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    1. [CAN-BC] Re: Alternative means of finding BMDs
    2. Chuck Bishop
    3. Hello Peter. 20 August 2018 you wrote: "While trying to find a marriage which, I imagine, would have taken place in BC in 1970, I found the search page of the Royal BC Museum would only come forward in time as 1942. My question is, is there another way of finding said marriage?" Search Rootsweb's earlier BC lists for local newspaper reports [BMDs] transcribed by BC List members and posted to the list. Also use the internet to find Family History and Genealogy societies for villages, towns, cities and British Columbia's geographical regions such as Vancouver Island, North Peace [River], Cariboo, Lower Mainland [outside Vancouver], Victoria [Capital City area]. The venerable Victoria Times Colonist covered our earliest history. Nowadays, online records /archives could yield news of coastal BC families. In fact the provincial archives are worth checking [local histories, etc.] Don't overlook death records [Royal BC Museum genealogy searches]. In-laws and even children may be found. Try Newspapers in general. British Columbia Genealogical Society has a great page here: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.bcgs.ca_-3Fpage-5Fid-3D541-23.W3yqvCjw721&d=DwIFAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=pCVRodarSbxGvKMrDPcpine3z6jlxqv1qaz1BM4NLm7wa-Wk9tDItI96uGBhZaXo&m=E0FOR8xLtSk-DNUgakLcWd4AB-rEFrFoOFtSuXy1qlM&s=G_rEPHyYxcQNd4jc5lR9P9M5fux__d0Tib6aUxh25-4&e= . Again to newspapers: If there is evidence the couple stayed here in BC, look for 25th wedding anniversary announcements. It may help to post the happy couple's names and clues to their arrival in BC / occupations so list members can do some sleuthing for you. All the best, Frances Bishop

    08/21/2018 06:36:29
    1. [CAN-BC] Re: Alternative means of finding BMDs
    2. DADIG
    3. The genealogical society’s links to newspapers is out-of-date: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.sookenewsmirror.com_obituaries_&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=pCVRodarSbxGvKMrDPcpine3z6jlxqv1qaz1BM4NLm7wa-Wk9tDItI96uGBhZaXo&m=XhzvSHtBJZzwQB3gCp9xZP0VT085m6kq-uLGZdi7AAs&s=GPca-E59egghyFydlLGFjGA2LFd7HnjMMv_OG9atZ3Q&e= CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The above message contains confidential information intended for a specified individual and purpose. The information is private and protected by law. Any copying or disclosure of this transmission by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message and any attachments from your system. Thank you. From: Chuck Bishop Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 5:36 PM To: can-british-columbia@rootsweb.com Cc: Frances Bishop Subject: [CAN-BC] Re: Alternative means of finding BMDs Hello Peter. 20 August 2018 you wrote: "While trying to find a marriage which, I imagine, would have taken place in BC in 1970, I found the search page of the Royal BC Museum would only come forward in time as 1942. My question is, is there another way of finding said marriage?" Search Rootsweb's earlier BC lists for local newspaper reports [BMDs] transcribed by BC List members and posted to the list. Also use the internet to find Family History and Genealogy societies for villages, towns, cities and British Columbia's geographical regions such as Vancouver Island, North Peace [River], Cariboo, Lower Mainland [outside Vancouver], Victoria [Capital City area]. The venerable Victoria Times Colonist covered our earliest history. Nowadays, online records /archives could yield news of coastal BC families. In fact the provincial archives are worth checking [local histories, etc.] Don't overlook death records [Royal BC Museum genealogy searches]. In-laws and even children may be found. Try Newspapers in general. British Columbia Genealogical Society has a great page here: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.bcgs.ca_-3Fpage-5Fid-3D541-23.W3yqvCjw721&d=DwIFAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=pCVRodarSbxGvKMrDPcpine3z6jlxqv1qaz1BM4NLm7wa-Wk9tDItI96uGBhZaXo&m=E0FOR8xLtSk-DNUgakLcWd4AB-rEFrFoOFtSuXy1qlM&s=G_rEPHyYxcQNd4jc5lR9P9M5fux__d0Tib6aUxh25-4&e= . Again to newspapers: If there is evidence the couple stayed here in BC, look for 25th wedding anniversary announcements. It may help to post the happy couple's names and clues to their arrival in BC / occupations so list members can do some sleuthing for you. All the best, Frances Bishop _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=pCVRodarSbxGvKMrDPcpine3z6jlxqv1qaz1BM4NLm7wa-Wk9tDItI96uGBhZaXo&m=XhzvSHtBJZzwQB3gCp9xZP0VT085m6kq-uLGZdi7AAs&s=DkoBO0aFkbrDkP9zhtBd3s3zVloEPUWhWpOD56Y02Ok&e= Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/can-british-columbia Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=pCVRodarSbxGvKMrDPcpine3z6jlxqv1qaz1BM4NLm7wa-Wk9tDItI96uGBhZaXo&m=XhzvSHtBJZzwQB3gCp9xZP0VT085m6kq-uLGZdi7AAs&s=dV0bz-013d1dSXS7OHTbBC-ztxG8rFuosj9TNmyg4Yg&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=pCVRodarSbxGvKMrDPcpine3z6jlxqv1qaz1BM4NLm7wa-Wk9tDItI96uGBhZaXo&m=XhzvSHtBJZzwQB3gCp9xZP0VT085m6kq-uLGZdi7AAs&s=FU3gx-hK5LZLtCrIiaJC-i9l5r4-t6emI6Vvcfapr3E&e= Rootsweb Blog: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__rootsweb.blog&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=pCVRodarSbxGvKMrDPcpine3z6jlxqv1qaz1BM4NLm7wa-Wk9tDItI96uGBhZaXo&m=XhzvSHtBJZzwQB3gCp9xZP0VT085m6kq-uLGZdi7AAs&s=dXLG3caY07h4GP2mMrPfV-b0Wru8y3Dz9W6SKS8hYoc&e= RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.avg.com&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=pCVRodarSbxGvKMrDPcpine3z6jlxqv1qaz1BM4NLm7wa-Wk9tDItI96uGBhZaXo&m=XhzvSHtBJZzwQB3gCp9xZP0VT085m6kq-uLGZdi7AAs&s=2_dWREr1wKtN56HbIC3RFpfsOS8_g8i9wdYqG2O4v7c&e=

    08/21/2018 07:05:34
    1. [CAN-BC] Re: - Alternative means of finding BMDs
    2. Peter Gainsborough
    3. Hello Frances, Thank you very much for the advice and links. You've certainly given me some things to investigate. Incidentally, if you come across any instances of the MELLOWS surname, I'd be very interested to know of them. Peter Gainsborough

    08/22/2018 06:54:34
    1. [CAN-BC] Re: - Alternative means of finding BMDs
    2. Stella Stanger
    3. Hi Searched Provincial Archive of BC Vital Events Index - Deaths become Public record in the 21st year after the event. Anna MELLOS 81 - August 14 1943 - Penny BC Thomas Francis MELLOWS 85 - October 3 1966 -marital Status single - Informant Social Services -They usually do not provide much informqtion on the Registration of death - although they will have the persons files. - Burial at Mountain View Cemetery 39th and Fraser Street - Vancouver BC Leslie Karen Mellows age 21 - dcd November 25 1981 New Westminster BC. parents Oscar MELLOWS born USA - Karen JOHNStON born USA. Victor MELLOWS 96 July 26 1994 at Prince George BC - born in Norway. Informant Arne MELLOWS - relationship son. Prince George BC OBITUARIES may have been published. Some may appear in Vancouver Sun/ Province newspapers - Vancouver Public Library - main Branch - Georgia Street - Vancouver holds newspapers in their collection 5th floor. Search: Online White pages directory 411.ca - for the MELLOW/S - and other surname/s ________________________________ From: Peter Gainsborough via CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA <can-british-columbia@rootsweb.com> Sent: August 22, 2018 5:54 AM To: can-british-columbia@rootsweb.com Cc: Peter Gainsborough Subject: [CAN-BC] Re: - Alternative means of finding BMDs Hello Frances, Thank you very much for the advice and links. You've certainly given me some things to investigate. Incidentally, if you come across any instances of the MELLOWS surname, I'd be very interested to know of them. Peter Gainsborough _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIFAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=pCVRodarSbxGvKMrDPcpine3z6jlxqv1qaz1BM4NLm7wa-Wk9tDItI96uGBhZaXo&m=jQXfksbOEtqKMQpTlgzlIW26E9c_BH3mw0L9lUAp5MU&s=5gVp_S60Wil8chzljW5CYlHzNkUS38E42iuUnoaZ7ZM&e= Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/can-british-columbia Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIFAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=pCVRodarSbxGvKMrDPcpine3z6jlxqv1qaz1BM4NLm7wa-Wk9tDItI96uGBhZaXo&m=jQXfksbOEtqKMQpTlgzlIW26E9c_BH3mw0L9lUAp5MU&s=H2xaMffYdEjrCX7aBKf3kGkOddzdECBKGwhzmeNX8FE&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIFAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=pCVRodarSbxGvKMrDPcpine3z6jlxqv1qaz1BM4NLm7wa-Wk9tDItI96uGBhZaXo&m=jQXfksbOEtqKMQpTlgzlIW26E9c_BH3mw0L9lUAp5MU&s=sRLslxeD73GRDDR38JXu1qukIC6gXLOaLZx52PloQpk&e= Rootsweb Blog: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__rootsweb.blog&d=DwIFAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=pCVRodarSbxGvKMrDPcpine3z6jlxqv1qaz1BM4NLm7wa-Wk9tDItI96uGBhZaXo&m=jQXfksbOEtqKMQpTlgzlIW26E9c_BH3mw0L9lUAp5MU&s=C8gQEDtngq4Ab7J1hyCfE8iys7YBUkuOHB6_zGQxez0&e= RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    08/22/2018 11:20:17
    1. [CAN-BC] Re: - Alternative means of finding BMDs
    2. Peter Gainsborough
    3. Hello All, A huge 'thank you' to Frances Bishop, Stella Stanger, Pam Thomson, Dennice Goudie, Amy Newman, Roberta Hluska, Stella Stanger and Diane Rogers - I hope I haven't missed anyone! - for their amazing input. I shall certainly be following up their many suggestions. The MELLOWS family in BC are NOT connected to my MELLOWS family but form part of my loose one-name study of the surname. Having said that, the MELLOWS in Coldstream, BC is a first cousin. My research, so far, has unearthed the following: On 10 April, 1912, Anne Karine nee? VRAALSEN - born 27 July, 1862 somewhere in Norway - passed through US Immigration (port unknown) with her son Victor (born 25 June, 1898 at Risor, Norway). Anne also had an elder son, John born 19 December, 1889 at Risor, Norway. On the 1920 (living in South Dakota) 1930 (living in Montana) and 1940 (living in Oregon) US Censuses, John (now MELLOWS) stated that he emigrated from Norway to the US in 1907 and was Naturalised in 1918 - I cannot find records of either event. John shows as single on the 1920 US Census, but divorced on the 1930 Census. I cannot find a marriage for him, or children - if there were any. After the 1940 Census, John falls off the planet. Anne and Victor both took American citizenship on 26 April, 1922 at Belle Fourche, South Dakota, USA with the surname of MELLOWS. When Anne and Victor applied for passports in 1923, while living at Belle Fourche, South Dakota, Victor gave his Father's name as Ole TORGENSEN. This begs the question as to why they chose to Anglicise their name to MELLOWS? Victor married Karen nee JOHANSEN c.1925/1926 - possibly in Wyoming. Karen was born c.1899 somewhere in Scandinavia and emigrated from Gothenburg, Sweden, passing through Ellis Island on 12 August, 1924. Victor and Karen had three children, Arne MELLOWS (born c.1926 at Casper, Wyoming) Ivar MELLOWS (born c.1927 at Basin, Wyoming) and Oscar MELLOWS (born c.1929 at Malta, Wyoming). Sometime after the birth of their third child, Victor and Karen, settled in BC. Victor died in 1994 at Prince George, and is buried at Penny. I cannot find a record of the passing of Karen. As far as I am aware Victor and Karen's three children are still alive (Arne and Oscar in BC and Ivar location unknown)- at least one of them has children and grandchildren of their own - and I thought it might appear to be a bit strange if I were to contact them as I am not a member of their family. Has anyone any thoughts on this? My research does come further forward in time, but I've not included it for fear of upsetting living people. I've proof-read this email about half a dozen times, I hope I've got everything right! If anyone is interested, I can send them a chart showing what I have compiled of the family. Thank you for reading this and I hope it hasn't scrambled your brain or put you in a coma. Peter Gainsborough - in Croydon, Surrey, England

    08/23/2018 03:42:50
    1. [CAN-BC] Re: - Alternative means of finding BMDs
    2. Pam Thomson
    3. Hi Peter, I’m the admin for this mailing list and you seem to have awakened it from hibernation. :-) Just a reminder to everyone that your message must be fewer than 15KB or it can get stuck in the “refer to owner” mailbox. I think this can happen when the text is too fancy and /or has too many graphics. Also now if you click reply, it will go to the list. If you choose reply all, it will also go to the sender of that message. Pam Pam Fairweather Thomson pthomson@dccnet.com > On Aug 22, 2018, at 05:54, Peter Gainsborough via CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA <can-british-columbia@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hello Frances, > > Thank you very much for the advice and links. > > You've certainly given me some things to investigate. > > Incidentally, if you come across any instances of the > MELLOWS surname, I'd be very interested to know of them. > > > Peter Gainsborough > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=pCVRodarSbxGvKMrDPcpine3z6jlxqv1qaz1BM4NLm7wa-Wk9tDItI96uGBhZaXo&m=rB8EUraymkl0dOekrJqIwvfWTjuvXfWZ-obG8m8ksvk&s=DLFYdEk_YeIBvS2fqSMl_0F1PlcoU9hLkNrf4vZxRg0&e= > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/can-british-columbia > Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=pCVRodarSbxGvKMrDPcpine3z6jlxqv1qaz1BM4NLm7wa-Wk9tDItI96uGBhZaXo&m=rB8EUraymkl0dOekrJqIwvfWTjuvXfWZ-obG8m8ksvk&s=ISNfHVEvNA2kcte2LFRt3saY6VDapFCvk_HLqRCTjd0&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=pCVRodarSbxGvKMrDPcpine3z6jlxqv1qaz1BM4NLm7wa-Wk9tDItI96uGBhZaXo&m=rB8EUraymkl0dOekrJqIwvfWTjuvXfWZ-obG8m8ksvk&s=zAsDQbUDsICfJ5hHJj9LjzlYfsP864QBS2Zyk9o5eKw&e= > Rootsweb Blog: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__rootsweb.blog&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=pCVRodarSbxGvKMrDPcpine3z6jlxqv1qaz1BM4NLm7wa-Wk9tDItI96uGBhZaXo&m=rB8EUraymkl0dOekrJqIwvfWTjuvXfWZ-obG8m8ksvk&s=6hqDSB0m9v9K0Il6xsAsgapT-yVtixJS4ismO7iSQPI&e= > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    08/22/2018 04:41:58
    1. [CAN-BC] Re: - Alternative means of finding BMDs
    2. Pam Thomson
    3. And this is a good example- I accidentally included all the text at the bottom and my own message bounced! Pam Fairweather Thomson Sechelt, BC, Canada pthomson@dccnet.com > On Aug 22, 2018, at 15:41, Pam Thomson <pthomson@dccnet.com> wrote: > > Hi Peter, > I’m the admin for this mailing list and you seem to have awakened it from hibernation. :-) > Just a reminder to everyone that your message must be fewer than 15KB or it can get stuck in the “refer to owner” mailbox. I think this can happen when the text is too fancy and /or has too many graphics. > Also now if you click reply, it will go to the list. If you choose reply all, it will also go to the sender of that message. > Pam > > > > Pam Fairweather Thomson > pthomson@dccnet.com > >> On Aug 22, 2018, at 05:54, Peter Gainsborough via CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA <can-british-columbia@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >> Hello Frances, >> >> Thank you very much for the advice and links. >> >> You've certainly given me some things to investigate. >> >> Incidentally, if you come across any instances of the >> ______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http- <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http->

    08/22/2018 04:53:43
    1. [CAN-BC] Re: - Alternative means of finding BMDs
    2. M. Diane Rogers
    3. If the original question was about finding information on a 1970s marriage in BC. One of the best places I have found that info for recent events is on Facebook. Spouses, relatives, friends all post anniversary (or even occasionally divorce) messages. People do sometimes post anniversary messages in newspapers too. For this, the surnames need to be a bit better than my own though. Good luck with your study, Peter. (And thank you to Dennice for the heads up about the Sooke newspaper link. I look after that BCGS newspaper page. I will fix that tonight.) Diane M. Diane Rogers Saggers One-Name Study: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__saggers.one-2Dname.net_&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=pCVRodarSbxGvKMrDPcpine3z6jlxqv1qaz1BM4NLm7wa-Wk9tDItI96uGBhZaXo&m=hx6V8S0QePYLag4Uw8qsQw3H6SJP6CiXOeL9ZMMd-PY&s=oxE-g_I1JDO--gTT7Fszr92tWJ6r1UFuXSjaRrZ1ZxA&e=

    08/22/2018 05:38:20