Hi Cuz AT & Leona, Hey that is a great idea, I will surely do that & try that list. Thank you ever so much, always willing to check out any possibility suggested. Peggy

Hi Paul, if your Samuel B. Campbell was married in 1833 then it couldn't be the same one as mine. My Samuel B. was born in 1845, he was on the 1850 as a 1 year old with his parents, but didn't appear again & no further information, so we have figured he must have died. Sorry, Peggy

ATTEN: Paul C., Ann, & Peggy. May be a Shot in the Dark, BUT there were many Campbell's Moved from Loudon County Va to your area. THIS is a list that will connect you to Loudon County Va. <VALOUDOU-L> ALSO Check if you can locate wills for Loudon County Va. CUZ A T & Leona <atpowelljr@aol.com>

Peggy, I am very interested in any information on the Samuel B. Campbell in your list below. I have traced my line back to a Samuel Campbell who was living just outside of Salineville, Ohio in the 1860 Census Report I have. His wife was a Sarah Hunter. They were married in Columbiana County Oh in 1833. I know they had quite a few children.Three of the boys served in the Civil War together. I have it that my Samuel was actually born in Pa though. Think there could be any connection to your Samuel B. born in Ohio in 1845 ? V/R Paul C. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ann Murphy<mailto:emurphy64@cox.net> To: CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [CAMPBELL] John Campbell 1817 VA Would like to know more about Mary Ellen who did she marry and where in Ok. Ann in Ks ----- Original Message ----- From: <Pjpeters2@aol.com<mailto:Pjpeters2@aol.com>> To: <CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:11 AM Subject: Re: [CAMPBELL] John Campbell 1817 VA > Ann, > > Thank you and you are right, they did have another 6 children which I > hadn't > put on my posting. The full family for: > > John Campbell b: 1817 VA and Urith Lane b: 1824 OH > FAMILY: > > William John b: 29 Oct 1841, OH d: 12 Dec 1908 IL > Mary Ellen b: 27 Jul 1844 OH d: 26 Jul 1919 OK > Samuel B. b: 13 Apr 1845 OH > Sidney Loretta b: 15 Mar 1847 OH d:25 Feb 1927 IA > Helen b: 14 Sep 1851 IA > Josephus b: 24 Feb 1854 > Isabell "Bell: b: 17 Jul 1855 > Levina K. b: 01 Nov 1857 > Sarah J. b: 23 Jan 1860 IL > Phoebe Amanda b: 2 Nov 1862 > John S. b: 20 April 1865 > George W b: 23 Jun 1868 > Lizzie D b: 30 June 1872 IL > > > If anyone recognizes any of these names please contact me, and I thank > you > all.....Peggy > > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx> > ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx>

Is there a George Thomas Campbell in your book who married a Martha Caldwell or Martha Halcomb ?? George was born June 16th 1892 in Letcher Co. Kentucky i believe or McCreary County to William Andrew Campbell and Rhode ( Ridener - maiden name ) Campbell and Martha was born in 1903 in Wise County Virginia ??? . Martha was the daughter of Ephraim Daniel ( Ephie ) Caldwell and Lucinda Jane Short Caldwell . Martha's maiden name was Caldwell and then she married Philip Halcomb and after he died married George who mostly went by the name Tom Campbell. George died May 3rd 1967 and was buried in McCreary County . Martha was buried in Lee County we think but not sure . Do you have anything on this family ?? Lorene

Names and dates can both be so misleading on US censuses. My Campbells are from the mountains of western NC and east TN. I have found my Campbells listed as Campell, Camel, Cambell, Campbel, probably others. Unsure if it was because the census takers were in a hurry or if that is what was given to them. Probably they just put down what was phonetically correct to them. First names are always difficult. The 1850 census has Thomas, the next T.B., the next Baty- all the same person. His son was Albert E. Some how on the census it turned into Albert T. Then later AT, which is on his tombstone. I find I get more results if I pull up the county census, go to the C's and look at them all. Ages are also bugaboos. The earlies census that person can be found on, especially if a child seem to be the most accurate. On my GGgrand father TB's tombstone it says born 1822. The 1850 census has it as 1828. His brother , Elijah, or Jackson or EJ according to 1850 census was born approx. 1825. In 1900 he told the census he was 90. It seems the older one got the more exaggerated one's age got. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Atpowelljr@aol.com> To: <CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [CAMPBELL] > Atten DUCK: <Campbell??> > On the William E,- VS W. Elijah <Personal Experence of MY past I AM > Arthur > Thomas, that was the way that I signed my name for Years, then For a While > I > Signed A. Thomas, Then To Just A. T.> So Then you Need to Look for A > Nickname > that would not have gotten into Official Records. I see that you Have a > William B. & A- William E. That could be the reason for the Changing the > William E > To W. Eligah. There were three A. T.,s in My neighborhood, <NOW 3> I > would > get my mail & have one of the other A T.,s Mail & some time I would Get my > Paper in the A M & check my Mail box & there was More mail where one of > the A T., > s had dropped of from the Mail man had left in his Box the Day before. So > you > ARE very well on the right Family, BUT see if you can find any thing that > indicates a Nickname. > > My Campbell,s Are & have been in Amherst & Nelson County Va > Since before those Counties were Formed. > Some of our Researches Have our Campbell's Moving from one County to > another. When it was the County line that was Changed. Like they lived in > New Kent > THE 1600,s & the Researcher Has them moving Until they show up in Nelson > County, which was formed in 1808 from the same area that was part of New > Kent County > when the Campbell's Settled there in the 1600,s. Geographical Boundry > Changes > has Moved many people, That are now living right where their Ancestors > first > Settled & They I.D.ed the Same named Family members with the same First & > Last > Name, With A Nickname. > CUZ A T & Leona <atpowelljr@aol.com> > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Sandy Harris, I have a Duncan Campbell,marries to a Marjory Stewart....both from Scotland. What years are you looking for? Sandy Harris <sundymundy@frontiernet.net> wrote: I have a Hariet Lindsey, Lady, daughter of Alexander Lindsey, married to Duncan Campbell, Sir. Any relationship to your Margaret Lindsey? All of Scotland. I do not have dates, but do know they are all born in the late 1600s as is your James and Margaret. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 7:06 PM Subject: Re: [CAMPBELL] Thomas Campbell 1735 in NH > Hello GEORGE > Yes ! ! your THOMAS CAMPBELL is in this book and a JAMES CAMPBELL ,and a > HENRY CAMPBELL , here is all the info on all three.. > THOMAS CAMPBELL from Scotland in 1735;settled at Londonderry ,New > Hampshire; > married to JANE DAVIDSON. > JAMES CAMPBELL; BORN 1690, died 1770; from Scotland via Ireland to Boston > 1728; went to Londonderry, New Hampshire in 1733; and to Cherry Valley, > New York > in 1741; married (1st) to Margaret Lindsey and (2nd) to SARAH ( SIMPSON) > THOMPSON. > HENRY CAMPBELL- born1697 , died 1785; from NORTH of IRELAND IN 1733; > settled > at Windham, New Hampshire; married MARTHA BLACK in1717. > This is all CAMPBELLS for ------- NEW HAMPSHIRE------------------------ > > > Cecil Campbell > > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx ....you know you are addicted when you have traced your ancestral lines all the way back to Adam and Eve, have it fully documented, and still don't want to quit... http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/holeton Pam Holeton Piqua,Ohio Miami County --------------------------------- Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping

Atten DUCK: <Campbell??> On the William E,- VS W. Elijah <Personal Experence of MY past I AM Arthur Thomas, that was the way that I signed my name for Years, then For a While I Signed A. Thomas, Then To Just A. T.> So Then you Need to Look for A Nickname that would not have gotten into Official Records. I see that you Have a William B. & A- William E. That could be the reason for the Changing the William E To W. Eligah. There were three A. T.,s in My neighborhood, <NOW 3> I would get my mail & have one of the other A T.,s Mail & some time I would Get my Paper in the A M & check my Mail box & there was More mail where one of the A T., s had dropped of from the Mail man had left in his Box the Day before. So you ARE very well on the right Family, BUT see if you can find any thing that indicates a Nickname. My Campbell,s Are & have been in Amherst & Nelson County Va Since before those Counties were Formed. Some of our Researches Have our Campbell's Moving from one County to another. When it was the County line that was Changed. Like they lived in New Kent THE 1600,s & the Researcher Has them moving Until they show up in Nelson County, which was formed in 1808 from the same area that was part of New Kent County when the Campbell's Settled there in the 1600,s. Geographical Boundry Changes has Moved many people, That are now living right where their Ancestors first Settled & They I.D.ed the Same named Family members with the same First & Last Name, With A Nickname. CUZ A T & Leona <atpowelljr@aol.com>

I have a Hariet Lindsey, Lady, daughter of Alexander Lindsey, married to Duncan Campbell, Sir. Any relationship to your Margaret Lindsey? All of Scotland. I do not have dates, but do know they are all born in the late 1600s as is your James and Margaret. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Familyhstryman@aol.com> To: <CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 7:06 PM Subject: Re: [CAMPBELL] Thomas Campbell 1735 in NH > Hello GEORGE > Yes ! ! your THOMAS CAMPBELL is in this book and a JAMES CAMPBELL ,and a > HENRY CAMPBELL , here is all the info on all three.. > THOMAS CAMPBELL from Scotland in 1735;settled at Londonderry ,New > Hampshire; > married to JANE DAVIDSON. > JAMES CAMPBELL; BORN 1690, died 1770; from Scotland via Ireland to Boston > 1728; went to Londonderry, New Hampshire in 1733; and to Cherry Valley, > New York > in 1741; married (1st) to Margaret Lindsey and (2nd) to SARAH ( SIMPSON) > THOMPSON. > HENRY CAMPBELL- born1697 , died 1785; from NORTH of IRELAND IN 1733; > settled > at Windham, New Hampshire; married MARTHA BLACK in1717. > This is all CAMPBELLS for ------- NEW HAMPSHIRE------------------------ > > > Cecil Campbell > > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > >

Very true. I found my grandparents in the 1920 census at Camfield. Strange enough, but true... -----Original Message----- From: L.G. Sheets [mailto:lgsheets@ccvn.com] Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 11:15 AM To: CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CAMPBELL] Names and dates can both be so misleading on US censuses. My Campbells are from the mountains of western NC and east TN. I have found my Campbells listed as Campell, Camel, Cambell, Campbel, probably others. Unsure if it was because the census takers were in a hurry or if that is what was given to them. Probably they just put down what was phonetically correct to them. First names are always difficult. The 1850 census has Thomas, the next T.B., the next Baty- all the same person. His son was Albert E. Some how on the census it turned into Albert T. Then later AT, which is on his tombstone. I find I get more results if I pull up the county census, go to the C's and look at them all. Ages are also bugaboos. The earlies census that person can be found on, especially if a child seem to be the most accurate. On my GGgrand father TB's tombstone it says born 1822. The 1850 census has it as 1828. His brother , Elijah, or Jackson or EJ according to 1850 census was born approx. 1825. In 1900 he told the census he was 90. It seems the older one got the more exaggerated one's age got. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Atpowelljr@aol.com> To: <CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [CAMPBELL] > Atten DUCK: <Campbell??> > On the William E,- VS W. Elijah <Personal Experence of MY past I AM > Arthur > Thomas, that was the way that I signed my name for Years, then For a While > I > Signed A. Thomas, Then To Just A. T.> So Then you Need to Look for A > Nickname > that would not have gotten into Official Records. I see that you Have a > William B. & A- William E. That could be the reason for the Changing the > William E > To W. Eligah. There were three A. T.,s in My neighborhood, <NOW 3> I > would > get my mail & have one of the other A T.,s Mail & some time I would Get my > Paper in the A M & check my Mail box & there was More mail where one of > the A T., > s had dropped of from the Mail man had left in his Box the Day before. So > you > ARE very well on the right Family, BUT see if you can find any thing that > indicates a Nickname. > > My Campbell,s Are & have been in Amherst & Nelson County Va > Since before those Counties were Formed. > Some of our Researches Have our Campbell's Moving from one County to > another. When it was the County line that was Changed. Like they lived in > New Kent > THE 1600,s & the Researcher Has them moving Until they show up in Nelson > County, which was formed in 1808 from the same area that was part of New > Kent County > when the Campbell's Settled there in the 1600,s. Geographical Boundry > Changes > has Moved many people, That are now living right where their Ancestors > first > Settled & They I.D.ed the Same named Family members with the same First & > Last > Name, With A Nickname. > CUZ A T & Leona <atpowelljr@aol.com> > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

I have been looking for my wife's father's parents. Nothing seemed to work. I have found the following info, and am wondering if I am on the right track. 1880 Census Heidelburg, Jasper County MS. William B. Campbell 28, Wife Rebecca 25. 1st Child Minnie 3. 2nd Child Lillie 2. 3rd Child William E. 1. I cannot locate the 1890 census for Jasper Cty. MS If you look at the 1900 Jasper Cty, MS census, William B, 47 , Rebecca is now 39. The children are now 20 yrs older, still at home, and have 5 younger brothers and sisters. Hubbert 19, Fred 17, Robert L 15, Edward 13, Lelia 10. HOWEVER! William E. is now Elijah W., 21. First name and middle name transposed, ages are the same. 1910 Census has William E. Campbell and Flora with 2 girls, Maggie L and Flora C These were my wife's Aunts. 1920 Census has "Duck Campbell"?? and Flora with same girls and now a son James B. James B was wife's father. If anyone has any info on this family, please let me know if I am on the right track. bud

Hello ANN The book is called THE CAMPBELL FAMILY. Here is -------PENNSYLVANIA------------------- ALEXANDER CAMPBELL- from Natiskir, Scotland, to Philadelphia on board the ship FRIENDSHIP in 5-1774; age 46; indentured servant. ELSPIA CAMPBELL from Builie, Scotland to Philadelphia on board the ship CLEMENTINA in7-1775; age 20; indentured servant. GEORGE CAMPBELL-- from Lancashire, England to Philadelphia in 7-1728 age 19; cordwainer; indentured servant NEIL CAMPBELL---from Natiskir, Scotland to Philadelphia on board the ship FRIENDSHIP in 5-1774; age 17; son of ALEXANDER ; indentured servant. PATRICK CAMPBELL-- born1733, died 1804; from Ireland around mid-eighteenth century; served in French and Indian War and American Revoluton; probably lived in Westmoreland Co., Pennsylvania; wife's name JANE. Cecil Campbell

Hello GEORGE Yes ! ! your THOMAS CAMPBELL is in this book and a JAMES CAMPBELL ,and a HENRY CAMPBELL , here is all the info on all three.. THOMAS CAMPBELL from Scotland in 1735;settled at Londonderry ,New Hampshire; married to JANE DAVIDSON. JAMES CAMPBELL; BORN 1690, died 1770; from Scotland via Ireland to Boston 1728; went to Londonderry, New Hampshire in 1733; and to Cherry Valley, New York in 1741; married (1st) to Margaret Lindsey and (2nd) to SARAH ( SIMPSON) THOMPSON. HENRY CAMPBELL- born1697 , died 1785; from NORTH of IRELAND IN 1733; settled at Windham, New Hampshire; married MARTHA BLACK in1717. This is all CAMPBELLS for ------- NEW HAMPSHIRE------------------------ Cecil Campbell

John Campbell 1763-1867 married Mary Couch. Brother Wm Campbell married Mary's sister Nancy Couch. Am I the only looking for them ? Does anyone know where they came from before they ended up in Perry co Ky.? Dickey diary are WRONG when Ira Couch talked about "rolling that headhog of tabacco in a day to Charleston SC." It was Charleston West Va. There was a Campbell Bottoms just south of Charleston WV about a day away if you walked. ...................Someone has messed it all up with no proof........... Some say Campbell boys belonged to Elizabeth James Campbell & Patrick Campbell. We just don't see it !!! Vic

I've been trying to find information for several years about the father of William Campbell (1760-1820) who married Nancy "Anny" Couch. Wm and Nancy are my gggg grandparents. Some of the information says that John Patrick Campbell and Elizabeth James are the parents of this William Campbell, but I have never see absolute proof of this. These same sources say that James was buried in Muhlenberg County Ky. I really and truly doubt that this is the same James Campbell. Rebecca Campbell Christmas ----- Original Message ----- From: <ElusivemaryB@aol.com> To: <CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 5:20 PM Subject: [CAMPBELL] Couch/Campbell > John Campbell 1763-1867 married Mary Couch. Brother Wm Campbell married > Mary's sister Nancy Couch. Am I the only looking for them ? > Does anyone know where they came from before they ended up in Perry co > Ky.? > Dickey diary are WRONG when Ira Couch talked about "rolling that headhog > of > tabacco in a day to Charleston SC." It was Charleston West Va. There was a > Campbell Bottoms just south of Charleston WV about a day away if you > walked. > ...................Someone has messed it all up with no proof........... > Some say Campbell boys belonged to Elizabeth James Campbell & Patrick > Campbell. We just don't see it !!! > > Vic > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

>>I would say your Cornelius Campbell married to Emily >>Dulaney, and coming from a mother named Rosey Sale, probably is in some way >>connected to this line of Henry Campbell and Charity of Amherst Co VA. >>Best regards, >>Lilly Martin Hi Lilly, Thanks for your reply. I should have included more info in my original post. Cornelius Sale Campbell was born 1800 and lived in Caroline Co. His parents were Joseph Jr. and Rosey Sale. His paternal grandparents were Joseph Sr. and Elizabeth Peatross, daughter of Matthew Peatross and Amey. Descendents of Joseph Jr. and of Cornelius were still in Caroline as of 1967. Rand

Hi Ann, Well Mary Ellen Campbell was my grandmother so I can tell you more about her. She was b: 27 July 1844 in Muskingum Co., OH. Married my grandfather George W. Williams 30 Aug 1866 in Coles Co., IL. It wasn't until after the 1880 and before the 1900 census that they moved at first to Choctaw, Indian Territory (OK).Then in the 1910 census they were living in Pittsburg Co., Savanna, OK where she died in McAlester OK in 1919, and he in 1923. Her obituary in a OK newspaper said she had been a resident in McAlester for 32 years. I miss spoke in an earlier e-mail when I said her mother was Mary Morris, that was her grandmother. My age is catching up with me & I can't rely on saying things anymore without looking at my paperwork. Mary Ellen Campbell was the granddaughter of Presocia (Lane) Lane and Benjamin Lane. Mary Ellen (Campbell) Williams and George W. Williams were the parents of: Ollie Williams (F) b: 1868 IL John b: 1870 IL (wife Hattie) Edward b: 1872 IL (wife Grace) Millie b: 1875 IL (? Higgins) Charles E. b: 1876 my father b: IN Olga Bertha b: 1883 (Arthur Brewster) George "Dodge" b: ? abt 1885 (Myrtle) Peggy

Would like to know more about Mary Ellen who did she marry and where in Ok. Ann in Ks ----- Original Message ----- From: <Pjpeters2@aol.com> To: <CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:11 AM Subject: Re: [CAMPBELL] John Campbell 1817 VA > Ann, > > Thank you and you are right, they did have another 6 children which I > hadn't > put on my posting. The full family for: > > John Campbell b: 1817 VA and Urith Lane b: 1824 OH > FAMILY: > > William John b: 29 Oct 1841, OH d: 12 Dec 1908 IL > Mary Ellen b: 27 Jul 1844 OH d: 26 Jul 1919 OK > Samuel B. b: 13 Apr 1845 OH > Sidney Loretta b: 15 Mar 1847 OH d:25 Feb 1927 IA > Helen b: 14 Sep 1851 IA > Josephus b: 24 Feb 1854 > Isabell "Bell: b: 17 Jul 1855 > Levina K. b: 01 Nov 1857 > Sarah J. b: 23 Jan 1860 IL > Phoebe Amanda b: 2 Nov 1862 > John S. b: 20 April 1865 > George W b: 23 Jun 1868 > Lizzie D b: 30 June 1872 IL > > > If anyone recognizes any of these names please contact me, and I thank > you > all.....Peggy > > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

Hello, I am sorry I am not familiar with the exact names you list here, but I can say there was a SALE family in Amherst Co, VA, and their daughter married a Campbell. Is this pure coincidence? I don't know. Joel Campbell b. 1745, d. 4-9-1832, s/o Henry Campbell and Charity of Amherst Co VA. Joel had these kids: Cornelius, Lucy, Wiley, Lewis, Catlett, Mildred/Milly, Stilby/Stilly. The Cornelius above married Nancy Ann Lively, m. 1802 Amherst Co VA. His brother Wiley Campbell married Elizabeth N. Sale m. 11-18-1800 Amherst Co VA Wiley Campbell and Elizabeth N. Sale had a son Lewis Sale Campbell who married Eliza Delany Brown m. 11--18-1835 Albemarle Co VA. Now, it appears this family has Campbell, Delany/Dulaney, and Sale names all combined together, in addition to the first name of Cornelius. So with out any further research, I would say your Cornelius Campbell married to Emily Dulaney, and coming from a mother named Rosey Sale, probably is in some way connected to this line of Henry Campbell and Charity of Amherst Co VA. Best regards, Lilly Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: <rand221@comcast.net> To: <CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 9:45 PM Subject: [CAMPBELL] CORNELIUS CAMPBELL EMILY DULANEY 02 Aug 1825 Fauquier VA > Hello all, > > My wife descends from Cornelius and Emily. Does anyone know anything > about Cornelius' mother, Rosey Sale? I have nothing. > > Thanks, > > Rand Costich > Rockville, MD > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

Ann, Thank you and you are right, they did have another 6 children which I hadn't put on my posting. The full family for: John Campbell b: 1817 VA and Urith Lane b: 1824 OH FAMILY: William John b: 29 Oct 1841, OH d: 12 Dec 1908 IL Mary Ellen b: 27 Jul 1844 OH d: 26 Jul 1919 OK Samuel B. b: 13 Apr 1845 OH Sidney Loretta b: 15 Mar 1847 OH d:25 Feb 1927 IA Helen b: 14 Sep 1851 IA Josephus b: 24 Feb 1854 Isabell "Bell: b: 17 Jul 1855 Levina K. b: 01 Nov 1857 Sarah J. b: 23 Jan 1860 IL Phoebe Amanda b: 2 Nov 1862 John S. b: 20 April 1865 George W b: 23 Jun 1868 Lizzie D b: 30 June 1872 IL If anyone recognizes any of these names please contact me, and I thank you all.....Peggy