How do I trace my Campbell DNA when there are there are no living males willing to submit to testing? Kathleen > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 07:43:17 +0100 > Subject: [Campbell] Thomas Campbell, NH in 1700s > > > > > > I'm submitting my Campbells again who stayed north until about the mid 1800s. Thomas Campbell was probably born around 1705 in Ireland. His future wife, Jane Davidson, was born in Ireland but we don't know when. However, she immigrated with her parents and siblings in 1728 to America. > > Thomas Campbell married Jane Davidson in Billerica, MA, 1733 and moved to Londonderry, NH, where they had the children Mary (1738-1828), John, Nathaniel (1741-1820), and Hugh Argyle (1744-1810). They had more children who didn't survive to reproduce. > > 1) Mary married John Tufts, moved to Maine and there had the children: Jane, William, Thomas, Jonathan, Susanna, and Annis. > 2) John unknown. He has eluded us completely, although he is said to have had a large family. > 3) Nathaniel married Agnes McCurdy and between Londonderry, NH, and NY state had the children: Jesse, Elizabeth, James, David, Thomas, Alexander, John, Abner, and Robert. > 4) Hugh Argyle married Mary Smith and between Londonderry/Bedford, NH, and NY state had the children: Jane, Benjamin, Caty, Elizabeth, Mary, Margaret, Hugh, Robert, Thomas, Adam, and David. > > I descended from Hugh Argyle Campbell through his son Benjamin Smith Campbell (1773-1852). > > The families and descendants of Nathaniel and Hugh moved from NH to NY, then Ohio, then Indiana, and then after the mid 1800s spread out over the USA and parts of Europe. I conservatively estimate that Thomas and Jane Campbell had at least 30,000 descendants of whom at least 20,000 must still be living. Currently we have over 1300. We have considerable information about many of the descendants. Some of the more common family names are: Tufts, Fancher, Brown, Johnston, Fish, Perkins, Moore, Kitterman, Burns, and Moses. > > If your Campbell ancestors lived in NH during the 1700s, eastern NY (especially Cherry Valley area) during the end of 1700s and beginning of 1800s, Westfied/Portland, NY later, the Sandusky/Bellevue area of Ohio around the mid 1800s, and Valparaiso area of IN in the later 1800s, then we may have a connection. > > Also I'd like to recommend that every male Campbell on this list join the Campbell DNA project, but be sure to take at least the 25-marker test. I did and the results are extremely interesting. It turns out that I most likely belong to the so-called Irish Campbells, who descended from the Irish Clan Cathmhoal and are not related to the Scottish Clan Campbell. When during the 16th and 17th centuries the English kings moved protestant Scots into Ireland to suppress the catholic Irish, the Clan Cathmhoal (pronounced "Cammel" similar to Campbell) assumed the spelling Campbell. So if your ancestors emigrated from Ireland, it's very possible that they were not of Scottish descent. > > George Campbell > _______________________________________ > > Remember to search the archives use this address > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/?list=CAMPBELL > > Browse the archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/CAMPBELL/ > > Contact the List Manager > mailto:[email protected] > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ IM on the go with Messenger on your phone http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9712960

I am asking the same question as my only brother will not take the test. have sent him the package but he still refuses. [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Preuss" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [Campbell] Thomas Campbell, NH in 1700s > > How do I trace my Campbell DNA when there are there are no living males > willing to submit to testing? > Kathleen > > > > > > > > >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 07:43:17 +0100 >> Subject: [Campbell] Thomas Campbell, NH in 1700s >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm submitting my Campbells again who stayed north until about the mid >> 1800s. Thomas Campbell was probably born around 1705 in Ireland. His >> future wife, Jane Davidson, was born in Ireland but we don't know when. >> However, she immigrated with her parents and siblings in 1728 to America. >> >> Thomas Campbell married Jane Davidson in Billerica, MA, 1733 and moved to >> Londonderry, NH, where they had the children Mary (1738-1828), John, >> Nathaniel (1741-1820), and Hugh Argyle (1744-1810). They had more >> children who didn't survive to reproduce. >> >> 1) Mary married John Tufts, moved to Maine and there had the children: >> Jane, William, Thomas, Jonathan, Susanna, and Annis. >> 2) John unknown. He has eluded us completely, although he is said to >> have had a large family. >> 3) Nathaniel married Agnes McCurdy and between Londonderry, NH, and NY >> state had the children: Jesse, Elizabeth, James, David, Thomas, >> Alexander, John, Abner, and Robert. >> 4) Hugh Argyle married Mary Smith and between Londonderry/Bedford, NH, >> and NY state had the children: Jane, Benjamin, Caty, Elizabeth, Mary, >> Margaret, Hugh, Robert, Thomas, Adam, and David. >> >> I descended from Hugh Argyle Campbell through his son Benjamin Smith >> Campbell (1773-1852). >> >> The families and descendants of Nathaniel and Hugh moved from NH to NY, >> then Ohio, then Indiana, and then after the mid 1800s spread out over the >> USA and parts of Europe. I conservatively estimate that Thomas and Jane >> Campbell had at least 30,000 descendants of whom at least 20,000 must >> still be living. Currently we have over 1300. We have considerable >> information about many of the descendants. Some of the more common family >> names are: Tufts, Fancher, Brown, Johnston, Fish, Perkins, Moore, >> Kitterman, Burns, and Moses. >> >> If your Campbell ancestors lived in NH during the 1700s, eastern NY >> (especially Cherry Valley area) during the end of 1700s and beginning of >> 1800s, Westfied/Portland, NY later, the Sandusky/Bellevue area of Ohio >> around the mid 1800s, and Valparaiso area of IN in the later 1800s, then >> we may have a connection. >> >> Also I'd like to recommend that every male Campbell on this list join the >> Campbell DNA project, but be sure to take at least the 25-marker test. I >> did and the results are extremely interesting. It turns out that I most >> likely belong to the so-called Irish Campbells, who descended from the >> Irish Clan Cathmhoal and are not related to the Scottish Clan Campbell. >> When during the 16th and 17th centuries the English kings moved >> protestant Scots into Ireland to suppress the catholic Irish, the Clan >> Cathmhoal (pronounced "Cammel" similar to Campbell) assumed the spelling >> Campbell. So if your ancestors emigrated from Ireland, it's very >> possible that they were not of Scottish descent. >> >> George Campbell >> _______________________________________ >> >> Remember to search the archives use this address >> http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/?list=CAMPBELL >> >> Browse the archives at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/CAMPBELL/ >> >> Contact the List Manager >> mailto:[email protected] >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > IM on the go with Messenger on your phone > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9712960 > _______________________________________ > > Remember to search the archives use this address > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/?list=CAMPBELL > > Browse the archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/CAMPBELL/ > > Contact the List Manager > mailto:[email protected] > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Several have asked what to do if there are no male Campbell relatives willing to take DNA. Unfortunately it must be a male. The reason is that the Y-DNA is only passed on through the male line. Since until recently the family name was also passed on through the male line, this means that only the Y-DNA can be used to trace relationships in a name project, in this case the Campbell name project. If the Campbell male relative is just not willing, then offer to pay for him. Maybe that will shame him into doing it. It's painless, but costs from $100 to $200 depending on the number of markers you want. I would suggest at least 25 markers. If you don't have a Campbell male relative then you'll have to do normal genealogical research until you find one. Both women and men can do the mt-DNA test which traces your female line, but since this isn't usually connected to a specific name it's less useful for genealogy. For more information check the Campbell DNA project. George Campbell