This is my first visit to this list in the hope that I will track down relations of my great grandfather. Eric Lionel ARMSTRONG was born about 1880, place unknown. About 1911/12 he sailed to Nova Scotia and later settled in New Brunswick where he worked as a Mining Engineer. Presumably he travelled on to another part of Canada and settled down with his new family. Eric was travelling with his daughter Amy who was born in 1905 in South Wales. Eric was a Music Teacher and could play any musical instrument. It's possible he was born in Hungary. Does anyone recognise Eric and his daughter Amy. Regards Jill

To all:- PETITIONS are starting to come again -- some from Canada, some from parts of United States. We cannot over-emphasize the need for these signatures on petitions, whether for the Senate or the House of Commons. Signatures are PROOF we want the Post-1901 census records released. http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Petition.htm Why do we keep saying "Post-1901"? Three provinces of Canada: Saskatchewan, Alberta and Manitoba have never had a Canadian census -- their special 1906 census should have been released in 1998 -- not allowed by StatsCan. There are earlier records, many on Alberta sites, but under different names, e.g. North-West Territories, Assiniboine - even Hudson's Bay. The main cross-Canada census would be the 1911 one -- and should the 1921 and 1931 also be released, it would not make me unhappy. Senator Milne tells me I want to see my name on a census record, but this would bring it in line with United States 1930 one. Keep the petitions coming, please -- Gordon and I exchange petitions, and should there be a real need for House of Commons ones which have been sent to me, do not worry! I will tabulate, send them via Senator Milne to Murray Calder and tell Gordon later (in print). Above all, please change my e-mail address now - as of Nov. 22 <davidson3542@rogers.com> [We will receive mail until Nov. 30] Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee

I don't usually ask for lookups because I can't offer to do this for someone else. I subscribed to this list just this week hoping to find some information on two lost relatives. I posted my request for George Henry Luff and that same day I received three offers to look up the death registration number that I had. Diane Brown did this for me and I would like to thank her for time and help! The information proved that I had been chasing after the wrong George but at least now I know. I would also like to thank Pam Thomas and Dorothy Ballard, the other two people that offered to help. We certainly rely on the kindness of strangers. Thank you, Kristine Watson Ontario, Canada

Hello, I'm new to this list. I am researching the family of Rebecca Mary Mould and need SKS who can access obituaries for the Victoria Daily Times. Her obituary was in The Victoria Daily Times May 8, 1901 page 5. I also need the obituary for Mrs. Thomas Mackay (daughter Isabell married Rebecca's son John Thomas). It was in The Victoria Daily Times Aug. 24, 1908, page 5. If someone knows if I can order microfilm for this newspaper, I would appreciate that information, too. I live in the U.S. and don't know if I can order through interlibrary loan. Thanks, Cathy Van Cleave

Could sks please do two more lookups for me? Otto Jacob SCHLUMPF Death: 1951 04 27 Reg. 1951-09-005299 B.C. Archives B13208 Jessie Amelia JOHNSON Death: 1973 11 12 Reg. 1973-09-016050 B.C. Archives B13328 Thanks very much, Marilyn (Johnson) Robinson in Ontario

Hello list, How would I go about finding out what year my AXFORD ancestors were in business. This is all the info I have and am trying to determine what year they emmigrated from England. I know they operated a store (I'm assuming a grocery/general store) - on Robson St. in Vancouver and one in (Ruskin?). These were the first stores they operated and it would have been after 1904 (they are in a family photo in England, dated 1904). They (Harold AXFORD and Edward John Frederick AXFORD) later operated a store in Port Moody. EJF AXFORD's attestation papers are dated for 1917, so he immigrated to Canada sometime bet 1904 -1917. After the war EJF owned and operated the Royal Oak grocery store in Burnaby. I do have info on this store. So I guess I'm looking for some sort of business directory??. Thanx for your time.........debi

Greetings All. I copy below FYI another excellent article written by Professor Bill Waiser that was printed on page A15 of this morning's (19 Sept 2001) Globe and Mail. My thanks to Ian Cooper who advised us about the article. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted. ================================ Come to your census, Statscan -- Bill Waiser Statistics Canada is getting desperate. How else can one explain the recent Department of Public Works contract tender to convene 14 town hall meetings (one in every province and territory) and 24 focus group sessions (two in every centre) to survey the public's attitude to the release of historical census records? There's nothing wrong with public consultation. But Statscan has already been down this road. In November, 1999, then industry minister John Manley appointed a blue-ribbon panel to investigate the question of access to historical census records. Statscan not only supported the initiative, but facilitated the committee's activities. The panel, which included a former Supreme Court of Canada judge, heard from various stakeholders; it considered the findings of a March, 2000, Environics poll and the opinion of several focus groups. It found that the majority of those who participated in the national poll support the release of their personal census information after 100 years. The focus groups generally agreed. Many participants appreciated the fact that the future release of census material would allow their descendants to explore family roots. The survey results flatly contradicted Statscan's repeated claim that the release of historic census material would jeopardize future census participation. The panel noted that the previous release of census materials in Canada (up to 1901) had not produced any objection. In fact, the panel suggested that if American and British releases were also included, more than 620 million individual records had been released without a single complaint. Why then, is Statscan commissioning another round of public consultations? The simple answer is that the agency didn't like the panel's recommendations -- in particular, that pre-1918 census records be made available to the public immediately, according to existing regulations. Statscan is also apparently trying to counter a new threat -- the most recent legal opinion on the matter. Since 1978, there have been 11 -- yes, 11 -- legal opinions on the question of public access to historical census materials. The latest, dated Aug. 1, 2000, and made available through access to information, was prepared by a senior counsel with the Department of Justice, who was asked to consider whether pre-1918 census records could be legally released after 92 years without any legislative change. Ann Chaplin's opinion was an unequivocal yes -- noting that if these records were meant to be kept secret forever, why did the Laurier government insist that they be transferred to the National Archives as a permanent record? This legal opinion effectively undercuts Statscan's stubborn refusal to transfer census materials to the custody and control of the National Archivist. It raises serious concern about Statcan's motives. Why is the government agency embarking on yet another round of public opinion surveys in what appears to be a transparent attempt to discredit Department of Justice legal opinions? Surely it's not going to ask loaded questions designed to raise public fears over the release of census materials. Why is Statistics Canada determined to ignore the panel's recommendations, especially when public opinion surveys were involved? Did participants give the "wrong" answers? Most importantly, why is Statscan denying thousands of ordinary Canadians the pleasure of learning more about their ancestor's lives? Isn't 92 years a reasonable waiting period for the release of these records? Those interested in Canada's past deserve to know. --------------------------------------------------- Bill Waiser is writing a history of Saskatchewan for the 2005 provincial centennial.

Hello, If Stella Stanger is a member of this list, can you please reply to me privately. I am in need of a lookup and the address I have for you is no longer active. Thanks, Marlinna Stringer

Greetings All. I have just finished sending files to Global Genealogy for loading to the server and updating of the Scoreboards for MPs and Senators. When loaded, the online Scoreboard totals will show a date of 19 November. The current online totals show a date of 31 October. The new totals reflect all responses from MPs and Senators that have been forwarded to me. I currently have no further correspondence from MPs or Senators that would cause a change in their positions shown on the Scoreboards. Please check the Scoreboards in a day or so. If you have any correspondence from MPs or Senators that would change the position shown for them please forward it to me so that I might bring things up to date once again. Changes since the posting of 31 October are as follows: Gold Ticks of support have been awarded to MPs, Carole-Marie Allard (PQ), Elsie Wayne (NB), Howard Hillstrom (MB), and Jim Gouk (BC). Senators Isobel Finnerty (ON), Laurier LaPierre (ON), and Gerry St. Germain (BC) have also been awarded Gold Ticks. One Senator has been removed from the Scoreboard because he has retired. Non-committal Fence icons have been awarded to MPs Julian Reed (ON) and Steve Mahoney (ON). Both of these previously had Red Xs of opposition. Fence icons have also been awarded to MPs Derek Lee (ON) Karen Redman (ON), and to Senator Terry Stratton (MB). Totals currently stand at: House of Commons: FOR - 139, AGAINST - 7, NON-COMMITTAL - 67, NO RESPONSE - 88 Senate: FOR - 21, AGAINST - 3, NON-COMMITTAL - 10, NO RESPONSE - 63 There is currently considerable activity at this time, relating to our campaign, in both the Senate and the House of Commons. Senator Lorna Milne's Bill S-12 is being considered in Committee at this time and it is expected that it will shortly be referred back to the Senate in Report stage where it would receive more discussion and receive third reading. If it passes third reading it would be referred to the House of Commons. It is expected that Murray Calder's Bill C-312 will this week be considered in order to determine whether or not it will be considered votable. We are optimistic that it will be votable. If votable, it would receive up to three hours debate in the House. If non-votable it would receive a maximum of 1 hour discussion and would then be dropped. If votable, and if passed, it would go through the normal procedures of being referred to Committee, brought back to the House for the Report Stage and third reading after which, if passed, it would be referred to the Senate. Rules of the House do not permit two Bills that are identical (such as C-312 and S-12), or nearly so to be considered in the House at the same time. Should Bill S-12 pass all the steps in the Senate and be referred to the House, Murray Calder would likely withdraw his Bill C-312. With everything that is going on at this time it is important to keep collecting signatures on petitions. It is equally important, if not more so right now, to continue writing, or to write again, to our Members of Parliament and Senators to seek their support for these Bills. Check the updated Scoreboards before writing. For those having Gold Ticks of support, messages of appreciation should be sent with a wish for their continued support. For Fence-sitters, or those who have not responded at all, ask for their support for these Bills and request a response to your query. If writing to the few having Red Xs of opposition, respectfully request their reasons for their opposition. In all instances, keep your messages polite, direct, and to the point. It is especially important at this time to keep the pressure on. We must not allow our representatives to think that we have given up on, or are no longer interested, in regaining the public access to Historic Census Records the we are currently denied. With everyone assisting, we WILL succeed in our goal. We cannot, however, think that our friends efforts will be enough to do the job. We must do it ourselves, and we must do it NOW!! Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

Roberta et al: "The city of Duncan grew up from a whistle stop at William Duncan's farm in the 1880s." Source: The B. C. Explorer's Travel Guide, Beautiful British Columbia Magazine, 1997, p. 55. Regards. Doug in Victoria

Hello Listers here are my two new mailing lists that i'm the administrator to they are as follows could you please let other members know about them thanks. STRETTON-L-request@rootsweb.com MARTINDELL-L-request@rootsweb.com

Is there anyone on the list who can tell me how to proceed with this information? If there is anyone who can look up my George Luff, I would appreciate any help. Kristine Watson Ontario, Canada Name: GEORGE HENRY LUFF Age: 72 Gender: Male Event Place: GANGES Reg. Number: 1953-09-002403 B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B13214 GSU Microfilm Number: 2032863

Thankyou all for replying. I have tried the number I have been sent. It is not in service. Any ideas? regards, Linda.

Hi Cindi British Columbia Birth< death and Marriage indices are at the BC Archives, the URL is http://www.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/textual/governmt/vstats/v_events.htm It is specific to British Columbia , no Alberta Statistics Regards David On Fri, 16 Nov 2001 19:52:10 -0800, mtnlksmama wrote: >Hi List, > About a year or so ago i was given a web address to look up the record number for my grandparents in Rossland,BC. I was a year too early for them to be there. Now i have a different confuder and i have lost that address. Could someone please share it with me again. Also would Alberta, BC records be on the same site?? Thanks in advance > >Cindi Grant >Newport, WA >mtnlksmama@itss.net > > > >==== CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA Mailing List ==== >Check the list's archives out at >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/CAN/CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA.html > >

To all:- In a conversation with Senator Lorna Milne this evening, I mentioned I did not have sufficient petitions received to tabulate. Many of these are from residents of United States -- Canadian petitions are NEEDED. This need applies to both Senator Lorna Milne and to Murray Calder, MP. They are working on behalf of us with identically-worded Bill S-12 and Bill C-312. There will always be some elected or appointed member who will remark, "Show us the proof!" The PROOF that YOU and I desire the Post-1901 census records released are YOUR signatures on petitions. It would be much better if Senator Milne could stand with a big fistful of petitions, rather than say "NONE". I realize this census matter has been dragging on far too long -- it had to be started all over again after the Nov. 27, 2000 election. Have YOU ever wondered what Gordon Watts, myself and a few others could do if we had not committed ourselves, on your behalf, to this project. PLEASE download both Senate and House of Commons petitions -- these are needed now with many signatures. SNOW-BIRDS in Florida or other warmer places may use the Canadian petitions IF they have a Canadian residence -- otherwise Non-Resident Petition. There is no excuse -- Gordon Watts provided me with attachments!!! Just ask, state whether Canada or Non-Resident -- it will be sent. This is a great project for students at schools -- one of our youngest workers is now 18 years of age -- Happy Birthday, Nat! We must provide the PROOF if you want the census -- signatures are only used for proof -- nothing else. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Petition.htm [As of Nov. 22: <davidson3542@rogers.com> ]

Hello Everyone, Would someone please lookup the telephone number of A.W. FIXTER of 2309 Nanaimo Syreet, Vancouver,B.C. Thankyou, regards, Linda.

The online indexes to British Columbia Vital Records are at http://www.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/textual/governmt/vstats/v_events.htm#indexes (((****note**** the above link is to be entered in one line into your browser))) These records are freely available and there are several possibilities for accessing them at a low cost. Search The Births Registration Index: 1872-1900 (events over 100 years old) Search The Marriage Registration Index: 1872-1925 (events over 75 years old) Search The Death Registration Index: 1872-1980 (events over 20 years old) Phone numbers for anyone currently published in this calendar year throughout Canada can be found at: http://canada411.sympatico.ca/eng/person.html

Hi List, About a year or so ago i was given a web address to look up the record number for my grandparents in Rossland,BC. I was a year too early for them to be there. Now i have a different confuder and i have lost that address. Could someone please share it with me again. Also would Alberta, BC records be on the same site?? Thanks in advance Cindi Grant Newport, WA mtnlksmama@itss.net

Hi Everyone I have just joined this List in hoping to find info on my SHEPHERD family. Robert SHEPHERD (1878) was born to Alexander SHEPHERD and Catherine STORRIER. He married Mary Jane MITCHELL in 1899 in Longforgan, Perthshire, Scotland. They eventually resided in an area near Arbroath, Angus, Scotland. In 1926, they emigrated to Canada and were headed for Saskatchewan as part of the 3000 Family Settlement Plan. I have their passenger List. They brought with them children: Robert (1902) William Mitchell (1910) Jane Ann Clark (1912) Andrew Storrier (1913) John Cuthill (1916) (he may have died WW11) Mina Fullerton (1918) Colin Gowan (1924) and Granddaughter, Mary Jane Mitchell (1923). I have checked the Commonwealth Graves Commission and have seen a reference to John H SHEPHERD who died August, 1944. I believe that may be their son. The additional info said he was the son of Robert & Mary Jane SHEPHERD. Husband of Lillian Jenevra SHEPHERD of Port Alberni, B.C. Does anyone have any knowledge of this family? Does anyone know anything of the 4 SHEPHERD families that are listed in Port Alberni? How big is Port Alberni? I have written to the 4 people with surname SHEPHERD in hopes that they may be related. In searching marriages in B.C., can a marriage in the 1940's be searched or is this closed? What about births? If anyone has any answers to my queries or if anyone has any connections, I would love to hear from you. All suggestions are most welcomed. Thanks Janet Lovegrove Brampton, Ontario, janetlovegrove@home.com

Hello i thought i would share this with you all because i found it to be very interesting and exciting on what a fellow researcher found for me please read the message below. Just got off the phone and I believe I have hit your proverbial jackpot. I was talking to a woman who has lived in the Cedar area for a very long time an knows quite a bit about your Quennell/Freethy family. If you can arrange a trip to Nanaimo I can meet you and take you out to see this property and the lady her husband will take us and show us the property that the Quennell farm and butcher shop was on. Apparently most of the property is still farm land and there is no mall on any of it. The road and lake near by was probably named after the Quennell family. Let me know if you can make it down and I will arrange a meeting with this husband and wife to show you around. I can also help you with some of your other postings for other family names that you have recently posted at rootsweb.