Hello, Listers! I was wondering, Claudia Cole might be able to reply to this message, please? Thank you so much. Shannah twiss_griggs@uniserve.com

Greetings All. It appears that I have been remiss in not updating all regarding what is happening with our legal action to obtain a 'writ of mandamus' to force Statistics Canada to transfer control of the 1906 Special Census of the Western Provinces (Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba) over to the National Archivist. While I have provided information regarding this in my last couple of columns for the Global Gazette, I have neglected to post it to the lists. Because of requests to do so, I provide that update to the lists now. The situation to date is as follows: On 8 February 2002, our lawyer in Calgary, Lois Sparling, processed an 'Application for a Judicial Review' with the Federal Court. Lois, and the other lawyers assisting her, felt that an Application for a Judicial Review would be a faster method of achieving our goal than the court action originally contemplated. The defendants served with this Application were Dr. Ivan Fellegi - Chief Statistician of Canada; George Radwanski - Privacy Commissioner; Ian Wilson - National Archivist; John Reid - Information Commissioner; and the Attorney General of Canada. All of the defendants have filed Notices of Appearance. While this Application named Ian Wilson and John Reid as defendants, it is known that both of them have supported public access to Historic Census Records. The Attorney General is named as a defendant in any actions against the Government or any of it's departments. The Application names eleven plaintiffs from various places in Canada. Those plaintiffs have all sworn Affidavits stating their reasons for seeking access to the 1906 Census records. and those Affidavits were presented during the last week of February 2002. The next thing to happen is for the defendants to submit their Affidavits. Lois advises that the Privacy Commissioner and the Information Commissioner each have their own lawyers while the Attorney General of Canada, the Chief Statistician and the National Archivist are all being represented by the Department of Justice. It is not known at this time how long this procedure will take, but we hope to have results in a matter of months, rather than the possible years that the alternate court action could have taken. While this Application refers only to the 1906 Census, it is expected that it will set the precedent for obtaining access to at least the 1911 and 1916 Census, and likely all subsequent Census as well. The reason only the 1906 Census is mentioned is that it is the only one that has passed the 92 year period after which it should have been released (in 1998). As I understand it, a writ of mandamus is good only for something that has already happened (or not happened) and cannot be used for future violations. It should be noted that this is a parallel action to our collection of signatures on petitions, and writing to our elected and appointed representative to seek support for access to these most important records. Petitions and letters are especially important at this time when Bill C-312 is expected to be debated in the House of Commons in early April, and Bill S-12 is currently receiving Third Reading in the Senate. All are encouraged to write their own MPs and Senator's if they have not already indicated their support for access. The Scoreboards on the Post 1901 Census Project Website (at the URL following my signature) are pretty well up to date with known positions of MPs and Senators. Please check the positions shown for your representatives, and if you have correspondence from them that shows a position for them different from that shown, forward that correspondence to me so that the Scoreboard might be updated. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted.

Hello, I just joined this list a few days ago and have noticed that some people do look ups. I would like to get copies of b/m/d information I have found on the B.C. Archives website. Is there someone willing to do this and what is it, exactly, that will be photocopied, what is the cost? Please excuse my ignorance, just learning. Also please tell me what SKS stands for. Thanks for helping me. Lesley Anderson

Hi obit is probably in NS Shopper or Express...I'll check for it on my way home if Library is open. btw Princess is in the District of North Van. about 4 long blocks east of Lonsdale...in the Upper Lonsdale area. Warburton is familiar to me...I lived on the next street...perhaps she was on my son's paper route back in 1973. Pam, you mentioned not so long ago about either index or vital stats regs m/f not being where they should be up at SFU...was up there on Wed and found marriage index where it should not have been...put it in the "to file basket" and hope it gets filed in the right spot... regards Viv in North Van ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pam Fairweather Thomson" <pamthom@intergate.ca> To: <CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [CAN-BC] Cecily HATCHER and Annie WARBURTON (?) > Hi Maureen, > This may be Annie's death: > Name: Annie Warburton Place North Vancouver > Reg. Number: 1973-09-014018 > Date: 1973 10 14 (Yr/Mo/Day) > Age: 87 > Microfilm #: B13327 (GSU # 2050140) > > I can get this for you, although not immediately. I just did a "run" to > the library so may not go again for a couple of weeks. > > Is it Cecily or Cicely, do you know? She probably lived on Lonsdale > Avenue in North Vancouver. > Try some searches here if you have a possible last name for her. > http://www.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca:9000/sn-809CBC/bsearch > > Don't order the online image- it's very expensive, let one of us > volunteers get a photocopy. > Pam > > Doug Durrant wrote: > > > > Dear Listers, > > > > I'm looking for descendants of my mother's cousin, whose maiden name was Cecily HATCHER. She was born about 1915 to Thomas and Annie HATCHER, who emigrated to Canada from UK. They lived in Sturgeon Creek, Manitoba and Thomas served with Fort Garry Horse in WW1 until he was killed in 1918. Annie remarried to someone called WARBURTON (?). > > Cicely lived at Princess Ave, North Lonsdale, B.C., in 1930, and I believe she trained as a dietitian or nutritionist, possibly at Winnipeg. She apparently married a medical doctor, who may have been of Dutch descent. > > > > My mother's name, by the way, is Joan Lavinia BRADLEY, nee HATCHER. > > > > If anyone can help, I shall be most grateful. > > > > Yours hopefully, > > Maureen Durrant. > > > > ==== CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA Mailing List ==== > > Visit the British Columbia Gen Web page at > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~canbc/ > > -- > > > Pam Fairweather Thomson in BC, Canada > *I collect Fairweathers!* > mailto:pamthom@intergate.ca > > > ==== CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA Mailing List ==== > To New Subscribers : The online indexes to British Columbia Vital Records are at > http://www.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/textual/governmt/vstats/v_events.htm#indexes > These records are freely available and there are several possibilities for accessing them at a low cost. > >

Would SKS do a lookup for Maud Ethel JOHNSON Reg.1971-09-005770, Mic. B13309 , GSU 2034217, Died 19710402 I believe she was the wife of my grandfather' s brother (Albert Edward JOHNSON). Thank you , Marilyn in Ontario

Hi Shannah, It was Nunn and Thompson - Check some of the Registrations that I have sent to you . If they are mentioned - their address should be there. They are no longer in the telephone book There are many that are no longer around. Or - may have been taken over by another company. Cheers, Stella At 10:55 PM 3/1/02 -0800, Shannah Griggs wrote: >Hello, Listers! > >I was wondering, if SKS would, please, give me the full name of this >particular funeral place in Vancouver--NUNN &......... I have forgotten >their name--dah! And, also, please, send me their e-mail/website. > >Thank you very much. > >Shannah > > >==== CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA Mailing List ==== >Every two months or so, please repost your interests, >telling us what you know and where you've looked >and what you still need to find out. >

Maybe Nunn & Thompson ?? There is no listing for them in the current (well close to curent) telephone directory. Roberta Case rcase@connected.bc.ca ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shannah Griggs" <twiss_griggs@uniserve.com> To: <CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 10:55 PM Subject: [CAN-BC] TWISS family > > Hello, Listers! > > I was wondering, if SKS would, please, give me the full name of this particular funeral place in Vancouver--NUNN &......... I have forgotten their name--dah! And, also, please, send me their e-mail/website. > > Thank you very much. > > Shannah > > > ==== CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA Mailing List ==== > Every two months or so, please repost your interests, > telling us what you know and where you've looked > and what you still need to find out. > >

Hi Maureen, This may be Annie's death: Name: Annie Warburton Place North Vancouver Reg. Number: 1973-09-014018 Date: 1973 10 14 (Yr/Mo/Day) Age: 87 Microfilm #: B13327 (GSU # 2050140) I can get this for you, although not immediately. I just did a "run" to the library so may not go again for a couple of weeks. Is it Cecily or Cicely, do you know? She probably lived on Lonsdale Avenue in North Vancouver. Try some searches here if you have a possible last name for her. http://www.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca:9000/sn-809CBC/bsearch Don't order the online image- it's very expensive, let one of us volunteers get a photocopy. Pam Doug Durrant wrote: > > Dear Listers, > > I'm looking for descendants of my mother's cousin, whose maiden name was Cecily HATCHER. She was born about 1915 to Thomas and Annie HATCHER, who emigrated to Canada from UK. They lived in Sturgeon Creek, Manitoba and Thomas served with Fort Garry Horse in WW1 until he was killed in 1918. Annie remarried to someone called WARBURTON (?). > Cicely lived at Princess Ave, North Lonsdale, B.C., in 1930, and I believe she trained as a dietitian or nutritionist, possibly at Winnipeg. She apparently married a medical doctor, who may have been of Dutch descent. > > My mother's name, by the way, is Joan Lavinia BRADLEY, nee HATCHER. > > If anyone can help, I shall be most grateful. > > Yours hopefully, > Maureen Durrant. > > ==== CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA Mailing List ==== > Visit the British Columbia Gen Web page at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~canbc/ -- Pam Fairweather Thomson in BC, Canada *I collect Fairweathers!* mailto:pamthom@intergate.ca

I don't think there is such a funeral home. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shannah Griggs" <twiss_griggs@uniserve.com> To: <CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 10:55 PM Subject: [CAN-BC] TWISS family > > Hello, Listers! > > I was wondering, if SKS would, please, give me the full name of this particular funeral place in Vancouver--NUNN &......... I have forgotten their name--dah! And, also, please, send me their e-mail/website. > > Thank you very much. > > Shannah > > > ==== CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA Mailing List ==== > Every two months or so, please repost your interests, > telling us what you know and where you've looked > and what you still need to find out. > >

Hello, Listers! I was wondering, if SKS would, please, give me the full name of this particular funeral place in Vancouver--NUNN &......... I have forgotten their name--dah! And, also, please, send me their e-mail/website. Thank you very much. Shannah

To all: Now the Olympics are over and I am "almost" pleased with Canadian results -- however, there is a next time -- looking forward to my gr.granddaughter being one of the skating team! Now, we must work! Recently, the Globe and Mail provided us with the URL of an online survey, only available until March 1, 2002. It is being conducted by the National Archives of Canada and what we would like to have available from the Archives. Click on the URL and complete -- your name and address is not requested, only part of postal code::- http://accessible.archives.ca This survey was but one item in an impressive supplement section of the Globe and Mail newpaper of Saturday 16 February 2002. This supplement contains much information about the National Archives of Canada and plans in the works for a "Canadian Genealogy Centre". Perhaps one of the most interesting lines in this supplement was in an article titled "Digitization: A Transformation for the National Archive". This line stated "To meet the insatiable national and international demand for genealogical infromation, the returns from the 1901 Canadian Census will soon be available online, free of charge." This is indeed welcome news. Welcome also is the news that online access to these records will be free of charge, unlike the online access for the records of England, Wales, and Scotland, and the commercial enterprizes offering digitized returns in the United States. Please complete your questionnaire -- even if you have done so before. Two articles are available and will forward if one contacts me privately. Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee 25 Crestview Avenue, Brampton, ON L6W 2R8 http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/ en français http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Index_f.htm --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.312 / Virus Database: 173 - Release Date: 12/31/01

Hi Stella, Thanks- you always have such good ideas! Marlinna said she'd look it up, thanks. And Blair checked the website. And Ines volunteered to check it on her holidays! ( I got a request from the RAOGK, even though I don't list obit lookups as my volunteer contribution. I wasn't feeling too organized, so I just sent off a message to see if anyone could find it for him.) I should have known the people on the list would help out in many different ways! :-) I can't tell you how many times I've heard from people who say this is a great bunch of people! Thanks! RAOGK sent a disturbing message today, saying that they suspect that some professional researchers are getting the RAOGK volunteers to look up information and then turning around and charging their clients for it.! I'm sure this is a very rare thing and will try not to let it make me suspicious. I feel a Desiderata quote coming on! :-) "Exercise caution in your business affairs, for the world is full of trickery. But let this not blind you to what virtue there is; many persons strive for high ideals, and everywhere life is full of heroism ." Pam Stella Stanger wrote: > > Hi Pam, There is a volunteer at Random acts - who does Public Record s > etc - in Kelowna - perhaps you can get in touch - and obtain some help. > http://www.raogk.org/bcolumbia.htm > OR: > Contact the Public Library for Kelowna - They should have copies of the > papers - hard copy - or microfilm -Most librarians are very helpful - if we > don't overwhelm them with requests. > Have you contacted the Newspaper - the obit is not that long ago - perhaps > they will do a lookup. > I noticed that they have current obit online - haven't checked to see if > there is an archive. > http://www.ok.bc.ca/archive/2002/02/27/classifieds/10.html > http://www.ok.bc.ca/contact.html > I think we also have listmembers in Victoria - They could probably search > the papers at the Provincial Archive > As well - U.B.C. apparently has many [all] newspapers - if someone is > researching there - they may take a look at the obit for you. I haven't > visited there yet - it takes to long by bus. > otherwise I would offer. > Cheers, Stella > > At 02:03 PM 2/26/02 -0800, you wrote: > >Hi, > >Is there anyone on the list who can look up an obit from March 2000, in > >the Kelowna Daily Courier? > >Pam > >-- > > > > > > Pam Fairweather Thomson in BC, Canada > > *I collect Fairweathers!* > > mailto:pamthom@intergate.ca > > > > > >==== CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA Mailing List ==== > >Check the list's archives out at > >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/CAN/CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA.html -- Pam Fairweather Thomson in BC, Canada *I collect Fairweathers!* mailto:pamthom@intergate.ca

Hi All I'm searching for information about a cousin of mine, once removed, whom I believe was teaching in Mission in the early 1940s. She was reported as living in Mission at the time of her father's death in Regina in 1941. The person I seek is Margaret Helen Vanderburgh. I knew Margaret back in the 30s but lost touch with her thereafter. At that time she was teaching in Sault. Ste. Marie, ON. Somewhere along the way, I also stumbled upon info that indicated she may have taught in Abbotsford. She was born in 1909, probably in Indian Head, SK to where her father emigrated from Ontario and where he and Margaret's mother are buried. I can find no record of a marriage or death. When I knew her, she was unmarried and in her 20s. I can see her face in front of me as I type. Is there any list user in the Fraser Valley, who might have a look at Mission and Abbotsford school archives...perhaps even other Fraser Valley districts. I know I'm dart boarding. Does anybody know of accessible archives of BC teachers through the years and that's indexed? I welcome all suggestions or assistance. Thanks all Ron Davies Surrey, BC

Hi Pam, I don't live in Kelowna, as you know but I will be there over the Alberta Springbreak, visiting my parents. I'll be willing and able to go to the Daily C. and do the lookup. I hope my brain thawed out by then. Ines At 02:03 PM 26-02-02 -0800, Pam Fairweather Thomson wrote: >Hi, >Is there anyone on the list who can look up an obit from March 2000, in >the Kelowna Daily Courier? >Pam >-- > > > Pam Fairweather Thomson in BC, Canada > *I collect Fairweathers!* > mailto:pamthom@intergate.ca > > >==== CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA Mailing List ==== >Check the list's archives out at >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/CAN/CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA.html

Hi Ken Have lost the thread and point of your query...but, the East side of Boundary is Burnaby...the West Side is Vancouver... Were you able to establish the date of purchase? If this home is in Burnaby and has heritage designation, you should be able to get info and photos from the City of Burnaby, thru the City Clerk to the Heritage Commission. (I haven't checked, but this info may be on their website). If you need any help in navigating Municipal Hall...let me know. regards Viv in Vancouver Hope this helps. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Coburn" <kcoburn@telus.net> To: <CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 6:40 PM Subject: [CAN-BC] Land > Thanks a lot Joan for getting my east and west unsolved, I guess I am getting old. It is on the EAST side of Boundary on the Burnaby side. > We lived in that house for 5 years, my bedroom was upstairs facing the west, I guess I spent to many evenings watching the sunset in the west. > Thanks again Ken. > > > > > > > > ==== CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA Mailing List ==== > Every two months or so, please repost your interests, > telling us what you know and where you've looked > and what you still need to find out. > >

Thanks a lot Joan for getting my east and west unsolved, I guess I am getting old. It is on the EAST side of Boundary on the Burnaby side. We lived in that house for 5 years, my bedroom was upstairs facing the west, I guess I spent to many evenings watching the sunset in the west. Thanks again Ken.

Thank you Stella! At this point, I don't believe that the Cater family is related to mine, although it is certainly possible that, assuming this was a home or smaller boarding house, Charlotte CATER may have cared for my Uncle Francis BURCHAT, for the period after she left BC for Washington State, USA. At this point, I still have not located the date of his crossing into the USA, so I am most interested in knowing what kind of building was standing at 2250 Pine St. Vancouver, BC in 1915/16. Should you come across anything in your search that might answer this question, I would be most appreciative! Thank you for your kind help. Shelly > Hi Shelly - Just some very basic info re the following > MARRIAGE: > CATER, Andrew - age 26 years - bachelor - occupation Constable. > Address: 2250 Pine Street, - Vancouver > Born: Winnipeg, Manitoba - > Parents: George James Cater - occupation - Carpenter > Charlotte Loftus - > JOHNSON,Ada May - age 23 - Spinster - occupation: Teacher > Address: 1057 Broadway - Vancouver > Born: St. John New Brunswick > Father: John Peter Johnson - Millwright. > Delphine Baillor. > Baptist - > Married at 826 - 34th Avenue - E. Vancouver - by rite of Presbyterian > Church. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------------------- > DEATH: > CATER, Charlotte - Born May 10, 1864 - Ireland - Parents: Rbt. Dennis > Loftus - born Ireland - Mother : Charlotte McGuiness - Ireland. > Address at time of death: 725 Kaslo Street - [ East Vancouver ] > Informant: George James Cater - 725 Kaslo Street - husband. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------- > DEATH: > CATER, Andrew - Born Winnipeg Man - Parents: George CATER - born England > ; Charlotte LOFTUS [McGuiness] born Ireland. > Occupation: Machinist. > Spouse : Not Known. > Place of Death - Riverview Hospital - Essondale. > Informant: Committal Papers - Riverview /Essondale Hosp. > Cause of Death: Cardiac Arrest - Coronary Occlussion - T.B. Anal Fistula. > > I will be at the library - perhaps today - or at least one day this week. > Waiting for the insurance adjuster. and will check out the Pine street > address. > RE: Ada May Cater - wife of Andrew - there is no reference to a death reg.. > Cheers, Stella > > > Hi Shelly. > I may be able to take a look through the City Directories for that time > frame in the next couple of days, I need to go out to the Passport > office in Surrey, hopefully will not spend another 3 1/2 hrs waiting again. > As far as the 2250 Pine Street Address - I don't drive - but occasionally - > my brother takes me to a movie in that area - across town from where I > live. we could have a look at that time unless someone else offers. > That whole area - had been undergoing great changes - with many new > townhomes and condo's being built. There are still some of the older homes > - and older apartment buildings standing. If I can borrow my son's camera > - and the building is still standing - I could take a photo - no promises. > It appears that a Charlotte Cater passed away in 1930: > 6 > Name: CHARLOTTE CATER > Event Date: 1930 4 20 (Yr/Mo/Day) > Age: 65 > Gender: Female > Event Place: VANCOUVER > Reg. Number: 1930-09-436306 > B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B13138 > GSU Microfilm Number: 1952650 > There is also a Death Registration in the 1960's for > 13 > Name: ANDREW CATER > Event Date: 1965 10 22 (Yr/Mo/Day) > Age: 69 > Gender: Male > Event Place: ESSONDALE > Reg. Number: 1965-09-013870 > B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B13274 > GSU Microfilm Number: 2033798 > 1 > Groom Name: ANDREW CATER > Bride Name: ADA MARY JOHNSTON > Event Date: 1918 1 11 (Yr/Mo/Day) > Event Place: SOUTH VANCOUVER > Reg. Number: 1918-09-190979 > B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B11389 > GSU Microfilm Number: 1984110 > *PLEASE. HELP WITH THE :POST 1901 CENSUS CAMPAIGN .for Canada. > We May Never See the 1906 -1911 > Census for Canada. > An important issue for Canadians and others Worldwide who may find they > have Genealogy Interests in Canada. > Letters and Petitions would be a great help. > Letters and Petitions from those outside of Canada - are Extremely > Helpful - > perhaps more so than from Canada Alone. > http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/index.htm > http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Download/Poster.pdf > Mail List: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/CAN/CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN.html > Happy New Year 2002 > Stella Stanger sstanger@sfu.ca > Member, Canada Census Committee > > > > > > > > > > >

Audrey, HMCS Naden is a Canadian navy shore establishment (not a ship) located near Victoria, BC. The cemetary there has burials from all military services. CSM is an army rank - Company Sergeant Major, which was a senior non-commissioned rank. I'm not sure of the rules for being included in the CWGC record, maybe it is restricted to those who died as result of direct enemy action. He may have died in peacetime. Ken in Ontario ----- Original Message ----- From: "Audrey Kent Wilson" <aukele@maui.net> To: <CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 3:36 AM Subject: [CAN-BC] EVANS > Aloha Listers: > > While looking for some information about the death of John Vivian > Despigny Evans in Vancouver in 1988 I found a reference for Harold John > Vivian R. Evans, CSM, who is buried in Veterans, Old Naval Section, > Vancouver Island. The HMCS Naden was his ship. The reference for the > cemetery is VGS 488. > > Questions: > > I cannot retrieve the reference, fortunately I copied the info. Does > anyone have the cemetery transcription? Am I barking up the wrong tree > in thinking that Harold might be John Vivian's son? Why isn't Harold > listed on the CWGC site? What does CSM mean? HELP! > > Many thanks > Audrey on Maui in the Hawaiian Isles > > ______________________________

Hi My name is Lyn and I am new to the list. I wonder if SKS could please look at two Death registration records for me. The details I have are Vital Event Death Registration Name: Adelaide Whiteman Event Date: 1946 2 20 (Yr/Mo/Day) Age: 79 Gender: female Event Place: Slocan Valley Reg. Number: 1946-09-004262 B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B13190 GSU Microfilm Number: 2032422 Call Number: 1935-09-500500 / Roll b13153 is Vital Event Death Registration Name: Kenneth Whiteman Event Date: 1935 5 22 (Yr/Mo/Day) Age: 34 Gender: male Event Place: Essondale Reg. Number: 1935-09-500500 B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B13153 GSU Microfilm Number: 1953017 I am hoping they are my family from England. Thanks Lyn In wet and windy Sussex

Hi, Is there anyone on the list who can look up an obit from March 2000, in the Kelowna Daily Courier? Pam -- Pam Fairweather Thomson in BC, Canada *I collect Fairweathers!* mailto:pamthom@intergate.ca