That's an interesting bit of information! Very sad how some of these women are recorded! Unfortunately our Agnes never married. Joanne -----Original Message----- From: Pam Fairweather Thomson [SMTP:pamthom@intergate.ca] Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 10:11 AM To: CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CAN-BC] BC Vital Stats Hi -- Another thing I noticed the other day is that there are a large number of deaths where the wife has only the first name Widow! I happened to be searching for a name and put in the partial name "wid". A rather sad way for these women to be listed.

Hi! Was your Agnes, in fact, an aboriginal person? If so, I have some pointers that may help. If she was, was it from a Band in the Alert Bay area? I know there are several Cook families there, and know of one descendant who is doing genealogical research. Candy-Lea Chickite Member of the Cape Mudge Band Subject: [CAN-BC] BC Vital Stats > I understand that there were time frames in BC when various person s (such > as Aboriginals or Indians) were excluded from registration. That may > explain why I can't find our Agnes who died in November 1916. If they were > not recorded with Vital Stats during that time frame, were they recorded > elsewhere? Is there any way to look for those excluded time frames? Many > thanks if anyone knows! > Joanne > > ______________________________

I am trying to connect with any members of the JEFFERIES family in British Columbia, since two of my wife's grandfather's siblings are thought to have moved to bC in either very late 1800s or early 1900s. They were Jack [=?John] JEFFERIES and Jemima JEFFERIES, who is thought to have married either a WIN[D]SOR or a PARNELL. They were both born in Exploits in Newfoundland in the later 1800s, and their parents were Thomas JEFFERIES and Jane LANGDON. I have extensive information about two other brothers, George and Stewart JEFFERIES that I can share with anyone interested. I look forward to any help you can provide Chris Christopher G Amos, SOMAC Phone: 709 673 4782 12 Fosters Road Fax: 709 673 2792 Springdale NF A0J 1T0

Hi Another thing I noticed the other day is that there are a large number of deaths where the wife has only the first name Widow! I happened to be searching for a name and put in the partial name "wid". A rather sad way for these women to be listed. There are 8 of them, I see, as I search the index for them. http://www2.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/cgi-bin/www2vsd Just to get them into the list's archives and in case they may solve a mystery for someone - not Joanne because the earliest is 1919- I'll list them here: 1 Name: WIDOW DOTMA Event Date: 1919 1 30 (Yr/Mo/Day) Age: 60 Gender: Female Event Place: MUDDY RIVER Reg. Number: 1919-09-003509 B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B13359 GSU Microfilm Number: 1983209 2 Name: WIDOW DISQUIDA Event Date: 1920 5 15 (Yr/Mo/Day) Age: 82 Gender: Female Event Place: MUDDY RIVER Reg. Number: 1920-09-004945 B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B13359 GSU Microfilm Number: 1983209 3 Name: WIDOW HENIO Event Date: 1925 1 3 (Yr/Mo/Day) Age: 54 Gender: Female Event Place: TELEGRAPH CREEK Reg. Number: 1925-09-009980 B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B13360 GSU Microfilm Number: 1983210 4 Name: WIDOW CATLAN Event Date: 1932 4 9 (Yr/Mo/Day) Age: 90 Gender: Female Event Place: TELEGRAPH CREEK Reg. Number: 1932-09-016481 B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B13362 GSU Microfilm Number: 1983212 5 Name: OLD WIDOW PRETTY Event Date: 1938 1 2 (Yr/Mo/Day) Age: 81 Gender: Female Event Place: MCDAMES CREEK Reg. Number: 1938-09-022036 B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B13374 GSU Microfilm Number: 1983214 6 Name: WIDOW QUOCK Event Date: 1938 10 31 (Yr/Mo/Day) Age: 76 Gender: Female Event Place: DRYTOWN Reg. Number: 1938-09-022584 B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B13374 GSU Microfilm Number: 1983214 7 Name: WIDOW HONEY JOE Event Date: 1941 10 22 (Yr/Mo/Day) Age: 99 Gender: Female Event Place: TELEGRAPH CREEK Reg. Number: 1941-09-025504 B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B13375 GSU Microfilm Number: 1983215 8 Name: WIDOW DAVY Event Date: 1944 4 24 (Yr/Mo/Day) Age: 89 Gender: Female Event Place: WARE Reg. Number: 1944-09-028228 B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B13375 GSU Microfilm Number: 1983215 Pam kiwicanucks@canada.com wrote: > > I see you didn't indicate your Agnes' surnames. Did you try doing a search for Agnes as a "partial match" for the given name and leaving the last name blank? You can put in a month and year, too. There were 4 Agnes ladies who d. in Nov 1916. Three had middle names, so did not come up when just putting in Agnes just as an exact match for the given name. > > On Sat, 09 February 2002, Joanne or Larry Peterson wrote: > > I understand that there were time frames in BC when various person s (such > > as Aboriginals or Indians) were excluded from registration. That may > > explain why I can't find our Agnes who died in November 1916. If they were > > not recorded with Vital Stats during that time frame, were they recorded > > elsewhere? Is there any way to look for those excluded time frames? Many > > thanks if anyone knows! > > Joanne > > ----- > Canadian surnames: King, Niblock, Hanton, Kenny, Hamilton > ----- > > __________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE personalized e-mail at http://www.canada.com > > ==== CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA Mailing List ==== > To New Subscribers : The online indexes to British Columbia Vital Records are at > http://www.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/textual/governmt/vstats/v_events.htm#indexes > These records are freely available and there are several possibilities for accessing them at a low cost. -- Pam Fairweather Thomson in BC, Canada *I collect Fairweathers!* mailto:pamthom@intergate.ca

I have tried 'everything' including looking at every young female who died within about a 10-year age span thinking the name was simply mis-spelled, or something! But no luck! Her name was Agnes Bridget Cook, born July 9, 1897 and died in 1916 (May 30 or November 30?). She shows on one census record as Bridget Cook. Her bible shows her name as Agnes B. Cook. Joanne -----Original Message----- From: kiwicanucks@canada.com [SMTP:kiwicanucks@canada.com] Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 8:03 AM To: joannepeterson@shaw.ca Cc: CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CAN-BC] BC Vital Stats I see you didn't indicate your Agnes' surnames. Did you try doing a search for Agnes as a "partial match" for the given name and leaving the last name blank? You can put in a month and year, too. There were 4 Agnes ladies who d. in Nov 1916. Three had middle names, so did not come up when just putting in Agnes just as an exact match for the given name.

I see you didn't indicate your Agnes' surnames. Did you try doing a search for Agnes as a "partial match" for the given name and leaving the last name blank? You can put in a month and year, too. There were 4 Agnes ladies who d. in Nov 1916. Three had middle names, so did not come up when just putting in Agnes just as an exact match for the given name. On Sat, 09 February 2002, Joanne or Larry Peterson wrote: > I understand that there were time frames in BC when various person s (such > as Aboriginals or Indians) were excluded from registration. That may > explain why I can't find our Agnes who died in November 1916. If they were > not recorded with Vital Stats during that time frame, were they recorded > elsewhere? Is there any way to look for those excluded time frames? Many > thanks if anyone knows! > Joanne ----- Canadian surnames: King, Niblock, Hanton, Kenny, Hamilton ----- __________________________________________________________ Get your FREE personalized e-mail at http://www.canada.com

I understand that there were time frames in BC when various person s (such as Aboriginals or Indians) were excluded from registration. That may explain why I can't find our Agnes who died in November 1916. If they were not recorded with Vital Stats during that time frame, were they recorded elsewhere? Is there any way to look for those excluded time frames? Many thanks if anyone knows! Joanne

Hi List I have a death that is too recent to be listed in the archives, and I am hoping that someone would be kind enough to see if they could find an obit for me. DOROTHY MARTHA ANDREWS, died April 25, 1986, in Vancouver, BC. Thank you Pat Ontario --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Orillia ProNet with Delcude AntiVirus]

Hi Gail Take a look at the following site http://visit-vancouverisland.com/ It is a "Big Island" , 12,000 square miles, 62 mile wide, 282 miles long. Bus service outside of the major cities and towns varies greatly, if you plan to travel to many parts of the island you might want to consider renting a car part of the time See also http://victoriabc.com/ http://www.AccommodationsBC.com/vancouverisland/ http://www.tourismmall.victoria.bc.ca/ Many hotels/motels have rooms with Kitchenettes so you can make breakfast/cook simple meals.etc: Do some basic research on these sites and then come back with your questions, several members of this list live on the island. I am sure that they will be able to give you advice once you know the questions. Regards David On Fri, 08 Feb 2002 15:11:25 -0800, Pam Fairweather Thomson wrote: >This is a message from Gail who was not a subscriber. I've added her to >the list but it may look like it's come from me, so watch that you reply >to her (Gail) and not me (Pam). >From: Gail Griffin <gig@ihug.co.nz> > > >My husband's Mother l was born and lived in Victoria , although my >husband was born in the West Indies -later in her life. We have called >in there for one day a side trip from Vancouver >several year s ago >We now wish to come over (from New Zealand) to stay several weeks. Are >there / is there bus services around the Island? We wish to do a lot >of walking but staying in one town for 3 or >4days then moving on. Are there self cater accommodations available - >any links or tips wpould be gratefully received. We will come in your >Spring or Your Autumn this year >Many thanks in anticipation >Gail Griffin >Mount Eden >Auckland >New Zealand > > >==== CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA Mailing List ==== >Every two months or so, please repost your interests, >telling us what you know and where you've looked >and what you still need to find out. >

Hi Shannah What sort of information are you looking for ? See the maps at http://www.kootenay.org/ http://www.okanagan.com/map/ http://www.britishcolumbia.com/Maps/ See also http://www.okanaganhistoricalsociety.org/ Regards David On Fri, 8 Feb 2002 19:13:27 -0800, Shannah Griggs wrote: >Hello, Listers! > >I was wondering, if, SKS knows of a map of B.C. that shows the region borderlines to where the OKANAGON, KOOTENAY areas lie, please? > >Thank you. > >Shannah > > >==== CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA Mailing List ==== >Every two months or so, please repost your interests, >telling us what you know and where you've looked >and what you still need to find out. >

Hi Shannah, Give the following URL a try and see if it's what you want. I think so: http://www.bcstats.gov.bc.ca/data/pop/maps/RDMap.htm It's titled Regional Districts of British Columbia - 1996 Boundaries They're all nicely numbered and named and can be downloaded for either Portrait or Landscape printing and in PDF format. Ron Davies Surrey, BC > > I was wondering, if, SKS knows of a map of B.C. that shows the region >borderlines to where the OKANAGON, KOOTENAY areas lie, please? > > > > Shannah

I don't understand what you are looking for. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shannah Griggs" <twiss_griggs@uniserve.com> To: <CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 7:13 PM Subject: [CAN-BC] TWISS family > Hello, Listers! > > I was wondering, if, SKS knows of a map of B.C. that shows the region borderlines to where the OKANAGON, KOOTENAY areas lie, please? > > Thank you. > > Shannah > > > ==== CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA Mailing List ==== > Every two months or so, please repost your interests, > telling us what you know and where you've looked > and what you still need to find out. > >

Hello, Listers! I was wondering, if, SKS knows of a map of B.C. that shows the region borderlines to where the OKANAGON, KOOTENAY areas lie, please? Thank you. Shannah

This is a message from Gail who was not a subscriber. I've added her to the list but it may look like it's come from me, so watch that you reply to her (Gail) and not me (Pam). From: Gail Griffin <gig@ihug.co.nz> My husband's Mother l was born and lived in Victoria , although my husband was born in the West Indies -later in her life. We have called in there for one day a side trip from Vancouver several year s ago We now wish to come over (from New Zealand) to stay several weeks. Are there / is there bus services around the Island? We wish to do a lot of walking but staying in one town for 3 or 4days then moving on. Are there self cater accommodations available - any links or tips wpould be gratefully received. We will come in your Spring or Your Autumn this year Many thanks in anticipation Gail Griffin Mount Eden Auckland New Zealand

Databases available to members of Vancouver Public Library <http://www.vpl.vancouver.bc.ca/extDB/dbListing> It's not particularly well publicized, but the Vancouver Public Library makes a number of searchable databases available to its members via the Internet. All you need to access the databases is your Vancouver Public Library card number and the last four digits of the phone number you gave when you signed up as a member (usually your home phone). The URL above gets you to the Library's sign-in page. There are quite a few databases, but some of the ones of interest to genealogy, along with their descriptions from the site's home page, include (my comments in square brackets): BIOGRAPHY AND GENEALOGY MASTER INDEX Indexes current, readily available reference sources, as well as the most important retrospective works that cover individuals, both living and deceased, from every field of activity and from all areas of the world. [Search for a person's name, and you get a list of specific citations of the publications where that name appears, not the information itself.] CANADIAN ALMANAC AND DIRECTORY  A compilation of approximately 47,000 listings that appear in the print version of the Canadian Almanac & Directory. Includes images, statistical tables and miscellany. CANADIAN BUSINESS AND CURRENT AFFAIRS. CBCA Fulltext Reference and CBCA Fulltext Business provide access to over 200 fulltext Canadian magazines and newspapers and citations to over 750 more. Also includes some U.S. and international publications. CANADIAN NEWSDISC Fulltext articles from Canadian newspapers. [Note that the newest articles are about two months old.] CANCORP FINANCIALS Canadian corporate financial information. Search by company names, ticker symbols, description, officers, SIC codes and more. CONTEMPORARY AUTHORS Find detailed information about authors, including personal data, writings, media adaptations and further readings. EBSCO MAGAZINE ARTICLES On-line full-text magazine articles, summaries or citations ELIBRARY PLUS Full-text articles from magazines, newspapers & reference books. ENCYCLOPEDIA OF BRITISH COLUMBIA The online version of the encyclopedia published by Harbour Publishing. NEW YORK TIMES Full-text articles from January 1999. Indexing and citations from 1989 forward. ***** Peter Morgan

Hi Chris. Please excuse the delay in responding to your message. My initial thoughts regarding your query were to direct you to the National Archives and the website for obtaining Attestation Papers for those serving in the CEF of WW I. You have obviously already availed yourself of those sources. Unfortunately, at this time we have no access to Canadian Census records past 1901, and unless our campaign to have things changed is successful, we will never see another Census in Canada made available to the public. I have every hope that we will succeed. Until such time, however, those records are not available. Should we succeed, the 1911 Census of Canada should be available in 2003. Best thing that I can suggest is to join the British Columbia mail list and post your queries there. You might find someone to check his presence in Vancouver through some of the City directories of the time. To join this mail list send a message to CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA-L-request@rootsweb.com with only the word "subscribe" (without the quotation marks) in the subject line and body of the message. I have copied your message to the BC List and you may have responses from others reading it. I wish you luck in your search. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "cnmwds" <cnmwds@netscapeonline.co.uk> To: <gordon_watts@telus.net> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 11:44 PM Subject: re: Tracing Ancestor Dear Mr. Watts, I saw your reference to the Canada Census Committee and wondered whether you might be able to advise me or offer suggestions in my search for information about an uncle who lived briefly in Vancouver around 1909-1912. My only direct reference to him being in Vancouver was that from Canadian Archives who kindly sent me a copy of his military record and Attestation papers: he enlisted with the 29th. Battalion British Expeditionary Force in Vancouver, having already served with the 72nd. Seaforth Highlanders of Vancouver for 2 years. He was born in Brighton, England 14. January 1893. He enlisted with the 29th. Battalion on 14th. November 1914 at the age of 19, and with 2 years previous attachment to the 72nd 'Highlanders of Vancouver, I think he must have immigrated (alone) to Canada between 1909 and 1912. The records of passenger lists are too great to search and so I wondered whether there may be any census record of him in Vancouver between 1909 and 1914 in which I might be able to find some reference to him. He did not marry and died of wounds in France in 1917. Unfortunately I am unable to budget for professional researches (he was one of eight) and so any suggestions of where I could continue searching would be most appreciated, thank you for your time, Chris Woods retired mariner, Norfolk England

Good morning, have you checked www.bibliofind.com, or www.abebooks.com? I found a whole lot of books in either one of those two. Ines At 08:03 PM 05-02-02 -0800, Jennifer (Chidlow) Lewis wrote: >Greetings, >Would anyone kindly offer some advice as to where I could find and purchase >the following book: > >Biographical Dictionary of well-known British Columbians >Kerr, J. B. (John Blaine) >444 pages. >(Vancouver : Kerr & Begg, 1890.) > >I realize that the book can be found online: >(http://www.canadiana.org/cgi-bin/ECO/mtq?id=8b08e4c302&doc=15438), >but would really like to purchase it for my family. > >Thanks in advance, >Jennifer Lewis >Richmond, BC > > >PS - this site has many online books! You can search by surname. >http://www.canadiana.org >I found much information about my ancestors from this site. > > >==== CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA Mailing List ==== >Every two months or so, please repost your interests, >telling us what you know and where you've looked >and what you still need to find out.

Go to www.abebooks.com do a search and there are at least two copies available, Good Luck Jacquie Nex ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennifer (Chidlow) Lewis" <jensgenealogy@shaw.ca> To: <CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 8:03 PM Subject: [CAN-BC] Book: "Biographical Dictionary of well-known British Columbians" > Greetings, > Would anyone kindly offer some advice as to where I could find and purchase > the following book: > > Biographical Dictionary of well-known British Columbians > Kerr, J. B. (John Blaine) > 444 pages. > (Vancouver : Kerr & Begg, 1890.) > > I realize that the book can be found online: > (http://www.canadiana.org/cgi-bin/ECO/mtq?id=8b08e4c302&doc=15438), > but would really like to purchase it for my family. > > Thanks in advance, > Jennifer Lewis > Richmond, BC > > > PS - this site has many online books! You can search by surname. > http://www.canadiana.org > I found much information about my ancestors from this site. > > > ==== CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA Mailing List ==== > Every two months or so, please repost your interests, > telling us what you know and where you've looked > and what you still need to find out. >

Greetings, Would anyone kindly offer some advice as to where I could find and purchase the following book: Biographical Dictionary of well-known British Columbians Kerr, J. B. (John Blaine) 444 pages. (Vancouver : Kerr & Begg, 1890.) I realize that the book can be found online: (http://www.canadiana.org/cgi-bin/ECO/mtq?id=8b08e4c302&doc=15438), but would really like to purchase it for my family. Thanks in advance, Jennifer Lewis Richmond, BC PS - this site has many online books! You can search by surname. http://www.canadiana.org I found much information about my ancestors from this site.

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