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    1. [CAN-BC] BC pictures, the next page
    2. Jim Bundy
    3. Hi, This page I just scanned has a picture of Mrs Hanson and her son Christopher at Sheep Creek. The Hanson's ran the camp laundry and the bathhouse. I've seen their laundry equipment at the museum at Salmo. Another has my grandfather standing in the doorway of their cabin at Sheep Creek. The other 3 has 2 young women who must have been friends of Catherine Purcell, my grandmother. I have no idea who they were however. If you'd like to see the scans, I'm happy to share them. Jim Bundy

    01/05/2007 02:26:29
    1. [CAN-BC] RE- CAMP VERNON
    2. marylou
    3. Greetings- there is a wonderful book on Camp Vernon- "Camp Vernon- a Century of Canadian Military History- by Hugh Rayment and Patrick Sherlock... also a forward by Pierre Berton. this book is probably the best of the best on the history of Camp Vernon.. The history takes you right from the beginning, stories and loads of pictures etc. Happy reading Mary

    01/04/2007 01:33:17
    1. [CAN-BC] More BC photos
    2. Jim Bundy
    3. Hi, I've scanned another page in an album of ours. This page has 2 photos taken at Bowen Island, with boats. Another one was taken at Stanley Park, with a stone lined pond and an island in the middle, with swans. I remember that place. There's also an old photo of Kootenay Lake. If you'd like to see any, just ask. Jim Bundy

    01/04/2007 03:30:16
    1. [CAN-BC] More BC photos
    2. Jim Bundy
    3. Hi, I've scanned another page in an album of ours. This page has 2 photos taken at Bowen Island, with boats. Another one was taken at Stanley Park, with a stone lined pond and an island in the middle, with swans. I remember that place. There's also an old photo of Kootenay Lake. If you'd like to see any, just ask. Jim Bundy

    01/04/2007 03:26:40
    1. [CAN-BC] Look up Request
    2. Carol
    3. Hello List, If anyone is going to the archives or a library in the near future, could you please have a peek at this film to see if Sophia's parents are named? I would very much like to know this lady's maiden name. Name: Sophia SmartPlace KincolithReg. Number: 1934-09-018597 Date: 1934 1 22 (Yr/Mo/Day)Age: 63Event: Death Microfilm #: B13362 (GSU # 1983212) Thanks for any help given! Sincerely, Carol Wright h2owagaon@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

    01/03/2007 03:30:17
    1. [CAN-BC] Camp Vernon 1916
    2. Joanne Peterson
    3. My grandfather was also in Camp Vernon that year (and we have photos). Do you have any idea of dates in 1916? My Jack signed up in Vancouver 23 March 1916 - and he left Canada 14 August 1916. There is a photo of the ship leaving Victoria too. It would be interesting to compare dates - and if it seems they were there the same time - to share photos? Joanne -----Original Message----- From: can-british-columbia-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:can-british-columbia- Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 14:28:44 -0800 From: "Jim Bundy" <jbundy48@comcast.net> Subject: [CAN-BC] James Ramsay and unit marching into Camp Vernon 1916 Hi, My maternal grandfather James Ramsay, who'd already fought in the Boer War as a young man, volunteered again to fight in WW1. He was known as "old soldier Ramsay", as he was in his late 30's then. Anyway, the photo shows him and others marching into Camp to begin training, with a note on the rear of the picture. I'd be glad to share this picture too. Hope someone can find theirs in it. Jim Bundy

    01/01/2007 07:42:46
    1. [CAN-BC] Genealogy Volunteer Site
    2. Genealogy LookUp Forum is a web site of volunteers who will do various types of genealogical look ups such as births, census, cemetery, deaths and marriage. Please visit the site to locate a volunteer in your area. I am sure you will not be disappointed on how helpful these folks with genealogy. _http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~genealogylookup/index.html_ (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~genealogylookup/index.html)

    01/01/2007 10:17:30
    1. [CAN-BC] Paradise Lake Surf Inlet BC and Pacific Shingle Co Coquitlam
    2. Jim Bundy
    3. Hi, The latest scans are of the above 2 places, with the mill at Coquitlam shown in winter and summer on 2 photos, and the other 1 of the lake. There's another 1 of the same lake, but turned out poorly. Jim Bundy

    01/01/2007 09:54:22
    1. Re: [CAN-BC] Genealogy Volunteer Site
    2. Pam Thomson
    3. If you tried to click on the link given & didn't get to the webpage, I have found that links posted by aol subscribers don't work for me- however, the nearly duplicate link in the brackets below the first link will always work for me! Pam Wishing you a Happy New Year! On Jan 1, 2007, at 2:17 PM, Granpahoy@aol.com wrote: > > Genealogy LookUp Forum is a web site of volunteers who will do > various types > of genealogical look ups such as births, census, cemetery, deaths and > marriage. > > > Please visit the site to locate a volunteer in your area. I am > sure you will > not be disappointed on how helpful these folks with genealogy. > > > _http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~genealogylookup/index.html_ > (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~genealogylookup/index.html) > Pam Fairweather Thomson Sechelt, BC, Canada pthomson@dccnet.com

    01/01/2007 07:59:48
    1. [CAN-BC] James Ramsay and unit marching into Camp Vernon 1916
    2. Jim Bundy
    3. Hi, My maternal grandfather James Ramsay, who'd already fought in the Boer War as a young man, volunteered again to fight in WW1. He was known as "old soldier Ramsay", as he was in his late 30's then. Anyway, the photo shows him and others marching into Camp to begin training, with a note on the rear of the picture. I'd be glad to share this picture too. Hope someone can find theirs in it. Jim Bundy

    01/01/2007 07:28:44
    1. [CAN-BC] North Vancouver Choral Society 1930 concert
    2. Jim Bundy
    3. Hi, I've scanned this set a while back this year. While my Bundys were moving all over the place, Mom's family, the Ramsays, were firmly entrenched at Capilano North Van, where the family home still stands. This set of pages is as described above, and contains many names. Let me know if you'd like to see them. Jim Bundy

    01/01/2007 07:20:35
    1. [CAN-BC] New to list, help needed-Lawrence
    2. Malcolm Moody
    3. Hi again Lawrence and list, As a result of my previous posting I have been having an "off-list" conversation with a very nice and knowledgeable lady , Claudia Cole, who is an Archival Research Agent working in BC. She has corrected my assumption about New Westminster and tells me that "The Cassiar" was indeed in the New Westminster administration district at that time - despite the enormous geographical separation. Claudia was far too polite to correct me in public herself, but I felt that I should straighten out the record, particularly as it does help to confirm your (Lawrence's) data. I didn't mention it before but we do have in our catalogue a book, Year Book of British Columbia - 1903, catalogue #CA0166, which contains a lot of general and statistical information on Cassiar and even some mentions of "Lightning Creek" although I'm not at all sure that there was only one of these so you might need more information to track that particular reference. On the PS to your later posting; "PS would Peter OLLIER have come overland or via sea to the west coast at that time?" As "steamers" (steam ships) were in service in the last quarter of the 1800's it was possible to travel to the west coast by sea but it was a long - not to say dangerous - journey. On the other hand there were plenty (relatively) of ships crossing the Atlantic and travel from coast to coast was a possibility. Before the "National Trans-continental Railway" was completed cross continental rail transport was mostly on the US side of the border. There were also available overland "road" routes through both the US and Canada so while you might find out which routes were more popular I think you would need more information to know which route your ancestor actually chose. Malcolm Archive CD Books Canada Inc. President: Malcolm Moody PO Box 11 Manotick Ontario, K4M 1A2 Canada. (613) 692-2667 WEB SITE: http://www.ArchiveCDBooks.ca > Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 11:46:09 -0500 > From: Malcolm Moody <malcolm@archivecdbooks.ca> > Subject: Re: [CAN-BC] New to list, help needed-Lawrence > To: CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <2c7ae1f65814a739eeae189966969073@archivecdbooks.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > Hi Lawrence, and welcome to the BC list, > > A little help I think. We have already released a reproduction on CD > of Lovell's 1874 Gazetteer of British North America, our cat. # CA0104, > but it has no reference to any of the place names you mentioned (except > New Westminster of course but I'll get back to that.) > > <snip> > > The entry goes on to further describe access routes for goods and > mail, which was said to be forwarded from Victoria "in earlier years" > which makes me wonder if the "New Westminster" reference might be a > mail route since it is clearly no where near "Cassiar." No mention of > Lightning Creek anywhere (in either gazetteer) but consider the ".... > There are also a number of small creeks in the area ..." part of the > quote above. > > <snip>

    01/01/2007 04:47:32
    1. [CAN-BC] yet more pictures
    2. Jim Bundy
    3. Hi, Just scanned another page in 1 of my albums of old photos. This set has the Motherlode Mine, Sandwick W(est?) Courtenay log wagon with horses, Brookmere BC with cabins and tents, Waldo BC Jordan's Camp 1916 in winter, and another shot of the horse drawn sleigh in front of massive icicles, maybe hanging from a rail bridge(?) at Sheep Creek. Also one with my grandmother with an unknown friend and a young girl, maybe friend's daughter. My grandparents only had 1 child, my Dad, in 1921, when Catherine was 31 and Granddad 33. They'd been married 9 years by then. I'll be happy to share them with anyone. Jim Bundy

    01/01/2007 04:18:33
    1. [CAN-BC] more old BC photos
    2. Jim Bundy
    3. Hi, I just scanned another page from an album. This one has several photos of that cabin at Burquitlam, so I wonder if mine lived there for a time. Then there's one of a boarding house located at 896 Howe Street Vancouver in 1916, a man on a cart with horse somewhere in BC, and one of my grandmother at a house/cabin at Bowen Island, also in 1916. In those times, mine liked to move around a lot. I'd be happy to share any with you. Jim Bundy

    12/31/2006 02:38:40
    1. Re: [CAN-BC] New Lister Peter OLLIER.
    2. Lawrence Ollier
    3. Hi to Sue, Claudia, Tara, Heather & Malcom. I am responding to you all in this reply if thats OK. First thanks for your responses to my enquiry I was expecting a warm Canadian welcome and was not disapointed, thanks. I live in Cornwall, England but do have fond memories of Canada...when I was a young lad in the 1970's I left Tilbury, UK. on a Polish (Poland) ship heading for Montreal, I was off Gold Mining in the Porcupine Lake (Timmins) area of Ontario..I / we traveled all over Canada and ended up living in Vancouver (Kitsalano) for a couple of years, little did I realise then that I had an ancestor that trod the trail before me! I am 99% certain that the Peter OLLIER in the 1881 Canadian Census is him. His age fits within a couple of years on the Census Record..he is listed as a miner & I have early UK census records of him working in the Quarries in Northen England then he disapears from the UK altogether ie: no marriage record, no more census records and no death record so I think it's him alright. His last sighting was in the UK 1861 census. Now here is the bit that confuses me: The Peter OLLIER that died in Nanaimo V.I. is certainly of the right age...however in the BC voters list of 1875 there are two seperate listings for a Peter OLLIER...the first is for Peter OLLIER of Lightning Creek a Free Miner, the district code is CL which I am almost sure stands for Cariboo / Lightning Creek (as in Barkerville, Wells, Stanley etc) The other listing in the same register for that same year is: Peter OLLIER of Cavan St. Nanaimo, labourer, householder. I am wondering if these two are one of the same ie: worked the Gold Fields and had a house in Nanaimo with the proceeds. Peter OLLIER is also on the Nanaino petion of 1878 also. Have searched the Canadian 1881 Census for a "Nanaimo" Peter OLLIER...nothing has been found. Any comments are welcome. Thanks for reading all of this. BTW Edwin Charles OLLIER death Vancouver...yes he is one of ours he was born in Crewe, Cheshire, England in 1896 have found him crossing the border at Detroit in the 1940's. Best regards to you all. PS would Peter OLLIER have come overland or via sea to the west coast at that time?

    12/31/2006 11:58:14
    1. [CAN-BC] RE OLLIER and gold mining records
    2. Claudia Cole
    3. Joanne, Lawrence, and List: I would not be surprised at anyone getting a start in the gold fields, but then settling on the southern coast, or on Vancouver Island. I mentioned earlier the RATH brothers who mined in Cassiar. William Rath took land north of Nanaimo, on Vancouver Island, and settled there to farm. A large part of that farm is now known as Rathtrevor Beach Provincial Park. Ideal climate is available on Vancouver Island and vicinity...why live anywhere else?? (well, there is the rain to consider, but think about the snow in the north and interior of the province!) Another such case was the man who in 1895 built the house in Victoria, where fifty years later I was to live and grow up. Charles Printer was a placer miner for some months of the year, according to the 1901 census, and farmed his property during the other months. When I worked in the Nanaimo Museum, I was told by old timers, that a certain large and luxurious home there was built by a man who made his fortune in gold mining, far from Nanaimo. Gold Commissioner records are at BC Archives...that's where you'll find the records of miners being licenced, and claims, if it's gold mining. I searched at http://search.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/sn-5A31F8D/advsearch/TextualRec ords on the exact phrase gold commissioner and came up with 36 results...mostly government records, from different areas of the province. Some of the titles don't give much clue as to where or when the records were created, but if you click on each one, you come up with more description, and sometimes detailed finding aids. Here's one government record group, titled BRITISH COLUMBIA. GOLD COMMISSIONER, CARIBOO GR-1783 BRITISH COLUMBIA. GOLD COMMISSIONER, CARIBOO. Originals, 1862-1869, 1877, 13 cm Incoming correspondence from Colonial Secretary, Treasury, and other government departments. For additional correspondence, see Colonial Correspondence, GR-1372 and Department of Mines records listings. and one from Barkerville: GR-2907 BRITISH COLUMBIA. GOLD COMMISSIONER. BARKERVILLE. Originals, 1873-1909, 2 cm Records of the Government Agent and Gold Commissioner at Barkerville relating to mineral claims, elections and other work of the office. Subject Headings Barkerville (B.C.) British Columbia. Government Agent. Richfield. Cariboo district (B.C.) Mines and mineral resources - British Columbia - Cariboo district Richfield (B.C.) Secondary Entries Bowron, John, 1837-1906 Claudia Cole Archival Research Agent 5640 Jordans Lane Duncan, BC V9L 6J1 250 748-0836 claudialc@telus.net Visit my website at www3.telus.net/bcresearch -----Original Message----- From: can-british-columbia-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:can-british-columbia-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joanne Peterson Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 4:26 PM To: can-british-columbia@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CAN-BC] OLLIER in Cassiar (Claudia Cole) -- Early gold MININGin BC Claudia, as usual you provided some great information! Usually your comments provide food for thought. I have always assumed I was 'out of luck' for information on my great-great-grandfather, one of the many who arrived in BC at the big 1858 influx. It is written in a few books that he went to the Cariboo, made no money, and so settled on Mayne Island. Mostly I think this is based on family stories. But is there any obvious leads I should be following? (Marie Elliott was sure she found his name on some petition once about a Gold Commissioner, but I have never found that. It was to prove he made it up as far as the Barkerville area.) He died in 1870 on Mayne, so there is little hard information on him. Joanne Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 10:09:36 -0800 From: "Claudia Cole" <claudialc@telus.net> Subject: Re: [CAN-BC] New to list, help needed-Lawrence RE: OLLIER in Cassiar ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/31/2006 10:47:12
    1. Re: [CAN-BC] OLLIER in Cassiar (Claudia Cole) -- Early gold MINING in BC
    2. Joanne Peterson
    3. Claudia, as usual you provided some great information! Usually your comments provide food for thought. I have always assumed I was 'out of luck' for information on my great-great-grandfather, one of the many who arrived in BC at the big 1858 influx. It is written in a few books that he went to the Cariboo, made no money, and so settled on Mayne Island. Mostly I think this is based on family stories. But is there any obvious leads I should be following? (Marie Elliott was sure she found his name on some petition once about a Gold Commissioner, but I have never found that. It was to prove he made it up as far as the Barkerville area.) He died in 1870 on Mayne, so there is little hard information on him. Joanne Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 10:09:36 -0800 From: "Claudia Cole" <claudialc@telus.net> Subject: Re: [CAN-BC] New to list, help needed-Lawrence RE: OLLIER in Cassiar

    12/31/2006 09:26:11
    1. Re: [CAN-BC] New to list, help needed-Lawrence
    2. Malcolm Moody
    3. Hi Lawrence, and welcome to the BC list, A little help I think. We have already released a reproduction on CD of Lovell's 1874 Gazetteer of British North America, our cat. # CA0104, but it has no reference to any of the place names you mentioned (except New Westminster of course but I'll get back to that.) We also have a copy of the 1895 edition waiting to be scanned and had more luck in that edition in that there is an uncharacteristically long entry for Cassiar which looks like a good possibility for you. Because of the length of the entry I'm only going to try and pick out the relevant bits for you: NB: These are literal quotes so the stilted language comes directly from the book. I left it like that because it leaves some room for ambiguity and you should be aware of this. "......" indicates text left out.) "Cassiar is a mineral country, producing gold placer mining. It was discovered in 1873 by McCullough & Thibert ......" (Hence no entry in the 1874 gazeetter.) "Cassiar is reached by steamer from Fort Wrangel, Alaska Territory, 700 miles (time 4 days), thence by river steamer to Glenora, 140 miles, on Stickeen river (time 2 days). A fine government trail commences here and brings the traveler to head of Dease Lake, a distance of 84 miles; thence 18 miles by steamer to Laketown - principal town in district ........ *80 miles down Dease River is Sylvester's Landing, at the mouth of the McDames Creek; 12 miles, on good trail, the trail is reached, and the mines are working. Defot Creek, 12 miles from Thibert, is also a gold-bearing creek. There are also a number of small creeks in the area paying wages and over, but the former are generally considered the principal ones." I didn't go looking for the relevant detailed maps but I would expect there to be enough here to locate the area using modern recourses. The entry goes on to further describe access routes for goods and mail, which was said to be forwarded from Victoria "in earlier years" which makes me wonder if the "New Westminster" reference might be a mail route since it is clearly no where near "Cassiar." No mention of Lightning Creek anywhere (in either gazetteer) but consider the ".... There are also a number of small creeks in the area ..." part of the quote above. Again uncharacteristically, the entry goes on to describe the hunting and growing prospects of the area and it looks to have been a good area to set up "wilderness" housekeeping. It does also say, however, that the winters were long and hard, the area being above 59 degN. The temperature dropped to 72 deg (F presumably) below during the 1879-80 winter. (It's about -58 degC.) These gazetteers can be absolute gold mines (pardon the pun) of information - as evidenced by the extract above - but we receive very little encouragement to publish the reproductions which is why this one is still still sitting on the "waiting to be scanned" shelf. I wonder if it's because people don't realize what they contain which is partly why I'm glad to be able to help you out with the above information. Incidentally, if this is your man I suspect you will have difficulty getting a more specific location for him as there is an implication in the entry that the area was in decline because the gold was running out and these mining camps tended to be transient affairs with little or no "government." Good luck though - a throughly fascinating area of research into Canadian development. Malcolm Archive CD Books Canada Inc. President: Malcolm Moody PO Box 11 Manotick Ontario, K4M 1A2 Canada. (613) 692-2667 WEB SITE: http://www.ArchiveCDBooks.ca > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 13:17:00 -0000 > From: "Lawrence Ollier" <lorenzo.9@talk21.com> > Subject: [CAN-BC] New to list, help needed > To: <CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <002d01c72c14$cbb62b30$f9337ad5@SN038855820640> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi there, I am new to this list and need a bit of guidence, I have an > IGI 1881 Canadian Census Record for a Peter OLLIER it only lists the > place as the following: > > Cassiar & Northern Interior, New Westminster, British Columbia. > > I have also found another reference to a Peter OLLIER on the 1875 B.C. > voters list, his location is given as Lightning Creek. > > Would these two locations tie up? or could someone tell me where they > are? > > Many thanks. > > Lawrence Ollier. >

    12/31/2006 04:46:09
    1. Re: [CAN-BC] New to list, help needed
    2. Jim Bundy
    3. Hi Lawrence, My only knowledge of Lightning Creek is via my Dad, who spent time at Wingdam while his parents cooked for the miners. The mine at Wingdam was dug under Lightning Creek, which worked well till the day the creek came crashing down into the mine. Dad says the miners in there at the time came running out to safety, but that ended the mining there at that time. Jim Bundy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lawrence Ollier" <lorenzo.9@talk21.com> To: <CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 5:17 AM Subject: [CAN-BC] New to list, help needed > Hi there, I am new to this list and need a bit of guidence, I have an IGI > 1881 Canadian Census Record for a Peter OLLIER it only lists the place as > the following: > > Cassiar & Northern Interior, New Westminster, British Columbia. > > I have also found another reference to a Peter OLLIER on the 1875 B.C. > voters list, his location is given as Lightning Creek. > > Would these two locations tie up? or could someone tell me where they are? > > Many thanks. > > Lawrence Ollier. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/31/2006 03:59:51
    1. Re: [CAN-BC] New to list, help needed-Lawrence
    2. Claudia Cole
    3. RE: OLLIER in Cassiar If your man was a miner, there could be something on him in the BC Archives records of that mining district. I did some work on the Rath brothers in Cassiar district, 1873-4 and found their miner's licences. Other information about the miners in that district at that date was found in the Colonist newspaper of Victoria, when William Rath came as the representative of the miners to fight for their rights with bureaucracy over registration problems caused by their extreme distance from the capital. There was often news of the mining districts published in the city papers, and this sort of information could give you a good idea of what was going on, month to month, so that you'd have a pretty good idea of what your ancestor was doing there, even if there was never a mention of his name. The BC government's Sessional Papers could contain more detailed information about mining activity in the report of the Ministry of Mines. (also held at BC Archives) Maps of all the mining districts probably exist too, with the contemporary names for creeks, so you could figure out exactly where he was. If there was some other industry starting up at the time in Cassiar, such as farming or forestry, records should be found in BC Archives. You might also find some court records, and government agent records, but you won't find local newspapers! I couldn't even get regular newspaper coverage for that area for the 1980s! Fortunately, the Colonist (Victoria) and Columbian (New Westminster), both held at BC Archives, would cover news from Cassiar. Photographs of Cassiar area in general would be found in the BC Archives collection. Unfortunately, there are two other Lightning Creeks in the province, one in Cariboo and one on the southern border of B.C. The Cariboo Lightning Creek near Barkerville was also the name of the town situated there, with gold mining, and you'll find there are plenty of photos of that one but perhaps nothing of the Lightning Creek in Cassiar. For Lightning Creek in Cassiar, the best bet is probably to try for old mining maps, and see what the later name for the creek was. Claudia Claudia Cole Archival Research Agent 5640 Jordans Lane Duncan, BC V9L 6J1 250 748-0836 claudialc@telus.net Visit my website at http://www3.telus.net/bcresearch -----Original Message----- From: can-british-columbia-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:can-british-columbia-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Malcolm Moody Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 8:46 AM To: CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CAN-BC] New to list, help needed-Lawrence Hi Lawrence, and welcome to the BC list, A little help I think. We have already released a reproduction on CD of Lovell's 1874 Gazetteer of British North America, our cat. # CA0104, but it has no reference to any of the place names you mentioned (except New Westminster of course but I'll get back to that.) We also have a copy of the 1895 edition waiting to be scanned and had more luck in that edition in that there is an uncharacteristically long entry for Cassiar which looks like a good possibility for you. Because of the length of the entry I'm only going to try and pick out the relevant bits for you: NB: These are literal quotes so the stilted language comes directly from the book. I left it like that because it leaves some room for ambiguity and you should be aware of this. "......" indicates text left out.) "Cassiar is a mineral country, producing gold placer mining. It was discovered in 1873 by McCullough & Thibert ......" (Hence no entry in the 1874 gazeetter.) "Cassiar is reached by steamer from Fort Wrangel, Alaska Territory, 700 miles (time 4 days), thence by river steamer to Glenora, 140 miles, on Stickeen river (time 2 days). A fine government trail commences here and brings the traveler to head of Dease Lake, a distance of 84 miles; thence 18 miles by steamer to Laketown - principal town in district ........ *80 miles down Dease River is Sylvester's Landing, at the mouth of the McDames Creek; 12 miles, on good trail, the trail is reached, and the mines are working. Defot Creek, 12 miles from Thibert, is also a gold-bearing creek. There are also a number of small creeks in the area paying wages and over, but the former are generally considered the principal ones." I didn't go looking for the relevant detailed maps but I would expect there to be enough here to locate the area using modern recourses. The entry goes on to further describe access routes for goods and mail, which was said to be forwarded from Victoria "in earlier years" which makes me wonder if the "New Westminster" reference might be a mail route since it is clearly no where near "Cassiar." No mention of Lightning Creek anywhere (in either gazetteer) but consider the ".... There are also a number of small creeks in the area ..." part of the quote above. Again uncharacteristically, the entry goes on to describe the hunting and growing prospects of the area and it looks to have been a good area to set up "wilderness" housekeeping. It does also say, however, that the winters were long and hard, the area being above 59 degN. The temperature dropped to 72 deg (F presumably) below during the 1879-80 winter. (It's about -58 degC.) These gazetteers can be absolute gold mines (pardon the pun) of information - as evidenced by the extract above - but we receive very little encouragement to publish the reproductions which is why this one is still still sitting on the "waiting to be scanned" shelf. I wonder if it's because people don't realize what they contain which is partly why I'm glad to be able to help you out with the above information. Incidentally, if this is your man I suspect you will have difficulty getting a more specific location for him as there is an implication in the entry that the area was in decline because the gold was running out and these mining camps tended to be transient affairs with little or no "government." Good luck though - a throughly fascinating area of research into Canadian development. Malcolm Archive CD Books Canada Inc. President: Malcolm Moody PO Box 11 Manotick Ontario, K4M 1A2 Canada. (613) 692-2667 WEB SITE: http://www.ArchiveCDBooks.ca > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 13:17:00 -0000 > From: "Lawrence Ollier" <lorenzo.9@talk21.com> > Subject: [CAN-BC] New to list, help needed > To: <CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <002d01c72c14$cbb62b30$f9337ad5@SN038855820640> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi there, I am new to this list and need a bit of guidence, I have an > IGI 1881 Canadian Census Record for a Peter OLLIER it only lists the > place as the following: > > Cassiar & Northern Interior, New Westminster, British Columbia. > > I have also found another reference to a Peter OLLIER on the 1875 B.C. > voters list, his location is given as Lightning Creek. > > Would these two locations tie up? or could someone tell me where they > are? > > Many thanks. > > Lawrence Ollier. > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/31/2006 03:09:36