportunities > http://www.rootsweb.com/~canmb/regions.htm > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Hello, I have the transcript for Reston Cemetery. Who are you looking for? Mary Swank, Riverside, California Norman Fraser wrote: >Hello all... does anyone have transcripts for Reston Cemetery and would you >be willing to do look-ups? > >Thanks > >Norm in Ottawa > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Karen S" <karenuffda@hotmail.com> >To: <CAN-MANITOBA-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 5:09 PM >Subject: RE: [CAN-Manitoba] Cameron John > > > > >>Hello Alan, >>You can go to the Winnipeg Library web site at wpl.winnipeg.ca and click >> >> >on > > >>Inside Library Services and then Ask a Laibrarian. They will look up the >>person for you and you will notice they will search 10 years of the >>directories. >>Hope this helps, >>Karen >> >> >> >> >>>From: "Alan Campbell" <campbeal@sympatico.ca> >>>Reply-To: CAN-MANITOBA-L@rootsweb.com >>>To: CAN-MANITOBA-L@rootsweb.com >>>Subject: [CAN-Manitoba] Cameron John >>>Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 16:29:01 -0400 >>> >>>Hi listers; >>>Does anyone have easy access to a 1901 city directory for Winnipeg? I am >>>looking for a John Cameron, wife Mary Ellen, child of working age, John >>>Pratt Alexander Cameron >>>Thanks >>>Alan >>> >>> >>>==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== >>>Free Webspace at RootsWeb >>>http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/press/FPhistory.html >>>Create your Genealogy Website! >>> >>>============================== >>>Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >>>Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >>>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >>> >>> >>> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Add photos to your e-mail with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* >> >> >> >http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines > > >>==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== >>Manitoba Regions - Volunteer Opportunities >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~canmb/regions.htm >> >>============================== >>Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >>Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >> >> >> >> > > > >==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== >Visit the Canada GenWeb Project >http://www.rootsweb.com/~canwgw/ >See the Resources and Projects > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > >

Ken, Good for you!! Keep going. Warmest regards Darlene ----- Original Message ----- From: <krs51.1@juno.com> To: <CAN-MANITOBA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 6:06 PM Subject: [CAN-Manitoba] Re: Pedi at Dominion City in V04 #43 > > Darlene, Thank you for the Pedi census references. We now have the family back to Russia, to the Volynian district in Ukraine. Ken Shultz > > ________________________________________________________________ > The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! > > > ==== CAN-MANITOBA Mailing List ==== > Free Webspace at RootsWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/press/FPhistory.html > Create your Genealogy Website! > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Thanks Karen! Alan