Hi I am new to this list and would like help with Uncle John Ernest Brown. He married my Aunt in London England 1944 and he was a widower He was born in Glasgow Scotland in 1883 A cousin visited him in Dawson Creek in the 1960's He died in Cumberland England in abt 1980. Is there anyone on the list who could find anything out about John Ernest Brown and his wife Dorothea Lucy Brown (known usually as Lucy) while they were in Dawson Creek. Thanks in advance for any help you might be able to give. Helen

> How 'old' are you talking, and what parts of BC? 50s-60s mostly but I would love to have information about the beginnings up until today. and my focus is on BCs north and Vancouver Island but it would be interesting to read about the rest too. thanks gundula

Carol, You did not give the names or ages of the children so not sure if any of these are who you may be looking for but a number of Churcher's born London signed up in Canada for WW1 their papers can be viewed on line at: http://www.collectionscanada.ca/02/02010602_e.html Only 2 listed on the B.C. Cemetery Finding Aid: http://www.islandnet.com/cgi-bin/ms2/rsd/search Good luck Carol Hello, I am looking for information on the CHURCHER family who emigrated to British Columbia between 1901-1909. The family comprised of ROBERT JOHN, his wife AMY ELIZABETH (nee ROBERTS) and 8 of their children. If anyone is researching CHURCHER from BATTERSEA, LONDON, then I would love to hear from them! Any help on researching them would also be appreciated, as I have only found 8 on the Vital Records Index, and I can only place one of them!! Thank you Carol Chapman Sussex, England ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca

Hello, I am looking for information on the CHURCHER family who emigrated to British Columbia between 1901-1909. The family comprised of ROBERT JOHN, his wife AMY ELIZABETH (nee ROBERTS) and 8 of their children. If anyone is researching CHURCHER from BATTERSEA, LONDON, then I would love to hear from them! Any help on researching them would also be appreciated, as I have only found 8 on the Vital Records Index, and I can only place one of them!! Thank you Carol Chapman Sussex, England p.s. willing to do a census look up for Sussex in return (1861,1871,1891 or 1901)

I know this is short notice but thought I would put it out there anyway. I am going to St. Luke's tomorrow and will have my digital camera with me. Anyone wishing photos of any of the head stones there please email me your particulars and I will do my best to find and take photos for you. No charge. Just trying to pay back a similar kindness that was awarded to me. Elizabeth in Nanaimo, BC [email protected]

Hello List, I am wondering if there is a kind soul who has the transcript for the Royal Oak Burial Park, section O Victoria VGS-ROBP-Mrk? I am looking for COOPER, Margaret E, died April 20, 1954. I would love a photo of this tombstone as well and will cover costs. Any help greatly appreciated and I thank you in advance. Tracy Toronto, Ontario

Hello List, I am wondering if some kind soul happens to have the transcript for the Mountain View Cemetery Vancouver, Fraser Str. ref BCGS-C-62 looking for COOPER, Frederick. He died January 15, 1965, I have his death cert. Is anyone able to get to this cemetery and get a photo of this tombstone for me?? I will cover any costs. Thank you in advance for your help, Tracy Toronto Ontario

Once again, our list has been extremely helpful! Thanks so much for all the ideas on tracking this 100th birthday date down. We finally did! Mr. Ken Bradley, co-author of " Powell River's railway era : an account of the eighteen individual railways operating at various times in the era from the middle 1890's until 1954", turned 100 yesterday! He was a great teacher who inspired all of us with an interest in history that we have never lost. Thanks for helping us with this special quest! Pam Pam Fairweather Thomson Sechelt, BC, Canada [email protected]

It depends on what type of information you are looking for, whether you're going to get what you need. I don't know whether your interest is academic research or personal family history. Lots exists that COULD help, for the BC logging industry. There must be lots of books written on the logging business in BC, and I've read a couple myself, over the years, and even assisted one man in researching to write the story of his family which owned a logging company. (book not written yet) Joe Garner wrote a book "Never a Time to Trust", I believe about behind-the-scenes manipulations in the logging industry and government. I think his other books "Never Chop Your Rope" and "Never Fly Over an Eagle's Nest" might tell something about about his own times in the industry.Gordon Gibson wrote about his life as one of the biggest and wildest logging company entrepreneurs. "Bull of the Woods" I think he called it. These are memoirs, not historical fact, but give you some colour. If you are looking for information on particular small old companies, you can find their legal incorporation papers and annual reports in the BC Archives. If you are looking to find out about just one company, it would cost you 30 dollars to get the papers from BC Archives, but if you want to look into a lot of these, you'd have to do the research yourself. There are also masses of government records related to the government royalties for the timber cut, and wonderfully descriptive reports, with maps, about the lands assessed for their value as timber lands. These can take quite a while to search, and I'm sure are a wealth of information for anyone doing academic research on the industry. They can also sometimes give you a pretty good picture of where the work of a particular company over the years. And the BC Sessional Papers have forestry reports every year. You never know what personal information you may find in there. Besides the written report giving an overview and highlights of the industry for each year, they have detailed financial reports that contain, for instance, names of persons they paid on contract, and names of suppliers. Held at BC Archives on microfilm. If you are wondering about a company or companies owned by your own ancestor and don't know the name, that could be tough, unless you know one or two places where they operated. You can then search in the old BC City Directories for the names of logging companies in those areas. The BC-wide directories exist up to 1948. After that there isn't much except Vancouver and Victoria areas until the 1960s or 1970s, and also there are telephone books. All this at BC Archives, and in some cases, other libraries. However, you don't find names of employees of these companies usually. Only the upper management is named in the directories, and if they were out in a bush camp somewhere, there might be no one named other than the owner. The back section of BC City Directories has classified lists of companies, and you can see by looking there, there were many many logging companies. There were of course many kinds of employment in the industry, from managment, to timber cruisers, surveyors, the loggers themselves, and the people who worked in the camps as cooks etc. If you are looking for employee records of old companies, I'd be pretty discouraged! I've never had any luck with searching for employee records, other than things like government and police. In industry, with few exceptions, I've found companies either saved nothing, or they have records for pension purposes but absolutely do not give anything out. If you're looking for information on ordinary people in the logging industry, you could see if there's a local history book on the area where the people who interest you lived. There are lots of local history books on places where the lumber industry was important. Hope this helps. Claudia Cole Independent Research Agent 304 - 1960 Lee Avenue Victoria BC V8R 4W8 Canada 250 598-7859 [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Gundula Meyer-Eppler [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 10:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [CAN-BC] old company infos Does anyone know how I can get some information about the old logging companies of Canada, and especially the ones in BC? thanks! Gundula ==== CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA Mailing List ==== Every two months or so, please repost your interests, telling us what you know and where you've looked and what you still need to find out. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.6 - Release Date: 2/7/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.6 - Release Date: 2/7/2005

Does anyone know how I can get some information about the old logging companies of Canada, and especially the ones in BC? thanks! Gundula

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----- Original Message ----- From: "DAVID PARKER" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [NZ] mail to Canada > Canada Post have confirmed that this is fact. Thank you for letting this > Canadian know. > > David > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "George & Janet Edwards" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 3:07 PM > Subject: [NZ] mail to Canada > > >> >> >> >> >> This is some info that I have come across. You are welcome to pass it >> on. >> You may or may not have heard of mail being returned from Canada as it > did >> not have a return address on it. In the summer of 2004 the 190 members >> of >> the Universal Postal Union met. At that time Canada was the first member > to >> say that any mail coming into Canada without a return address on it >> would >> be >> returned to the country it came from. This is a result of 911 and the > fear >> of the content may cause a security threat. Postcards are exempt as both >> sides can be seen. This enforcement is not from Canada Post but actually >> from the Canada Border Services Agency [customs]. All mail coming into >> Canada enters through Vancouver, Montreal and Toronto where it is > examined >> by Customs before the Post Offices gets it. I understand that a notice > was >> put up in British Post Offices about this. as well the United States >> Post >> Office issued a warning about it. >> For packages where the contents are described on the custom label as >> "gift" or "present" this is not acceptable. >> But Canada Post has also taken to returning mail where it cannot read > the >> address easily. They want the return address in the top left had corner > on >> the front of the item, with who it is to, with Canada in block capital >> letters and the post code below. They prefer the complete address to be >> printed or typed. >> >> I have read where this happened, with the item being returned twice >> until >> the address was addressed in block letters. >> >> __________________________________________________ >> | return >> | address >> | >> | >> | >> | >> | Name >> | address >> | city >> | CANADA >> | postal code >> | >> | >> | >> | >> ___________________________________________________ >> >> I suspect that this is just the start and that other countries will > follow >> suit. I do not think that anyone sending something they should not will > put >> their own return address on the item!` >> >> Kathie >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.5 - Release Date: 03/02/2005 >> >> >> ==== NEW-ZEALAND Mailing List ==== >> Don't return copies of complete mails to the list when >> replying, but edit them down to the relevant passage. >> > > > ==== NEW-ZEALAND Mailing List ==== > Don't return copies of complete mails to the list when > replying, but edit them down to the relevant passage. > >

Pam you could try the BCTF (BC Teachers Federation) he must have been a member. I'm sure they wouldn't give it to you directly but if you told them the circumstance and said you knew the month and year and you got the right person on the phone. Or try the School Board Office in Powell River with the same plea. Roberta & Terry [email protected]

Hello, I, too, have not been able to find the death certificate of William Robert Lawrence, who died 4 June 1966 in Penticton, B.C., Canada. I have a copy of his obituary and it states that he died in Penticton, is buried in Lakeview Cemetery, Penticton, B.C., Canada. If anyone can give me help in obtaining a copy of the death certificate, I would be most grateful. Thank you, Mary Swank Riverside, California

To all:- I finished tabulating all petitions presently on hand -- wish there had been more -- possibly with Bill S-18 presently in Committee after Second Reading, many more will download petitions and help. I have the attachment of the tabulation -- and will send if requested. This is the following source of the 456 Canadian petitions:- British Columbia ---------- 29 Alberta ------------------- 9 Saskatchewan ------------ 9 Manitoba ----------------- 49 Ontario ------------------- 196 New Brunswick ---------- 76 Nova Scotia ------------- 88 NONE from Quebec, Prince Edward Island, Newfoundland-Labrador Yukon, Northwest Territories and Nunavut. Total of Non-Resident petitions is 168 -- and in this cold weather, from exotic places such as Texas, Arizona, Florida. Total of Canadian petitions is now 4372, Non-Resident is 817 ================ I have discovered several problems:- 1. When I stated Page 2 could be printed on both sides of the paper (double-sided) many have sent double copies. [I mentioned this -- as postage costs money -- even one sheet of paper will bring up the cost if weighed] -Should anyone wish to sign a second petition, make it House of Commons. 2. Running out of printed forms? Three-ring lined paper is perfectly alright -- IF THE WORDING FROM PAGE 2 IS INCLUDED. Page 1 must be included -- if not, I fasten it to another sheet -- therefore, someone does not get the proper credit. Muriel M. Davidson [email protected] Co-chair, Canada Census Committee 25 Crestview Avenue, Brampton, ON L6W 2R8 http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/index.htm en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/index_f.htm

Does anyone have any ideas on pinpointing the exact birthdate of someone who's about to turn 100 this month? (Short of asking him & spoiling a surprise?) An old teacher of ours from Powell River - very memorable man- now lives in Victoria. Pam Pam Fairweather Thomson Sechelt, BC, Canada [email protected]

Hi everybody Below is part of messages I posted on this mailing list about 3 weeks ago "I am new to this list, and have just purchased a death certificate for a relative of my wife who died in Sechelt. Can anybody help me with the following, the address of the informant is given as R.R. 1, Gibsons BC. Would that RR stand for Rural Route address? ( Rural Route is mentioned earlier on the form) Can anybody enlighten me as to what it means. The person who died, in 1976, was living in Hillcrest Rd Gibsons and his occupation is given as store owner, grocery. Does anybody know this Road, is there a grocery shop still there? Any info welcome. The person who died was George Robert Follows age 78 and born in Stafford England., he was a widower at the time but the informant was his son in law C Spencer, I know that George had at least 2 daughters , Doris and Yvonne but which one was married to C Spencer. A number of suggestion and help were posted, including one from Diane Brown, who gave me the addresses of 2 C Spencer's who are listed in the Gibsons phone directory. I wrote to both addresses and today I received a letter from one of them who is the son in law mentioned on the death certificate and the other is his daughter. It goes to show that you can get help from mailing lists and again I thank everybody who replied. Bye for now Graham Grant Sydney Australia -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.5 - Release Date: 3/02/2005

Here's hoping someone can find what I haven't been able to: Name: Thomas Cairns Date of Death: March 8, 1909 Place of death: Nelson, BC. Age: 55 years His family was living in Edmonton, AB. at the time, but he was working in Nelson. I have the write up in the Nelson newspaper regarding his sudden death from heart attack. Thanks, Judy Alberta [email protected]

I was also told that sometimes registrations were missed where there was an inquiry or coroner's report. Joanne -----Original Message----- From: kaytt [SMTP:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 6:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CAN-BC] Missing B.C. Archives Death Registration My uncle died in 1949, in an outdoor public swimming pool late at night, and his death registration was not to be found. I pestered both the vital statistics agency, and the B.C. Archives about it, thinking that maybe it didn't get put on the index. No one could find it, but they suggested that I search for a coroner's inquiry report since (if the story was true) he died under unusual circumstances. The B.C. Archives had the coroner's report, so everything turned out okay. I was able to verify that the story was true, and then some. Kathy ______________________________

Bridget, I had a look put could not find him either. Due to the time and location a couple of things came to mind. One I grow up in that area and it is not a big place so it is possible that on Christmas Eve in 1976 the paper work was taken home and never filed? Just a thought! :-) As luck would have it I found out the hard way that even in Christmas 2004 the hospital was very very short staffed. Also wondered about were he actually died and how he died? - that might give some additional clues as to why we can't find him. Carol ------------------------ Hi Claudia and anyone who would like to see if you can find him. I spoke to the Funeral Home in Duncan today and they confimed my infomation as thus: Name: Donald BAILLIE Date: 24/12/1976(day/mo/yr) Age: 29 Gender: Male Place: Duncan B.C. I would be so pleased if someone has better luck than I did, and I tried every which way I could think of. Different spellings of BAILLIE. No name, just year and place. Then no name, no place, just year. Then no year, just first name and place. And many other combinations etc etc etc. Cheers, Bridget on Vancouver Island ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca