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Peggy you need to find 1880 census at Family search they had more children My William Campbell b. abt. 1811 M D was at Hampshire, Kane Co. Ill.1850 d. 1852 wife Elizabeth Brown b. 1810 Mason Co. Ky. 1880 census Greenfield, Elk Co. Ks. her parents Pa. 1 Francis 2 John B 3 Charity 4 William Samuel 4 Silas 5 Nathan 6 Isaac Ann in Ks ----- Original Message ----- From: <Pjpeters2@aol.com> To: <CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 10:09 AM Subject: Re: [CAMPBELL] John Campbell 1817 VA > Hey Cuz AT & Leona, > > Thank you for that Cambell naming practice. It certainly enlightened me > and > I have now looked over their childrens names again & had a surprise! > > Looking over my John Campbell & Urith Lane's family I will maybe look > for > a William or another John as his father. > > William John > Mary Ellen > Sidney Loretta > Samuel B. > Helen > Josephus > Isabell > > I have an idea maybe the B. in Samuel's name is for Benjamin which was > Urith's fathers name. > > And for the girls name's, their 1st girl (my grandmother) was named Mary, > and it turns out that Urith's mothers name was Mary. > > So you have been very helpful and I thank you so much. > > Peggy > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Hello all, My wife descends from Cornelius and Emily. Does anyone know anything about Cornelius' mother, Rosey Sale? I have nothing. Thanks, Rand Costich Rockville, MD

I went to www.oldbailey.org. It was some guy bashing a police department. What is the full url? Sybil Chapman <sybilchapman@cebridge.net> wrote: Have you checked oldbailey.org? That's where I found one of my Davis ancestors [Uriah Davis] whose descendant married Hannah Campbell? They are my gg grandparents. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 10:46 PM Subject: Re: [CAMPBELL] RE: EARLY CAMPBELL EMIGRANTS TO VIRGINIA > HOWDY CUZ, > THE Cousin That is in a position to be Santa's Helper With the Hershey > Candy Factory in his Neighborhood. > Do you have any thing on this Charles Campbell after landing in MD?? I am > still Banking on Our Campbell Pioneer being the One That Stold the Horse & > was > shipped to VA, I would like to get into the Richmond, Va Paper Archives > For > the Sunday Edition for 1938. CUZ A T > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 ....you know you are addicted when you have traced your ancestral lines all the way back to Adam and Eve, have it fully documented, and still don't want to quit... http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/holeton Pam Holeton Piqua,Ohio Miami County --------------------------------- Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping

Hey Cuz AT & Leona, Thank you for that Cambell naming practice. It certainly enlightened me and I have now looked over their childrens names again & had a surprise! Looking over my John Campbell & Urith Lane's family I will maybe look for a William or another John as his father. William John Mary Ellen Sidney Loretta Samuel B. Helen Josephus Isabell I have an idea maybe the B. in Samuel's name is for Benjamin which was Urith's fathers name. And for the girls name's, their 1st girl (my grandmother) was named Mary, and it turns out that Urith's mothers name was Mary. So you have been very helpful and I thank you so much. Peggy

Atten; cjjefferies, Howdy CUZ, OH I know all Campbell's are some kind of, or # Cousin. AS the Campbell Child Naming Practice, Was the First Male was after the Father's Father, & the next Male after the Mother & the Third Son After the Father. This is How it went in My Campbell Family, #- 1 George, = 1 His Son George = 2 - in all 5 sons with a Son Named George = 7 George's, # 2 George With 8 Sons with a Son Named George = 15 George Campbell, Now their way of I.D, ing them was to NICKNAME each one, Now The method of nicknaming the off spring May sound far fetched to a Strict, Numbers Researcher It worked for the Locals. IF concerned or in doubt, Check for Some Folk lore, AMONG your Family Members, There just might be a list of Nick names in Some Old Family trunk, That has not gotten, or likely never will get into the Records or on Line. RARELY, but some time when some BUYS an old Antique TRUNK they are Considerate enough to ADVERTISE the Contents, But usually THAT Family Record goes in the JUNK. I find Where there are a Group of A Family, in KY, Mo, OHIO, ALA, MS Texas, with the Same name as a Family in Va, Or From the Carolina,s to Another State & there are the Same Names THERE AS Here, Where EVER, there is a good CHANCE that there is a Connection. JUST SO: The original Family From Va.- James Campbell Marries Cousin Mary Campbell, Marys Bro. SILAS Campbell, M James Sister, Cousin, Martha, NOW- Silas & Martha Move from VA. to KY. Mary has the first Baby, OH boy she just has to Tell her Brother in KY. WE named our Baby , John after Yours & James Daddy, Well when Martha's Baby is Born She Writes back Home That they Named the Baby Girl after Both Grand Mama's, That is Great, so Mary has a girl The SAME Grand Ma's name's are used again, Soon there Is a family in Va & one in Ky. With the same First & Last Names. I have the Copies of 5 Letters writen Between Some of My Distant North Family in Campbell County, Va, in the 1830,s & Their Family members that Migrated to Franklin Mo. YEP, swapping Baby Names, Was part of the Letter. There is a Family of Mitchell's in Livingston Ky. With the Same First Names as My Mitchell's in Nelson County Had ABT the same age, MINE came from Bedford Co. Va. WHERE DID THE same named Family in KY Come From. John Campbell was a very Frequently Used Name in The Campbell Family. That is where D N A Comes in, Where that is used NOW-NICKNAMES answered the Same purpose in OLDEN times. I have had the opportunity to pick up some of My Family Nicknames. There is A secret to Genealogy, that would get me Laughed out of the loop, BUT the next time that any of MY Cousins Start after an Ancestor, Mentally Become that Person, TRY it & Let US know if there is any Difference. CUZ A T & Leona <atpowelljr@aol.com>

Hi A.T. and Bucky; If memory serves me (I'll check my file later as I just got home), Lawrence was first in Caroline Co., then Spottsylvania before coming to Amherst Co., VA. Phyllis in CA

Hello ANN Soon as I get time I will do a list on PA. AND N. Y Cecil Campbell

I have a family of Campbell's from VA to Muskingum Co about the same time as your John. James b 1783/88 and Elizabeth were in Ohio Co, (now WV) abt 1819 when one of their sons was born. They came to Muskingum in the early 1820's. They lived in Muskingum township, near Shannon. There is also a number of other Campbell's who came from VA so it is so hard to determine who belongs to who. The name John does not seem to appear in my line, which may or may not mean anything. I did see he name Lane on some deed of James - but I think only as a witness, or an official. There was an older John Campbell who came from VA to Muskingum, he is buried in Irville. If I remember correctly he had a grandson named John (but I think it was Younger). Don't know who his children were. Good luck - there are so many Johns and James Campbells that it sure make it hard. My ancestor was named Noble to he was a little easier to find. >

David, Perhaps, like all of us have, you made a typo in your message. Murdoch would have been 13 when Cameron was born otherwise. Have you had a look at the 1871 census on the Canadian federal government site? http://www.collectionscanada.ca/02/02010803_e.html Remember the census takers often got the spelling wrong so do general searches. The index can be incorrect also. I found an Orrett family in the 1881 Canadian census listed as O'Neill! That took a lot of searching. Leave out the last name and just look for the person using the first name or vice versa. The 1881 Canadian census is available free at the familysearch.org site. Use the advanced search. Ask more questions and let us know if you have any luck! Diane Campbell Dollard des Ormeaux QC Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Hudson" <davidhudsonsr@hotmail.com> To: <CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 11:31 PM Subject: [CAMPBELL] Re: Murdoch Campbell Family > I am looking for any info on the Murdoch Campbell Family and he assumed to > be born in Perth, Ontario in 1818. He had a son named Kenneth Campbell > assumed to be born 1831 in Ontario. Kenneth died 1879 in Alexandria, Ontario > and he was married to Catherine MacDonald. > > Any kind of info on this family would be very much appreciated. Thank you, > > David Hudson > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Unfortunately, the Chiles/Campbell connection wasn't with Caty (--) Campbell. As I've said before, Mary Chiles had a website that gave the Chiles/Childs family history chart. It's no longer is online--I'm assuming because she has passed away and someone removed the page from the Web. She was born in 1920 and someone recently told me they thought she was now deceased. Anyway, one thing I do remember was that when I scanned the family history chart, the Chiles/Campbell connection was at a very obscure point that didn't seem very relevant to me at the time. Had it been Caty (--) Campbell, I definitely would have remembered that detail. My biggest questions is regarding the place I first heard "Caty" Campbell even mentioned: http://www.geocities.com/sandmot2002/pafg18.htm#4881 This was information posted by Sandmot. The info specifically regarding "Caty" was this: Catherine(Caty) (--) CAMPBELL was born in 1725. She died in 1797. She married George(2) CAMPBELL in 1745. So, since our recent postings have been related to sources and facts and records... where did Sandmot get any of those dates in the first place? The only document I've ever seen regarding Caty Campbell is George Campbell's will. It doesn't state any ages, or marriage dates, or anything. I found some property records in the 1790's for a Caty Campbell, and they do cease around 1797, but that doesn't say to me she died that year, just that she stopped buying and selling land. Anyone have an ideas?

Unfortunately, the Chiles/Campbell connection wasn't with Caty (--) Campbell. As I've said before, Mary Chiles had a website that gave the Chiles/Childs family history chart. It's no longer is online--I'm assuming because she has passed away and someone removed the page from the Web. She was born in 1920 and someone recently told me they thought she was now deceased. Anyway, one thing I do remember was that when I scanned the family history chart, the Chiles/Campbell connection was at a very obscure point that didn't seem very relevant to me at the time. Had it been Caty (--) Campbell, I definitely would have remembered that detail. My biggest questions is regarding the place I first heard "Caty" Campbell even mentioned: http://www.geocities.com/sandmot2002/pafg18.htm#4881 This was information posted by Sandmot. The info specifically regarding "Caty" was this: Catherine(Caty) (--) CAMPBELL was born in 1725. She died in 1797. She married George(2) CAMPBELL in 1745. So, since our recent postings have been related to sources and facts and records... where did Sandmot get any of those dates in the first place? The only document I've ever seen regarding Caty Campbell is George Campbell's will. It doesn't state any ages, or marriage dates, or anything. I found some property records in the 1790's for a Caty Campbell, and they do cease around 1797, but that doesn't say to me she died that year, just that she stopped buying and selling land. Anyone have an ideas?

Dear Peggy, Did you locate his marriage certificate? It should state parents names. Did you locate his death record, or funeral home, or cemetery record? Also should state parents names. These 2 records might not have the parents names, but would be the first step that must be taken in the research. In the 1850-60-70-80 census, are there other Campbell names in the same area which also state born in Virginia? Maybe you can find brothers to him, and then find parents from there? Please tell us the NAMES of his children, in case that rings some bells. Best regards, Lilly Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: <Pjpeters2@aol.com> To: <CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 3:51 AM Subject: [CAMPBELL] John Campbell 1817 VA > My great-grandfather John Campbell was born in VA in 1817, I have no idea > who his parents were or what part of VA he was born in....does anyone > have any > suggestions as to how I could locate him there & his parents? > > Married Oct 1, 1840 to Urith Lane from Ohio and they moved to Vermilion > Co., > IL where they raised their family and died in 1889 & 1894. > > Any help, suggestions, etc. extremely appreciated... > Peggy > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Hi Lilly, All I have is the marriage register from Muskingum Co., Ohio that shows their names, date, Deacons name who married them. Also the obits for both he & Urith Lane Campbell his wife. I have all the census 1840 thru 1880, and photos of their headstones. Maybe I should go back & check for other Campbells in the area where they first appear in a census which was Ohio. John Campbell was in Ohio by 1840 (when they married) and then in Coles Co., IL by the 1860 census. I will try for death certificates next then. The children of John Campbell b:11 Sep 1817 in VA and Urith Lane b: 21 June 1824 near Dresden, OH are: William John b: 29 Oct 1841, OH d: 12 Dec 1908 IL Mary Ellen b: 27 Jul 1844 OH d: 26 Jul 1919 OK Samuel B. b: 13 Apr 1845 OH Sidney Loretta b: 15 Mar 1847 OH d:25 Feb 1927 IA Helen b: 14 Sep 1851 IA Josephus b: 24 Feb 1854 Isabell "Bell: b: 17 Jul 1855 Helen If anyone recognizes any of these names please contact me, and I thank you all.....Peggy

Thank you so much for looking this up for me. At least, this is another lead. You are right, there is a shortage of Campbells in MD. Perhaps, they moved out right away or else the arrived in VA or PA. Thanks again. Nancy Familyhstryman@aol.com wrote: >Hello Nancy >Maryland only has a few Campbells, listed this is all of them. >CHARLES CAMPBELL--transported from Newgate Prison to Maryland on board the >ship Worcester Frigate in 2-1718/19; indentured servant. >CHRISPIANA CAMPBELL (alias Toms); transported from Newgate Prison to >Maryland on board the ship Loyal Margrett in 6-1726; indentured servant. >This is it for---------------MARYLAND------------------------ > > >Cecil Campbell > > > > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > >

AT; Stopped chatting with you too quick.....In 1938, Richmond had two newspapers. The Va State Library has these papers on film and available for interlibrary loan. You would want film 5 for the Richmond News Leader and film 4 for The Richmond Times Dispatch. Take this message to your local library and they will get the film files for you. BH ----- Original Message ----- From: <Atpowelljr@aol.com> To: <CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 11:46 PM Subject: Re: [CAMPBELL] RE: EARLY CAMPBELL EMIGRANTS TO VIRGINIA > HOWDY CUZ, > THE Cousin That is in a position to be Santa's Helper With the Hershey > Candy Factory in his Neighborhood. > Do you have any thing on this Charles Campbell after landing in MD?? I am > still Banking on Our Campbell Pioneer being the One That Stold the Horse & > was > shipped to VA, I would like to get into the Richmond, Va Paper Archives > For > the Sunday Edition for 1938. CUZ A T > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

AT; I would guess that each Campbell researcher has his/her own opinion as to the first Campbell clan to enter our new country. Jamestown has a roster of the Living and the dead in Virginia as of February 1623 and there are no Campbell's listed. The first US head of household) census was the following year in 1624 - I have a copy of this census (719 heads of household) and no Campbell's. I guess our history confirms that the very early immigrants to this country came in from England and were mainly English. My experience reveals that the first Campbell's into Virginia probably came in through NY or PA and down the Shenandoah Valley - namely the "White" and "Black" Campbell Clans. They did not linger long in Augusta County, moving on into the SW and further south and West. For the Campbell's coming into Albemarle, Nelson, Amherst and even Rockbridge, I believe they came in through Baltimore or Philadelphia through Maryland and south via Orange or down from the Chesapeake area into our Albemarle/Goochland and Counties further south. I spent time in Jamestown and Williamsburg last week and have copies of a roster of "Early Settlers of Old Amherst (Nelson) being mailed to me from the Swem Library (37 handscribed pages- takes them 10 days to photocopy). This roster, a copy of the originally handscribed listing done by Alexander Brown, contains significantly more information than that "coded by AB" and in public print (In old Amherst prior to 1761). An example I wrote down was for "John Coffey: On 16 August 1744, on Davis Creek of Rockfish. William, Edmund, Rueben and James Coffey (or as it is generally spelt in old messages Coffery) owned land in Old Amherst prior to 1761". If I recall correctly, we are going to find that John Campbell, better known as Wagoner John Campbell, is going to have been the first Campbell into Old Amherst. Lawrence may have been older but I believe he stopped off in Spotsylvania prior to moving into Old Amherst. I'm anxious to read what Alexander Brown had to write about John Campbell - lots of verbiage that I did not attempt to decipher at that time. The 1938 Richmond Times article you would enjoy - can you pin point to a specific weekend, date, and subject? Regards, BH ----- Original Message ----- From: <Atpowelljr@aol.com> To: <CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 11:46 PM Subject: Re: [CAMPBELL] RE: EARLY CAMPBELL EMIGRANTS TO VIRGINIA > HOWDY CUZ, > THE Cousin That is in a position to be Santa's Helper With the Hershey > Candy Factory in his Neighborhood. > Do you have any thing on this Charles Campbell after landing in MD?? I am > still Banking on Our Campbell Pioneer being the One That Stold the Horse & > was > shipped to VA, I would like to get into the Richmond, Va Paper Archives > For > the Sunday Edition for 1938. CUZ A T > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

Hello Cecil, Does your book mention a Thomas Campbell who married Jean/Jane Davidson in Billerica, MA, in 1733 and then moved to Londonderry, NH, 1734 to 1735. I know all about him after that but I'm still trying to find out where and when he was born, probably in Ireland. Thanks, George Campbell ----- Original Message ----- From: <Familyhstryman@aol.com> To: <CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 1:01 AM Subject: Re: [CAMPBELL] RE: EARLY CAMPBELL EMIGRANTS TO VIRGINIA > Hello Marge > You may be right about the first Campbell coming to New Jersey. This book > list early Campbell emigrants for VA .,PA.,N.Y.,N.C.,S.C.,GA.,MD.,and > N.H.This > book has references listed , but it does not tell what came from where . I > thought maybe some of this info might help lead someone in the right > direction > for their research. > > CECIL CAMPBELL > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

Have you checked oldbailey.org? That's where I found one of my Davis ancestors [Uriah Davis] whose descendant married Hannah Campbell? They are my gg grandparents. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Atpowelljr@aol.com> To: <CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 10:46 PM Subject: Re: [CAMPBELL] RE: EARLY CAMPBELL EMIGRANTS TO VIRGINIA > HOWDY CUZ, > THE Cousin That is in a position to be Santa's Helper With the Hershey > Candy Factory in his Neighborhood. > Do you have any thing on this Charles Campbell after landing in MD?? I am > still Banking on Our Campbell Pioneer being the One That Stold the Horse & > was > shipped to VA, I would like to get into the Richmond, Va Paper Archives > For > the Sunday Edition for 1938. CUZ A T > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

I am looking for any info on the Murdoch Campbell Family and he assumed to be born in Perth, Ontario in 1818. He had a son named Kenneth Campbell assumed to be born 1831 in Ontario. Kenneth died 1879 in Alexandria, Ontario and he was married to Catherine MacDonald. Any kind of info on this family would be very much appreciated. Thank you, David Hudson