HOWDY COUSINS, I will be 80 YEARS in March 2006- I traveled through this Country, With an out door Adverising company, Erecting Highway signs, FOR a Two Period, 1949 & 50, I learned shortly that the sooner that I became Native the easier it was to do Business,. IT works this Way, Y,LL don't Get far in N-yark Nor Does YOUSE-GUYS HACK It in Ms. NOW that was not GENEALOGY, BUT the next time that you are looking for that elusive Ancestor___??, I have found that when I place my Self as that person, one will more easily find what one is looking for & better understand it, Go ahead & laugh, BUT IF there a Genealogical Connection, one YOU OR I will make it. TRY IT. NOW; There are about as nany Descendents of John Campbell, <May be Wagon-neer> M Frances NOW; This Couple are one set of my 4th Grt Grand Parents AND ALL OR most of their Descendents Have after over 200 years still have Mine & Many of your Grt Grand Mother without a Maiden name. Remember, JUST Frances. WELL please Type into your Search; Marriage Bonds, <1772-1792>In York County Va. in the results Click on to Abstracts of License Bonds <1772-1792 York County. This is an 11 page Print out: on Print out Page- There is on that Page, < page 57> NOTE>; 24th Dec. '87. John Campbell to Elizabeth Wright, Daughter of Benjamin Wright of Yorkhampton Parish; Security, Thos. Dawson. THERE was one John Campbell on theTax roll in York County in 1790. NOW TRUE: this may Create more questions than it Answers, BUT COUSINS do you have any thing Better to Work on to give Grand MA a Maiden Name? In a Sorrells Genealogy Posting, I found where Benjamin Wright Had a Common law Union with one Sorrells woman< <I failed to Copy it & now haven;t found I again. It is a Fact that OUR John Campbell WAS IN Yorktown At the end of the REV-WAR. I believe that John went Back & Married Elizabeth Wright, who was A Daughter from the Common Law Union, BUT when John Campbell got back to Lowesville Va with his Bride, < Her age was Older than a daughter of Benjamin Wright's Lawful Wife Could have Been. SO as not too Embarrass Grand Pa Benjamin Wright, John Campbell's Bride became JUST Frances. NOW there are THOUSANDS of Descendents from this Union OF John Campbell & Frances, <WRIGHT> & I A. T. Powell, Jr. a 6th Generation descendent, believe that Grand MA, GRAMA Frances Should have a Maiden name IF Posiable. OK COUSIN's - Descendents of John Campbell & Frances. __?? . PLEASE Sound OFF- I have Brought it this far- AT <atpowelljr@aol.com> BUT
http://www.geocities.com/janet_ariciu/Sorrell.html Sorrell Wright connections There is a will in which a Wright names a grandchild who is a Sorrell. No mention of a Sorrell/Wright marriage, so A.T. this may be the link you were looking for. Marge -----Original Message----- From: Atpowelljr@aol.com [mailto:Atpowelljr@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 2:51 AM To: CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CAMPBELL] Re: Reply to Mr. Mick, re: Genetic Memory HOWDY COUSINS, I will be 80 YEARS in March 2006- I traveled through this Country, With an out door Adverising company, Erecting Highway signs, FOR a Two Period, 1949 & 50, I learned shortly that the sooner that I became Native the easier it was to do Business,. IT works this Way, Y,LL don't Get far in N-yark Nor Does YOUSE-GUYS HACK It in Ms. NOW that was not GENEALOGY, BUT the next time that you are looking for that elusive Ancestor___??, I have found that when I place my Self as that person, one will more easily find what one is looking for & better understand it, Go ahead & laugh, BUT IF there a Genealogical Connection, one YOU OR I will make it. TRY IT. NOW; There are about as nany Descendents of John Campbell, <May be Wagon-neer> M Frances NOW; This Couple are one set of my 4th Grt Grand Parents AND ALL OR most of their Descendents Have after over 200 years still have Mine & Many of your Grt Grand Mother without a Maiden name. Remember, JUST Frances. WELL please Type into your Search; Marriage Bonds, <1772-1792>In York County Va. in the results Click on to Abstracts of License Bonds <1772-1792 York County. This is an 11 page Print out: on Print out Page- There is on that Page, < page 57> NOTE>; 24th Dec. '87. John Campbell to Elizabeth Wright, Daughter of Benjamin Wright of Yorkhampton Parish; Security, Thos. Dawson. THERE was one John Campbell on theTax roll in York County in 1790. NOW TRUE: this may Create more questions than it Answers, BUT COUSINS do you have any thing Better to Work on to give Grand MA a Maiden Name? In a Sorrells Genealogy Posting, I found where Benjamin Wright Had a Common law Union with one Sorrells woman< <I failed to Copy it & now haven;t found I again. It is a Fact that OUR John Campbell WAS IN Yorktown At the end of the REV-WAR. I believe that John went Back & Married Elizabeth Wright, who was A Daughter from the Common Law Union, BUT when John Campbell got back to Lowesville Va with his Bride, < Her age was Older than a daughter of Benjamin Wright's Lawful Wife Could have Been. SO as not too Embarrass Grand Pa Benjamin Wright, John Campbell's Bride became JUST Frances. NOW there are THOUSANDS of Descendents from this Union OF John Campbell & Frances, <WRIGHT> & I A. T. Powell, Jr. a 6th Generation descendent, believe that Grand MA, GRAMA Frances Should have a Maiden name IF Posiable. OK COUSIN's - Descendents of John Campbell & Frances. __?? . PLEASE Sound OFF- I have Brought it this far- AT <atpowelljr@aol.com> BUT
Dear Cousin A. T., and all others, I read what your theory is, and also visited the Sorrells webpage which Marge shared with us. I wish I was a Sorrells, because they have got that name all the way back to the days of the Knights of the Roundtable in England! Oh well, we Campbell are still looking..... Concerning Frances, who was the wife of John Campbell b. 1750 VA, d. 1838 Amherst Co VA. John Campbell was the son of George and Caty Campbell of Amherst Co VA. John entered the Army in 1781 at Amherst Co VA. He would be 31 years old at that date. Was he single or married? He served for 4 months and was at the Seige of Yorktown. That Seige was exactly what date? I could look that up on my Encyclopedia CD, but probably many of you know it by heart, I don't. He was also on the Guilford Expedition, which is the Courthouse at Guilford, which is now called GREENSBORO, NC. Was Frances a Tar-Heel girl, of North Carolina? The marriage record between Frances and John has never been found, but it could exist, we just didn't look in the right place yet. However, the date February of 1779 is always given for the date of the marriage between John and Frances. Was that date stated on his Revolutionary War Pension Application? I know they did in fact ask for marriage dates, so maybe this is where that 1779 date comes from. If the date 1779 is correct, that means that John and Frances were married before he entered service (Army), and he would have been about 29 years of age when he married. This would have been before he went to Yorktown to fight. In 1779 he should have been living in Amherst Co VA, either on his father's land, or on his own farm land perhaps given to him by his father, or land he bought himself. The marriage record you found for a John Campbell and Elizabeth Wright, d/o Benjamin Wright of Yorkhampton Paris, dated 1787 does not seen to fit to our John Campbell. I think this is a totally separate man. The name WRIGHT in Colonial Virginia is very, very numerous, and they do not all relate together. Wright is a very common English name, and even in Amherst Co alone there are many Wright family lines, some are separate, and don't relate. In Amherst Co my ancestor Francis Wright died, and he did have a son Benjamin Wright, but in the year 1787 this Benjamin Wright was in Amherst Co VA, and not in Yorkhampton Parish, and he had a daughter Elizabeth, and she married Benjamin Camden, of the Amherst-Nelson Co Camden line. What I mean to say, is the name Campbell and Wright were common in Colonial Virginia, and in the year 1787, the year of that marriage record you found, I don't see any connection between our John Campbell of Amherst Co VA, and the Benjamin Wright family in Yorkhampton Parish, VA. I think, that if the February 1779 marriage date fo Frances and John is TRUE, and was reported by John himself, or some credible source, then I believe that date would most likely find John and Frances both living in Amherst Co VA, and that Frances was most likely a LOCAL girl, and not from a far-off place. They probably married somewhere close to Amherst Co VA, if not in Amherst Co itself. The FIRST child I have recorded for them is my own ancestor James W. Campbell b. 1784. Now, 1779 and 1784 is a space of 5 years. Pretty long time to be married with out having a baby, but of course that can happen. Or she could have had babies which died young, or she could have had a baby before James which I just don't have listed. That is all possible. We do have listed 10 kids, so there is room for a few more which we don't know about. Or the other possibilty would be that the marriage date of 1779 is NOT correct, and that John and Frances did get married while he was away in the Army in 1781. In that case she could be a girl from a far-off family, not a local girl. I have no idea as to who Frances is, or from where. I have never heard or seen any convincing story or evidence that she was from anywhere except Amherst Co VA. Common sense would say John Campbell married a local girl, and was married prior to joining the Army, as he was by then 31 years old, and that is late to marry in those days. That scenerio would support the 1779 marriage date, but does not explain why their first baby was not born until 1784, 5 years later. So were there any girls named Frances in the Amherst Co area who are listed in some genealogy, but never have a marriage listed for them? Was she Wright, Camden, Thompson, Massie, Ramsey, etc. We could sit up all night listing every well known family line in Amherst Co, and still not get it right, but eventually if we discuss and share enough, I think something should pop-up. Best regards, Lilly Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: Atpowelljr@aol.com To: CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com Cc: powell2140@comcast.ne ; malik@scs-net.org Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [CAMPBELL] Re: Reply to Mr. Mick, re: Genetic Memory WELL please Type into your Search; Marriage Bonds, <1772-1792>In York County Va. in the results Click on to Abstracts of License Bonds <1772-1792 York County. This is an 11 page Print out: on Print out Page- There is on that Page, <page 57> NOTE>; 24th Dec. '87. John Campbell to Elizabeth Wright, Daughter of Benjamin Wright of Yorkhampton Parish; Security, Thos. Dawson. THERE was one John Campbell on theTax roll in York County in 1790. NOW TRUE: this may Create more questions than it Answers, BUT COUSINS do you have any thing Better to Work on to give Grand MA a Maiden Name? In a Sorrells Genealogy Posting, I found where Benjamin Wright Had a Common law Union with one Sorrells woman< <I failed to Copy it & now haven;t found I again. It is a Fact that OUR John Campbell WAS IN Yorktown At the end of the REV-WAR. I believe that John went Back & Married Elizabeth Wright, who was A Daughter from the Common Law Union, BUT when John Campbell got back to Lowesville Va with his Bride, < Her age was Older than a daughter of Benjamin Wright's Lawful Wife Could have Been. SO as not too Embarrass Grand Pa Benjamin Wright, John Campbell's Bride became JUST Frances. NOW there are THOUSANDS of Descendents from this Union OF John Campbell & Frances, <WRIGHT> & I A. T. Powell, Jr. a 6th Generation descendent, believe that Grand MA, GRAMA Frances Should have a Maiden name IF Posiable. OK COUSIN's - Descendents of John Campbell & Frances. __?? . PLEASE Sound OFF- I have Brought it this far- AT atpowelljr@aol.com