Allen Frank S. Bowell and Sons records from 1941 to 1950 are on line at the New Westminster Public Library see the page at http://www.nwheritage.org/heritagesite/genealogy/index.htm Regards David On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 22:56:53 -0000, Frank W wrote: >I believe some of BOWELL's records are searchable on -line. Try Google >for more info - (search on Bowell funeral) >Regards > >Frank W > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "David Fancy" <David_Fancy@telus.net> >To: <CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 10:16 PM >Subject: Re: [CAN-BC] Royal Oak Woodlawn Cemetery -New Westminister > > >> Hi Allan >> >> This is the name of the Funeral Directors NOT the Cemetery >> >> >> Royal Oak WoodLawn - Bowell >> 219 6th Street >> New Westminster >> V3L 3A3 >> >> 604-521-4881 >> >> They could be buried in any of the cemeteries in the area, the company >> should be able to tell you where. Ask for a copy of the record, they >> may list the Obit or the papers where it was inserted >> >> Regards >> David >> >> On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 15:56:37 -0800, Alan Campbell wrote: >> >> >I was given the information that some family members were buried in Royal >Oak Woodlawn Cemetery in New Westminister. Does such cemetery exist? I could >not find it listed on BC business finder. >> >Alan >> > >> > >> >==== CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA Mailing List ==== >> >To New Subscribers : The online indexes to British Columbia Vital Records >are at >> >http://www.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca:9000/sn-301BDDB/bsearch >> >These records are freely available and there are several possibilities >for accessing them at a low cost. >> > >> >> >> >> >> ==== CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA Mailing List ==== >> Every two months or so, please repost your interests, >> telling us what you know and where you've looked >> and what you still need to find out. >> > > >==== CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA Mailing List ==== >Visit the British Columbia Gen Web page at >http://www.rootsweb.com/~canbc/ >

I was given the information that some family members were buried in Royal Oak Woodlawn Cemetery in New Westminister. Does such cemetery exist? I could not find it listed on BC business finder. Alan

Hi Allan This is the name of the Funeral Directors NOT the Cemetery Royal Oak WoodLawn - Bowell 219 6th Street New Westminster V3L 3A3 604-521-4881 They could be buried in any of the cemeteries in the area, the company should be able to tell you where. Ask for a copy of the record, they may list the Obit or the papers where it was inserted Regards David On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 15:56:37 -0800, Alan Campbell wrote: >I was given the information that some family members were buried in Royal Oak Woodlawn Cemetery in New Westminister. Does such cemetery exist? I could not find it listed on BC business finder. >Alan > > >==== CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA Mailing List ==== >To New Subscribers : The online indexes to British Columbia Vital Records are at >http://www.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca:9000/sn-301BDDB/bsearch >These records are freely available and there are several possibilities for accessing them at a low cost. >

Hello, Listers! I was wondering, if SKS would, please, send me the e-mail/website on SALT SPRING ISLAND for the local museum and lib., plus, anything else you might think I would be interested? Is there a website for B.C. on Land Grants, also, please? Thank you so much. Shannah

Hi Judy, Sorry I can't help. I do a number of lookups - and have found that the older ones - in the time frame of interest - are usually very sparse. Many even if filmed - are extremely difficult to read - and because they are so faint - do not print well, I have lost a number of dollars over time - attempting to get even a fairly readable print.- usually with 0 success - but a lot of extra notepaper. Do you know where Valentine STRAUBE and Mary KOLONOSKY - were married ? Kolonosky appears to be a Polish name - which leads to a possible R.C. ceremony. When doing lookups for these early marriages - I have found that the majority appear to take place at a residence rather than in a church. The information - found will have the name of the Groom - age - marital status - occupation - religion. name of parents - occupation of the father. Name of the bride - age - marital status - occupation - religion - name of parents - including maiden name of mother if known - name of minister - place of marriage. I can't remember if regs that early show names of witnesses. Death Registrations - and births of children - may prove more helpful - although the early births are also quite sparse as far as personal information contained. I found the following - including a death reg for Christina - nothing for Mary. If you like, I can take a look at the follwoing to see what information is contained - the marriage between Valentine A. Anch Christina - may show Valentine as a widower . I visit the library - quite often - it will not be out of my way - to take a look at these regs for you., it only takes a few minutes - once I manage to get the film and a reader. Perhaps Query -Vital Stats about the $50.00 fee - since this information would fall into the PUBLIC RECORD AREA - the charge may just be the $19.00 fee charged for Vital Events - records.that are deemed Public Record. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------ YOUR VALENTINE STRAUBE ? - The Death Registration for the year 1967 - will have far more personal information than that found on the the Marriage Registration for 1897. Name - date and place of death. Date and place of death - name of spouse - name of parents -place of birth of parents - occupation - length of time at occupation - previous occupation. How long in municipality - how long in Province - how long in Canada (Information required varies over time ] Name and address of informant - relationship to deceased - Cause of death - name and address of Funeral Director /Home - place of burial /cremation - or !. The death registration is the least accurate of registrations - since most of the information depends on the knowledge of the informant - [spouses and children are sometimes not very knowledgeable about some of the personal info about the deceased] Name: Valentine Anthony Straube Event Date: 1967 5 7 (Yr/Mo/Day) Age: 78 Gender: male Event Place: North Vancouver Reg. Number: 1967-09-006253 B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B13283 GSU Microfilm Number: 2033859 IS IT POSSIBLE THAT YOUR VALENTINE STRAUBE - is the FOLLOWING - perhaps a 2nd marriage ????? Groom Name: Valentine A Straube Bride Name: Christina M Heughan Event Date: 1910 9 14 (Yr/Mo/Day) Event Place: Vancouver Reg. Number: 1910-09-062426 B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B11375 GSU Microfilm Number: 1983703 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- CHILDREN OF VALENTINE ANTHONY STRAUBE???? Birth Registratins - for these early times - are very sparse - but should have the parents names - although many do not. Name: James Straube Event Date: 1897 11 27 (Yr/Mo/Day) Gender: male Event Place: Vancouver Reg. Number: 1897-09-118815 B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B13812 GSU Microfilm Number: 2134882 Name: Hilda Mary Straube Event Date: 1899 8 29 (Yr/Mo/Day) Gender: female Event Place: Vancouver Reg. Number: 1899-09-119373 B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B13815 GSU Microfilm Number: 2134885 Name: Urslua Frances Straube Event Date: 1900 8 17 (Yr/Mo/Day) Gender: female Event Place: Vancouver Reg. Number: 1900-09-121361 B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B13816 GSU Microfilm Number: 2134806 ------------------------------------------------------- PLEASE ! HELP ! - The CANADA CENSUS CAMPAIGN - We may never see the Release of the 1906 - 1911 > CENSUS for CANADA - Important for ANYONE researching their Family Genealogy . Your Brick Wall may have Emigrated. http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/index.htm http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Petition.htm http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Sample.htm http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/canada-census-campaign Stella Stanger sstanger@sfu.ca Member, Canada Census Committee At 08:50 AM 3/18/02 -0700, elista wrote: >Hi List, > >I'm hoping SKS will be able to do a marriage look-up from 1897, that is >not filmed. I had sent about 10 various look-up requests to the BC >Genealogical Society and they sent back all but one. It only has a Reg. #. >Would anyone out there be able to do the look-up in Victoria for me? I >don't know if Vancouver would have it. It may just be a church record, I >don't know. B.C Vital Stat's wants $50.00 to do the look-up. BCGS was much >more reasonable. > >The information is: > >STRAUBE, Valentine and KOLONOSKY, Mary, married 16th of February, 1897. >Reg.# - 1897-09-900201, not filmed, no GSU. > >I appreciate your help in this matter. > >Thanks, Judy >Blackfalds, Alberta >elista@telusplanet.net > > > >==== CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA Mailing List ==== >Visit the British Columbia Gen Web page at >http://www.rootsweb.com/~canbc/

Judy: I think getting a look at this marriage document is going to be a problem. "Not Filmed" What this means, is for some reason the registration form was not microfilmed, and is therefore unavailable to the general public. The file only exists in the hands of the BC Vital Statistics Agency. And as you know, they charge a high price to do lookups. So your only hope, other than paying the $50 to BC Vital Statistics, is to try for a search of church records in the city where the marriage took place. If you already know the religion of the bride or the groom, this may help, but I have often seen marriage records that show the religion of the officiating clergyman is NOT the same as either the bride or the groom. There would be a lot of churches in the Vancouver area, even at that early date. Searching for the church record is likely to be a long, involved process. You could begin by trying to find out the address of the couple, or the address of the bride's parents prior to the wedding date. The BC City Directories of the late 1890's, Vancouver section, might show the families listed as living in Vancouver, and fortunately, the surnames are not very common, so you can probably find out who was the right person, and the directory would give the exact street address. Then you'd find out what neighbourhood that street was in, and try to find out what churches existed in that neighbourhood, though you can't be sure they got married in that neighbourhood. And it's possible one or both of them lived in a different city, but came to Vancouver for the ceremony, so it's not even a sure thing that you will find the families' names in the directories. Tracking down the records of the church would take a bit of work too. Many churches no longer exist, and in any case, most churches have sent their records to some central archives for their denomination. Several Protestant denominations have records at the University of British Columbia, Dept of Theology; Catholic records are sent to the Diocesan Archives for their area, as are Anglican records. All in all, your best bet may be to pay the $50 to Vital Statistics, depending on how important it is to your overall research, to have this document. Possibly in the future, this record may appear in newly-released microfilms. I understand that one of the reasons for documents not being filmed, is that they are part of a group of later records, and they will appear at the date when those later records become (in the case of marriage records) 75 years old, and releasable to the public. Claudia Claudia Cole Independent Research Agent 304 - 1960 Lee Avenue Victoria BC V8R 4W8 Canada -----Original Message----- From: elista [mailto:elista@telusplanet.net] Sent: March 18, 2002 7:51 AM To: CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CAN-BC] Help with non-mico-filmed marriage - STRAUBE/KOLONOSKY Hi List, I'm hoping SKS will be able to do a marriage look-up from 1897, that is not filmed. I had sent about 10 various look-up requests to the BC Genealogical Society and they sent back all but one. It only has a Reg. #. Would anyone out there be able to do the look-up in Victoria for me? I don't know if Vancouver would have it. It may just be a church record, I don't know. B.C Vital Stat's wants $50.00 to do the look-up. BCGS was much more reasonable. The information is: STRAUBE, Valentine and KOLONOSKY, Mary, married 16th of February, 1897. Reg.# - 1897-09-900201, not filmed, no GSU. I appreciate your help in this matter. Thanks, Judy Blackfalds, Alberta elista@telusplanet.net ==== CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA Mailing List ==== Visit the British Columbia Gen Web page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~canbc/

No, that wouldn't be the right form. W.C.B. is a provincial program for starters. What you need is an authorization form from your clients, authorizing you to act on their behalf. (And you could ask your MLA's constituency assistant for a copy of their standard authorization form and make up a similar one) To get information from either level of government you are still going to need your client's signature requesting the information. With an authorization form though you can get information over the phone or have the requested information sent to you. With W.C.B. the best people to contact are the W.C.B. Ombudsman's office at 604-276-3053. Peter Hopkins is the Ombudsman and for cases that fall within his mandate he has a very quick turnaround time. His secretary (Vi, as I remember) is also an excellent and helpful person. There are about five others working there and all are good. You do know that if this is a long distance number you can call through Enquiry BC and be connected free. The number for the Lower Mainland is 604-660-2421. For elsewhere look in the blue pages in your telephone book. They will connect you for free with ANY provincial government number in the province, including colleges, etc. Working on W.C.B. issues is very tough work. Good luck! Joan Fisher----- From: "Shannah Griggs" <twiss_griggs@uniserve.com> To: <CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 8:17 PM Subject: [CAN-BC] TWISS family > Hello, Listers! > > I have just been given a couple of answers to my request on Freedom of Info. Request Forms. > > What I wanted was this: If we were going to be your advocate and help you get the proper amount of monies, etc., say, from W.C.B., we would need a Federal Freedom of Info. Request Form to do the work for you. Does this make sense to any of you? What you have to do is give us permission by filling out the Form and we would make copies of that and send them into whomever we write. > > Hope this helps! :) > > Thank you. > > Shannah > > > ==== CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA Mailing List ==== > Check the list's archives out at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/CAN/CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA.html >

Hi List, I'm hoping SKS will be able to do a marriage look-up from 1897, that is not filmed. I had sent about 10 various look-up requests to the BC Genealogical Society and they sent back all but one. It only has a Reg. #. Would anyone out there be able to do the look-up in Victoria for me? I don't know if Vancouver would have it. It may just be a church record, I don't know. B.C Vital Stat's wants $50.00 to do the look-up. BCGS was much more reasonable. The information is: STRAUBE, Valentine and KOLONOSKY, Mary, married 16th of February, 1897. Reg.# - 1897-09-900201, not filmed, no GSU. I appreciate your help in this matter. Thanks, Judy Blackfalds, Alberta elista@telusplanet.net

Looking for Obituary for John NICKLE, who died in Abbotsford, BC within the last couple of weeks or so. Thank you. Dick

Hi Shannah The W.C.B. is a Provincial Body and as such should be governed by the Provincial Act, applying to the Federal Office does not make any sense. There is no requirement to use a specific form , either Federally or Provincially - BUT the request must be made in written form. If you are submitting a request for another person you will have to provide proof that they have authorized you to act as their representative The Federal Office has a site that may help you at http://www.infocom.gc.ca/faq/default-e.asp#FAQ0 Regards David On Sun, 17 Mar 2002 20:17:51 -0800, Shannah Griggs wrote: >Hello, Listers! > >I have just been given a couple of answers to my request on Freedom of Info. Request Forms. > >What I wanted was this: If we were going to be your advocate and help you get the proper amount of monies, etc., say, from W.C.B., we would need a Federal Freedom of Info. Request Form to do the work for you. Does this make sense to any of you? What you have to do is give us permission by filling out the Form and we would make copies of that and send them into whomever we write. > >Hope this helps! :) > >Thank you. > >Shannah > > >==== CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA Mailing List ==== >Check the list's archives out at >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/CAN/CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA.html >

Hi Shannah. In Canada the act is called the Access to Information Act rather than Freedom of Information. The forms you seek are are the government Infosource pages locate at twiss_griggs@uniserve.com If you scroll down near the bottom and click on "Forms for ATIP Coordinators" the resulting page will have the forms you seek. Provincially, in British Columbia you can access the main Governement of British Columbia website at http://www.gov.bc.ca/ Click "Search" and on the resulting page search for "Access to Information" This results in more links than you could desire. It would appear that provincially there are a number of different ATI forms depending on what department you are dealing with. I will leave it up to you to search out what you want. On a different subject, I see a great many postings from you and find many of them interesting. Many of them, however, I pass over because of the subject line. All postings of yours that I have seen have the same subject, i.e. TWISS family. I wish, however, that you would use subject lines that have some relevance to the topic of the message. I would be more inclined to have a look at them. Have a great day and Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shannah Griggs" <twiss_griggs@uniserve.com> To: <CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 9:42 PM Subject: [CAN-BC] TWISS family > Claudia and Listers; > > This is a non-genealogical question and I was wondering, if you would, please, be so kind as to help me with this problem. > > I am trying to find the forms----on-line--for the Freedom of Informaiton Act "consent Forms" for trying to help people. My husband and I are advocats for people who are having probs. with Welfare, W.C.B., whatever. > > If anyone could help this would be greatly appreciated even if you can give me a website, too! :) > > Thank you so very much! > > Shannah

Hello, Listers! I have just been given a couple of answers to my request on Freedom of Info. Request Forms. What I wanted was this: If we were going to be your advocate and help you get the proper amount of monies, etc., say, from W.C.B., we would need a Federal Freedom of Info. Request Form to do the work for you. Does this make sense to any of you? What you have to do is give us permission by filling out the Form and we would make copies of that and send them into whomever we write. Hope this helps! :) Thank you. Shannah

Hi Shannah Try this site, it has links to several FOI related pages http://www.mser.gov.bc.ca/FOI_POP/ There is a PDF file of the application [that you can print from your browser] at http://www.mser.gov.bc.ca/FOI_POP/TT_Manual/pdf_docs/Sec6_AccessRequestForm.pdf this line may wrap so you will probably need to type it in Regards David On Sun, 17 Mar 2002 18:42:53 -0800, Shannah Griggs wrote: >Claudia and Listers; > >This is a non-genealogical question and I was wondering, if you would, please, be so kind as to help me with this problem. > >I am trying to find the forms----on-line--for the Freedom of Informaiton Act "consent Forms" for trying to help people. My husband and I are advocats for people who are having probs. with Welfare, W.C.B., whatever. > >If anyone could help this would be greatly appreciated even if you can give me a website, too! :) > >Thank you so very much! > >Shannah > > >==== CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA Mailing List ==== >Visit the British Columbia Gen Web page at >http://www.rootsweb.com/~canbc/ >

Claudia and Listers; This is a non-genealogical question and I was wondering, if you would, please, be so kind as to help me with this problem. I am trying to find the forms----on-line--for the Freedom of Informaiton Act "consent Forms" for trying to help people. My husband and I are advocats for people who are having probs. with Welfare, W.C.B., whatever. If anyone could help this would be greatly appreciated even if you can give me a website, too! :) Thank you so very much! Shannah

May be forwarded to groups, friends and other lists To all readers and especially genealogical societies:- Signatures on Petitions are needed NOW -- we all want the release of the Post-1901 Canadian Census Records -- I know I do! The following figures are only for this week, ending March 15, 2002 -- hopefully next week's total will be reversed! Petitions are accepted from those with Canadian roots living outside of Canada -- and this week -- TOTAL NON-RESIDENT ==== 215 --------------------------------------- SASKATCHEWAN:- Heather Canevaro, Viscount, Saskatchewan>>>>>>>>>>>16 ONTARIO:- Sharon Kiewiel, London, Ontario>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5 Global Genealogy - store customers Rick Roberts, Milton, Ontario>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. 31 NOVA SCOTIA:- P. B. Huddleston, Shelburne, Nova Scotia>>>>>>>>>>>>>28 Dyan Matheson, Oxford, Nova Scotia>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 34 TOTAL CANADIAN SIGNATURES === 114 Very possibly the above numbers speak louder and say it better than I could -- attachments are available -- just contact me at muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Also, Gordon Watts has just sent petition updates for loading. Petitions are downloadable from http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Petition.htm Hopefully the day will soon come when my mailman complains about the TONS of mail I am receiving -- he is already very interested and keeps both petitions available -- but not while working -- Canada Post might not like it! Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Brampton, Ontario -- formerly Liverpool, Nova Scotia --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.330 / Virus Database: 184 - Release Date: 2/28/02

Greetings All. Files have just been sent to update the Post 1901 Census Project website. Scoreboards have been updated with five new Gold Ticks of support for access to Historic Census records. These have been posted for Senators Jean-Robert Gauthier (ON), Wilfred Moore (NS), and Roch Bolduc (PQ). MPs receiving them are Julian Reed (ON) and Benoit Sauvageau (PQ). New pages have been added, in both english and french, to deal with our Application for a Judicial Review. Links have been added to enable easy subscription to the Canada Census Campaign mail list. On another subject: It has now been 30 days since Environics Research Group was to submit their Report on the Town Hall Meetings and Focus Groups held for Statistics Canada. There has been no indication to date of any intention by Statistics Canada or the Minister responsible to make that Report available to the public. Therefore, by the time you read this I will have mailed my Access to Information Request for that Report to Statistics Canada. Statistics Canada will have 30 days from receipt of my ATI request in which to respond. By law, they must either produce the Report or, if it is intended to publish the Report within 90 days, they can refuse my request on that basis. We are not prepared to wait seven months for this Report as we had to do for the Report of the Expert Panel. We see no reason why it cannot be released immediately, either with, or without comment. The Report of the Expert Panel was made available on day 89 of the 90 day period within which they were required by law, because of my ATI request to do so. Happy Hunting Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted.

Hi listers; I am researching my wife's grandfather John Glasgow Robertson. Around 1931 or 1932 he went to the Sunrise Valley area near Dawson Creek apparently to homestead. Prior to this time he had lived in Foremost, Alberta and in 1894 had homesteaded near Moose Jaw, Sask. I have a copy of the Letters Patent for the Moose Jaw land from the National Archives. This appears to be the only land under his name. When John went north he left his wife and family in Foremost. Can SKS direct me where or how I can get more details on John's movements in the Dawson Creek area? Many thanks for your help. Malcolm Shaw - Calgary, Alberta

Hi fellow listers - I saw Shannah's posting and would like to update my email address. It is now taylormmm@shaw.ca I am able to do look-ups for the Penticton area, in the Penticton newspapers and at the local museum. Please feel free to contact me if I can be of any help. Jennifer Taylor

Ma'am, I have forgotten you name, and know that you are researching the RICHTER family. Please, refer to my OKANAGAN OBITS--the 2nd one with LAUTARD, Mary Bernice, dated Feb. 16, 2002, PENTICTON WESTERN. It is the second to the bottom Obit. There is a mention of a Frances RICHTER in it for your information. Good luck! :) Shannah Jennifer TAYLOR is willing to do some lookups for anyone who is researching PENTICTON, B.C. Her addy is: jennifertaylor@telus.net.

Marriage Watson Coverdale (Rev.) Nichols Mary 1881 HS:III,198 Death Watson Coverdale (Mrs. Rev.) 1927.08.27 74 Boundary Bay, WA Tim 1927.08.29 06 Watson Coverdale (Rev.) 1898.02.21 51 New Westminster, BC HS:III,198 I found this information on the BC Genweb website. Would I be able to obtain this information? How would I go about doing so? Helen Smith