COUSINS, I never said that the John Campbell - Elizabeth Wright Marriage in YORK COUNTY WAS OURS, BUT No one & I Mean NO one has ever found a Record of A marriage of John Campbell & Frances ANY WHERE, NOW I have talked to LOIS Campbell in Alexandra, Va & she SAYS that there is no Record of Our John Campbell Having Married < Frances> listed in the Amherst County, Va, Marriage records on Reel # 37 of Amherst County VA. Marriages From 1761 to 1853 that is in the State Library here in Richmond VA, JUST asking, What Proof do you have that Benjamin Wright was in Amherst County VA ON DEC/24/1787/ I will still have to Hold onto the Belief that Frances WAS the Results of a Common Law Union Between Benjamin Wright & A Sorrells WOMAN, UNTIL THERE is MORE Proof OTHER WISE. A Child from a Common law Union usually went with the Mother, BUT SUPPOSE MAMA DIED IN Child birth?? I fail to understand the reluctance of the posibility. OH I know there is NO MARRIAGE RECORD in Amherst County. IS IT possible that GRAND PA JOHN & GRAND MA Frances WERE a Common Law Union, I would rather Hope Not BUT no one has ever found a Marriage Of them & Are Shooting Down all other Possibilities. I was JUST trying to Give Grand Ma Frances a Maiden NAME. < SO OH WELL> CUZ A T & Leona < atpowellj@aol.com>
AT, that's not true. John Campbell's pension record, of which a summary I have previously posted on here, clearly states that (according to Frances), they were married in Feb. 1779 in Amherst Co. Atpowelljr@aol.com wrote: COUSINS, I never said that the John Campbell - Elizabeth Wright Marriage in YORK COUNTY WAS OURS, BUT No one & I Mean NO one has ever found a Record of A marriage of John Campbell & Frances ANY WHERE, NOW I have talked to LOIS Campbell in Alexandra, Va & she SAYS that there is no Record of Our John Campbell Having Married < Frances> listed in the Amherst County, Va, Marriage records on Reel # 37 of Amherst County VA. Marriages From 1761 to 1853 that is in the State Library here in Richmond VA, JUST asking, What Proof do you have that Benjamin Wright was in Amherst County VA ON DEC/24/1787/ I will still have to Hold onto the Belief that Frances WAS the Results of a Common Law Union Between Benjamin Wright & A Sorrells WOMAN, UNTIL THERE is MORE Proof OTHER WISE. A Child from a Common law Union usually went with the Mother, BUT SUPPOSE MAMA DIED IN Child birth?? I fail to understand the reluctance of the posibility. OH I know there is NO MARRIAGE RECORD in Amherst County. IS IT possible that GRAND PA JOHN & GRAND MA Frances WERE a Common Law Union, I would rather Hope Not BUT no one has ever found a Marriage Of them & Are Shooting Down all other Possibilities. I was JUST trying to Give Grand Ma Frances a Maiden NAME. < SO OH WELL> CUZ A T & Leona < atpowellj@aol.com> ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever.
Dear A.T. Powell and all others, I thought that the Feb 1779 marriage date for John Campbell and Frances was probably from the Rev. War Pension file, and now Steven Campbell has confirmed that. So I feel we can believe that John and Frances were married before he went into service in 1781. He entered the service in 1781, and entered at Amherst Co VA, so this means he was living in the area where his father George Campbell lived at. I still think that who ever Frances is, she is most likely a LOCAL girl, from Amherst Co VA. The 1787 Personal property tax record at Amherst Co VA shows several men named John Campbell, and I believe one of them was John Campbell b. 1750, the son of George, and married to Frances. I need to ask you, are you reffering to Benjamin Wright, the son of Francis Wright and Mary Hawkins, of Amherst Co VA? If you are thinking that this same Benjamin Wright could be the father of Frances, the wife of John Campbell, then we should look at him closer. Benjamin Wright is my own ancestor, and John Campbell and Frances are also my own ancestors, so this story does mean something to me persoanlly. Benjamin Wright was named as son in the Will of Francis Wright, probated in 1767 at Amherst Co VA. Benjamin Wright was buying land in Amherst Co in 1771, and continued to be recorded in documents concerning land in Amherst Co VA. He wrote his will in 1799, and it was probated in 1799 at Amherst Co VA. In 1800 his estate was appraised in Amherst Co VA, and John Campbell was named as one of 3 appraisers, this does not mean he was related, the other 2 men were Notley Warren Maddox, and George Gillaspie. The children of Benjamin Wright are thought to be: Phebe,Moses, Elizabeth, Oney, Martha, Susannah, Sally, Matilda, Jesse. If Benjamin did have an extra marital affair, and produce a daughter named Frances, with a womanof the Sorrells family, this could be in Amherst Co VA. Or this could be in a neighboring County such as Augusta, Rockbridge, or Albemarle, or others in the close vicinity. What I mean to say is this: that Benjamin Wright is the correct age to be the father of Frances, he was definately a neighbor of John Campbell, s/o George. Benjamin Wright was having children in the same basic time frame as what we would consider to be Frances' birth year. So it well could be true, but we should ask more questions with any Sorrell researchers who are from the Amherst Co VA vicinity. I feel that Frances was a local girl, born and raised either in Amherst Co VA, or not too far away. John and Frances were married prior to his going into service, so I don't think he was traveling anywhere to get married, I don't think she was from some far removed place. Now I could be wrong, but from the marriage date, and the military service entry date, that places John Campbell in Amherst Co VA, not far from his father George Campbell. Unless he had some special reason to go off roaming around in 1779, I feel he was probably married fairly close to home. Definately, I would say that the Revolutionary War did not have an effect on his marriage, because he was married prior to his War Duty. Concerning the Marriage Index at the Library of Virginia, not all the marriages are on the index. I have the index, and I have heard from many, many people, who have a real live copy of a courthouse marriage record, in VA, and it was not on the index. Why are some marriages ommitted, or missed? I don't know, it is frustrating to know that not all are on the index, so I suggest more searches to be done for the exact date of February 1779, and we might just find a record which states Frances is the daughter of XYZ , and we will finally know the truth. In conclusion, I think that your theory could hold water, but right now there is nothing to support it, so we can only guess at this point. Do we know how many SORRELL families were in the area as of 1760? We still need to find some researcher who has files on the various Amherst Co Sorrell families, to see what light they may shed on this question. Best regards, Lilly Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Campbell" <stevencampbell2@yahoo.com> To: <CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 8:56 PM Subject: Re: [CAMPBELL] RE- JOHN CAMPBEL & ELIZABETH WRIGHT > AT, that's not true. John Campbell's pension record, of which a summary I > have previously posted on here, clearly states that (according to > Frances), they were married in Feb. 1779 in Amherst Co. > > > Atpowelljr@aol.com wrote: COUSINS, > I never said that the John Campbell - Elizabeth Wright Marriage in YORK > COUNTY WAS OURS, BUT No one & I Mean NO one has ever found a Record of A > marriage > of John Campbell & Frances ANY WHERE, NOW I have talked to LOIS Campbell > in > Alexandra, > Va & she SAYS that there is no Record of Our John Campbell Having Married > < > Frances> listed in the Amherst County, Va, > Marriage records on Reel # 37 of Amherst County VA. Marriages From 1761 > to > 1853 that is in the State Library here in Richmond VA, > JUST asking, What Proof do you have that Benjamin Wright was in Amherst > County VA ON DEC/24/1787/