His name was Charles Ernest Williams born in Daviess Co., Indiana birthdate March 10th. His fathers name was George W. Williams abt 1844 IN. and his mother was Mary Ellen Campbell 1844 Ohio. They both died in OK. I just wasn't sure what to do, I hate to put 1876-1878 for my own father. At first I thought his mother would have know best in the 1880 census, but that was before I learned how many census takers made!! Thanks for your reply....Peggy

A lot of the time, it was a neighbor giving information, The census taker probably asked the household he was at about the next farm up the road.. Saved himself some time if this family could name the next one for him (this is my own theory, not a known fact). In 1850 Ellis Campbell is shown to have several sons then his first girl is listed as a male... Correct age, but a male. I can see neighbors thinking Dorcas was a boy. They were poor, and maybe for her own safety?, she was probably wearing her brother's hand me downs, and hair fastened back like the boys..an easy error. Or maybe the census taker was told right and felt this couldn't be a girl. We will never know why litle Dorcas was put down as a boy. If someone doing family research on just her, they would never find her in the 1850 census.. Instead of Dorcas Campbell, female age 10.. They will find Derias Campbell male age 10. If you are just searching the index, you will miss her family for sure. If I can't find a person on the census by listing all I know (or think I know) I try a year (for Dorcas, 1840 +-2yrs)and state of birth (MO)..then I go through each one of these actual pages.. Looking at the family.. I would find all names that are close..including Derias... I would then look for this same individual on the next census to see how they are listed.. I didn't find a Derias b 1840 +-2yrs on the 1860... I did find a Dorcas... Checking.. Yep same family. Go back to Ellis Campbell in 1840...yep youngest is a girl. She is a girl on all census except 1850. Answers to brick walls are there..we just have to use some creative research. Marge -----Original Message----- From: Pjpeters2@aol.com [mailto:Pjpeters2@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:49 PM To: CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CAMPBELL] RE- WHERE WAS he BORN & WHAST WAS Your Fathers NAME His name was Charles Ernest Williams born in Daviess Co., Indiana birthdate March 10th. His fathers name was George W. Williams abt 1844 IN. and his mother was Mary Ellen Campbell 1844 Ohio. They both died in OK. I just wasn't sure what to do, I hate to put 1876-1878 for my own father. At first I thought his mother would have know best in the 1880 census, but that was before I learned how many census takers made!! Thanks for your reply....Peggy ______________________________

Some one was confused about the census stating some were born in Iowa when they were actually born in Indiana. I ran into this where census said some of my ancestors were born in IA when I knew they were actually born in Indiana. After some research I found back then IA was actually an abbreviation for Indiana. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margie Campbell" <margecam@comcast.net> To: <CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 9:03 AM Subject: [CAMPBELL] Census takers > A lot of the time, it was a neighbor giving information, The census taker > probably asked the household he was at about the next farm up the road.. > Saved himself some time if this family could name the next one for him (this > is my own theory, not a known fact). > In 1850 Ellis Campbell is shown to have several sons then his first girl is > listed as a male... Correct age, but a male. I can see neighbors thinking > Dorcas was a boy. They were poor, and maybe for her own safety?, she was > probably wearing her brother's hand me downs, and hair fastened back like > the boys..an easy error. Or maybe the census taker was told right and felt > this couldn't be a girl. We will never know why litle Dorcas was put down > as a boy. If someone doing family research on just her, they would never > find her in the 1850 census.. Instead of Dorcas Campbell, female age 10.. > They will find Derias Campbell male age 10. If you are just searching the > index, you will miss her family for sure. If I can't find a person on the > census by listing all I know (or think I know) I try a year (for Dorcas, > 1840 +-2yrs)and state of birth (MO)..then I go through each one of these > actual pages.. Looking at the family.. I would find all names that are > close..including Derias... I would then look for this same individual on the > next census to see how they are listed.. I didn't find a Derias b 1840 > +-2yrs on the 1860... I did find a Dorcas... Checking.. Yep same family. Go > back to Ellis Campbell in 1840...yep youngest is a girl. She is a girl on > all census except 1850. > Answers to brick walls are there..we just have to use some creative > research. > Marge > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pjpeters2@aol.com [mailto:Pjpeters2@aol.com] > Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:49 PM > To: CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CAMPBELL] RE- WHERE WAS he BORN & WHAST WAS Your Fathers NAME > > His name was Charles Ernest Williams born in Daviess Co., Indiana birthdate > March 10th. His fathers name was George W. Williams abt 1844 IN. and his > mother was Mary Ellen Campbell 1844 Ohio. They both died in OK. > > I just wasn't sure what to do, I hate to put 1876-1878 for my own father. > At first I thought his mother would have know best in the 1880 census, but > that was before I learned how many census takers made!! > > Thanks for your reply....Peggy > > ______________________________ > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > -- > BEGIN-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS > ------------------------------------------------------ > NOTE: This message was trained as non-spam. If this is wrong, > please correct the training as soon as possible. > > Teach CanIt if this mail (ID 19089116) is spam: > Spam: http://filter.rraz.net/b.php?c=s&i=19089116&m=977eefa640e5 > Not spam: http://filter.rraz.net/b.php?c=n&i=19089116&m=977eefa640e5 > Forget vote: http://filter.rraz.net/b.php?c=f&i=19089116&m=977eefa640e5 > ------------------------------------------------------ > END-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS >