To all Family Researchers, Genealogists, Historians and Others:- As Co-Chair of the Canada Census Committee, hoping for the release of the Post-1901 Canadian census records so you and I may be able to complete our family trees, I am happy that The Hon. Allan Rock will be the new Minister of Industry, in charge of census records. Petitions with many signatures keep arriving at my home every day mail day, both for the Senate and for House of Commons. Believe it or not, this is the only PROOF you and I are able to submit -- the signatures are counted when presented, recorded in Hansard. I hope many will write a brief note of welcome to The Hon. Allan Rock, M.P. at Rock.A@parl.gc.ca You do not need to include family facts, just a friendly welcome -- with a BCC to me -- these will be saved in s new folder, already named "Allan Rock". Looking forward to many more petitions -- English, French and from Non-Residents for both Senate and House of Commons. Download your chosen petition from (or I have attachments) http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Petition.htm You may also have to download Adobe Acrobat FREE Should you receive a reply from Mr. Rock or his assistant, please copy to me for his Scoreboard message board. Let's give The Hon. Allan Rock a Canada-wide welcome!! Muriel M. Davidson davidson3542@rogers.com Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee 25 Crestview Avenue, Brampton, ON L6W 2R8 http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index6.htm http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Senscore1.htm

To all Family Researchers, Genealogists, Historians and Others:- As Co-Chair of the Canada Census Committee, hoping for the release of the Post-1901 Canadian census records so you and I may be able to complete our family trees, I am happy that The Hon. Allan Rock will be the new Minister of Industry, in charge of census records. Petitions with many signatures keep arriving at my home every day mail day, both for the Senate and for House of Commons. Believe it or not, this is the only PROOF you and I are able to submit -- the signatures are counted when presented, recorded in Hansard. I hope many will write a brief note of welcome to The Hon. Allan Rock, M.P. at Rock.A@parl.gc.ca You do not need to include family facts, just a friendly welcome -- with a BCC to me -- these will be saved in s new folder, already named "Allan Rock". Looking forward to many more petitions -- English, French and from Non-Residents for both Senate and House of Commons. Download your chosen petition from (or I have attachments) http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Petition.htm You may also have to download Adobe Acrobat FREE Should you receive a reply from Mr. Rock or his assistant, please copy to me for his Scoreboard message board. Let's give The Hon. Allan Rock a Canada-wide welcome!! Muriel M. Davidson davidson3542@rogers.com Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee 25 Crestview Avenue, Brampton, ON L6W 2R8 http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index6.htm http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Senscore1.htm

Hi, Can anyone give me some web sites on researching family history of Japanese Canadians. My in-laws were originally fishers in the Steveston area and relocated in 1942 to the Okanagan. I have contact with others whose ancestors have the same last name and who were in Steveston at the same time but we can't make a connection. They elders were all from the same village in Japan as well. Any help would be appreciated. I have checked out the City of Richmond web page and it is agreat site but isn't of help to me. Thanks in advance Ann

What a fabulous site. Too bad all the provinces couldn't do that. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pam Fairweather Thomson" <pamthom@intergate.ca> To: <CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 5:46 PM Subject: [CAN-BC] New Search Engine option > Hi everyone, > There's a new search engine at the BC Archives online: > http://www.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca:9000/sn-58FCCD5/search > It seems to have some good features- try it out! > Pam > > -- > > > Pam Fairweather Thomson in BC, Canada > *I collect Fairweathers!* > mailto:pamthom@intergate.ca > > > ==== CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA Mailing List ==== > To New Subscribers : The online indexes to British Columbia Vital Records are at > http://www.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/textual/governmt/vstats/v_events.htm#indexes > These records are freely available and there are several possibilities for accessing them at a low cost. > >

Hello everyone Usually I wouldn't ask this, but could svks please go to the BC archives and look up the following two entries for me? I'm a high school student in Victoria, and I simply don't have time to go and look myself, between work experience and homework. I was told my great great uncle died in Victoria (which I didn't know) and the following two seem like possibilities. Arthur Jones was born in Liverpool, Lancashire England about 1885, although I have only found him on one census and don't know for sure. His parents were William (b. Wales 1843) and Catherine (nee Preston, b. Liverpool) Jones. Name: ARTHUR PERCIVAL JONES Event Date: 1956 3 11 (Yr/Mo/Day) Age: 73 Gender: Male Event Place: VICTORIA Reg. Number: 1956-09-003675 B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B13227 GSU Microfilm Number: 2033103 Name: ARTHUR JONES Event Date: 1969 7 30 (Yr/Mo/Day) Age: 80 Gender: Male Event Place: VICTORIA Reg. Number: 1969-09-010613 B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B13298 GSU Microfilm Number: 2034109 Thank you very much! Taryn Jones

Hi everyone, There's a new search engine at the BC Archives online: http://www.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca:9000/sn-58FCCD5/search It seems to have some good features- try it out! Pam -- Pam Fairweather Thomson in BC, Canada *I collect Fairweathers!* mailto:pamthom@intergate.ca

Hello Joyce, Thank you for your reply and offer of help to check the library loan procedure. I appreciate your help! The names I'm searching are confusing but I will post them in case anyone has come across them. This is alot of info I'm providing in case any of it will help someone who may know of records related to their timeframe and locations. Joseph DOBECK is my g-grandfather. He was born in Prussia in 1858 and immigrated to Wilno, Ontario in 1868. He is found in the 1901 census for Cranbrook, BC listed as Joseph Dobeck, born 1864. Josephine BURCHAT, married her first cousin Joseph DOBECK in Oct. 1896 in Pembroke, ON. She was born in 1874 in Wilno, ON but consistently gives her birth as several years earlier. She didn't much like her name and is found as Anna (1901 BC census) and Clara (adopted this after finding a pin with that name and decided that that was the one that she would stick with for life, go figure). Clara DOBECK or DUBECK. This is Josephine BURCHAT. MaryAnn Christianna, aka Anna DOBECK or DUBECK. Born Dec. 1896, Pembroke, ON. She is found on the 1901 BC census listed as Annie DOBECK. Katherine BURCHAT, sister of Josephine. She is found in the 1901 BC census for Cranbrook as Catherine BURKET. The name BURCHAT is pronounced as both "Bur-cat" and "Burk-it" so it is often misspelled. The records that I have are: 1901 BC census, Cranbrook. Shows all the above people. 1903, Frank Alberta - The book, Crowsnest and It's People, has a write up on Joseph DOBECK and mentions the "wife and daughter" not named. It states that the wife died in Frank, but the truth is that she left him and took the child. There is a possible story behind this that some living relatives will not talk about. All I know is that "what Josephine and Katherine did to Joseph is unprintable and broke his heart." I would like to find records that state the name of the wife and child, as well as any further information from the papers. 1903, Frank Alberta - The book, Tragedies of the Crowsnest Pass: The Frank Slide, states that Joseph Dobeck was working in the train shed at the time of the slide. I imagine that there are newspaper articles that detail this record, but I've not located them yet. Sept. 1904 - Nov. 1905 - Convent records. Anna DOBECK is living in a convent in Pembroke, ON. Her aunt Kate BURCHATT is paying her board and is listed as the person responsible for Annie. Kate is living in Barry's Bay, ON. March 1905 - Postcard addressed to Mrs. Clara DOBECK, c/o Mr. Ludlow, Windsor Hotel, Denora (?) Eholt, BC. Sept. 1905 - Feb. 1906 - Convent records. Clara DOBECK is paying the board. Her address is listed as Nelson, BC. Mrs. Clara is listed as the responsible party for Annie DUBECK. June 1906 - Anna is still in the convent. Anna left the convent probably late 1906 to early 1907. Family history states that she went to assist her mother. Clara was working as a cook in the home of a wealthy family and Anna came to work as the babysitter. How long they remained in BC is unknown. The next record that I have is an April 1916 St. Alban's List record of Kate BURCHAT coming to the USA to live with her sister in Washington, USA. The St. Alban's records for Dobeck/Dubeck are on order, although I'm not certain I will find anything. Family history states that they sneaked over the boarder. All US records state that they were born in Minnesota, USA and were French Canadian rather than Polish as they really were. I would appreciate any thoughts on this and suggestions as to where else I might find records on these people. Thanks for reading. Shelly in California. > Hi Shelley, > I'm in Nelson, I don't believe the museum does any interlibrary loans > but I can check with them and with the library here and see what the > archival material is. I know that they do have the local newspaper on > microfilm but don't know how far back it goes. I'm not sure about city > directories. What was your g-grandmother's name? > Joyce Johnson > jaj@netidea.com > >

Hi Joice, send me exactly what you need to know about Joseph Dobeck in early March, sort of the 2nd week or so. I am taking my Cub Pack to Frank slide on March 16th/17th for a sleep over at the Interpretive Center there. We are also going into the Crowsnest Museum. Last time we went the one lady at the Center was very very good. I might be able to get some information or at least see if there is something there, newspaper clippings or so. I'll have my digital camera with me and might be able to get copies. Don't send it now, I know I will forget. Ines At 05:34 PM 15-01-02 -0500, you wrote: >Hello Joyce, > >Thank you for your reply and offer of help to check the library loan >procedure. I appreciate your help! > >The names I'm searching are confusing but I will post them in case anyone has >come across them. This is alot of info I'm providing in case any of it will >help someone who may know of records related to their timeframe and locations. > >Joseph DOBECK is my g-grandfather. He was born in Prussia in 1858 and >immigrated to Wilno, Ontario in 1868. He is found in the 1901 census for >Cranbrook, BC listed as Joseph Dobeck, born 1864. > >Josephine BURCHAT, married her first cousin Joseph DOBECK in Oct. 1896 in >Pembroke, ON. She was born in 1874 in Wilno, ON but consistently gives her >birth as several years earlier. She didn't much like her name and is found >as Anna (1901 BC census) and Clara (adopted this after finding a pin with >that name and decided that that was the one that she would stick with for >life, go figure). > >Clara DOBECK or DUBECK. This is Josephine BURCHAT. > >MaryAnn Christianna, aka Anna DOBECK or DUBECK. Born Dec. 1896, Pembroke, >ON. She is found on the 1901 BC census listed as Annie DOBECK. > >Katherine BURCHAT, sister of Josephine. She is found in the 1901 BC census >for Cranbrook as Catherine BURKET. The name BURCHAT is pronounced as both >"Bur-cat" and "Burk-it" so it is often misspelled. > >The records that I have are: > >1901 BC census, Cranbrook. Shows all the above people. > >1903, Frank Alberta - The book, Crowsnest and It's People, has a write up on >Joseph DOBECK and mentions the "wife and daughter" not named. It states that >the wife died in Frank, but the truth is that she left him and took the >child. There is a possible story behind this that some living relatives will >not talk about. All I know is that "what Josephine and Katherine did to >Joseph is unprintable and broke his heart." I would like to find records >that state the name of the wife and child, as well as any further information >from the papers. > >1903, Frank Alberta - The book, Tragedies of the Crowsnest Pass: The Frank >Slide, states that Joseph Dobeck was working in the train shed at the time of >the slide. I imagine that there are newspaper articles that detail this >record, but I've not located them yet. > >Sept. 1904 - Nov. 1905 - Convent records. Anna DOBECK is living in a convent >in Pembroke, ON. Her aunt Kate BURCHATT is paying her board and is listed as >the person responsible for Annie. Kate is living in Barry's Bay, ON. > >March 1905 - Postcard addressed to Mrs. Clara DOBECK, c/o Mr. Ludlow, Windsor >Hotel, Denora (?) Eholt, BC. > >Sept. 1905 - Feb. 1906 - Convent records. Clara DOBECK is paying the board. >Her address is listed as Nelson, BC. Mrs. Clara is listed as the responsible >party for Annie DUBECK. > >June 1906 - Anna is still in the convent. > >Anna left the convent probably late 1906 to early 1907. Family history >states that she went to assist her mother. Clara was working as a cook in >the home of a wealthy family and Anna came to work as the babysitter. How >long they remained in BC is unknown. The next record that I have is an April >1916 St. Alban's List record of Kate BURCHAT coming to the USA to live with >her sister in Washington, USA. The St. Alban's records for Dobeck/Dubeck are >on order, although I'm not certain I will find anything. Family history >states that they sneaked over the boarder. All US records state that they >were born in Minnesota, USA and were French Canadian rather than Polish as >they really were. > >I would appreciate any thoughts on this and suggestions as to where else I >might find records on these people. > >Thanks for reading. >Shelly in California. > > > > Hi Shelley, > > I'm in Nelson, I don't believe the museum does any interlibrary loans > > but I can check with them and with the library here and see what the > > archival material is. I know that they do have the local newspaper on > > microfilm but don't know how far back it goes. I'm not sure about city > > directories. What was your g-grandmother's name? > > Joyce Johnson > > jaj@netidea.com > > > > > > > > >==== CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA Mailing List ==== >To New Subscribers : The online indexes to British Columbia Vital Records >are at >http://www.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/textual/governmt/vstats/v_events.htm#indexes >These records are freely available and there are several possibilities for >accessing them at a low cost.

Would some SKS find a Obituary for me "PLEASE" whenever they have time ""Marilyn Girling, DOD April 28,1997 in Chillawack,BC"" Thanking You Kindly Bill Pearson

Greetings All. Last night, and this morning, have shown some interesting changes made to our Federal Liberal Cabinet. I thank all who have sent me messages advising of some of these changes, particularly those which might have had an effect on our efforts to regain public access to Historic Census Records. The resignation of Brian Tobin, not just from the Federal Liberal Cabinet but presumably from politics altogether, does not really surprise me as I wondered how long it would be before he quit something again. He served many years as a Liberal MP and member of Cabinet before quitting Federal politics to run for and successfully be elected as Premier of Newfoundland. He quit that to return to Ottawa and was appointed as Minister of Industry without having been elected by the people of Canada. While he was subsequently elected in the general election, and retained his position as Minister of Industry, I find abhorrent the idea of someone not elected by the people being placed in a position of power within the Cabinet of the government. Until this happened with Brian Tobin I had not been aware of this happening previously, but have since learned that it has. We will not miss Mr. Tobin, or cry buckets of tears because of his absence. In our opinion, insofar as our campaign regarding Census is concerned, he abdicated his responsibilities of direction to Statistics Canada. We feel that he never had an original thought regarding access to Census records. When, on the only occasion I am aware of his making a public statement on this issue (release of the Report of the Expert Panel on 15 December 2000), his lips may have moved, but the words were those of Dr. Ivan Fellegi, Chief Statistician of Canada. His refusal to respond to our concerns, or to even acknowledge receipt of our correspondence, was insulting, and resulted in Access to Information requests made for which we are still waiting for the information requested. Being in public service as an elected representative of the people is not an easy task, and certainly takes a toll on family life. I give Mr. Tobin credit for all the years he has served the people, both of Canada, and of Newfoundland, and wish him well in whatever endeavours he takes on from this point forward. I will not, however, miss his lack of direction regarding the Census issue. We view the appointment of the Hon. Allan Rock to the position vacated by Mr. Tobin as a positive move. While Mr. Rock has not provided a definitive answer to the question of his support of access, he has had the courtesy to respond to, or acknowledge receipt of, our correspondence, as did Mr. Tobin's predecessor, John Manley. We are optimistic that Mr. Rock will at least give serious thought to our concerns regarding Census. We look forward to his giving direction to Statistics Canada regarding this matter, rather than simply being a 'front' for Dr. Fellegi. A reminder to all about the importance of attending the Town Hall meetings, either as presenters, or as spectators. We must display a prescence at these meetings to show our support for public access to the Census records. Even if all you do is fill a chair and clap to show support of positive presenters, you will be helping. Statistics Canada surely set up this expensive and unnecessary series of meetings and focus groups hoping to receive negative responses. They must be shown that the only thing negative is their refusal to turn control of the records over to the National Archives, and their so-called 'compromise solution' that is no 'compromise' at all, but a thinly veiled attempt to make access so restrictive as to be little better than no access at all. Another request for all presenters to send me copies of their presentations to place on the Post 1901 Census Project website. I also seek reports from those attending the meetings on their impressions of the proceedings. Please keep us informed. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC Fax 604-942-6843 http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

NEED HELP PLEASE Is it possible to find a registraton death in the 1980's-1990's for BC. Thanking you kindly Bill

Hello listers, My name is Pamela RENNEY Mc Kinley and I am a new member of this list. Am looking for any RENNEY anywhere, My Dad's family are from County Durham, England, and I was born and raised at Aldershot, Hampshire, England and came to Canada as a WW2 bride in 1946, am now a widow and trying to trace my RENNEY roots. The RENNEY family, although quite small, are spread around the world. Have traced my branch back to 1675 so far. Thankyou, Pam.

Hi, I am looking for death registrations for: John Joshua Morris: Registration Number: 1974-09-002391 BC Archives Microfilm #1313330 GSU Microfilm Number 2050285 Helen Morris Reg. Number: 1972-09-003517 B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B13316 GSU Microfilm Number: 2034299 Emma Catherine Rogers Reg. Number: 1934-09-489384 B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B13150 GSU Microfilm Number: 1952856 Florence Lockyer Registration Number: 1934-09-491406 BC Archives Microfilm Number: B13151 GSU Microfilm Number: 1952857 Henry Thomas Lockyer Reg. Number: 1941-09-586855 B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B13171 GSU Microfilm Number: 1953631 Geraldine Ella Lockyer Registration Number 1965-09-008459 BC Archives Microfilm Number B13273 GSU Microfilm Number 2033725 We are fairly new at this but are willing to pay for photocopying and postage. Thanks, Grace

Hello List. I've been lurking here for a couple of weeks and have finally come out of hiding to ask a few questions. I have many BC questions, but I'll try to tackle them little by little. Please bear with this California girl! :-) My g-grandparents were from Ontario but are found in BC in the 1901 census along with my grandmother. They moved to Frank, Alberta just in time for the mountain to come down and sometime afterwards their marriage broke up, with my g-grandfather remaining in Alberta and my g-grandmother dropping my grandmother off in a convent and moving back to BC to work. Based on the convent records between 1904 and 1907, my g-grandmother was living in Nelson and Eholt, BC. My grandmother joined her about 1907 and they remained in BC, location unknown, until they entered the USA in the mid-teens. I'm working on a family history on them for a reunion this summer and would very much like to find records of their time in these two towns. I understand that Nelson has a museum with good newspaper information. . .but do they allow these for interlibrary loan? If not, are copies of these newspapers available elsewhere? What other records are there for this period? City directories perhaps? Regarding Eholt, I realize this was a boom town and is no longer in existence. Was there a newspaper during this period? Are there other records to be traced? If anyone can point me toward records that might help in my search, I'd greatly appreciate it! Thanks kindly, Shelly in California

Hi Shelley, I'm in Nelson, I don't believe the museum does any interlibrary loans but I can check with them and with the library here and see what the archival material is. I know that they do have the local newspaper on microfilm but don't know how far back it goes. I'm not sure about city directories. What was your g-grandmother's name? Joyce Johnson jaj@netidea.com Cltiv8tr@aol.com wrote: > > Hello List. I've been lurking here for a couple of weeks and have finally > come out of hiding to ask a few questions. I have many BC questions, but > I'll try to tackle them little by little. Please bear with this California > girl! :-) > > My g-grandparents were from Ontario but are found in BC in the 1901 census > along with my grandmother. They moved to Frank, Alberta just in time for the > mountain to come down and sometime afterwards their marriage broke up, with > my g-grandfather remaining in Alberta and my g-grandmother dropping my > grandmother off in a convent and moving back to BC to work. Based on the > convent records between 1904 and 1907, my g-grandmother was living in Nelson > and Eholt, BC. My grandmother joined her about 1907 and they remained in BC, > location unknown, until they entered the USA in the mid-teens. > > I'm working on a family history on them for a reunion this summer and would > very much like to find records of their time in these two towns. I > understand that Nelson has a museum with good newspaper information. . .but > do they allow these for interlibrary loan? If not, are copies of these > newspapers available elsewhere? What other records are there for this > period? City directories perhaps? > > Regarding Eholt, I realize this was a boom town and is no longer in > existence. Was there a newspaper during this period? Are there other > records to be traced? > > If anyone can point me toward records that might help in my search, I'd > greatly appreciate it! > > Thanks kindly, > Shelly in California > > ==== CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA Mailing List ==== > Visit the British Columbia Gen Web page at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~canbc/

Greetings all. My apologies for the length of this message. It is the text of a message that I have just sent to Statistics Canada protesting some recent actions relating to the Town Hall Meetings and Focus Groups being held on access to Historic Census Records. It will be interesting to see what response I get. Happy Hunting Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm ======================================= You will recall that on Thursday 29 November 2001 I sent a rather lenthy email communication to Dr. Ivan Fellegi, Chief Statistician of Canada. In this message I expressed a number of concerns relating to the then upcoming Town Hall meetings and Focus Groups. I asked a number of very specific questions requesting very specific answers. While your reply, dated Friday 14 December 2001, on behalf of Dr. Fellegi, did not fully answer my questions I was relatively satisfied with your response -- until now, that is. I am disturbed by communications I have received regarding certain events relating to these Town Hall meetings and Focus Groups. In my message to Dr: Fellegi I asked: ..... What is the criteria for choosing participants of the focus groups? Specifically what questions will be asked of prospective participants, and for what reasons will those contacted not be considered for participation? On what basis will prospective participants be accepted? Your response to this query was as follows: ..... The selection of participants for the focus groups will be done using education as a selection criteria, with one group in each city composed of individual with post-secondary education and the second group composed of those with no post-secondary education. All selections for the focus groups will include a mix of genders, age groups (all 18 years and over), occupation and income, and will follow market research standards for recruitment. The selection will be made by Environics. It would appear that the criteria you stated is not the only criteria for determining participation in these focus groups. The following is a part of an email that I received on Thursday 10 January 2002. "I was invited to attend a focus group this evening at Research House,1867 Yonge Street in Toronto. The topic was to be something "general consumer". At the beginning of the session the facilitator, Chris Roberts, introduced himself as from Environics. He said that he lives in Ottawa and travels around the country conducting focus groups. He then asked all the participants to introduce themselves, saying what they did for a living and what they did for fun. I mentioned my work and then said that my hobby was genealogy or family history. The facilitator then asked whether I belonged to any societies. I said yes, the Ontario Genealogical Society. He then said that he would have to ask me to leave. He accompanied me out and explained in the hallway that the topic was the release of the historic census." I am extremely upset regarding the content of this message. Contrary to the stated purpose of these consultations, i.e. that a broad range of Canadians have an opportunity to express their views on the issue of access to Historical Census Records, the appearance is that there is an attempt to prevent anyone that might have any knowledge whatsoever of Census from participating in these focus groups. This does little to dispell the fears expressed in my letter to Dr. Fellegi that information provided to participants in these endeavours, and the questions asked of them, will be biased so as to elicit negative responses. In addition to the above, I have been advised of individuals seeking to participate in the various Town Hall meetings being refused simply on the basis that they admitted belonging to an organization from which they were told someone else was already booked to make a presentation. This has happened even though there were time slots available. I am advised that in one instance where this happened, there was at least one time slot left vacant for the specific meeting requested. In most provinces there are blanket historical and genealogical societies. These blanket organizations may have many different chapters and people from some of these different chapters may wish to participate. The Ontario Genealogical Society, for example, has dozens of chapters througout the province. In our view it is not justifiable to refuse the participation of an individual who admits to being a member of the OGS simply because there is already a member of the OGS participating. Those requesting to participate could come from chapters on opposite ends of the province, and have very different points to make. While I am on a roll I will voice a few other complaints regarding these proceedings. We are aware of the solicitation by Environics (or Statistics Canada) of certain people to appear and speak at the Town Hall Meetings. Those solicited are individuals that might logically be expected to speak against access, such as privacy advocates and statistical employees of provincial governments. I was personally advised of such solicitation by the privacy consultant and researcher that appeared at the Ottawa meeting. It must have been a shock when he did not speak out against access of 1906 and 1911 Census records. At the Halifax meeting there were two provincial government bureaucrats who spoke. We suspect that both of these individuals were 'invited' to participate. At least one of them thanked the moderator for the invitations to speak. Both, of course, opposed access. They are the only participants of any meeting held to date that opposed access. It is interesting that people expected to be opposed to access are being 'invited' by Environics to participate, while those expected to support it are not. We will be watching with interest to see who, at other meetings, will have been 'invited' to participate. We of course object to the pushing of the unsubstantiated 'promise' and the so-called 'third option' or 'compromise solution' at these meetings. We do not expect, however, regardless of our objections, that anything will change in this regard. In regards the Vancouver meeting, at which I am scheduled to speak, the date originally scheduled was 4 February 2002. The date of this meeting was changed without notification to participants to 30 January 2002. It was only by accident I found out about this change. I wonder how many others granted spots to speak on 4 February have not been notified about the change in date. Environics will not inform anyone who is scheduled to appear until the morning of the meeting. By that time it will likely be too late to inform anyone of the change. I am aware of a number of people intending to travel a great distance to attend these meetings. If any meeting date or time is changed, Environics should be contacting those scheduled to advise them of the change. I will look forward to receiving a response to my concerns from Statistics Canada. Thank you. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

Greetings All I have been living on my computer since my return from Calgary Wednesday night. I have just sent files to add pages to the Post 1901 Census Project website (located at the URL following my signature) that contain reports and presentations of those attending and/or making presentations at the Town Hall meetings being held by Statistics Canada. I expect that they will be loaded to the server sometime Monday. The files sent contain all reports that I have received for the meetings in Ottawa, Halifax, and Toronto. I would suggest that anyone intending to participate in, or observe, the upcoming meetings in other location, should read the reports on these pages to get an idea of what to expect when attending. There are a number of particpants that have not yet sent me a report, or copy of their presentations, and I would request that they do so, so that they may be added to the website and complete the picture of what is going on. My list of projected particpants for the upcoming meetings has a lot of empty space. If you are scheduled to speak at a meeting and have not already done so, please let me know at what meetings you will participate. The tender for contract for these meetings called for seating for up to 100 spectators. Attendance at meetings held to date have had far less than full attendance. As I have observed before, the worst thing that we can do is to have empty slots for presenters and empty seats for observers. I would encourage anyone that is able to attend these meetings and show our interest in regaining public access to Historic Census records. Meetings held so far have all had time for brief comments by members of the audience. You may not feel like making a full presentation but this may give you a chance to express your support in a few short sentences. Presenters should make mention of the following points. -- knowledge of access after 92 years will not lessen participation in Census or trust in Statistics Canada, but withholding of these records might. -- the 'compromise solution' or 'third option' is not acceptable in any way, shape or form. -- thirty years of discussion is enough -- the time has come to act. Either accept Bill S-12 as a government Bill and see it passed into law, or take steps to act on the recommendations of the Report of the Expert Panel on Access to Historic Census Records. Meetings coming up this week are at Fredericton, Charlottetown, and St. John's on the 14th, 16th, and 18th respectively. Lets do our best to fill up all speakers slots and have a full house in the audience. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

Hi Jan, I am out to the Library early tomorrow morning ( Monday) to complete some lookups since I may be away for a while. I can take a look at the following marriage registraiton for you. Birth Date may not be included - perhaps only the age of the bride - and groom. Will you want photo copies - or only information sent via e mail. Will search for obits - if the following appear to be the same family. 1 Groom Name: MARVIN MARTIN BAKER Bride Name: EVELYN FLAMEAU Event Date: 1921 3 15 (Yr/Mo/Day) Event Place: QUESNEL Reg. Number: 1921-09-237044 B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B12907 GSU Microfilm Number: 2032870 1 Name: MARVIN MARTIN BAKER Event Date: 1973 3 14 (Yr/Mo/Day) Age: 78 Gender: Male Event Place: VANCOUVER Reg. Number: 1973-09-004120 B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B13323 GSU Microfilm Number: 2050075 POSSIBLY YOUR EVELYN ???- I will check the death Registration. 1 Name: EVELYN BAKER Event Date: 1976 12 20 (Yr/Mo/Day) Age: 71 Gender: Female Event Place: SURREY Reg. Number: 1976-09-019634 B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B13357 GSU Microfilm Number: 2050570 **Please. Help with the Post 1901 Census Campaign.for Canada. We May Never See the 1906 census for the three Prairie Provinces or the 1911 > Census for Canada. An important issue to others Worldwide who may find they have Genealogy Interests in Canada. Letters and Petitions would be a great help. Letters and Petitions from people outside of Canada are most welcome,perhaps they may even have more impact on this Campaign than those from those from Canadians alone http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Petition.htm http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Download/Noncanpt.pdf http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/index.htm Mail List: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/CAN/CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN.html Happy New Year 2002 Stella Stanger sstanger@sfu.ca Member, Canada Census Committee http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Download/Poster.pdf At 01:49 PM 1/13/02 -0800, J. Baker wrote: >Hello, > > I am in need of the information on a marriage certificate (info below), > which hopefully >contains the brides birthdate and mother's name. I believe she was born >in 1903 in >Fort George, BC, but cannot do an online search for her birth certificate, >as it is not >100 years old yet. If anyone knows another way in which I can get her >birthdate and >mother's name, please email me. I am new to this - if a fee is required >for someone >to do a look-up for me, please let me know. Any suggestions welcomed as well. > >Groom Name: MARVIN MARTIN BAKER Bride Name: EVELYN >FLAMEAU Event Date: 1921 3 15 (Yr/Mo/Day) Event Place: QUESNEL Reg. >Number: 1921-09-237044 B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B12907 GSU >Microfilm Number: 2032870 >Thanks, Jan Baker. > > >==== CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA Mailing List ==== >To New Subscribers : The online indexes to British Columbia Vital Records >are at >http://www.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/textual/governmt/vstats/v_events.htm#indexes >These records are freely available and there are several possibilities for >accessing them at a low cost. >

Hello, I am in need of the information on a marriage certificate (info below), which hopefully contains the brides birthdate and mother's name. I believe she was born in 1903 in Fort George, BC, but cannot do an online search for her birth certificate, as it is not 100 years old yet. If anyone knows another way in which I can get her birthdate and mother's name, please email me. I am new to this - if a fee is required for someone to do a look-up for me, please let me know. Any suggestions welcomed as well. Groom Name: MARVIN MARTIN BAKER Bride Name: EVELYN FLAMEAU Event Date: 1921 3 15 (Yr/Mo/Day) Event Place: QUESNEL Reg. Number: 1921-09-237044 B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B12907 GSU Microfilm Number: 2032870 Thanks, Jan Baker.

Please forgive me if this is not the correct list for this posting. I am searching for the descendants of Arie Jacobus Johannes Tuit and Johannes Marinus Tuit who were born in Antwerp, Belgium in 1852 and 1856 respectively. They had a brother Jacobus Marinus Tuit who emigrated to South Australia c. 1868 - he was born in Antwerp, Belgium in 1854 (he is my husband's great grandfather). Parents Jacobus Tuit and Johanna Maria Catharina Kruijt married Scheveningen, Zuid Holland, Netherlands, 1850. The father was a teacher. This family moved to Antwerp and then the father died at the age of 34 years leaving the mother and the 3 young boys. I do not know as to whether she remarried or not. Arie Tuit ventured to Panama and worked for the Pacific Steamship Navigation Company c. 1880 - 1886 and also for the Panama Railway Company c. 1886 >. He married a woman by the name of Dolores and the had at least 3 children - Henry Jacob, Johanna and another born in 1888. There may have been more later on. Johanna was killed in a freak accident. The family, minus the father, had gone to the island Naos in the Bay of Panama for a day out to visit friends and she had walked through an open French door and fallen some way to the ground. She was only a toddler This was in 1884. This is about all the information that I have on this family as the letters end 1888. There was a mention of Johannes in the letters but no one knew where he was or what his fate was. If anyone knows anything of this family I would dearly like to be in touch with you or if you can pass this onto any Tuits that you may know I would be very grateful. With thanks. Regards Leonie Tuit Perth, Western Australia Tel/Fax: (+61 8) 9291-6539 Mobile: 0409 839 405 Email: tuminco@iinet.net.au ______________________________