Dear Carol, You have asked an excellent question, and I hope others will chime in here and give some information and move the discussion along. WHO is a serious researcher of George and Margaret? Who can we turn to for help and insight? Don't be afraid to reply here, because we won't bite. We all need to learn together. Since I can only trace my own line back as far as George and Caty, I have never spent time looking at George and Margert other than to "COPY" the names and dates which "everyone" else has listed. Family trees such as www.rootsweb.com have many listings for George and Margaret. In 1776 when George wrote his will, he says he is sick and weak in body. We don't know if that means he is 50 yrs old or 80 years old. But most researchers have listed his birth year as about 1700. Margaret, his wife, could not have been born about 1700, because of the ages of her kids, she is having kids from 1745 thru 1768. After she is widowed in 1777 she remarries to a Mr. Henderson, and when her daughter Ruth married John De Priest 9-19-1791 she signed the record at Amherst Co VA as Margaret Henderson, and the surety was given by George Campbell. Her legal name is Margaret Henderson, meaning that she has remarried to a man named Henderson, not that her maiden name was Henderson. That as of 9-19-1791 she can legally sign docements, such as her daughter's marriage, by the name of Margaret Henderson, and not her fomer married name of Campbell. This George Campbell , who signed the surety for the marriage of Ruth, might be the brother of Ruth Campbell De Priest, but he can not be George Campbell who married Caty, because he was already DEAD before that date, as evidenced by Will Book #3. I don't know the death date for Margaret, but she was living as of 9-19-1791, that was 14 years after her husband George Campbell had died. A woman's child bearing years can be said to be about from the age of 15 thru 45, those boundaries might be stretched a little bit, a few years on one side and the other. More often than not the age range is closer to 20 yrs to 40 yrs of age, basically. I think the most data recovered from any of the kids of George and Margaret, is from the 4th child born, his name is Archibald Campbell. His birth is listed as 4-18-1754 Albemarle Co VA, but in his War Pension Application, it is listed as 4-1-1763 Amherst Co VA. Pat Carter is a researcher who has worked on this man and his records. I hope Pat is reading this! and will reply. In the Application it states that the Soldier is 71 yrs old, and was in the VA Line, the date of the App. is 6-23-1834 at Greenbrier Co., VA. He died 7-20-1857. The Revolutionary War Pension Application is # W10572, BLW#61301-160-55, VA Line. As far as the birth dates of the OTHER kids, I am not sure what documents, or records are used to determine the dates given. If Archibald was born about 1763, by his own statement, and he was the 4th of 8 births (last birth was twins) for Margaret, then we could say that Archibald was probably born about at the mid-point of the birthing years for Margaret. Let's say that Margaret was about 30 yrs old when Archibald was born in 1763, because the mid point of the 20-40 yrs of age birthing span would be about 30 years of age. If Margaret Campbell was about 30 yrs old in 1763, that would make her birth year about 1733. If her first born was born in 1745 and her last birth was 1768, then her birth year could be approximated to be 1725, making her 20 at the first birth and 43 at her last delivery, of twins. This age analysis of Margaret Campbell, wife of George, is based upon the Rev War record of her son Archibald. If we had MORE records and documents to look at for other kids of hers, the picture would widen up, and we could understand her age better. Best regards, Lilly Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Harlow" <charlow1@ntelos.net> To: <CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 9:46 PM Subject: Re: [CAMPBELL] Reply to Carol H., re: George Campbell, is he s/o George? > My apologizies, I stand corrected. > How do we know the birth year of Margaret and her children? I am not > doubting the information just curious as to how it was obtained. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lilly Martin" <malik@scs-net.org> > To: <CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 9:14 AM > Subject: [CAMPBELL] Reply to Carol H., re: George Campbell, is he s/o > George? > > > > Dear Carol, > > I have never seen any proof that George Campbell b. 1720, who married > Caty, > > was the son of George Campbell b. 1700, who married Margaret. > >

Dear Carol, I have never seen any proof that George Campbell b. 1720, who married Caty, was the son of George Campbell b. 1700, who married Margaret. Both men are named George Campbell, both men certainly did live in the very same area, that of Amherst Co., VA., both men died there as well. And the older man did name a son George Campbell (Jr.) as per his Will with is on file in Amherst Co records. But what is there which will link the 2 men together? I am from the George Campbell who married Caty. Did any descendant of George and Margaret ever marry any descendant of George and Caty? This might prove they were "cousins", as we know that cousins marrying was very common and acceptable then. But I can not see any data which shows any intermarriage among the descendants of George and Margaret, with the George and Caty "clan". Does anyone have any data to show on that? In fact, it would appear that most if not all the children of George and Margaret moved away, and did not stay in the Amherst or Nelson Co VA areas. Does this mean that they had no sibling in Amherst Co, such as an older brother named George, to keep them there? Or was the presence of George Campbell b. 1720 the reason they moved away? Was he their much older, half-brother, and perhaps they felt ill at ease with him? George Campbell b. 1720(aprox) could not have been the s/o Margaret, since she was born about 1725, so that relaitionship will not work out on paper. But Margaret could have been his very young step-mother, his father's second wife, and mother of a 'second' family of kids for George Campbell b. 1700 (aprox). Perhaps this is a possible scenerio: George Campbell b. 1700 gets married to an unknown lady, and they have a son George Campbell (jr.) about 1720. She dies and George Sr. raises George Jr. George Sr. gets married for the 2nd time to a young lady named Margaret, she is 5 yrs younger than his son, and they start having a family together, with the first child born in 1745, when George Jr is already 25 yrs old. Her last child is born in 1768, she is approximately 43 yrs old then, and George Jr, her children's older half brother would be then 48 years old. George Jr's children are therefor about the same basic age range as his half-siblings by his step mother Margaret. This is how it could be, based on if the 2 men are really Father and Son. But the other scenerio which might work just as well, is that the George b. 1700, had a son named George (jr.) and that son moved away from the area, along with all his siblings, and that is why we do not know anymore about him. If this scenerio is true, then the George Campbell b. 1720 is not related to George Campbell and Margaret, but simply another man with the same name, in the same area in VA at about the same basic time frame. If there is any document or reason to believe that the 2 men are related, other than their name, I would LOVE to see that and would appreciate to hear any reason to even suppose or propose the theory that they are related. Here are some IDEAS to look for, which might tend to prove a relaitionship between George b. 1700 and George b. 1720: 1. A land record which names them both? Father and Son many times recorded land passing between them. 2. A Bible record? 3. A church record? 4. A newspaper record? 5. An intermarriage between some descendant of George and Margaret and George and Caty? 6. A court document refering to a relationship? 7. The land that George and Caty had: was it next to, or extremely near to the land of George and Margaret? Did they SHARE a boundary? That might point a finger toward a relationship. 8. Concerning the descendants of George and Margaret: do we have any researchers of them, which have old letters, or family trees, or even old family Legends which show a relationship? 9. Concerning George Campbell b. 1720: did he ever refer to his Father's land, or his Father's kids, or such in any land or court documents? How did he buy the 480 acres of land he had? Did that purchase, or aquistion have any connections to George and Margaret? That study would intail looking at the FIRST purchase records of the land that George had, and determining WHO he bought it from, and reading thru it all to see if his FATHER might have sold him some land, or given some land?? Would love to hear from anyone else as to their thoughts, opinions, feelings, etc. Best regards, Lilly Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Harlow" <charlow1@ntelos.net> To: <CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 5:48 AM Subject: Re: [CAMPBELL] Connections between the various Campbell families of VA. > Lilly, > I thought it had been determined that George Campbell d 1792 h/o Catherine > (Caty) was a son of George & Margaret #1 on your list > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lilly Martin" <malik@scs-net.org> > To: <CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 10:33 AM > Subject: [CAMPBELL] Connections between the various Campbell families of VA. > > > > Dear Gloria, > > > > I found there are 7 distinct and unrelated Campbell families in Amherst > and > > Nelson Co., VA. > > > > When I first started studying my Campbell ancestry, I thought that all the > > people named Campbell in Nelson and Amherst Co VA were all related > somehow, > > but they are not. > > > > Some of the people named Campbell, who were neighbors and friends were not > > related to each other at all, but from very different ancestry, but only > > happened to have the same surname. > > > > The 7 men named Campbell, who are unrelated as far as documentation now > > exists are: > > > > 1. George Campbell, m. Margaret > > 2. George Campbell, m. Catherine (aka Caty) > > 3. James Campbell, Sr, m. Mary Smith > > 4. Henry Campbell , m. Charity > > 5. Lawrence Campbell, m. Henrietta > > 6. Francis Campbell, m. Isabelle > > 7. John Campbell, m. Amelia Coffey > > > > There is no known proof that these 7 men relate to each other, however > there > > may indeed come forth proof later, which says that #2 above is the son of > an > > early first marriage of #1 above. And perhaps #7 above is the son of an > > early first marriage of #6 above, and perhaps #3 is actually the son of #2 > > above. At this point in time I do not have proof to those supositions, so > > they remain doubtfull until proven. > > Also, there might be a relationship between #4 and #5, because they had > some > > land deals between them, which might tend to say they were related, > perhaps > > back in Scotland. > > > > As far as naming practices, the families all used some of the same names, > > even though they were from very different and unrelated ancestry. I wish > > names could be a better clue as to which group they came from, but it can > > not be counted on, since several groups, unrelated used the same name. > > > > One thing we know for sure, is that the name George is a real favorite! > > > > Best regards, > > Lilly Martin > > > >

Sylvia, I would love to see the Pictures !!!!!!!!! sgt_sam_wash_co@yahoo.com Sam Campbell SylviaCamdenRay@aol.com wrote: Hi Carol, You and I share so many family lines!! I got 2 new pictures on my last visit up that way, tin types of Ellis Henry Campbell and Mary Jane Crist. Not sure when they were taken but my aunt thought it was probably not too long after they were married or maybe even when they were married. She was so pretty! I also got pictures of Will and Georgie Campbell and their daughter Hattie, what an adorable little girl. Let me know if you'd like copies. Sylvia ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.

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My apologizies, I stand corrected. How do we know the birth year of Margaret and her children? I am not doubting the information just curious as to how it was obtained. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lilly Martin" <malik@scs-net.org> To: <CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 9:14 AM Subject: [CAMPBELL] Reply to Carol H., re: George Campbell, is he s/o George? > Dear Carol, > I have never seen any proof that George Campbell b. 1720, who married Caty, > was the son of George Campbell b. 1700, who married Margaret. > > Both men are named George Campbell, both men certainly did live in the very > same area, that of Amherst Co., VA., both men died there as well. And the > older man did name a son George Campbell (Jr.) as per his Will with is on > file in Amherst Co records. > > But what is there which will link the 2 men together? I am from the George > Campbell who married Caty. Did any descendant of George and Margaret ever > marry any descendant of George and Caty? This might prove they were > "cousins", as we know that cousins marrying was very common and acceptable > then. But I can not see any data which shows any intermarriage among the > descendants of George and Margaret, with the George and Caty "clan". Does > anyone have any data to show on that? > > In fact, it would appear that most if not all the children of George and > Margaret moved away, and did not stay in the Amherst or Nelson Co VA areas. > Does this mean that they had no sibling in Amherst Co, such as an older > brother named George, to keep them there? Or was the presence of George > Campbell b. 1720 the reason they moved away? Was he their much older, > half-brother, and perhaps they felt ill at ease with him? > > George Campbell b. 1720(aprox) could not have been the s/o Margaret, since > she was born about 1725, so that relaitionship will not work out on paper. > But Margaret could have been his very young step-mother, his father's second > wife, and mother of a 'second' family of kids for George Campbell b. 1700 > (aprox). > > Perhaps this is a possible scenerio: George Campbell b. 1700 gets married to > an unknown lady, and they have a son George Campbell (jr.) about 1720. She > dies and George Sr. raises George Jr. > George Sr. gets married for the 2nd time to a young lady named Margaret, she > is 5 yrs younger than his son, and they start having a family together, with > the first child born in 1745, when George Jr is already 25 yrs old. Her > last child is born in 1768, she is approximately 43 yrs old then, and George > Jr, her children's older half brother would be then 48 years old. > > George Jr's children are therefor about the same basic age range as his > half-siblings by his step mother Margaret. > > This is how it could be, based on if the 2 men are really Father and Son. > But the other scenerio which might work just as well, is that the George b. > 1700, had a son named George (jr.) and that son moved away from the area, > along with all his siblings, and that is why we do not know anymore about > him. If this scenerio is true, then the George Campbell b. 1720 is not > related to George Campbell and Margaret, but simply another man with the > same name, in the same area in VA at about the same basic time frame. > > If there is any document or reason to believe that the 2 men are related, > other than their name, I would LOVE to see that and would appreciate to hear > any reason to even suppose or propose the theory that they are related. > > Here are some IDEAS to look for, which might tend to prove a relaitionship > between George b. 1700 and George b. 1720: > > 1. A land record which names them both? Father and Son many times recorded > land passing between them. > 2. A Bible record? > 3. A church record? > 4. A newspaper record? > 5. An intermarriage between some descendant of George and Margaret and > George and Caty? > 6. A court document refering to a relationship? > 7. The land that George and Caty had: was it next to, or extremely near to > the land of George and Margaret? Did they SHARE a boundary? That might > point a finger toward a relationship. > 8. Concerning the descendants of George and Margaret: do we have any > researchers of them, which have old letters, or family trees, or even old > family Legends which show a relationship? > 9. Concerning George Campbell b. 1720: did he ever refer to his Father's > land, or his Father's kids, or such in any land or court documents? > How did he buy the 480 acres of land he had? Did that purchase, or > aquistion have any connections to George and Margaret? That study would > intail looking at the FIRST purchase records of the land that George had, > and determining WHO he bought it from, and reading thru it all to see if his > FATHER might have sold him some land, or given some land?? > > Would love to hear from anyone else as to their thoughts, opinions, > feelings, etc. > Best regards, > Lilly Martin > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carol Harlow" <charlow1@ntelos.net> > To: <CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 5:48 AM > Subject: Re: [CAMPBELL] Connections between the various Campbell families of > VA. > > > > Lilly, > > I thought it had been determined that George Campbell d 1792 h/o Catherine > > (Caty) was a son of George & Margaret #1 on your list > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Lilly Martin" <malik@scs-net.org> > > To: <CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 10:33 AM > > Subject: [CAMPBELL] Connections between the various Campbell families of > VA. > > > > > > > Dear Gloria, > > > > > > I found there are 7 distinct and unrelated Campbell families in Amherst > > and > > > Nelson Co., VA. > > > > > > When I first started studying my Campbell ancestry, I thought that all > the > > > people named Campbell in Nelson and Amherst Co VA were all related > > somehow, > > > but they are not. > > > > > > Some of the people named Campbell, who were neighbors and friends were > not > > > related to each other at all, but from very different ancestry, but only > > > happened to have the same surname. > > > > > > The 7 men named Campbell, who are unrelated as far as documentation now > > > exists are: > > > > > > 1. George Campbell, m. Margaret > > > 2. George Campbell, m. Catherine (aka Caty) > > > 3. James Campbell, Sr, m. Mary Smith > > > 4. Henry Campbell , m. Charity > > > 5. Lawrence Campbell, m. Henrietta > > > 6. Francis Campbell, m. Isabelle > > > 7. John Campbell, m. Amelia Coffey > > > > > > There is no known proof that these 7 men relate to each other, however > > there > > > may indeed come forth proof later, which says that #2 above is the son > of > > an > > > early first marriage of #1 above. And perhaps #7 above is the son of an > > > early first marriage of #6 above, and perhaps #3 is actually the son of > #2 > > > above. At this point in time I do not have proof to those supositions, > so > > > they remain doubtfull until proven. > > > Also, there might be a relationship between #4 and #5, because they had > > some > > > land deals between them, which might tend to say they were related, > > perhaps > > > back in Scotland. > > > > > > As far as naming practices, the families all used some of the same > names, > > > even though they were from very different and unrelated ancestry. I > wish > > > names could be a better clue as to which group they came from, but it > can > > > not be counted on, since several groups, unrelated used the same name. > > > > > > One thing we know for sure, is that the name George is a real favorite! > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Lilly Martin > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. 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JOEL CAMPBELL Joel CAMPBELL was born about 1776, based on the 1850 VA census. He married Margaret “Peggy” Patterson on June 13, 1799 in Amherst County, VA. The minister was William Crawford. Joel CAMPBELL’s mother was listed as Caty Campbell. Peggy PATTERSON’s mother was listed as Betsey Patterson. On the 1850 Virginia census for Rockbridge County, Joel CAMPBELL, age 74, was living with his daughter Louisa McP. CAMPBELL, age 40, and Lucinda E. J. Campbell, age 38. He wrote his will on December 2, 1850. His will listed his children as Charles Ptolover CAMPBELL, Tarlton Patterson CAMPBELL, Rebecca Louis Pomplin PATTERSON, Louisa McPheerson CAMPBELL, and Alexander CAMPBELL. Chas. P. CAMPBELL died on June 19, 1858 in Rockbridge Co., VA, at age 54, and his parents were listed as Joel & Margaret CAMPBELL. It said he was born in Nelson Co., VA. Tarlton CAMPBELL died on Dec. 16, 1861 in Rockbridge Co., VA, at age 62, and his parents were also listed as Joel & Margaret CAMPBELL. It said he was born in Rockbridge Co., VA. Joel CAMPBELL was not on the 1860 census. His will was presented for probate in 1887, after his daughter Lucinda died. In the will “daughter Lucinda shall have house and land consisting of 37 acres and shall care for sister, Louisa.”

Hey all you VA Campbell descendants. I enjoy reading all your posts, but they never go far enough. I am searching for Campbells in Darlington, SC in 1840 to 1880 era. Do any of you guys have any descendants of the VA Campbells going to Darlington, SC? Thanks, Cal Campbell

Oh, Wow! I thought I had put everyone's mind at ease that Ambrose Campbell, son of Henry and Charity Campbell, did not marry Nancy Gillespie. Nancy Gillespie married Ambrose Campbell, son of George Campbell in 1799. If you do a careful reading of George Campbell's will (1791) you will note that he mentions Joel and Ambrose as "not yet of age" (21 yrs). The Joel and Ambrose of George's family are often mistaken for the Joel and Ambrose of Henry's family. Henry's Joel and Ambrose are MUCH older than George's sons. Henry's son Joel was born 1748 and died 1832 at 84 yrs of age. Ambrose was born in 1740 in Scotland and died in Nelson Co., VA in 1812 at 72 yrs of age. Now if anyone has any information on Aaron or John, both sons of Henry and Charity, I would be most grateful for the information. Aaron was no doubt the first born, as he is named an executor of Henry's will in 1772. John was given only 1 shilling for some unknown reason. I thought I had found Aaron as descendants of an Aaron Campbell went to KY as Tandy Campbell did, and then on to Lafayette Co., MO where Tandy died in 1845, but another researcher says I am mistaken, so I'm still trying to pin that information down. The last sure information I have on Aaron Campbell was a deed to Lawrence Campbell in 1787 in Amherst Co., VA. Phyllis Pengilly

I have Revolutionary War pension records from a John, William, and Henry Campbell, all of the Amherst/Nelson/Albemarle County areas. They have extremely detailed information about each brother. George & Caty had thirteen children, according to George's will, dated 1791. They do not refer to them as children of George & Caty, but this is undeniable when you take into consideration their names, location, dates of birth, etc. The three men refer to each other as brothers in the records. The pensions are filed by their wives, therefore, they also give the men's death dates. I think this should clear up a lot of misinformation being distributed on George & Caty's children. Below is a summary of information from those three Revolutionary War pension records: * John CAMPBELL *was born in 1750 in Albemarle Co., VA and moved to Amherst Co. when he was a small boy. He married *Frances* (--) in February 1779 in Amherst Co., VA. Frances (--) CAMPBELL was born about 1761. She was still alive on March 11, 1842 according to pension records. John CAMPBELL was drafted in Amherst, VA. in 1781. He served as a private in the militia under Captain John Loving for four months and was at Yorktown. John was also on the Guilford Expedition in a volunteer rifle company commanded by Captain James Dillard for “not quite” three months. He died on January 29, 1838 in Amherst Co., VA.** *William CAMPBELL* was born in 1754 in Albemarle Co., VA and moved to Amherst Co. when he was a small boy. In 1832 he was a resident of Nelson Co., VA. He married *Sarah* “Salley” (--) CAMPBELL on December 22, 1785 by Rev. Benjamin Burgy of the Baptist Church with a license from Amherst Co., VA. She was born about 1763. Sarah (--) CAMPBELL was alive on January 29, 1849, but did not appear on the 1850 Virginia census. William and Sarah “Salley” named three children in the pension records: James Campbell, born October 7, 1786; Nansey Campbell, born December 25, 1788; and William Campbell, Jr., born August 17, 1796. William CAMPBELL entered military service in 1779 and marched from Amherst Co. to Holly Springs, ten miles south of Richmond, where he served for three months. “He returned home and after a short time marched under Captain John Loving from Amherst County to the lower part of Virginia and to several positions and finally York where he was present at the surrender of Lord Cornwallis on October 19, 1781.” William died on April 16, 1836 in Nelson Co., VA. ** *Henry CAMPBELL* was born in February 1764 in Amherst Co., VA, “in the part which is now Nelson.” Henry married Sarah (--) CAMPBELL on May 19, 1786 in Amherst Co., VA, by the Rev. Benjamin Coleman of the Baptist Church. Sarah was born between 1764 and 1765 and was still alive on January 25, 1844, according to pension records. Henry CAMPBELL was “drafted in the militia of Amherst Co.” as a private “and marched on a tour of three months,” “except for a day or two,” “under Capt. James Dillard from Amherst Co. to North Carolina. He arrived on the battle ground of Guilford just before the termination of the engagement. The company was not in the battle.” “He was again drafted from Amherst Co. in 1781 and marched under Capt. John Loving for four months and was at the siege of Yorktown.” He lived in Nelson County until his death on January 13, 1835. **

We are 5th cousins, three times removed. Are you planning to come to the Campbell Kids Reunion on October 8 in Nelson County, VA? Warm personal regards, Rosemary -----Original Message----- From: STEVEN.CAMPBELL@sbcglobal.net [mailto:STEVEN.CAMPBELL@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 5:44 PM To: CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: New Campbell I've finally joined the Campbell listserv. Let me give a quick rundown of my genealogy, in case anyone here is related to me and wants to share information. George Campbell (d. 1791 in Amherst Co., VA) & Catherine "Caty" (---) --------------- Edward Campbell (d. 1840's in Rockbridge Co., VA) & Frances Camron (d. 1840's in Rockbridge Co., VA) --------------- Joel Campbell (1788 in Rockbridge Co., VA-1859 in Rockbridge Co., VA)& Esther Shaw (1791-1860's in Rockbridge Co., VA) Joel is the brother of Seley (b. 1790) Campbell Cash and Ambrose Campbell (b. 1782). --------------- Robert R. Campbell (1818/1821 in Rockbridge Co., VA- 1890's in Rockbridge Co., VA) & Elizabeth Weeks (second wife)(1835 in VA-1916 in WV) --------------- Riley A. Campbell (1856 in VA-1932 in WV) & Dicey Moran (1852 in VA-1935 in WV) ---------------- Douglas Lee Campbell (1883 in Vesuvius, VA-1952 in WV) & Pearl Virginia Bragg (1891 in WV-1971 in WV) ---------------- Jesse Arthur Campbell (1907 in WV-1974 in NJ) & Margaret Juanita Bennett (1921 in WV-1968 in NJ) ---------------- Jesse & Juanita were my paternal grandparents. ______________________________

My friend and cousin A. T. Powell, Jr kindly sent me a website which had posted a copy of the Will of George Campbell, which is in Will Book 1, page 334, of Amherst Co VA records. This is the man who was married to Margaret. This is the man that some researchers have said was the Father of George Campbell, who married Caty. The Will is written 11-1-1776, and it is probabted 5-5-1777. To see the Will, go here: http://www.gencircles.com/users/bootsunc/1/data/255 The researcher is Wanda K. Gunther, and she appears to have alot of MADDOX family names. Now lets discuss this Will. From reading the exact wording of the Will, and the order in which the children are named, I think we can find some anwers. For example: the FIRST child named is Catherine, and she is awarded 20 pds. It has always been listed that this Catherine was born in 1745, and that she would be the FIRST child born to George Campbell b. 1700 and his wife Margaret Campbell b. 1725 (these birth years are aprox). As you see, there was a very big difference in ages between George and Margaret, almost a generation difference. Margaret would have been about 20 years old when she bore Catherine, and Catherine would have been about 31 years old when her Father wrote his Will. The SECOND child named is John , and we have listed him as born about 1748, and he died 1-25-1803 Greensville, VA. I have not researched this man, but I have wondered if he was the father of a girl named Polly (mary?) who married John Campbell, s/o George Campbell, Sr and Elizabeth? George Sr is s/o George Campbell and Caty. This second child named in the Will, is also the second child born, according to the birth years listed. He was born about 3 yrs after Catherine, and was 28 yrs old when his father's Will was written. John is awarded 15 pds. Now we come to the rest of the children listed: Elizabeth (b. 1752), Archibald (b. 1754), George (b. ?), Edley (b. 1761), Thomas (b. 1762), Margaret (b. 1768 twin), Ruth (b. 1768 twin). If you note the birth dates I have listed, they are in the EXACT birth order, starting from biggest to smallest, who are the Twin girls. In other words, looking at the exact order given in the wording of the Will, the names are in the Exact order of birth, from oldest to youngest. This must have been designed as such, and not by mere accident. As I can see it, this Will of George Campbell b. 1700 was written with the Birth Order noted, he gave his ELDEST child more than the rest, and he gave to his ELDEST son, John, the next largest amount listed. If this analysis is correct, then the son of George Campbell and Margaret, who they named George (jr), was born about 1755 to 1760 time frame. This George Campbell possibly left the Amherst Co VA area and that is why we don't know more about him. This would tend to throw a very heavy 'doubt' on the scenerio in which George Campbell b. 1720, who married Caty, could have been the ELDEST son of George, prior to his marriage to Margaret, who was 5 yrs younger than George Campbell who married Caty. I would love to hear from any researcher who is a descendant or connected to or just researching the children of George and Margaret. I come from George and Caty, and I would love to know who his parents are, but so far I see nothing to tie him to George and Margaret. Best regards, Lilly Martin

I've finally joined the Campbell listserv. Let me give a quick rundown of my genealogy, in case anyone here is related to me and wants to share information. George Campbell (d. 1791 in Amherst Co., VA) & Catherine "Caty" (---) --------------- Edward Campbell (d. 1840's in Rockbridge Co., VA) & Frances Camron (d. 1840's in Rockbridge Co., VA) --------------- Joel Campbell (1788 in Rockbridge Co., VA-1859 in Rockbridge Co., VA)& Esther Shaw (1791-1860's in Rockbridge Co., VA) Joel is the brother of Seley (b. 1790) Campbell Cash and Ambrose Campbell (b. 1782). --------------- Robert R. Campbell (1818/1821 in Rockbridge Co., VA- 1890's in Rockbridge Co., VA) & Elizabeth Weeks (second wife)(1835 in VA-1916 in WV) --------------- Riley A. Campbell (1856 in VA-1932 in WV) & Dicey Moran (1852 in VA-1935 in WV) ---------------- Douglas Lee Campbell (1883 in Vesuvius, VA-1952 in WV) & Pearl Virginia Bragg (1891 in WV-1971 in WV) ---------------- Jesse Arthur Campbell (1907 in WV-1974 in NJ) & Margaret Juanita Bennett (1921 in WV-1968 in NJ) ---------------- Jesse & Juanita were my paternal grandparents.

Attn> A.T.Powell We will certainly keep your sister and family in our hearts and prayers. Sincerely, Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: Atpowelljr@aol.com To: CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 11:21 AM Subject: [CAMPBELL] RE-Prayer request For My Sister who is under HOSPICE CARE AT HOME COUSINS WHO wish to offer prayer for My sister who is under Hospice care at her sons home in Fla. In order that he would not delete an unknown E-MAIL PLEASE PUT INTO SUBJECT SO; CUZ PLEASE READ BEFORE DELETING; <gdow@se.rr.com> Thanks CUZ A T & Leona <atpowelljr@aol.com> ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429

Lilly, I thought it had been determined that George Campbell d 1792 h/o Catherine (Caty) was a son of George & Margaret #1 on your list ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lilly Martin" <malik@scs-net.org> To: <CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 10:33 AM Subject: [CAMPBELL] Connections between the various Campbell families of VA. > Dear Gloria, > > I found there are 7 distinct and unrelated Campbell families in Amherst and > Nelson Co., VA. > > When I first started studying my Campbell ancestry, I thought that all the > people named Campbell in Nelson and Amherst Co VA were all related somehow, > but they are not. > > Some of the people named Campbell, who were neighbors and friends were not > related to each other at all, but from very different ancestry, but only > happened to have the same surname. > > The 7 men named Campbell, who are unrelated as far as documentation now > exists are: > > 1. George Campbell, m. Margaret > 2. George Campbell, m. Catherine (aka Caty) > 3. James Campbell, Sr, m. Mary Smith > 4. Henry Campbell , m. Charity > 5. Lawrence Campbell, m. Henrietta > 6. Francis Campbell, m. Isabelle > 7. John Campbell, m. Amelia Coffey > > There is no known proof that these 7 men relate to each other, however there > may indeed come forth proof later, which says that #2 above is the son of an > early first marriage of #1 above. And perhaps #7 above is the son of an > early first marriage of #6 above, and perhaps #3 is actually the son of #2 > above. At this point in time I do not have proof to those supositions, so > they remain doubtfull until proven. > Also, there might be a relationship between #4 and #5, because they had some > land deals between them, which might tend to say they were related, perhaps > back in Scotland. > > As far as naming practices, the families all used some of the same names, > even though they were from very different and unrelated ancestry. I wish > names could be a better clue as to which group they came from, but it can > not be counted on, since several groups, unrelated used the same name. > > One thing we know for sure, is that the name George is a real favorite! > > Best regards, > Lilly Martin > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gloria Jarrell" <gjarrell@pivot.net> > To: <CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 5:05 PM > Subject: Re: [CAMPBELL] Ambrose Campbell's children; Amherst Co., VA > > > > Well do you think it odd that the Henry Campbell that came from Scotland > > that had a son named Ambrose and then George would name his son Ambrose do > > you think there might be a connection to George and Henry?Gloria > > ~Wehali Usdi~<Look not at the Eyes but at the Soul> > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <Mstrekken@aol.com> > > To: <CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 7:46 PM > > Subject: Re: [CAMPBELL] Ambrose Campbell's children; Amherst Co., VA > > > > > > > Thanks Gloria for trying. :) Having three Ambroses is quite trying ha > > > ha! > > > Bonnie <>< > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > ancestors > > > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > > > > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta > rgetid=5429 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > > New content added every business day. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Hello Marvin, Did you need info about this family line? Joel Campbell b. 1745 Scotland d. 4-9-1832, Will dated 4-7-1832, available on the Library of Virginia website. Joel Campbell, s/o Henry and Charity. Joel Campbell, m. Elizabeth Mills. Kids: Cornelius, Lucy, Wiley, Lewis, Catlett, Mildred-Milly, and Stilby-Stilly. Best regards, Lilly Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marvin" <marv3@redrivernet.com> To: <CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 3:52 PM Subject: [CAMPBELL] marriage > Oct 7 1790 Joseph Reynolds Allcock to Stilley Campbell Amherst County Dad Joel Campbell > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429 >

Dear Sylvia, Thanks for shareing this with me. Concerning the children of Benjamin Wright, s/o Francis b. 1767, I do know that I come from Moses Wright, who married Elizabeth Ann Whitehead, d/o John. "IF" it is ever proven correct, that George T. Campbell b. 1824 d. 1856, was a son of Cornelius Campbell and Catherine Campbell, d/o Henry Campbell and Sarah Wright, d/o Benjamin, then I would be descended from 2 siblings: Sarah and Moses, who are both children of Benjamin Wright and Elizabeth. George T. Campbell is my "mystery' ancestor. Many researchers say he comes from Cornelius, s/o George and Elizabeth, s/o George and Caty. But we still have do proof of that. I would love to find even one researcher who is connected to any child of Cornelius Campbell and Catherine Campbell, who married in 1816 at Nelson Co VA. So far I have never found anyone related to them. Best regards, LIlly Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: <SylviaCamdenRay@aol.com> To: <CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [CAMPBELL] William George Campbell > Hi Lilly, > > I'm from the same Wright family too! My line: > Francis Wright and Mary Hawkins > Benjamin Wright and Elizabeth (unknown) > Jesse Wright and Dicey Gillespie > Dr. William Wright and Rachel Camden > Susannah Josephine Wright and Charles Henry Wright (he was from Henrico) > Lena Gray Wright and William Carrington Camden > Theodore Wilson Camden and Evelyn Kirby (my parents) (her mother was Mary > Kate Campbell, daughter of Ellis Henry Campbell and Mary Jane Crist) > > Sylvia > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

HOWDY, MY Mother was an Amherst County Campbell before she Married an Amherst Powell, in 1924. I was Born in Amherst Co Va in 1926. A T & Leona < atpowelljr@aol.com>

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Hi Carol, You and I share so many family lines!! I got 2 new pictures on my last visit up that way, tin types of Ellis Henry Campbell and Mary Jane Crist. Not sure when they were taken but my aunt thought it was probably not too long after they were married or maybe even when they were married. She was so pretty! I also got pictures of Will and Georgie Campbell and their daughter Hattie, what an adorable little girl. Let me know if you'd like copies. Sylvia

I have the same Wright line. From Moses Jr who married Polly Cash, their daughter Odessa "Dicy" married James Washington Humphries, their son Samuel Houston his daughter Viola Virginia married Emmett Hite and my father Hansford Hite. Sylvia, the world keeps getting smaller and smaller, doesn't it. Carol Harlow ----- Original Message ----- From: <SylviaCamdenRay@aol.com> To: <CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 9:26 PM Subject: Re: [CAMPBELL] William George Campbell > Hi Lilly, > > I'm from the same Wright family too! My line: > Francis Wright and Mary Hawkins > Benjamin Wright and Elizabeth (unknown) > Jesse Wright and Dicey Gillespie > Dr. William Wright and Rachel Camden > Susannah Josephine Wright and Charles Henry Wright (he was from Henrico) > Lena Gray Wright and William Carrington Camden > Theodore Wilson Camden and Evelyn Kirby (my parents) (her mother was Mary > Kate Campbell, daughter of Ellis Henry Campbell and Mary Jane Crist) > > Sylvia > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >