All this talk about not believing what you read brings up a point for me that I would like to inquire about. I am really in a quandary as to know what I should put on my family tree as my father's birth year. He died when I was only 17, but he honestly didn't know if he was born in 1876 or 1878, as we talked about that several times. All of our family is gone so there is no one I can turn to except my group of "cousins", so I will tell you what information I do have & hope you will write to me off line _pjpeters2@aol.com_ (mailto:pjpeters2@aol.com) and let me know what you suggest I do. The first census I locate him in is the 1880 and they show his age as 2 (which would be 1878). The second is the 1910 at age 34 (1876) The last is 1920 at age 48 (1872) His 1st marriage (I have copy of) was Indian Territory in Nov 1900 which said he was 24 (1876). His marriage to my mother in 1931 said 48 but I know he was trying to make himself younger, as my mother put her age at 27 and she was only 21! So I discount this.. His social security application (I have copy) he put down he was born in 1878. His World War I draft registration in 1918 says his birthday was 1876. His Calif. death certificate says 1876 & that information was given to them by his 1st son who was born 1904, 30 years before I was born. Even social security couldn't find his birth certificate, he said he was born in a log milling camp and it never got made out I guess. Please, I really would like your opinion on this... Sincerely, Peggy