I submitted this with a bad subject line (george c)... If you are missing an ancestor, you need to check to see where he was considered to be located in our country's early years of formation. marge -----Original Message----- From: Margie Campbell [mailto:margecam@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 5:35 PM To: 'STEVEN.CAMPBELL@sbcglobal.net'; 'CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com' Subject: RE: George Campbell database Not that interesting if you look at the old maps for VA: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mcampbel/va2/va1606a.htm 1606 & 1609 Charter for VA & North America http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mcampbel/va2/1781a.htm 1781 Virginia boundaries (all for North America actually) Note: follow the links at the bottom of these pages for different maps. I have more to include (the ones not yet linked), but my books are packed away. We leave here Saturday for Texas ( Littlefield)....will take couple days or so to arrive, depending on weather. I originally posted the above maps to my web site due to so many saying there were no Campbell's in VA prior to a certain date...I think there were.. If you are up against a brick wall..check the maps on this site against one for current times & you may just find old George in MD, is indeed George of VA, etc...(that's just a sample). Never let a location stop you from considering a line... Boundaries changed a lot & often back during the formation of our wonderful country. Marge -----Original Message----- From: STEVEN.CAMPBELL@sbcglobal.net [mailto:STEVEN.CAMPBELL@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 2:33 PM To: CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: George Campbell database Wow. This George Campbell database certainly opened a can of worms. The objective of the database, I think, is to identify the Georges that entered the colonies in the mid-1700's. So, I guess what we need to do is look for George Campbells who would have been born prior to 1740. In other words, Georges who would have been old enough to appear on land, will, and census records after 1745. I found it extremely interesting that on the 1800 census there were no George Campbells in Virginia. However, I found land records for George Campbells in at least 3 different areas of Virginia who appeared to be unrelated (St. James Fork, Augusta Co., Amherst/Albemarle Co.). However, I've only found 2 wills for George Campbells between 1750 and 1800 (1777 and 1791). Apparently, one of the Georges either didn't have a will, or one of those two Georges owned land in different parts of the state of VA. I'm going to run over to my genealogy library tonight and look up a pension record for a George Campbell in the Revolutionary War. He was neither of the Georges listed above, but his records might shed light on something. ______________________________

Hello Steven, We have to be carefull about depending on census records for VA in the early years, because many times those records just don't exist anymore. For a variety of reasons, fire, theft, war destruction, etc. So the 1800 census in VA probably did have more Campbell names than might show up on a online search now. For the census years of 1790 and 1800 in VA, it would be much better to reconstruct the census records by using TAX LISTS, or PROPERTY records. That will give you names and dates and locations. This isn't online, but it is one way to find the data, but might take more looking, unless there already are some BOOKS which have been published (www.heritagebooks.com) which cover early VA? If books haven't been pub. yet of actual property tax lists, then it would need time consuming searching thru old courthouse records, but it can be done. To give you a terrible example: New Jersey is totally missing the first few census years, totally LOST, zip, don't exist. I was so shocked when I started looking for BROWER in NJ, which is about as common as SMITH there, and found NONE in the first few years, then I went on the NJ mailing lists and asked what happened? They carefully explained that the records were LOST, it was not because of Fire, or War, just simply LOST. But some wonderful perople, who should be sainted, took the property tax lists for the same periods 1790, 1800, and reconstructed a census and that appears on www.ancestry.com , it is a FEE, but at least it exists and can be searched. Remember you can use ancestry.com at every FHC (LDS) for FREE, and also many Public Libraries, so there is always a way to find how to access these NJ lists. Also, those lists should be in NJ Libraries as well. Best regards, Lilly Martin > -----Original Message----- > From: STEVEN.CAMPBELL@sbcglobal.net [mailto:STEVEN.CAMPBELL@sbcglobal.net] > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 2:33 PM > To: CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: George Campbell database > > > I found it extremely interesting that on the 1800 census there were no > George Campbells in Virginia. > However, I found land records for George Campbells in at least 3 different > areas of Virginia who appeared to be unrelated (St. James Fork, Augusta > Co., > Amherst/Albemarle Co.). However, I've only found 2 wills for George > Campbells between 1750 and 1800 > (1777 and 1791). Apparently, one of the Georges either didn't have a > will, > or one of those two Georges owned land in different parts of the state of > VA. > >