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    1. 1914 information
    2. Star
    3. Thank you ALL for the great suggestions. I will contact the Vancouver City Archives to see if they want the painting of Malva? House by M. Cary McConnell and the city memorabilia. The Lacrosse Salmon Bellies memorabilia to Westminster and the books, maps, journals on Westminster Road (Kingsway) to the Vancouver Public Library. As I sort I will post any genealogy facts, if I can? Again I enjoyed the information from ALL, especially people I have talked to in the past. Star

    03/23/2005 03:20:27
    1. Re: [CAN-BC] 1914 information
    2. lorri & Jamie
    3. Hi Star.. There is a genealogy group in the lowermainland that is called British Columbia Genealogy Society. You can get there address from the public library in vancouver or from Cyndi's list. They would be overjoyes to have the pictures. I know in our club.. we love when old pictures of Nanaimo are dropped off. Lorri Nanaimo. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Star" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 5:41 PM Subject: [CAN-BC] 1914 information > I contacted someone before and misplaced the name. I have pictures, > paintings, and lots of information I would like to donate from my 90 year > old Father, born in Vancouver 1915. His parents had 2 boarding houses in > Vancouver and took lots of pictures around Point Gray(?), Vancouver, North > Vancouver and Westminster/Burnaby area. > Does Vancouver have a Genealogy Society or could it be the Vancouver > Library. > appreciate your help. > Star > > > > > > ==== CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA Mailing List ==== > Every two months or so, please repost your interests, > telling us what you know and where you've looked > and what you still need to find out. >

    03/23/2005 12:49:12
    1. Re: [CAN-BC] Birth Registration
    2. Trena
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene Halme" Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 9:10 PM Subject: [CAN-BC] Birth Registration > My father was born in the Comox Hospital in 1920 but his birth wasn't > registered until he started school in 1926 when he needed proof of age. > When he joined the Army he needed a birth certificate and Vital Stats > turned up 2 birth dates for him 9 days apart so he always celebrated 2 > birthdays each year. [snipped] All this chat about birth certs made me think of what happened with a younger sister of mine. She was born in May 1951, in Halifax Nova Scotia. My mother went to register, as my Dad was in Korea. The baby was to be named Mary Kirsten Catherine [surname]. The male clerk at the registry office argued with my mother, telling her she was mis-spelling Kris' names. He insisted her name was to be spelled Mary Christina Katherine! Mum thought she'd won the argument as the piece of paper (not the birth cert) did have the spelling she intended on it. Years later, in 1971 Ontario, Kris wanted to marry and needed her birth cert, so she sent away to NS for it. They told her they had no one by the name she gave .. Mary Kirsten Catherine. Took several months, a couple of phone calls, plus an aunt living in Halifax who also went to the office to discover the problem. They had a set of triplets registered to the same parents (ours'!) with one name each ... Mary, Christina and Katherine! Cost Kris a small fortune (involving a lawyer too) to set the records straight ... and our local church/priest, when he heard the story, accepted her bapt. cert, obtained from NS, as proof so she could marry. Toni ... Ontario.

    03/22/2005 03:56:59
    1. John Slater Yorkshireman
    2. Mary McLeod
    3. My grandfather, John SLATER was born in Cleckheaton, Yorkshire and spent many years gold mining on the Fraser River. He is believed to have owned the Colonial Hotel, Soda Creek. He returned to England and married there in 1877 at the age of 38 years.. His new wife, aged 20 did not want to go to Canada, so they lived in a small village in Huntindonshire where his children were born. About 1901 he went to Canada to investigate his monetary affairs and died there "in his hotel room". John SLATER's name appears on the 1871 Barkerville Census. He acted as Company Secretary for a number of Associations for Free Miners and wrote articles for the "Sentinel" under the pseudonym "Prospector". I would love to hear more about John SLATER's life in Canada. Mary McLeod, New Zealand

    03/22/2005 02:44:48
    1. Post 1901 Census - 3rd reading debate of S-18
    2. Gordon A. Watts
    3. Greetings All. Third Reading debate of Bill S-18 resumed in the Senate on Monday 21 March 2005. Senator Lorna Milne spoke against the amendment proposed earlier by Senator Comeau. She urged members of the Senate to defeat the amendment and to pass the Bill. Senator Lynch-Staunton asked if Senator Milne would "allow a question or two". The Honourable Senator couched his comments in the form of questions. It appeared however, that his main purpose was to object to the commitment of Statistics Canada to participate with the Libarary and Archives of Canada at the time of Census, to educate and encourage Canadians to allow access to their Census records, 92 years in the future, to preserve Canada's history for future generations. The Honourable Senator stated his intention to speak to this "in due course" but subsequently moved adjournment of the debate, after which Senator Jack Austin (Leader of the Government in the Senate) asked when he intended to "make his contribution?". The response was "As soon as I can, honourable senators". We cannot help but wonder, if the good Senator had something further to "contribute" why did he not do so at that time, rather than necessitate further debate on another day. We hope that the Honourable Senator made his "contribution" today (Tuesday), however we will not know that until tomorrow morning when the online Hansard is accessible. We had hoped that Bill S-18 would have received Third Reading (without amendment) and be referred to the House of Commons by this time. We remain hopeful that this will happen before the Senate recesses for Easter this Thursday. The full text of Monday's debate in the Senate, in both official languages, has been added to the Post 1901 Census Project website at the URL following my signature. Follow the link for "Progress of Bill S-18". Happy Hunting Gordon A. Watts [email protected] Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted

    03/22/2005 02:08:29
    1. Re: [CAN-BC] birth registration
    2. Stella Stanger
    3. I have a lady born in January 6 1909 - apparently never needed a birth certificate when she entered the small rural school that she attended. When her husband was of a pensionable age [20 years her senior] she needed to prove her age. An application was made to order her birth certificate - No Problem - one arrived in time. but the birth date was April 28, 1909. This was questioned - but since the names of the parents were the same - it was assumed that this was correct - perhaps a late registration - with errors in the paper work. Lucky lady celebrated 2 birthdays a year - compliments of her children. until she was of pensionable age . The birth certificate was questioned again - and Vital Stats requested that this one be returned. It was - but a new one was not issued - since a birth registration could not be found for the name - and birth date * Note that the surname was often very misspelled. Letters - to doctors, hospitals etc were required for proof of age - to allow her to obtain the pension. Many letters and dollars .She did receive her OAP . At 75,A vacation to Europe - the Passport required a Birth Certificate . Application was again made - with nothing found. Copies of letters from doctors etc were not acceptable - new letters needed to be written. and responses notarized.A solution to the problem. She applied for Canadian Citizenship - and was able to obtain her documentation to allow her to travel.[limited time] *Things are different now - but apparently - had her husband not been Naturalized - she would have been considered a subject of her husbands birth country. even though she had been born in Canada. Further attempts - to register her birth - failed - One letter required that she make the application - but this hit a brick wall - since she needed proof - from a parent, sibling ,aunt ,uncle etc - who could prove the information.was correct. The only sibling still living was a sister only 11 months older - her info was rejected - as she had been to young. The last attempt - Letters to hospitals - where her children were born - for her age. Baptism certificate - copied page from church records, Certified. Marriage Certificate and registration. Anything that stated her age at any specific time. All was sent to Vital Stats. The information was finally accepted /acceptable - the birth was registered. 6 months to the day after she passed way.at age 88.without ever seeing her birth certificate. A birth certificate was never obtained. the family thought that it would be sent - after the registration was accepted.- . Cheers, Stella At 01:29 PM 3/22/2005, you wrote: >Hi Just wanted to mention that my Father's birth was not register until >July 1916, and he was born in April 1901. They most likely needed his >birth cert. so he could start school. > A note at the bottom stated that she thought that his Father had > registered him, but I guess he did not care, she said. > Lots of different excuses. > >Ken in Enderby. > > >==== CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA Mailing List ==== >Visit the British Columbia Gen Web page at >http://www.rootsweb.com/~canbc/

    03/22/2005 01:48:37
    1. Birth Registration
    2. Arlene Halme
    3. My father was born in the Comox Hospital in 1920 but his birth wasn't registered until he started school in 1926 when he needed proof of age. When he joined the Army he needed a birth certificate and Vital Stats turned up 2 birth dates for him 9 days apart so he always celebrated 2 birthdays each year. His next older brother also did not have his birth registered until he started school. I'm not sure if it was lack of a Vital Stats office in small communities or people just didn't know they had to register a birth with a government office. My grandmother probably thought that the baptism record would suffice as it did in Finland. Would be interesting to know what the regulations in the 20's were. Arlene

    03/22/2005 11:10:34
    1. 1914 information
    2. Star
    3. I contacted someone before and misplaced the name. I have pictures, paintings, and lots of information I would like to donate from my 90 year old Father, born in Vancouver 1915. His parents had 2 boarding houses in Vancouver and took lots of pictures around Point Gray(?), Vancouver, North Vancouver and Westminster/Burnaby area. Does Vancouver have a Genealogy Society or could it be the Vancouver Library. appreciate your help. Star

    03/22/2005 10:41:13
    1. Birth Registrations
    2. Ellen Murray
    3. Have been watching your interesting notes on registering births. Had one recently where person was born 1879 and not registered til 1934. My theory is that he applied for pension and that is why he had to be registered. An Affidavit was required to prove the birth from another family member. There are many out there who were never registered due to location of residence (small community and child born at home) etc; Ellen -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/2005

    03/22/2005 10:15:44
    1. birth registration
    2. Ken & Elsie Coburn
    3. Hi Just wanted to mention that my Father's birth was not register until July 1916, and he was born in April 1901. They most likely needed his birth cert. so he could start school. A note at the bottom stated that she thought that his Father had registered him, but I guess he did not care, she said. Lots of different excuses. Ken in Enderby.

    03/22/2005 06:29:24
    1. re birth registration
    2. Karen Woodworth
    3. I'm not sure what the set time is to register a birth in Canada, however an ancestor of mine was born in Toronto, On Nov 1886 and his father registered his birth July 1918 (32 years later). The Ontario Declaration was notarized in Detroit, Mi where the father was living. The Declaration was "In the Matter of Registering a Birth which has not been registered in accordance with Section 15 & 18, the Vital Statistics Act, RSo 1914, c.49. The son lived in Toronto with an uncle so I am assuming that his parents separated.

    03/22/2005 03:35:00
    1. RE: [CAN-BC] RE:Birth Registration
    2. Peter Goff
    3. Hi List In the UK the time limit is 42 days. That was after 1874 when the 1837 Registration Act was re-written to make it compulsory for *anybody* present at an event to notify the registra.. Before that the onus seemed to be on the registra to "discover" births so some went unrecorded. Regards Peter G Kingsclere, Hampshire, UK >-----Original Message----- >From: Carol [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: 22 March 2005 05:47 >To: [email protected] >Subject: [CAN-BC] RE:Birth Registration > > >Yes it was standard for the father (assuming there was >one on record) to registered the birth. > >14 days after birth is not IMHO an unusual amount of >time between birth and registration. I have a large >number BC registers and many took longer than that - >on average 25 days. Have one which was well over a >year after the fact. A lot of people lived in remote >areas and did not get into town all that often. > >As far as providing any info he wanted I suppose >anything is possible but one has to ask why he would >not register it as it was? Keep in mind fathers are >human and errors do happen! :-) > >I also recall reading someplace can't recall if it was >in Canada or the UK that there was a set time frame >that the child's birth was to be registered. One year >after birth? If the father was late in registering the >birth it was not unheard of for the date of birth to >be incorrectly stated to avoid a problem. Perhaps >someone else knows a bit more about that and what time >was legally allowed. > >Carol > > >____________ > >Hello List > > I've recently begun to wonder how Births were >registered in >BC in the 1920s. More specifically, who registered >them and how do >we know the information was accurate? > I have a copy of a Certificate of Birth issued in >1937 for a >relative saying he was born in 1923. The birth was >registered 14 >days after the birth and the information was provided >by the father. >Was this the standard way to have registered a birth >if it didn't >happen in a hospital? Could not the father have >provided any >information he wanted to? > Sorry if this question sounds a little vague but the >outcome >could be a bit of a surprise to relatives. > >Grant > > > >______________________________________________________________________ >Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca > > >==== CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA Mailing List ==== >Visit the British Columbia Gen Web page at >http://www.rootsweb.com/~canbc/ > >

    03/22/2005 03:08:29
    1. Re: [CAN-BC] Old Districts and Subdistricts
    2. marg mcfarlane
    3. Hi: From Ancestry.com: The district of Bennett and Atlin refers to two different communities geographically located near Bennett Lake and Atlin Lake. Bennett Lake extends southwest of Carcross to the British Columbia border. This lake was named in 1883 by American Army Lt. Frederick Schwatka after James Gordon Bennett, editor of the New York Herald and a promoter of American exploration. Atlin is on the east shore of Atlin Lake, in the northwestern part of the province. Its post office was named in 1899. This database lists more than 1,300 entries of residents in the subdistrict in 1901. Cassiar (Stikine) is located within the Cassiar Mountain Range. Situated in the northwestern part of the province, with the Coast Mountains on the west and the Rocky Mountains on the east, the name was derived from the aboriginal word "kaska," which may mean "creek" or "small river." Stikine (as above in parentheses) refers to the area around the Stikine River, which rises southwest of Fort Nelson. This river flows west and then southwest, crossing the Alaska border northwest of Stewart. In Tlingit, the name means "the river." This database includes members of at least three native tribes from the subdistrict. These tribes are not named or referenced in any way by the census taker, who clearly had no idea how he should record these groups. For example, within entry 27 on page 11 of the records, the census taker wrote, "Fifteen others of this tribe out in the woods. I didn't get the names." His final entry on page 13, entry 28 reads, "Estimated population 150. The others of this tribe was [sic.] scattered out in the woods." He then added, "These 150 Indian to be added on . . ." with the initials "W.B." He dated it "Jan 21\02." This database contains more than 600 entries of residents in this subdistrict in 1901. Cassiar (Skeena) is located within the Cassiar Mountain Range. Situated in the northwestern part of the province, with the Coast Mountains on the west and the Rocky Mountains on the east, the name was derived from the aboriginal word "kaska," which may mean "creek" or "small river." This database should not be confused with the city of Cassiar, which was not established until 1952. This database contains more than 2,000 entries of residents in this subdistrict in 1901. Source Information: Stewart, Michael & Angela, comp. Burrard District, British Columbia Census 1901: Bennett and Atlin, Cassiar (Stikine), Cassiar (Skeena) [database online]. Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2000. Original data: Bennett and Atlin, Cassiar (Stikine), and Cassiar (Skeena), Burrard District, British Columbia, Canada. 1901 Canada Census. Microfilm # T-6428. National Archives of Canada, Ottawa, Canada. To find the locales mentioned: http://geonames.nrcan.gc.ca/index_e.php And at the National Archives 1901 census page, click on Help, then districts and maps, and click on Burrard on this page: http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/020122/0201220401_e.html On the resulting page, if you don't have the Mr. Sid viewer just click on the words "without the viewer" to look at the map. Use the + and - and arrow keys to view the area. Hope this helps a bit! Marg Diana wrote: > > >I recently took a look at the 1901 census and did a wildcard search for surnames I'm researching. I came up with one STATT, but would like some information on where in the province this would have been. It's not a district of the province that I know of present-day. > >The district is BURRARD. >Subdistrict BENNET & ATLIN > >It doesn't give the person's profession on the census page, but everyone on the page were single men with 'partners', so I'm guessing it was some kind of work camp? > >Where in the province this district is/was might shed some light on what was going on there in 1901 > >_______________________________________________ >No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. >Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com > > >==== CAN-BRITISH-COLUMBIA Mailing List ==== >Visit the British Columbia Gen Web page at >http://www.rootsweb.com/~canbc/ > > > >

    03/22/2005 12:30:45
    1. Old Districts and Subdistricts
    2. Diana
    3. I recently took a look at the 1901 census and did a wildcard search for surnames I'm researching. I came up with one STATT, but would like some information on where in the province this would have been. It's not a district of the province that I know of present-day. The district is BURRARD. Subdistrict BENNET & ATLIN It doesn't give the person's profession on the census page, but everyone on the page were single men with 'partners', so I'm guessing it was some kind of work camp? Where in the province this district is/was might shed some light on what was going on there in 1901 _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com

    03/21/2005 09:02:05
    1. RE:Birth Registration
    2. Carol
    3. Yes it was standard for the father (assuming there was one on record) to registered the birth. 14 days after birth is not IMHO an unusual amount of time between birth and registration. I have a large number BC registers and many took longer than that - on average 25 days. Have one which was well over a year after the fact. A lot of people lived in remote areas and did not get into town all that often. As far as providing any info he wanted I suppose anything is possible but one has to ask why he would not register it as it was? Keep in mind fathers are human and errors do happen! :-) I also recall reading someplace can't recall if it was in Canada or the UK that there was a set time frame that the child's birth was to be registered. One year after birth? If the father was late in registering the birth it was not unheard of for the date of birth to be incorrectly stated to avoid a problem. Perhaps someone else knows a bit more about that and what time was legally allowed. Carol ____________ Hello List I've recently begun to wonder how Births were registered in BC in the 1920s. More specifically, who registered them and how do we know the information was accurate? I have a copy of a Certificate of Birth issued in 1937 for a relative saying he was born in 1923. The birth was registered 14 days after the birth and the information was provided by the father. Was this the standard way to have registered a birth if it didn't happen in a hospital? Could not the father have provided any information he wanted to? Sorry if this question sounds a little vague but the outcome could be a bit of a surprise to relatives. Grant ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca

    03/21/2005 05:46:53
    1. RE: informant on death registration question
    2. Carol
    3. Best to always keep an open mind on information provided on a death registration as it is not verified! :-) I have found some funny errors on some of my family death certs: My Great Great Grandfather was born in London Ontario (Upper Canada at the time). His place of birth is well documented both in family holdings and published works. But his death registration in 1907 reads that he was born in London *England*! I imagine my Great Grandfather who was the informant and know very well where his father was born just said to the doctor that his father was born in "London" and being a 4th generation Canadian himself it never occurred to him that it he needed to clarify that it was Ontario not England! :-) In regards to another Great Grandfather I have a taped interview with one of his daughters and she says he was born in Tennessee. A local Victoria area Council will tell you the same thing if you ask them for the back ground of the person a road in the area is named after. Yet his marriage and birth cert and census records in the US (as a child) read that he was born in North Carolina. He did spent time in Tennessee so I suspect he mentioned it to people more often than North Carolina and assumptions were made. Carol --------------------------------- Goodmorning list - I have a question about the death registration information. Who gives the information regarding ' years in province', date of immigration etc. Does this information all come from the informant?. The reason I'm asking is because I don't think the information given was correct. Is the info verified at all - do they check for the actual immigration dates??. Many thanx for your help................debi ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca

    03/21/2005 07:12:45
    1. Birth Registration
    2. Hello List I've recently begun to wonder how Births were registered in BC in the 1920s. More specifically, who registered them and how do we know the information was accurate? I have a copy of a Certificate of Birth issued in 1937 for a relative saying he was born in 1923. The birth was registered 14 days after the birth and the information was provided by the father. Was this the standard way to have registered a birth if it didn't happen in a hospital? Could not the father have provided any information he wanted to? Sorry if this question sounds a little vague but the outcome could be a bit of a surprise to relatives. Grant -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.0 - Release Date: 21/03/2005

    03/21/2005 06:47:06
    1. Obituary lookups
    2. marg mcfarlane
    3. Hi List: Am wondering if anyone out there will be going to wherever Vancouver/Burnaby newspaper films are held and would be able to look for a some obits for me? Am prefectly willing to pay for time/trouble/copying, etc. Don't even need photocopies if able to scan and e-mail or transcribe if short enough. They are for: Philip Donald Snetsinger, AKA Findley Snetsinger, died February 21, 1922, Vancouver; Agnes (Meek/Meeker) Snetsinger, died October 28, 1936, Burnaby; Donald Hugh Snetsinger, died December 21, 1940, Vancouver; Margaret (Snetsinger) Bancroft, died December 27, 1940, Vancouver; Ray Grant Snetsinger, died March 24, 1944, Burnaby; George Ross Snetsinger, died May 30, 1951, Vancouver; Andree Marion Snetsinger, died January 3, 1962, Vancouver; Earl Douglas Snetsinger, died December 30, 1973, Sechelt. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated! Thank you, Marg in Alberta

    03/21/2005 01:58:57
    1. YAMPOLSKY - Westbank area
    2. Darlene
    3. Could someone please have a look to see if there is a listing in Henderson's directories for a Noah and/or Gertrude Yampolsky in the Westbank area around 1925-1930. thanks for your help darlene

    03/20/2005 06:25:43
    1. thank you re informant info
    2. debi
    3. Thank you ALL - everyone is just sooooo helpful on this list and the answers provided are wonderful. We are trying to obtain a file from Stats Canada for a 'Charles William Ford' during the 1940 war registration but they won't release it until we provide an obituary of the person having been deceased for at least 20 yrs. We provided the death registration and obit but he said that for some reason it didn't match the one they have on file. They wouldn't say why exactly but gave some indication that the year of immigration didn't match up. So now I need to convince them otherwise!...............thanx again.................debi

    03/20/2005 06:16:34