Hello: I am related to Hugh Campbell who had a son Charles. My Hugh was born in 1694 in Galston, Ayrshire,Scotland. He married Mary Paterson and they had nine children. Three were born in Galston, the others in Connecticut. Would these be connected? Jean Bunch ----- Original Message ----- From: <STEVEN.CAMPBELL@sbcglobal.net> To: <CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 10:12 PM Subject: [CAMPBELL] Mary Chiles > I can answer some of the Mary Chiles questions. > > I know that she was born in 1920, and someone told me she may be > deceased now. She was a genealogist--not a "professional". The > contact info for her that used to be on her webpage was no longer > accurate. > > The only book she ever published was the 800-page "Chiles-Childs > Family History." It's in the Cincinnati library because she was > from Ohio at the time. > > According to her family history charts, which have now been > removed from the Web, some Campbells married some Chiles/Childs > in the mid-1700's, hence, the link. > > As for using the public library, actually, I am a professional > librarian at a public library, so I'm working on trying to get > the book transferred through ILL. > > When I get the info, I'll pass it on. Unfortunately, I have a > feeling it's going to say it's source is simply "oral history > passed on from generation to generation," as Mary stated in the > excerpt I posted here earlier. > > I've been talking to another Campbell researcher who lives near > me, and she has some interesting info about a Hugh Campbell. She > believes this Hugh Campbell may be connected to Charles Campbell. > I'll try to post her info this weekend. It has something to do > with a Mary or Margaret Trotter, a name which I thought I've > heard mentioned here before. > > As with everything I'm finding, no one appears to have any > credible sources for anything they're telling me. I haven't > found any Charles Campbell who purchased any land anywhere in > Virginia between 1712 and 1724. > > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/194 - Release Date: 12/07/2005 > >

when I started my family reserach all I had was my dads death (by dad died in CA in 1954 when I was 9 years old) certificate and wow did it have wrong information on it. The only right information it has was his birth year and birthplace. It had his mothers maiden name as McCall and that was her married name and it had father unkown and in fact his father was Arthur Campbell who had died in 1928 and his mother remarried a Mr. McCall. So I wrote the town my dad was born in and got the right information. Now on my birth certificate it has my mothers maiden name as Horgan and in fact that is her married name before she married my father. My mothers maiden name is Gardner and I knew that. I find on birth certifcate's can also have wrong information and so I find myself writing to the state and town they was born in as they have the right facts. Now my husbands birth certificate says he was born Sept 12, 1940 and in fact he was born Sept 21, 1940 and that is what the bible says and all his school records someone just turned the numbers around. So if you know nothing about your family and there is wrong information I find writing the place of the birth to be better. Roberta Campbell Hopper -------Original Message------- From: sandmot Date: 12/08/05 05:30:08 To: CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CAMPBELL] To all persons Questioning Facts lilly, you said ( So I would always believe a Birth certificate before I ever believed any death certificate.)i have a birth certificate that is born example 7/11 and it was suppose to be 9/11..a 7 can me taken for a 9 very easy,but to correct it was quite a lot of other documents of which i could not find..they should have done it as july versus september..so caution to alot of documents.sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lilly Martin" <malik@scs-net.org> To: <CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 4:38 AM Subject: [CAMPBELL] To all persons Questioning Facts > To all others researching, > > I have only been doing research fro 4 yrs, so I have not learned alot, but > a few basic things I learned the old fashioned hard way. > > 1. Never believe that a Will will name all children. A Will will name > only those kids or persons that the writer of the Will would LIKE to give > something to, or to remember in the Will. > > A rich son might not be mentioned, but his dead brother's kids might. > Why? The rich son is already set up for life, why give him more, when he > doesn't need it? I can show you many Wills of men with large families, > and only a few kids are mentioned in the Will, so the names in a Will do > not necessarily equate to the number of children a man/woman has. > > I can show you a death bed Will of a young father, who forgot to name one > 4 yr old son. Why? He was in pain, sick, half dead at the time, his wife > was also sick, and pregnant. I think the neighbor men came to take down > the Will and get it recorded, and they wrote down the kids names as fast > as possible, the best they could, but with both parents laying at death's > door, one little boy got forgotten. He still grew up with the other > brothers, and when he died his kids were partially raised by his brother, > but he was never named in the Will. > > 2. Never put faith in the term Sr. or Jr. You could find a document for > Joel Campbell, and signed by Joel Campbell and witnessed by Joel Campbell, > Jr. and 'naturally' jump to the conclusion that they were father and son. > Not so at all, untrue! They were grandfather, and grandson, and the > father of Joel Campbell, Jr was not named Joel at all. > > So why do people use these term Jr. if not to mean their father was named > the same? They are also used as an identifier of AGE. Let's say I have a > community and there are several men, and in the same area named George > Campbell. Some are brothers, some cousins, some unrelated, some Uncles. > Along comes the census taker, and I tell him my name is George Campbell, > Jr. Was my Dad George also? No, he wasn't, but I want the census taker > to record that I am the YOUNGER man of the area named George Campbell, not > to be confused with my Old Man Uncle of the same name, or my OLDER > cousins, also of the same name. The same could be said of Sr., that might > mean that this man was the OLDEST man in his area name George Campbell, > out of a whole crowd similarly named. > > Don't ever believe the terms of Jr or Sr, unless you first determine > through other mans that you really do know who this person is. In fact, > at first you should doubt those terms, and then proceed to rersearch to > learn the true identity of that person. > > I come from a James Thompson , III yet he always said he was James > Thompson, Jr. Why, because his father was James Thompson, so he thought > he was Jr, but in reality he was #3, he just didn't rmember his > grandfather. > > 3. Never believe a death certificate. The DEAD person did know their own > name, and birth date and birth place and Parents names, etc. But the > problem is, the DEAD person was not filling out the DEATH certificate. It > was some daughter in law, or the cousin, or the old folks home, or the son > in law, and those people may, or may not know anything about that person. > I have many a death certificate filled out even by the deceased own > children, in which all the facts were distorted, convoluted and incorrect. > It is sad, shocking, and frustrating to look at an official document, and > know that it is incorrect. > > How do you verify it was wrong? You find the Birth certificate and then > you know the details of the death certificate were wrong. The parents are > giving the birth record of their child, they know when he was born and > where. If it says Iowa, then you know the death certificate which states > Maryland is wrong. I spent 6 months looking for a family in Maryland, and > I kept wondering why that name was so very uncommon in Maryland, it was > because the family was never in Maryland, nor even near to Maryland, but > the son who gave his mother's death info to the county officials thought > she was born in Maryland. To his mind, anything EAST of California, was > called Maryland! > > So I would always believe a Birth certificate before I ever believed any > death certificate. > > And marriage certificates can be wrong also. It is only as good as the > clerks handwriting. You may remember Nancy Campbell on her marriage > certificate? She was not Nancy Campbell, her name was Nancy Coffey. She > had no Campbell blood in her, she was simply getting married to a > Campbell. That mix up took me 3 -4 months to fathom, other researchers > kept trying to explain it to me, and I would go round and round, still > stupified. Finally I got to grasp the truth of the situation, based on > the parents, and their Wills, etc. > > 4. Never believe a History book which gives the Biography of local > persons, and states who their parents are and where they came from. These > books were written by writers who would come around and say they would > interview folks, and for a fee, they would write up your family story in a > Book which would be specific to your county location. > > My relative knew his mother was Lucinda, but she died when he was a baby, > and he was raised by his loving step-mother Nancy. So in the county book > he never mentioned his real Mom, only talked about his father and Nancy. > Now Nancy was born in NC, his real mom was born in IN, in all the many > lifetime of census records for him, he always states his mother's birth > place was IN. This means he was truthfully well aware he was not the son > of Nancy b. NC, but yet the book says that. So you can never believe a > book, even thought the family was interviewed for the book. People lie, > people forget, people change facts, etc. > > In conclusion, don't believe anything until you have studied it this way > and that, and have understood the family, and confered with others, and > feel comfortable with the facts of the case. Be prepared to find out that > there are birth, marriage, and death certificates which are wrong, or > partially wrong. Be prepared to find Wills which won't name your > relative, yet you know they should be named. Be prepared for anything. > Don't get nervous, or worried, this is a fun hobby, we can't make it a > science, it is an art, and it won't all fit into a nice neat box. There > will always be rough jaggedy edges we need to smooth down. > > Best regards, > Lilly Martin > > > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/194 - Release Date: 12/7/2005

One generation A T. Just one. Now if two present day people (white or black) marry and have the dormant genes for the long ago mix... And these genes come forward from both the present people.. A white couple could have a baby that looks Af.Am., and vice versa. It's happened. Also just little hints can come forward generations later. Why is my hair so unruly/fuzzy?, Why does my Af. Am daughter have long silky hair? We will never know for sure. DNA will hint at the cause, but we will never know for certain. If you are thinking of doing the DNA for genealogy, expect some surprises... They will be there. Marge -----Original Message----- From: Atpowelljr@aol.com [mailto:Atpowelljr@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 8:47 PM To: CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE-D. N. A. ????? ROY JOHNSON & Other Cousins, This is in Answer to; D. N. A. Not being able too prove Descendent from a Specific Ancestor. I have gotten INFO from A Member of TWO of MY Caucasian Families Recently, THAT they did a D. N. A. test, Going Back to Parent B, All OK, BUT; At Ancestor B. WOAH! ??? Parent Showed WEST African_____??. NOW HOW; It is a foregone conclusion, Proven Fact that there was Cohabitation between White men & Slave women. THE Potential results,___? Here Could be that there was a Connection between a White Woman & A Slave Male__?? <QUEIN SABE> YEP who knows. WE come up with Two Cases of Caucasian Tracing back to WEST African D. N. A. JUST____? Suppose that there was a Connection of White Female & West African Male, Resulting in the Birth of a MULATTO Male & the Family Decided to KEEP & raise the Baby & He Marries White or a Female Mulatto & that union produces a Male I do not know how many Generations that it would take for an Off spring to come along that would not show any Trace. I know of a woman whose Grand Mother was Full blooded Cherokee, One of the Grt Grand Sons has Features, His Sisters Daughter has more than a little Native American Resemblance. The Daughter Born to Daniel's While he was gone for TWO years, C-O-U-L-D <be> a D. N. A. Match Where My theory COULD hold water also but not BY D. N. A. past Ancestor B. CUZ A T <atpowelljr@aol.com> ______________________________

Thanks A.T., I agree with you on the state/county research. I am the list host for Iron county MO. I see posts saying "John Doe was born in Iron county MO in 1823"... No way, Iron county MO formed in 1857. The place of birth is from family records, and the family lived in MO from 1820 on.. MO did not become a state until after 1820.. These are stumbling blocks that can be overcome. Wills are fairly accurate, especially if there are several witnesses, but I am sure no records are beyond having error(s) of some kind. Even the census has been proved to have many errors. Ellis Campbell b 1804 in VA lived in TN in 1830 (no slaves), AL from abt 1832-38 (no slaves), and in MO from 1838 until his death in 1881. Ellis never owned slaves & shows in family stories to have been against slavery. He has two & possibably 3 sons who were not recognized by family after 1850 & 1860.. All three are on the 1850 census, then after 1860 we lose yet another. Family never knew of Mathew & Ambrose (Andrew?), but they did know of Wesley (Wiley). Family lore says he died in timber, but we are beginning to think he was not, we think the CW divided the family, and Ellis disowned these sons. Ellis had no will. Family recollections are good, but not perfect. We have James W. Campbell b abt 1864 to James Mehlander Campbell. The son James W/W.James/Wm J., comes home from AR with a wife and two girls, on the census for 1900 we find him, wife Mattie & three girls, Cora, Pauline & Barbara. He seemed to fall on the earth after 1900. Why? Because someone in the family said James W.'s daddy was a Hiram b KY... I have my thoughts on why this happened, but they are my thoughts only. It threw a new found cousin off for years, until I sent her a family book that includes the visit abt 1896. Did Mattie not like what she saw when James W took her to meet his family? Is that why a family was made up? We will never know. It could be James W. didn't want anyone to find his family. Don't just rely on any ONE document, look at them all... And for gosh sakes.. If someone (I am guilty of this) says they think they have a connection... Check it out.. Look closely.. Could be... I don't know who it was that contacted me awhile back, said could his Wesley Campbell be our Wesley.. I said, no, Wesley died young in timber.. Well now I find that that may not have been true. I didn't keep the person's name, whish I had. Marge -----Original Message----- From: Atpowelljr@aol.com [mailto:Atpowelljr@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 7:06 PM To: CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE-I BELIVE IN FACTS & TRY TO MAKE SURE<GREAT> NOW; FAMILY records VS Will; there are 9 children in the Family Record Carried through the life time. OUR Admitted stickler for Authenticity, Refuses to accept the Family record Because there is only 6 children listed in the will; That goes SO; I Joseph COX, being of sound mind but weak body, do make my last Will & Testament. To my wife Jane____? I leave my estate as long as she remains UN Married, To Jim I leave the old bay mare & 37 Dollars, to # 2 SO & SO> To Molly I leave the Straw BED & 2 Heifers, TO #-4 THIS & THAT, #-5 What ever, #-6 The rest Signed THIS day_ HIS Sigened: Joseph X COX Mark NOW CUZ Stickler, I ask you Sincerely HOW many of you is there that would Sign a 5 page Will that I wrote with you NOT reading it?? That is just what you have often accepted as Authentic < Grand PA could not read nor write> But Grand Ma that compiled the Family record was a retired School teacher Think abt it. One of my 6th Grt Grand Father's Family record showed 5 children, 3 girls & 2 boys His will provided for only 4 Children. I wondered until I went over the Amherst County Va WEB PAGE Several times, I finally found where Grand PA had deeded 100 acres of land to that Missing Daughter's Husband. Some time a daughter was willed out, <Term for No provision> Pa did not approve of who SALLY Married, OH Wm. BILL who shows up on MA's family list, <thats right Pa was a Quaker> & when a son <BILL> took up arms the Church disowned him & often the Family also. NOW to insist on a Will that Someone wrote for an OLD man that could not Read or write VS a family record that a retired School teacher KEPT. I know & have found inaccurate INFO on line, SOME Records in a County 14 Years before that County was Formed, BUT CUZ alot of what is on line was put there BY someone that was researching before we Started, if the time if the Posting is 2003 or better one can Contact, Most the poster's & Confirm it. ONE of the most worth while AIDS for research in VA. is, <Retracing OUR Family Legacy>. Just Type into your search Engine <Evolution of Virginia Counties> IT is a 12 page print out, the only cost is the 12 sheets of paper, For ANY one that has not got this & researching in Va., YOU will kick your self for not having it sooner. This Information can be had from most states. Amherst County is a MUCH Mentioned County For Va research; LETS trace Amherst County BACK; It was formed in 1761 From Albemarle County that was Formed in 1744 From, Goochland & Louisa Counties, in 1742 Goochland was formed from in 1728 from Henrico County <all records were destroyed by fire June 1828, Other records were lost during the Civil War,1865. Louisa County was formed in 1742 from Hanover County, Henrico 1634 Original Shire, < The State of Va had only 8 Shires to begin with No Counties in the Beginning of Va> Hanover County was Formed in1752 from New Kent County. Records were Destroyed in 1865. New Kent County was formed in 1654 From York County. Records were burned 1865 During Civil War. York 1634 Original Shire. Founded as Charles River County Changed to York in 1642. NOW AGAIN; Va had 140 Counties until 1862 when West Va WAS formed with 40 of the Original VA Counties. NOW AGAIN; For some more GENEALOGY, Stumbling; As the Westward expansion Continued, Virginia Created Kentucky County & Illinois County. Kentucky County was eventually Split into three Counties, Jefferson, Fayette, & Lincoln. Illionis County <the North West Territory > was ceded to the Nation & Became a territory. The Voluntary gift to the nation included all of the Ohio Valley & Parts of WISC. & Michigan . NOW this May not Sound like the Idea that Some people Have of Genealogical Research, BUT Cousins just think of how many BRICK WALLS that we have encountered. SOME one that we could be looking for in Amherst County Va in 2005, That person,s Ancestor very likely Started in Charles River County in 1640, & become Nessary to Follow through; New Kent, Hanover to Louisa to Albemarle to Amherst County Va & the Descendent that is in Amherst County Today is very likely in the same Geographical location that their ANCESTOR settled in in 1640. SO COUSINS this Could help ANY one, in research in Va. AW, go ahead & yell, then Try the <Evolution of Virginia Counties> CUZ, A.T. <atpowelljr@aol.com> ______________________________

lilly, you said ( So I would always believe a Birth certificate before I ever believed any death certificate.)i have a birth certificate that is born example 7/11 and it was suppose to be 9/11..a 7 can me taken for a 9 very easy,but to correct it was quite a lot of other documents of which i could not find..they should have done it as july versus september..so caution to alot of documents.sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lilly Martin" <malik@scs-net.org> To: <CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 4:38 AM Subject: [CAMPBELL] To all persons Questioning Facts > To all others researching, > > I have only been doing research fro 4 yrs, so I have not learned alot, but > a few basic things I learned the old fashioned hard way. > > 1. Never believe that a Will will name all children. A Will will name > only those kids or persons that the writer of the Will would LIKE to give > something to, or to remember in the Will. > > A rich son might not be mentioned, but his dead brother's kids might. > Why? The rich son is already set up for life, why give him more, when he > doesn't need it? I can show you many Wills of men with large families, > and only a few kids are mentioned in the Will, so the names in a Will do > not necessarily equate to the number of children a man/woman has. > > I can show you a death bed Will of a young father, who forgot to name one > 4 yr old son. Why? He was in pain, sick, half dead at the time, his wife > was also sick, and pregnant. I think the neighbor men came to take down > the Will and get it recorded, and they wrote down the kids names as fast > as possible, the best they could, but with both parents laying at death's > door, one little boy got forgotten. He still grew up with the other > brothers, and when he died his kids were partially raised by his brother, > but he was never named in the Will. > > 2. Never put faith in the term Sr. or Jr. You could find a document for > Joel Campbell, and signed by Joel Campbell and witnessed by Joel Campbell, > Jr. and 'naturally' jump to the conclusion that they were father and son. > Not so at all, untrue! They were grandfather, and grandson, and the > father of Joel Campbell, Jr was not named Joel at all. > > So why do people use these term Jr. if not to mean their father was named > the same? They are also used as an identifier of AGE. Let's say I have a > community and there are several men, and in the same area named George > Campbell. Some are brothers, some cousins, some unrelated, some Uncles. > Along comes the census taker, and I tell him my name is George Campbell, > Jr. Was my Dad George also? No, he wasn't, but I want the census taker > to record that I am the YOUNGER man of the area named George Campbell, not > to be confused with my Old Man Uncle of the same name, or my OLDER > cousins, also of the same name. The same could be said of Sr., that might > mean that this man was the OLDEST man in his area name George Campbell, > out of a whole crowd similarly named. > > Don't ever believe the terms of Jr or Sr, unless you first determine > through other mans that you really do know who this person is. In fact, > at first you should doubt those terms, and then proceed to rersearch to > learn the true identity of that person. > > I come from a James Thompson , III yet he always said he was James > Thompson, Jr. Why, because his father was James Thompson, so he thought > he was Jr, but in reality he was #3, he just didn't rmember his > grandfather. > > 3. Never believe a death certificate. The DEAD person did know their own > name, and birth date and birth place and Parents names, etc. But the > problem is, the DEAD person was not filling out the DEATH certificate. It > was some daughter in law, or the cousin, or the old folks home, or the son > in law, and those people may, or may not know anything about that person. > I have many a death certificate filled out even by the deceased own > children, in which all the facts were distorted, convoluted and incorrect. > It is sad, shocking, and frustrating to look at an official document, and > know that it is incorrect. > > How do you verify it was wrong? You find the Birth certificate and then > you know the details of the death certificate were wrong. The parents are > giving the birth record of their child, they know when he was born and > where. If it says Iowa, then you know the death certificate which states > Maryland is wrong. I spent 6 months looking for a family in Maryland, and > I kept wondering why that name was so very uncommon in Maryland, it was > because the family was never in Maryland, nor even near to Maryland, but > the son who gave his mother's death info to the county officials thought > she was born in Maryland. To his mind, anything EAST of California, was > called Maryland! > > So I would always believe a Birth certificate before I ever believed any > death certificate. > > And marriage certificates can be wrong also. It is only as good as the > clerks handwriting. You may remember Nancy Campbell on her marriage > certificate? She was not Nancy Campbell, her name was Nancy Coffey. She > had no Campbell blood in her, she was simply getting married to a > Campbell. That mix up took me 3 -4 months to fathom, other researchers > kept trying to explain it to me, and I would go round and round, still > stupified. Finally I got to grasp the truth of the situation, based on > the parents, and their Wills, etc. > > 4. Never believe a History book which gives the Biography of local > persons, and states who their parents are and where they came from. These > books were written by writers who would come around and say they would > interview folks, and for a fee, they would write up your family story in a > Book which would be specific to your county location. > > My relative knew his mother was Lucinda, but she died when he was a baby, > and he was raised by his loving step-mother Nancy. So in the county book > he never mentioned his real Mom, only talked about his father and Nancy. > Now Nancy was born in NC, his real mom was born in IN, in all the many > lifetime of census records for him, he always states his mother's birth > place was IN. This means he was truthfully well aware he was not the son > of Nancy b. NC, but yet the book says that. So you can never believe a > book, even thought the family was interviewed for the book. People lie, > people forget, people change facts, etc. > > In conclusion, don't believe anything until you have studied it this way > and that, and have understood the family, and confered with others, and > feel comfortable with the facts of the case. Be prepared to find out that > there are birth, marriage, and death certificates which are wrong, or > partially wrong. Be prepared to find Wills which won't name your > relative, yet you know they should be named. Be prepared for anything. > Don't get nervous, or worried, this is a fun hobby, we can't make it a > science, it is an art, and it won't all fit into a nice neat box. There > will always be rough jaggedy edges we need to smooth down. > > Best regards, > Lilly Martin > > > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

I can answer some of the Mary Chiles questions. I know that she was born in 1920, and someone told me she may be deceased now. She was a genealogist--not a "professional". The contact info for her that used to be on her webpage was no longer accurate. The only book she ever published was the 800-page "Chiles-Childs Family History." It's in the Cincinnati library because she was from Ohio at the time. According to her family history charts, which have now been removed from the Web, some Campbells married some Chiles/Childs in the mid-1700's, hence, the link. As for using the public library, actually, I am a professional librarian at a public library, so I'm working on trying to get the book transferred through ILL. When I get the info, I'll pass it on. Unfortunately, I have a feeling it's going to say it's source is simply "oral history passed on from generation to generation," as Mary stated in the excerpt I posted here earlier. I've been talking to another Campbell researcher who lives near me, and she has some interesting info about a Hugh Campbell. She believes this Hugh Campbell may be connected to Charles Campbell. I'll try to post her info this weekend. It has something to do with a Mary or Margaret Trotter, a name which I thought I've heard mentioned here before. As with everything I'm finding, no one appears to have any credible sources for anything they're telling me. I haven't found any Charles Campbell who purchased any land anywhere in Virginia between 1712 and 1724.

ROY JOHNSON & Other Cousins, This is in Answer to; D. N. A. Not being able too prove Descendent from a Specific Ancestor. I have gotten INFO from A Member of TWO of MY Caucasian Families Recently, THAT they did a D. N. A. test, Going Back to Parent B, All OK, BUT; At Ancestor B. WOAH! ??? Parent Showed WEST African_____??. NOW HOW; It is a foregone conclusion, Proven Fact that there was Cohabitation between White men & Slave women. THE Potential results,___? Here Could be that there was a Connection between a White Woman & A Slave Male__?? <QUEIN SABE> YEP who knows. WE come up with Two Cases of Caucasian Tracing back to WEST African D. N. A. JUST____? Suppose that there was a Connection of White Female & West African Male, Resulting in the Birth of a MULATTO Male & the Family Decided to KEEP & raise the Baby & He Marries White or a Female Mulatto & that union produces a Male I do not know how many Generations that it would take for an Off spring to come along that would not show any Trace. I know of a woman whose Grand Mother was Full blooded Cherokee, One of the Grt Grand Sons has Features, His Sisters Daughter has more than a little Native American Resemblance. The Daughter Born to Daniel's While he was gone for TWO years, C-O-U-L-D <be> a D. N. A. Match Where My theory COULD hold water also but not BY D. N. A. past Ancestor B. CUZ A T <atpowelljr@aol.com>

NOW; FAMILY records VS Will; there are 9 children in the Family Record Carried through the life time. OUR Admitted stickler for Authenticity, Refuses to accept the Family record Because there is only 6 children listed in the will; That goes SO; I Joseph COX, being of sound mind but weak body, do make my last Will & Testament. To my wife Jane____? I leave my estate as long as she remains UN Married, To Jim I leave the old bay mare & 37 Dollars, to # 2 SO & SO> To Molly I leave the Straw BED & 2 Heifers, TO #-4 THIS & THAT, #-5 What ever, #-6 The rest Signed THIS day_ HIS Sigened: Joseph X COX Mark NOW CUZ Stickler, I ask you Sincerely HOW many of you is there that would Sign a 5 page Will that I wrote with you NOT reading it?? That is just what you have often accepted as Authentic < Grand PA could not read nor write> But Grand Ma that compiled the Family record was a retired School teacher Think abt it. One of my 6th Grt Grand Father's Family record showed 5 children, 3 girls & 2 boys His will provided for only 4 Children. I wondered until I went over the Amherst County Va WEB PAGE Several times, I finally found where Grand PA had deeded 100 acres of land to that Missing Daughter's Husband. Some time a daughter was willed out, <Term for No provision> Pa did not approve of who SALLY Married, OH Wm. BILL who shows up on MA's family list, <thats right Pa was a Quaker> & when a son <BILL> took up arms the Church disowned him & often the Family also. NOW to insist on a Will that Someone wrote for an OLD man that could not Read or write VS a family record that a retired School teacher KEPT. I know & have found inaccurate INFO on line, SOME Records in a County 14 Years before that County was Formed, BUT CUZ alot of what is on line was put there BY someone that was researching before we Started, if the time if the Posting is 2003 or better one can Contact, Most the poster's & Confirm it. ONE of the most worth while AIDS for research in VA. is, <Retracing OUR Family Legacy>. Just Type into your search Engine <Evolution of Virginia Counties> IT is a 12 page print out, the only cost is the 12 sheets of paper, For ANY one that has not got this & researching in Va., YOU will kick your self for not having it sooner. This Information can be had from most states. Amherst County is a MUCH Mentioned County For Va research; LETS trace Amherst County BACK; It was formed in 1761 From Albemarle County that was Formed in 1744 From, Goochland & Louisa Counties, in 1742 Goochland was formed from in 1728 from Henrico County <all records were destroyed by fire June 1828, Other records were lost during the Civil War,1865. Louisa County was formed in 1742 from Hanover County, Henrico 1634 Original Shire, < The State of Va had only 8 Shires to begin with No Counties in the Beginning of Va> Hanover County was Formed in1752 from New Kent County. Records were Destroyed in 1865. New Kent County was formed in 1654 From York County. Records were burned 1865 During Civil War. York 1634 Original Shire. Founded as Charles River County Changed to York in 1642. NOW AGAIN; Va had 140 Counties until 1862 when West Va WAS formed with 40 of the Original VA Counties. NOW AGAIN; For some more GENEALOGY, Stumbling; As the Westward expansion Continued, Virginia Created Kentucky County & Illinois County. Kentucky County was eventually Split into three Counties, Jefferson, Fayette, & Lincoln. Illionis County <the North West Territory > was ceded to the Nation & Became a territory. The Voluntary gift to the nation included all of the Ohio Valley & Parts of WISC. & Michigan . NOW this May not Sound like the Idea that Some people Have of Genealogical Research, BUT Cousins just think of how many BRICK WALLS that we have encountered. SOME one that we could be looking for in Amherst County Va in 2005, That person,s Ancestor very likely Started in Charles River County in 1640, & become Nessary to Follow through; New Kent, Hanover to Louisa to Albemarle to Amherst County Va & the Descendent that is in Amherst County Today is very likely in the same Geographical location that their ANCESTOR settled in in 1640. SO COUSINS this Could help ANY one, in research in Va. AW, go ahead & yell, then Try the <Evolution of Virginia Counties> CUZ, A.T. <atpowelljr@aol.com>

Does this look like a good date for the marriage? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Spouse 1 Spouse 2 Marriage Date Marriage Location Campbell, James - Mccoy, Eliz. 25 Apr 1794 Kentucky - Mercer County Source Information: Dodd, Jordan. Kentucky Marriages to 1850. [database online] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 1997. Electronic transcription of marriage records held by the individual counties in Kentucky. Hope this helps a little. I went to your website online..didn't see anything else I could help with Marge Campbell -----Original Message----- From: sjc [mailto:sjcamp@swbell.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 8:51 AM To: CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Tenn & Kty Campbells 1790-18xx Best of the season to all, Well... Once again I want to post and ask if anyone has any thoughts on the CAMPBELLs and possibly McCOYS of Kentucky circa 1790 and Tennessee 1804-18xx. More specifically, Mercer Cty, KTY. Smith and Wilson Counties, TN. These lines are NOT connected to the David or Bowen Campbells of that area, who were well documented and involved in government. No, my Campbells were simple farmers, possibly shoemakers at one time. James is thought to be the immigrant from Scotland. And he is the one I know so little about. His sons Hugh, James, William, Thomas?, John?, daughters Elizabeth, Mary are somewhat known. Hugh being my line and I have quite abit on that. Thanks. Sandy J Campbell sjcamp@swbell.net

Are these Ky. Campbells connected to the James' or Couchs'? Did they move into south eastern Kentucky? ----- Original Message ----- From: "sjc" <sjcamp@swbell.net> To: <CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 10:51 AM Subject: [CAMPBELL] Tenn & Kty Campbells 1790-18xx > Best of the season to all, > > Well... Once again I want to post and ask if anyone has any thoughts on > the CAMPBELLs and possibly McCOYS of Kentucky circa 1790 and Tennessee > 1804-18xx. More specifically, Mercer Cty, KTY. Smith and Wilson > Counties, TN. > > These lines are NOT connected to the David or Bowen Campbells of that > area, who were well documented and involved in government. No, my > Campbells were simple farmers, possibly shoemakers at one time. James > is thought to be the immigrant from Scotland. And he is the one I know > so little about. His sons Hugh, James, William, Thomas?, John?, > daughters Elizabeth, Mary are somewhat known. Hugh being my line and I > have quite abit on that. > > Thanks. > > Sandy J Campbell > sjcamp@swbell.net > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Sandy, I don't know if this will help any. But go to the page below: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/sck.html Now click on: Search the South-Central-Kentucky archives This will carry you to the search section of the Mailing list for SCK in the search box put Campbell and make sure 2005 is marked and you will pull up over 1300 pages that have listings on Jesse, James, and John Campbell plus some other Campbells One of them was a preacher in I think it was Edmonson Co KY. some were in Barren Co KY and Warren Co KY. maybe some of these are your kin. I believe someone said they were from Tennessee. Good luck with the search. Josephine Hall The Hall's of North Eastern Texas http://www.geocities.com/ajh1943/index.html Josephine Ferrell Hall's Family Search http://www.genealogy.com/users/h/a/l/Josephine-Hall/ ~~Searching our "Roots" + "The Trunk, Limbs, Branches & Acorns". ~~ It depends on the Tap Root how well the tree will produce even the smallest acorn. From: "sjc" <sjcamp@swbell.net> To: <CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 10:51 AM Subject: [CAMPBELL] Tenn & Kty Campbells 1790-18xx Best of the season to all, Well... Once again I want to post and ask if anyone has any thoughts on the CAMPBELLs and possibly McCOYS of Kentucky circa 1790 and Tennessee 1804-18xx. More specifically, Mercer Cty, KTY. Smith and Wilson Counties, TN. These lines are NOT connected to the David or Bowen Campbells of that area, who were well documented and involved in government. No, my Campbells were simple farmers, possibly shoemakers at one time. James is thought to be the immigrant from Scotland. And he is the one I know so little about. His sons Hugh, James, William, Thomas?, John?, daughters Elizabeth, Mary are somewhat known. Hugh being my line and I have quite abit on that. Thanks. Sandy J Campbell sjcamp@swbell.net

Best of the season to all, Well... Once again I want to post and ask if anyone has any thoughts on the CAMPBELLs and possibly McCOYS of Kentucky circa 1790 and Tennessee 1804-18xx. More specifically, Mercer Cty, KTY. Smith and Wilson Counties, TN. These lines are NOT connected to the David or Bowen Campbells of that area, who were well documented and involved in government. No, my Campbells were simple farmers, possibly shoemakers at one time. James is thought to be the immigrant from Scotland. And he is the one I know so little about. His sons Hugh, James, William, Thomas?, John?, daughters Elizabeth, Mary are somewhat known. Hugh being my line and I have quite abit on that. Thanks. Sandy J Campbell sjcamp@swbell.net

Subject: Campbell Marriages from Early TN Newspapers These are from a book by the Rev Silas Emmett Lucas, Jr, pub with Southern Historical Press, 1978. I HAVE NO OTHER INFORMATION OTHER THAN WHAT IS PRINTED HERE. The first five entries have a couple letters on the left edge cut off the Campbell name & whichever sentence comes under the CA in Campbell. (my error, MC)... Also, the dates given at end of the newspaper name(s) is the date the item appeared in the paper, not the marriage date (or that is what it looks like to me). Page 74: CAMPBELL, Mr Joel married in Logan co., Y. to Miss Lydia HORN. National Banner and Nashville Daily Advertiser, Tues, 13 Nov 1832. CAMPBELL, Mr. John married in Knox county to Miss Elizabeth ARMSTRONG, daughter of Mr. Moses Armstrong. National Banner, Sat 18 Jul 1829. CAMPBELL, John W. Esq. Married in this towen on Wed evening last to Miss Jane PORTER, daughter of Alexander Porter, Esq. National Banner & Nashville Whig, Sat 16 June 1827. CAMPBELL, Mr Johnes married in Logan county, KY to miss Mary Ann PERT, daughter of Major James Pert. National Banner & Nashville Whig, Mon 29 Dec 1834). CAMPBELL, Miss Lisenka M. married to J. Percy BROWN. CAMPBELL, Miss Margaaret married to Samuel W. KILPATRICK. CAMPBELL, Miss Margaret P. married to John MARSHALL, Esq. CAMPBELL, Miss Margaret W. married to Samuel W. KILPATRICK. CAMPBELL, Miss Martha C. married to Philo BEEMAN, Esq. CAMPBELL, Miss Margha Rebecca married to Dr. James W. BAXTON. CAMPBELL, Miss Mary A. married to Mr. John M PILKINTON. CAMPBELL, Miss Mary L. S. maried to Mr. Thomas M. PATTERSON. CAMPBELL, Mr. Moses married in Logan co, KY to Miss Surindia PARRISH. National Banner, 10 March 1826. CAMPBELL, Miss Nancy married to Maj. John CHASE. CAMPBELL, Miss Nancy B. married to William D. V. DOWNING, Esq. CAMPBELL, Mrs. Poly L. married to Joseph FICKLIN, Esq. CAMPBELL, Dr. R. M. of Dickson county married on 2nd inst. To Miss Louisiana PARK, of Davidson county. Nashville Republican & State Gazette, Tues. 14 Oct 1834 CAMPBELL, Miss Rebecca married to Mr. Thos D. HENLEY. CAMPBELL, Mr. Robt. Of this vicinity, married to Miss Frances EWELL, in Smythe county VA. Nashville Republican, Tues., 13 Jan 1835. (repeat of preceeding) National Banner & Nashville Whig, Wed, 21 Jan 1835. CAMPBELL, Miss Sarah married in Grainger county to Mr. Michael H. STONE. National Banner & Nashville Whig, Sat 7 Apr 1826. CAMPBELL, Mr. Semple of Uniontown, married in Pittsburgh, PA to Miss Sarah A Lowrie. National Banner & Nashville Daily Advertiser, Mon 12 May 1834. CAMPBELL, Miss Sophia maried to Mr. Gedeon RIGGS. CAMPBELL, Mr. Thomas J. Jr. of Georgia married in Athens, TN to Miss Frances E BRIDGES of Athens. Nashville Whig, Thurs 25 June 1846. CAMPBELL, Mr Urban married in Logan co, KY to Miss Sarah C. RUSH, daughter of the Rev Grigsby RUSH. National Banner & Nashville Daily Advertiser, Sat 13 Oct 1832. Page 75: CAMPBELL, W. R., Esq. Married in Vicksburg, MS to Miss Margaret P. H. TIDEMAN. National Banner & Nashville Daily Advertiser. 26 Mar 1833. CAMPBELL, Mr Washington married in Williamson county to Miss Mahala CARTWRIGHT. The Western Weekly Review, Franklin TN, Fri 2 Dec 1831. (repeat of preceeding) National Banner & Nashville Whig, Wed, 7 Dec 18313. CAMPBELL, Maj William maried in this town on Sat last by the Rev Mr. Lindsey to Miss Frances GILL> National Banner & Nashville Whig, Sat 14 Feb 1829. CAMPBELL, William G. M., Esq. Of Davidson county married in Montgomery county on the 26th inst. By the Rev. Mr. Williams to Miss Minerva Ann NORFLEET of Montgomery county. Nashville Whig, Sat 29 Apr 1843. CAMPBELL Mr. Wm M. married at Florence, AL to Miss Mary Ann GLENN. National Banner, 3 Mar 1826. CAMPBELL, Mr. Wm P. married in this county on Thursday evening last ot Miss Lucy WIGGINGTON. cll-request@listserv.acor.org, Sat 7 Apr 1827. Enough for tonite.. Will post the death notices later.. Marge Campbell Galt CA USA

Lilly Martin Thanks for the info you sent on William Campbell& Sarah Goode a few weeks ago.You had a few questions about their son George G. Campbell wife's family.Her name was Frances F. Wright.I wanted to recheck my research before I answered you back. Frances F. Wright daughter of Moses Wright JR. & Mary"Polly Cash m. 1-20-1807 Her Mother Mary "Polly" Cash daughter of ( Thomas Cash & Jemima Peachy) You said you had Moses Wright married to a Nancy. I found a Moses Wright m. Nancy Dickerson he is son of (Jesse Wright &Dorthy Payton) from same family, but they lived in kentucky. Morris Wright ( Moses Jrs. brother) married Nancy Cash also daughter of ( Thomas Cash& Jemima Peachy) Moses & Morris lived in Rockbridge Co. Virginia and my great great grandparents George & Frances were married Sept.8.1829 in Rockbridge CO. Source marriage bonds, Thelma Prince website "Our Southern Ancestors". Ancestry.com Cecil Campbell

These are froma book by the Rev Silas Emmett Lucas, Jr, pub with Southern Historical Press, 1978. The first five entries have a couple letters on the left edge cut off the Campbell name & whichever sentence comes under the CA in Campbell. (my error, MC)... Also, the dates given at end of the newspaper name(s) is the date the item appeared in the paper, not the marriage date (or that is what it looks like to me). Page 72: NOTE: this first entry is for CAMPBE..no LL on end..it's not cut off..just not there. MC Also..all notations with MC are by Marge Campbell. CAMPBE, Capt. James married in Grainger Co to Miss Margery F BLAIR. National Banner & Nashville Whig, Thurs, 17 June 1830. CAMPBELL, Rev. Alexander married at Wellsburg, Brooke co VA to Miss - -alina H BAKEWELL (- - are the two cut off letters MC). National Banner & Nashville Whig, Sat 13 Sep 1828. CAMPBELL, Col. Andrew married at Monroe county to Miss Mary TEDFORD. National Banner & Nashville Whig, Sat 9 Feb 1828. CAMPBELL, Mr. Andrew of Williamson county married in Winchester, Frankklin Co., on the 14th inst., by the Rev. COPP to Miss Eliza CLARKE. The Western Weekly Review, Franklin, TN Fri 29 Mar 1833. CAMPBELL, Andrew M. Esq. Married in Henry County to Miss Sarah L. HAMPTON. National Banner, 24 March 1826. Page 73 Now, here is where I get CONFUSED! Trust me, it does not take much these days... I think, but am not certain..that the newspaper and date are listed in the last entry for each of the following groups..but the book didn't say, or at least I couldn't find it mentioned. One would have to try to find a copy of the book to be sure. MC CAMPBELL, Miss Ann married to Mr. Wm. E. OWEN. CAMPBELL, Miss Ann married to Mr Cato MILLER. CAMPBELL, Mis Caroline R. P. married to Mr. Richard PATTERSON. CAMPBELL, Mr Charles married in Jefferson county to Miss Mary STONE, both of Grainger. National Banner & Nashville Whig, Mon., 13 Sep 1830. CAMPBELL, Miss Cynthia married in Fayetteville to Mr. Alexander R. KERR. CAMPBELL, Miss Cynthia Ann married to Mr. George W. McGehee. CAMPBELL, Mr. Daniel of Henry county married on Wed 13th inst. By the Rev James W REA to Miss Elizabeth CUMMINS, daughter of Mr. Samuel Cummins, of Williamson county. The Western Weekly Review, Fri 22 Feb 1833. (repeat of preceeding)National Banner & Nashville Daily Advertiser, Mon 25 Feb 1833. CAMPBELL, Mr. Donald of Mooresville, AL married to Miss Elizabeth M'KINLEY of Florence. Nashville Republican & State Gazette, Sat 21 Sep 1833. CAMPBELL, Mr. Duncan married in Williamson county to Miss Nancy C. ANDERSON. National Banner & Nashville Whig, Sat 4 Aug 1827. CAMPBELL, Miss Eliza A. married to Mr Benjamin H. LIGON. CAMPBELL, Miss Elizabeth M. married to Mr James A. WOODS. CAMPBELL, Miss Emeline M. B. married to Mr Nicholas H. BOYD. CAMPBELL, Miss Emily, married in Maury County to Mr. Wm. W. LANE. CAMPBELL, Mr. Hardin married in this county to Miss Grace M'CORMACK. National Banner & Nashville Whig, Sat 12 Aug 1826. CAMPBELL, Miss Harriett Ann married to Mr Wm. F. BIRCH. CAMPBELL, Miss Hariet marrid to Mr William RUSH. CAMPBELL, Col. J. P. of Columbia married on the 16th Inst. At Planta Place, the residence of Mrs Ann MINNICK nar Nashville, by Judge GREEN, to Rebecca Warson SIMS, daughter of Walter SIMS, Esq. Of Nashville. Nashville Whig, Sat 17 Dec 1846. Repeat of preceeding in The Christian Record, Sat 26 Dec 1846. CAMPBELL, Mr. James married at Chillicothe, O. to Miss Mary S. BRADFORD. National Banner, 27 Jan 1826. CAMPBELL, James Mason Esq. Of Baltimore married in Washington City to Miss Ann Arnold TANEY, daughter of the Hon. R. B. Taney, Sec of the Treasury. National Banner & Nashville Daily Advertiser, Thurs, 19 June 1834. CAMPBELL, James W. Esq. married in Knoxville to Miss Susan C. MORGAN. National Banner, Sat, 6 June 1829. CAMPBELL, Miss Jane married to Dr. Albert G EWING CAMPBELL, Miss Jane L. married in Williamson county to Mr. Jacob T. MORRIS. Page 74: CAMPBELL, Mr Joel married in Logan co., Y. to Miss Lydia HORN. National Banner and Nashville Daily Advertiser, Tues, 13 Nov 1832. Enough for tonite.. Will post the other two pages (including last of page 74) tomorrow.. Then I will post five pages of Early TN Deaths. Marge Campbell Galt CA USA

Found this online, could it be a connection? CHILDRESS, GEORGE CAMPBELL (1804-1841). George Campbell Childress, lawyer, statesman, and author of the Texas Declaration of Independence,qv son of John Campbell and Elizabeth (Robertson) Childress, was born on January 8, 1804, at Nashville, Tennessee. In 1826 he graduated from Davidson Academy (later the University of Nashville). He was admitted to the Tennessee bar in 1828 and married Margaret Vance on June 12 of that year. Their son was born in March 1835, and Margaret Childress died a few months later. Childress practiced law and for a brief period (September 1834-November 1835) edited the Nashville Banner and Nashville Advertiser. In December 1834 he made his first trip to Texas, where his uncle, Sterling C. Robertson,qv was organizing Robertson's colony.qqv After spending some time raising money and volunteers in Tennessee for the Texas army, Childress left permanently for Texas. He arrived at the Red River on December 13, 1835, and reached Robertson's colonyqv on January 9, 1836. The following February he and his uncle were elected to represent Milam Municipality at the Convention of 1836.qv Childress called the convention to order and subsequently introduced a resolution authorizing a committee of five members to draft a declaration of independence. Upon adoption of the resolution, he was named chairman of the committee and is almost universally acknowledged as the primary author of the document. On March 19 President David G. Burnetqv sent Robert Hamiltonqv and Childress, whose family was on friendly terms with President Andrew Jackson, to Washington as diplomatic agents for the Republic of Texas.qv They were instructed to negotiate for recognition of the republic. In late May 1836 their mission was terminated when they were replaced by James Collinsworth and Peter W. Grayson.qqv On December 12, 1836, Childress married Rebecca Stuart Read Jennings; they had two daughters. Childress returned to Texas three times—in 1837, 1839, and 1841—to open law offices, first in Houston, then Galveston. Each time he was unsuccessful in establishing a practice that would support his family. On October 6, 1841, while living in Galveston, he slashed his abdomen with a Bowie knife and died soon thereafter. On August 21, 1876, Childress County was formed and named in his honor. BIBLIOGRAPHY: Daughters of the Republic of Texas, Founders and Patriots of the Republic of Texas (Austin, 1963-). Cornelia Hood, The Life and Career of George Campbell Childress (M.A. thesis, University of Texas, 1938). Louis Wiltz Kemp, The Signers of the Texas Declaration of Independence (Salado, Texas: Anson Jones, 1944; rpt. 1959). Texas House of Representatives, Biographical Directory of the Texan Conventions and Congresses, 1832-1845 (Austin: Book Exchange, 1941). Joe E. Ericson http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/CC/fch28.html Marge Campbell

Steven; You may be onto something with these Chiles/Childs/or Childress? as possible relatives of George Campbell. I went to my original Alexander Brown's papers on "Early Settlers of Old Amherst County" that I obtained from the Swem Library of William and Mary, Williamsburg and find that what is Nelson county today was saturated with Chiles/Childs/Childress?. Alexander Brown, Esq., wrote the name as indicated herein so members of the Chiles family used Chiles/Childs/Childress? interchangeable, Let me quote a few entries: Henry Chiles or Childs and his brother Joseph in 1747 owned land on Dutch Creek. 1747 was very very early. DC is in Nelson County today. This area was still Goochland County in 1744. There were 13 in all living in Old Amherst or Nelson County prior to 1761. However, none was named Charles. I'm going back to Swem Library on Friday. BH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lilly Martin" <malik@scs-net.org> To: <CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:28 AM Subject: Re: [CAMPBELL] George Campbell (d. 1791) of Virginia > Hello Steven, > So glad to know that you have located that book. Here are several > suggestions: > 1. Go to your local Public Libraray and ask then to get the book sent to > them thru Inter-Library loan program, and then read it when it arrives. > 2. If the Inter libray loan program does not work out, then subscribe to a > mailing list which includes Cincinati OH, it should be Hamilton Co OH, as > I recall. Ask for a volunteer living there to go check the book and > report back to you. > > If this is a Family Lore book, based on handed down hearsy, with out proof > or sources, then we are back to square 1. > > But many times these Family Lore books have at least one grain of truth. > > I think it is IMPORTANT to examine WHO is this author, Mary Childs?, and > know her ancestry, and how does she personally tie back to our George and > Caty Campbell family in Amherst Co VA. > > Where is the tie, that would have delivered this story to Mary? Did a > Childs/Chiles and Campbell marriage occur in Virginia? What is the birth > date and parentage of Mary? What was her maiden name? > > And WHY is this book in Cincinati, OHIO? Did a Campbell descendant get > out there? Or did Mary just happen to live there, and left the book to > the library? > > Since I want to help, I am going to subscribe right now to a mailing list > for Chiles or Childs and ask for help, to know about this woman who wrote > the book, maybe someone will recognise her and give me some info. Then I > will report back to the list here. I will also see if I can find a Childs > or Chiles genealogy group on google, they might have a website of > something. > > Best regards, > Lilly Martin > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <STEVEN.CAMPBELL@sbcglobal.net> > To: <CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 10:58 AM > Subject: [CAMPBELL] George Campbell (d. 1791) of Virginia > > >>A while back I posted a story about George Campbell from a >> "Chiles-Childs Family History" book. It said his father was a >> Charles Campbell who was born in Ireland. I wanted to find the >> book to see if the author provided any sources for the story. I >> managed to find where the only copy of the book is located: The >> Cincinnati Public Library. I haven't contacted them yet, but >> plan to this week, unless someone lives in Cincinnati and is >> willing to visit the library to check for the information. I >> have a feeling the book will say that the story of Charles >> Campbell was an "oral history passed on from generation to >> generation". I still haven't found any proof that the Charles >> Campbell--allegedly born in Ireland in 1694, purchased land in >> Virginia between 1712-1724, and died in Ireland in 1749--ever >> existed. >> >> >> ============================== >> Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >> Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >> >> > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

I have had this happen to my emails now and then...actually the reason seems to be that the receiver's email box is full and their server does not know how else to let you know. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynden Harris" <bharris@ntelos.net> To: <CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 5:36 AM Subject: Re: [CAMPBELL] Campbell-Wright-Melander > Marge; > > I have to wonder why but in trying to send you a message direct, it comes > back from comcast that my e-mail address has been blacklisted? Is that > correct? BH > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Lilly Martin" <malik@scs-net.org> > To: <CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 5:25 AM > Subject: Re: [CAMPBELL] Campbell-Wright-Melander > > >> Hello Marge, >> Thanks for posting this. I hope someone has more comments about this >> family here, my files are not complete at all, but I have noted that >> Carolyn White cjwhite46@aol.com is involved in this family line. >> >> Moses Wright b. 1744 Albemarle Co VA, d. 1830 Amherst Co VA, married >> Elizabeth Ann Whitehead , m. 1775 Amherst Co VA. Moses was a Rev War >> Vet. >> Children: >> 1. Jesse b. 1790, m. Jane Profitt, m. Elizabeth Campbell, d/o Capt. >> George Campbell, s/o George Campbell (m. Elizabeth), s/o George and Caty >> Campbell. >> Jesse and Elizabeth are my ancestors, their daughter Eady Burcher Wright >> married in 1844 to my ancestor George T. Campbell b. 1824 d. 1856. >> 2. Morris Wright, m. Nancy Cash >> 3. Benjamin Wright, m. Nancy Campbell, d/o John (m. Frances), s/o George >> and Caty Campbell. He married secondly to Dicey Campbell b. 1800, m. >> 3-21-1821, she had 14 kids! (is that correct?) >> 4. Rhoda Ann Wright, m. Stephen Cottrell >> 5. John William Wright, m. Effey Cash, d/o William Cash and Jane >> Patterson >> 6. Mary Nancy Wright, m. James Cash >> 7. Matilda Wright >> 8. Bethena Wright, m. Rueben Cash >> 9. Elizabeth Wright, m. Stephen P. Cash >> 10. Moses Wright >> 11. Cary Wright, m. Elizabeth Gill >> 12. Mary Wright, m. Peachy Cash >> Best regards, >> Lilly Martin >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Margie Campbell" <margecam@comcast.net> >> To: <CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 9:12 PM >> Subject: [CAMPBELL] Campbell-Wright-Melander >> >> >>> Melander was a son of Benjamin and Dicey and shows in these census lists >>> (with various spelling): >>> >>> 1860 census Amherst Co., VA >>> Family 763 >>> >>> Dicy Wright 60 400/25 VA cannot read or write >>> Nancy A. 34 >>> Sofa T? 25 >>> Sally 16 >>> Martha 20 >>> Mary 21 >>> Marble 27 >>> Millaner 26 >>> Burch W. 23 >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ----- >>> 1870 census Temperance, Amherst Co., VA >>> Family 609 >>> >>> Wright, Nancy 44 b VA >>> >>> Family 610 >>> >>> Wright Mulliner 37 farm hand VA cannot read or write >>> Polly 33 >>> Malvina 4 >>> Benjamin 2 >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> -------- >>> 1880 census Dist 22, Temperance Twp., Amherst Co., VA >>> Family 344 (many Wrights and Campbells on page) >>> >>> Wright, Melander 47 farmer cannot read or write VA VA VA >>> Polly 40 cannot read or write VA VA VA >>> Rosa 12 VA >>> Benjamin 9 VA >>> Burwell 5 VA >>> Martha 7 VA >>> Moses 4 VA >>> >>> I have his wife identified as Mary F. Campbell. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: CAMPBELL-D-request@rootsweb.com >>> [mailto:CAMPBELL-D-request@rootsweb.com] >>> Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 7:20 AM >>> To: CAMPBELL-D@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: CAMPBELL-D Digest V05 #564 >>> >>> >>> >>> ============================== >>> View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >>> marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ============================== >> Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >> Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >> >> > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >

Hello Steven, So glad to know that you have located that book. Here are several suggestions: 1. Go to your local Public Libraray and ask then to get the book sent to them thru Inter-Library loan program, and then read it when it arrives. 2. If the Inter libray loan program does not work out, then subscribe to a mailing list which includes Cincinati OH, it should be Hamilton Co OH, as I recall. Ask for a volunteer living there to go check the book and report back to you. If this is a Family Lore book, based on handed down hearsy, with out proof or sources, then we are back to square 1. But many times these Family Lore books have at least one grain of truth. I think it is IMPORTANT to examine WHO is this author, Mary Childs?, and know her ancestry, and how does she personally tie back to our George and Caty Campbell family in Amherst Co VA. Where is the tie, that would have delivered this story to Mary? Did a Childs/Chiles and Campbell marriage occur in Virginia? What is the birth date and parentage of Mary? What was her maiden name? And WHY is this book in Cincinati, OHIO? Did a Campbell descendant get out there? Or did Mary just happen to live there, and left the book to the library? Since I want to help, I am going to subscribe right now to a mailing list for Chiles or Childs and ask for help, to know about this woman who wrote the book, maybe someone will recognise her and give me some info. Then I will report back to the list here. I will also see if I can find a Childs or Chiles genealogy group on google, they might have a website of something. Best regards, Lilly Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: <STEVEN.CAMPBELL@sbcglobal.net> To: <CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 10:58 AM Subject: [CAMPBELL] George Campbell (d. 1791) of Virginia >A while back I posted a story about George Campbell from a > "Chiles-Childs Family History" book. It said his father was a > Charles Campbell who was born in Ireland. I wanted to find the > book to see if the author provided any sources for the story. I > managed to find where the only copy of the book is located: The > Cincinnati Public Library. I haven't contacted them yet, but > plan to this week, unless someone lives in Cincinnati and is > willing to visit the library to check for the information. I > have a feeling the book will say that the story of Charles > Campbell was an "oral history passed on from generation to > generation". I still haven't found any proof that the Charles > Campbell--allegedly born in Ireland in 1694, purchased land in > Virginia between 1712-1724, and died in Ireland in 1749--ever > existed. > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

>>Tuesday, 24 Jan 1860<< Stockton Daily Record, Stockton, San Joaquin County, CA MARRIED -- at the residence of Mr. LITTLE on the Mokelumne Hill road, on the 23d inst., by Justice CURTIS; Mr. James CAMPBELL of San Francisco to Miss Elizabeth A. FAUNCE of Chili Gulch. This is from the Norcal-L list. Marge Campbell